Whitewashing 101: How To Rewrite Black History

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It's Black History Month, so it's about time we talked about the recuperation of Black radicals like Dr. King and Nelson Mandela. Everyone and their mother likes to claim MLK as their own, and use his words as a rhetorical weapon, but what did he actually believe? This one could have been so much longer, but I guess that just leaves room for a part two in the future. Hope you enjoy!
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@GTAVictor9128
@GTAVictor9128 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The one and only time when the NRA actually advocated for stricter gun control was when the Black Panthers expressed their second amendment rights.
@revolutionaryape7568
@revolutionaryape7568 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao Nice observation
@curocurovic6675
@curocurovic6675 2 жыл бұрын
for the same reason South Africa did give up on their atomic bombs
@baraghy3627
@baraghy3627 2 жыл бұрын
@@curocurovic6675 can you elaborate please sounds interesting
@NRobbi42
@NRobbi42 2 жыл бұрын
@Leila Namer South Africa denuclearized only because they were afraid of black people getting nukes.
@curocurovic6675
@curocurovic6675 2 жыл бұрын
@Canuk Kun is anything i did write wrong ? if nukes have been kept in SA ..how do you think would that story end? what assumptions have been made and what do we see today in SA? same for europe ...to keep the offensive capabilities some nations of europe today have despite the intended demographic changes would not only be problematic ..it would be a crime
@DarknessUnresolved
@DarknessUnresolved 2 жыл бұрын
Since you referenced both The Black Panthers and Reagan here, it should also be noted that in 1967, [then CA governor] Reagan passed the Mulford Act, prohibiting the public carrying of guns. This was a DIRECT response to the Panthers conducting neighborhood watch patrols (cop watching) to ensure police gestapo didn't harm Black people. It was literally the only time in recorded history that conservatives actually supported gun control! And of course this was a selectively enforced law, whose sole aim was to disarm Black people in CA. This should be common history, but most folks probably know nothing about it.
@4knewt505
@4knewt505 2 жыл бұрын
I knew it happened but didn't know it was under Reagan 😱 history is slowly unfolding the true nature of the president that so many adored
@DarknessUnresolved
@DarknessUnresolved 2 жыл бұрын
@@4knewt505 All that mystique attached to Reagan is completely false. Thing is, as much of an absolute bastard as he was, Reagan would be considered a moderate by the standards of today's GOP.
@DarknessUnresolved
@DarknessUnresolved 2 жыл бұрын
@@james_chatman Facts are FACTS. It's really not a "liberal" thing.
@Matt_Fields_29
@Matt_Fields_29 2 жыл бұрын
@@james_chatman the NRA became uber right wing in the late 70s. They have made zero efforts to attract minorities. Idk where this alternate history you got here came from.
@Acidfunkish
@Acidfunkish 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt_Fields_29 This. The NRA's origins were much more moderate. That changed long before most of us were even born. And, now, they almost seem ashamed of their past. And their founder would absolutely be ashamed of its modern state.
@BlindMellowJelly
@BlindMellowJelly 2 жыл бұрын
"If you're studying history and you are never ashamed, you're studying propaganda."
@chronikhiles
@chronikhiles Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a pretty extreme statement really.
@laodes
@laodes Жыл бұрын
Some of us lives in countries that are comprised entirely by a historical underclass, no colonies ever, no self governance, oppressed by neigbouring nations and empires. The bad stuff only started happening after independence, when we fully adopted a neoliberal economic model
@laodes
@laodes Жыл бұрын
@@chronikhiles it is a sweeping generalization and thus quite inaccurate
@pallingtontheshrike6374
@pallingtontheshrike6374 Жыл бұрын
@@laodescountries that are the underclass inevitably have compradors, though? like, of course the magnitude won’t even approach that of nations with an imperial period, but you’re sure there was never a revolutionary group stalled or stopped by compradors?
@justanotherweirdo11
@justanotherweirdo11 11 ай бұрын
​@@laodes Fair enough. But if you're from a country that did have colonies, commit war crimes, oppress their citizens/residents/indigenous people, and you don't feel ashamed when learning about the history of your country then there is a problem.
@alex_blue5802
@alex_blue5802 2 жыл бұрын
It really opened my eyes reading King's writing as an adult. Every major city has a street named after him but we're never taught about his real politics.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын
Which are? Certainly not the hatred being spewed today
@alex_blue5802
@alex_blue5802 Жыл бұрын
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 opposing the war in vietnam and instead advocating to use the money to eradicate poverty within the US. Advocating for economic justice as well as equal rights. Wanting rich countries to give money to poor countries.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын
@@alex_blue5802 always the money
@omegaduck2955
@omegaduck2955 Жыл бұрын
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 what else would it be then. Please inform me
@Iloveswedes
@Iloveswedes Жыл бұрын
They'd rather black people live on a street named after him than to make sure black people own a house on any street.
@Fenthule
@Fenthule 2 жыл бұрын
*sips coffee* Ahh yes. Another Friday, another chance for Second Thought to solidify my disdain for society. Excellent.
@Aunt_Aoife
@Aunt_Aoife 2 жыл бұрын
I too like to start my weekend with some depressing clarity and a cup of hot bean water
@A.Pswiss
@A.Pswiss 2 жыл бұрын
I get a latte🙂
@axch2983
@axch2983 2 жыл бұрын
tea here ... chai
@Smithius
@Smithius 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Macchiato over here
@theaccountable
@theaccountable 2 жыл бұрын
Had my French roast and pre roll to start my daily observations of a falling empire.
@taylorswan8587
@taylorswan8587 2 жыл бұрын
I still think the most wild example of white washing from the civil rights movement is Rosa Parks. The fact that she’s portrayed culturally as just “an individual who decided out of nowhere one day that she would take a stand and then never did anything else ever again” is beyond satire
@Nemo12417
@Nemo12417 2 жыл бұрын
She wasn't the first to refuse to give up her seat, but was chosen as a test case by the civil rights movement specifically because they knew their enemies would ruthlessly search for any reason to discredit the face of their boycott, even digging up irrelevant dirt, kinda like how Andy Ngo's favorite hobby whenever a black person gets shot is to dig up something from years ago that has nothing to do with the situation.
@ErutaniaRose
@ErutaniaRose 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nemo12417 Yup. They needed the “purist” person to idolize. I’m glad that people recognize and know/acknowledge she wasn’t the first. And, while I hate that they had to choose someone based on the morality of others, I understand why they did it.
@christopherjohnson9167
@christopherjohnson9167 2 жыл бұрын
how tf is she “white washed” yall are awash in your own wack ass leftist ideology.
@mechanomics2649
@mechanomics2649 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjohnson9167 Why are you going throughout the comments seething? lmao
@christopherjohnson9167
@christopherjohnson9167 2 жыл бұрын
@@mechanomics2649 because Im a righteous internet warrior fighting on the front line of the information wars. Try to catch up.
@grapentine739
@grapentine739 2 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine being black in the 60s and saying the things MLK was saying? MLK was one incredibly brave dude.
@Ayyeeeooo
@Ayyeeeooo Жыл бұрын
Now imagine being Malcolm & Farrakhan
@Astarrrrr
@Astarrrrr Жыл бұрын
And they paid the price for it. Everyone knows the government killed mlk, Malcom x, and Fred Hampton.
@ryanwalters1649
@ryanwalters1649 Жыл бұрын
He was beyond brave. He gave his life to say the things he said. We haven't seen anyone like him since.
@dianalord5825
@dianalord5825 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm was braver, MLK came around years AFTER the Drean speech.
@FASBLAQUE
@FASBLAQUE Жыл бұрын
We have Chris Hedges today. They're mad at him too.
@KylarEllis32
@KylarEllis32 Жыл бұрын
When MLK and Malcolm X started to get on the same page, it was to much for the US government. That's a real trend for the Government. You can see it throughout history. Challenge the status quo and things never ended well.
@rafa.frqnz1188
@rafa.frqnz1188 Жыл бұрын
On top of Cesar Chavez was supposed to meet MLK within that time frame as well
@andrejamison2723
@andrejamison2723 6 ай бұрын
They were never on the same page. King was a socialist
@tamiausten873
@tamiausten873 5 ай бұрын
I just watched the first season of Justice league as an adult. I realize that the US government has gone to great lengths to look good in every story even in the minds of kids. I'm Nigerian and I watched a lot of Hollywood (still do but I know a little better). They say the victor writes history, the US has been the one with the pen. Even with the Nazis, I've started to wonder, how much better were the Allied Forces ? I know how Africa was shared like cookies for Europe except for Germany.
@chadsloog9649
@chadsloog9649 2 жыл бұрын
As a biracial male, who grew up in a primarily white area, I feel embarrassed by how recently I learned the truth about how black history is taught. A few years ago I felt uncomfortable by how my education never seemed to line up with the realities i experienced and heard from my friends growing up. Thanks again for doing the good work you do! History is history no matter how we feel, and I respect that you make sure we know
@CBPfilm
@CBPfilm 2 жыл бұрын
You should've talked to me i would tell you the more of the truth.
@takyrica
@takyrica 2 жыл бұрын
🙋🏾‍♀️ I’m not biracial and I was so wrong about black history. I didn’t realize how bad black history was taught for most of my adult life. It’s ok though! We’re here now.
@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not supprised, and yeah I'm just learning a lot too. Also as a haitian, I'm really just now beginning to understand just how bad things are and has been.
@JOGA_Wills
@JOGA_Wills 2 жыл бұрын
Being a halfy in this country (im in AZ) is quite the experience aint it!! You are dipped in both worlds' experiences yet are really shunned by both.
@chadsloog9649
@chadsloog9649 2 жыл бұрын
@@CBPfilm I just looked at one of the playlists you have up. I’ll definitely check some stuff out!
@rept7
@rept7 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like every week, I'm learning more about how Reagan was terrible.
@carrieullrich5059
@carrieullrich5059 2 жыл бұрын
He destroyed lots of things that protected citizens. Insane Asylums used to be funded by the federal government, now we no longer have permanent care for people that need it most.
@cf5397
@cf5397 2 жыл бұрын
@@carrieullrich5059 i agree we need better facilities but the 'insane asylums' of that day used pseudoscience and were on a whole detrimental to the health of those placed in their care.
@thowl7065
@thowl7065 2 жыл бұрын
@@cf5397 Reagan closed those in the 80s and they were institutions, not insane asylums. I think you are thinking about way further back in time. There were some bad ones, but most of them weren't a detriment to people's health. Now those people are in jails, prisons and homeless. That isn't better.
@wrestlinganime4life288
@wrestlinganime4life288 2 жыл бұрын
"Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil and the government is lying about 9/11" -Huey Freeman
@Matt_Fields_29
@Matt_Fields_29 2 жыл бұрын
@@cf5397 Reagan's solution was clearly a failure. And that's because Reagan did not actually give a shit about the abuses in state mental hospitals (he didn't even really pretend to, that wasn't a thing the public talked about then).
@andilezulu292
@andilezulu292 2 жыл бұрын
As a South African it's always interesting to hear American leftist and American perspectives on Mandela and your analysis was great! But there were some missing pieces that I think more American leftists should understand. A lot of born free South Africans have been questioning and in some instances totally rejecting the legacy of Mandela's ANC. In fact the ANC is considered by a lot of South Africans to be an obstacle to the country's progress and overall stability. Some go as far as to call Nelson Mandela a "sell out". Mandela and ANC abandoned their socialist tradition in the transition to liberal democracy during the years leading up to the first democratic elections. Due to its own strategic blunders, the collapse of the Soviet Union (a big diplomatic and financial ANC supporter), militant white supremacists, the persuasion of American diplomats and pressure form domestic + international capital...the ANC embraced neoliberal capitalism when it came into government. And in varying degrees it has clung to a neoliberal framework in terms of how it manages the economy. 28 years since the end of apartheid and half a population of 59million lives in poverty, 34% is unemployed, corruption has almost destroyed state capacity and we are statistically the most unequal country in the world. The people who suffer the most are the black poor and working class that the ANC and Mandela made a secondary concern when they came to power. This isn't to say the ANC has not improved life at all. There have been great advancements in the provision of vital services ,social support and political freedom is immensely valuable. Mandela, alongside the millions who fought to liberate SA, deserves deep appreciation for their struggle. But their stories should be told with a critical eye. Also Mandela's legacy of racial reconciliation is very questionable. By advocating that black people reconcile with white South Africans, in the absence of economic justice and redistribution or honest national education on what transpired during Apartheid, inequality persists and it is highly racialized. This has led to a lot of explosive resentment in some instances but its also allowed populists and xenophobes dominating politics. So we should be precise and critical when retelling or analyzing Mandela's legacy. The Political Economy of Race and Class in South Africa by Bernard Magubane, Elite Transition by Patrick Bond and South Africa's Corporatized Liberation by Dale T. McKinley are good resources to understanding our country since Apartheid.
@Octoberfurst
@Octoberfurst 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insights. I remember being very disappointed when the ANC, instead of implementing socialist policies, implemented neoliberalism. They missed a golden opportunity. I had read that even today whites own 75% of the land and most blacks still live in poverty. It didn't have to be this way.
@andilezulu292
@andilezulu292 2 жыл бұрын
@@flippydaflip5310 I don't think that's entirely accurate and neither was my initial statement. I think it's more accurate to say the ANC consisted of different ideological bents. Yes, there were liberals and social democrats in the ANC who embraced bourgeoisie ideology. However there were also immensely influential communists like Chris Hani, Joe Slovo, Moses Kotane and Ronnie Kasrils. There were also Pan-Africanists and so on and on. I think it's more effective to understand the ANC's embrace of neoliberalism as produced by a collision between objective factors (soviet union collapse, economic instability) and their own bad strategic choices (submitting to negotiations, seizing political power without some economic power, abandoning popular struggle which could have been used as leverage against capital and national party etc) Also to say the ANC was always and totally a bourgeoisie organization ignores years of militant struggle both in the jungle and within the labor movement
@lu881
@lu881 2 жыл бұрын
@@andilezulu292 I'd like to understand what you mean by it [ANC] having not sized economic power.
@fkujakedmyname
@fkujakedmyname 2 жыл бұрын
while its sort of selling out it was also to prevent sanctions and western invasion. if he pushed for more socialist agendas. western reactions to any form of wealth redistribution are psychotic and sadistic. and in south Africa thats gold mines and precious minerals they gonna be even more sadistic than they are with banana and sugar plantations
@gtone1always
@gtone1always 2 жыл бұрын
OMG thank you all for this amazing discord here. It was incredibly illuminating. And being "Merican'", We don't get taught much about anything and especially without nuance. Well, as we are learning, we weren.t taught about OURSELVES. SMH
@ilduce5874
@ilduce5874 Жыл бұрын
The original Black Panthers accomplished a lot in their lives including the first successful national campaign to raise awareness of sickle cell anemia; Free People’s Medical Clinics (Oakland’s Harriet Tubman clinic is still open); the first free breakfast program for school children; and much more.
@detheater128
@detheater128 2 жыл бұрын
The MLK speech in the middle was very poignant. When talking about racial equity with others, they often dislike the idea of reparations. I always say “if a systemic problem is created along racial lines, the only solution to that problem lies along those same racial lines.” It’s impossible to create equity without addressing the root of inequity.
@joeyginise6051
@joeyginise6051 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean equality?
@Briggsian
@Briggsian 2 жыл бұрын
Really demonstrates the importance of critical race theory in addressing racial inequality. You can't fix the problems if you are unwilling to look at them closely and critically
@tradeprosper5002
@tradeprosper5002 2 жыл бұрын
With only 1 out 8 Americans being black and less than that descended from slaves, not sure you are going to progress with that. I think that basic rights for all workers, universal healthcare and an increase in the minimum wage would have a better chance. How much are you going to pay the Amerindians who suffered genocide?
@carrieullrich5059
@carrieullrich5059 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously Amerindians? Are they from India? 🙄 Hard to believe that question was asked in gofundme d faith with the most racist thing to say about indigenous Americans. How about we honor the promises in our treaties? That would greatly improve the lives of indigenous people and its already something America said we would always do at minimum standards.
@carrieullrich5059
@carrieullrich5059 2 жыл бұрын
Good faith... Sorry kindle auto correct is horrid.
@LiminalAlice4417
@LiminalAlice4417 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that especially since around the podcast started it feels like there’s been a fair bit more humor in your content and I love it. I’m glad my college schedule still lets me see these as soon as possible (when I don’t sleep through class of course).
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying it!
@guyfauks2576
@guyfauks2576 2 жыл бұрын
Dank Memes: JT edition
@balu.92
@balu.92 2 жыл бұрын
I've been a long-time fan of the channel as well. I do prefer the usual style however, i.e., minus the humour. That felt more concise and gave the entire content a more point-of-authority feel.
@TheScottishBOLSHEVIK
@TheScottishBOLSHEVIK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they have its Turing into Wendover productions which I hate.
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t please everyone 🤷‍♂️
@danceamasta424
@danceamasta424 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally taught in middle school (2013) that the Black Panthers were the black equivalent to the KKK, in my US history class at my small private Catholic school…. absolutely crazy
@saintbrush4398
@saintbrush4398 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same. Just a violent cult of black nationalists when they were really fighting for liberation.
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast Жыл бұрын
Trusting Catholics with social education is like trusting fascists with the same. Mostly because zealous Catholic politics are largely indistinguishable from fascism
@JtotheUdith
@JtotheUdith Жыл бұрын
wow
@tylerlormand5644
@tylerlormand5644 Жыл бұрын
ya school lied
@HercuLync
@HercuLync Жыл бұрын
The KKK at it's peak also did social out reach. Many violent gangs have started doing community projects in the areas they "control" to boost their reputation. The Black Panthers were militant and violent. They did do good things and were not at all the Black KKK, but they weren't saints either.
@moe3235
@moe3235 9 ай бұрын
When the øppressørs are writing the books, evil is good and good is evil
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 2 ай бұрын
That is how it feels to read the Illiad.
@tayzonday
@tayzonday 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite KZbin channel.
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@goblinbabe
@goblinbabe 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@GeahkBurchill
@GeahkBurchill 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to work with you even more 😁
@camaradecarter
@camaradecarter 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god its the chocolate rain guy
@МагжанСыдыков
@МагжанСыдыков 2 жыл бұрын
I wish second thought would have a collaboration with Russian leftists such as Konstantin Syomin, Klim Zhukov, or Oleg Komolov. Konstantin did a collab with Richard Wolff if you know him. It was just fabulous. I believe it would be such an open-minder for people on both sides of the puddle. Salam aleikum, my American brovs and sisters!✊🏾✊🏻✊🏿🇺🇲🇰🇿
@rellie_90
@rellie_90 2 жыл бұрын
The Civil Rights Movement was a very *volatile, tense, death-ridden, anxiety filled and uncertain* time. And the way it’s taught in school will have you believe it lasted maybe 4 years. That movement started in the late 50s up to the mid-70s. That’s a long ass time to sustain a movement until the government effectively squashed any semblance of equality or equity to produce a real Democracy. They would rather spend massive amounts of tax dollars on that, instead of actually funding communities more effectively. How Stupid! 😒
@ah_libra
@ah_libra 2 жыл бұрын
@Rellie I agree, although I'd argue that it started way before the 50's. Crash Course Black History is where I learned that the 50's is where it really gained momentum (in response to the racist backlash of Brown v. Board of Education).
@nopenope1186
@nopenope1186 2 жыл бұрын
@Mateo Hodge redlining was way before Nixon
@nopenope1186
@nopenope1186 2 жыл бұрын
@Mateo Hodge nah most of it was from the 1930s
@meyou3772
@meyou3772 2 жыл бұрын
Many jobs were created with that tax money. They had to solidity the middle class and servant class. Just my opi
@nonconformist9930
@nonconformist9930 2 жыл бұрын
i would argue the fight started on 7/4/1776 when slavery was enshrined into the constitution in the fugative slave clause at the founding of our nation. (fun fact, the first person to use the fugative slave act was washington himself to reclaim "property" in the form of a blk female slave) and continues to this day as we are still not equal or free. racist hemogeny is ingrained into our national dna. it will always be a problem so long as racists can hide behind the first amendment to continue to push racist ideology. we cant legislate away racism. the struggle isnt over 400 unarmed blk folk murdered by police last year ..... the struggle aint over
@dave_riots
@dave_riots 2 жыл бұрын
Historical revisionism is one of Facism's favorite tools.
@curocurovic6675
@curocurovic6675 2 жыл бұрын
and we can observe it on this channel very precisely
@Nai-qk4vp
@Nai-qk4vp 2 жыл бұрын
@@curocurovic6675 "Nope, you are hypochloritical and hypocrite, I win , bye bye" -SirCocksuckerTheThird
@TechMik3LP
@TechMik3LP 2 жыл бұрын
@@curocurovic6675 pls care to explain, i thought he presents historical factums?
@waldothewalrus294
@waldothewalrus294 3 ай бұрын
Sure, but it's not a tool exclusive to fascists.
@pangean2986
@pangean2986 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know we were taught a false narrative about Nelson Mandela, mostly because I was never taught about him at all in school
@jjaa_joyjoyartist
@jjaa_joyjoyartist Жыл бұрын
Same, when he started the segment I was like "checks out" and then had to go "ohhh..." later on
@HercuLync
@HercuLync Жыл бұрын
This guys version of history is skewed to fit his own narrative. I find it amusing that he is pointing the finger at other that do the same.
@zilesis1
@zilesis1 Жыл бұрын
considering there's a tem called the "Mandela efect" which literally stands for people collectively believing something that isn't actually true, i'm not surprised (yes i know the term comes from the fact many people believed he dies in prison in the 80s and not the misrepresentation of his political career, but it's still broadly applicable)
@HercuLync
@HercuLync Жыл бұрын
@@natbrownizzle1387 The economy of the South was absolutely built on the backs of slaves and had a hard time recovering after slavery ended for a variety of reasons. The northern states with the exception of Vermont, were all slave states when the country was founded and Vermont only escaped that distinction by a few years. The northern colonies also relied heavily on slaves until industrialization which just happened to be starting about the same time our country was being founded. The groundwork for capitalism in the US was definitely build on slavery and shortly after slavery was abolished capitalism failed and it took socialist policies to repair it. These policies often excluded aid for blacks. MLK was not wrong about that. A much as he spoke out against capitalism and in favor of socialist reforms, he also recognized the benefits of capitalism. He described himself as socialist leaning. He said that slavery and other policies had created an unjust wealth gap and that those that had were actively working to prevent those that have not from gaining. This is still true. He wanted government intervention and socialism not to eliminate capitalism, but to ensure that it remained a just system that provided opportunities for all people. Most of his economic ideas were designed to reset a corrupted capitalist system and prevent that corruption from returning. His ideas were not socialism like USSR, China, or even Cuba. He was a pacifist to his core and would never have promoted ideas that he felt would lead to killing fields. He was advocating socialist policies to correct a system that was and is failing an increasing large portion of the population and work to make sure that it doesn't fail again. I have trouble finding any area where King was wrong in his message. He was an extremely intelligent and moral man and is rightly remembered and honored as such. There is nothing wrong with King's I have a dream speech. There are people that are abusing it and pretending the dream has been realized (it has not) and there are those that want to down play it so they can pretend King was a leader that was on par and agreed with leaders like the Black Panthers or Malcom X. He was greater than them and he did disagreed with their methods. Anti-racist is a buzz term most often used by people racists and people that want to pretend they care. The same people that donated millions to the BLM Organization which was known by people paying attention before 2020 to be run by morons. Their 2019 campaign was to try and stop a rich well known rapper from being deported back to his home country of England for crimes he actually committed while trying to build his street cred rather than speaking out against the trend of criminal records being seen as a positive.
@resphantom
@resphantom Жыл бұрын
@@HercuLync I can tell you now, the whole movement in South Africa made sense. It's best to provide everyone with equal opportunity, however the current ruling party was in ruling for almost 30 years. Infrastructure only went backwards, due to extreme amount of corruption and the fact that no-one in the ruling party actually seem to care about the people of their country. People or mostly older folk seems to be stuck voting for the same party that keeps stealing their money because of the whole Mandela legacy. We are at the brink of total blackout, up to 82 murders a day, some of the most holiest of roads and ancient degrading government systems that's still stuck on paper trail even though we have/had some of the best Software Engineers in the world. The country has been bleeding engineers and educated skilled workers. Generally we are fucked. Eskom the "public" power provider effectively shuts down any request for private energy generation, even though the country's economy needs it. The Government wants to set up a "state of disaster" even though they caused the problem in the first place, was warned about the power problem since the year 2000, just so they can quickly twist the rules and steal more money. Which is dumb since the problem could've and can still easily be fixed by opening up power generation to the private sector. Oh yeah, did I mention the military drills with Russia and China...I guess I didn't, did I? Because of that, USA effectively sanctioned this country by blocking off Uranium rod deals, which means the only Nuclear power station that produce a reasonable chunk of power will eventually run out of uranium by end of this year. And now they want to implement National Health Insurance by 2025, with what money or system? Governments should not run businesses, they should only govern and regulate various sectors and incentivize growth where needed. Socialism doesn't work, just like Communism and Capitalism. I effectively saw all 3 systems in my country fail at once. It's a mess. Capitalism's flaw - Greed Socialism's flaw - Sloth Communism's flaw - Oppression
@inf3rnalis804
@inf3rnalis804 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to MLK’s anti-capitalist speeches really help me feel like I’m not crazy. It gets to me sometimes, they way everyone treats you like you’re insane for being anti-capitalist.
@randomlygeneratedname7171
@randomlygeneratedname7171 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not supposed to be anti captilism your supposed to be anti big Government by enacting radical measures to stop that political class rigging things for their friends in business.
@mrbyzantine0528
@mrbyzantine0528 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 While that's a start, the end goal is anti-capitalist.
@randomlygeneratedname7171
@randomlygeneratedname7171 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrbyzantine0528 What system do you propose that is superior to private ownership?
@Alex_Barbosa
@Alex_Barbosa 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 lol communism of course. You know this is a communist channel right?
@inf3rnalis804
@inf3rnalis804 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 capitalism relies on exploitation. Capitalism will never be efficient and truly sustainable. The workers collectively owning the means of production is our only chance. MLK was anti-capitalist. You should be too.
@gspaulsson
@gspaulsson 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a historian, and questions like "why do history books lie" are irksome. There are official historians who write the stuff you learn in school, tame historians who cater to an audience, narrative historians who tell entertaining stories; pseudo-historians who make stuff up. Then there are analytical historians, who do all the hard work and write academic books and papers that only other historians read. There is no lie that goes unchallenged, no point of view that cannot find a voice. What you really mean is that true history is often a hard political sell, especially when cranks and bigots of every kind have their own tame or pseudo historians who tell them what they want to hear. The problem is the information bubbles, not the history. BTW, history is constantly written and rewritten, legitimately as new evidence turns up. No history book or article of any worth would be published unless it had something new to propose. Whitewashing 101 isn't rewriting history, it's crafting fiction.
@Matt_Fields_29
@Matt_Fields_29 2 жыл бұрын
A big reason history books across the country have this problem is because of Texas. They're one of the biggest clients and textbook companies write their textbooks to satisfy the Texas education boards. And Texas uses that ideological leverage unabashedly. When Texas orders a large enough number of textbooks to justify the costs of manufacturing, they sell the same textbooks to smaller less demanding states.
@rogerforsberg3910
@rogerforsberg3910 2 жыл бұрын
"...BTW, history is constantly written and rewritten, legitimately as new evidence turns up. No history book or article of any worth would be published unless it had something new to propose." Thank you for your insightful observation, Mr O! For those of us whose interest in history is merely recreational -- although seriously recreational -- it's always beneficial to hear opinions from legitimate practitioners.
@playablue
@playablue 2 жыл бұрын
This write here Is comepelte w…e supremacy
@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot
@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot 2 жыл бұрын
So whats the excuse for the whole daughters of confederacy taking over southern schools? Those books were published and widely used.
@mechanomics2649
@mechanomics2649 2 жыл бұрын
Yet history books and articles absolutely are published, with false information. As the other person said, the Daughters of the Confederacy is one of the best examples of this. You're, in your own words, crafting fiction. The rest of the comment appears to not really say all that much and is pedantic at best.
@jonathanwilson5355
@jonathanwilson5355 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I love to learn about the actual history of the civil rights movement. Second thought is honestly the goat.
@TheSundownState
@TheSundownState 2 жыл бұрын
🐐 on god
@smiller2114
@smiller2114 2 жыл бұрын
G.O.A.T.
@mrbyzantine0528
@mrbyzantine0528 2 жыл бұрын
@@rabbit251 It's the next step of bae
@Zarai_Numbers
@Zarai_Numbers 2 жыл бұрын
@@rabbit251 Greatest Of All Time
@olivernicholds
@olivernicholds 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@meatrackgames
@meatrackgames Жыл бұрын
i was born in south africa, lived there for 14 years (as a white afrikaner). mandela was absolutely labeled a terrorist by the nationalist press. my grandfather would not shut up about him being a "terrorist". he believed the propaganda hook, line and sinker.
@HakimButSouthAfrican
@HakimButSouthAfrican 11 ай бұрын
I'm south african (black) and the "mandela is a terrorist" talking point is the easiest way to spot a racist hope you're doing well
@YtpplareStupid
@YtpplareStupid 6 ай бұрын
Mandela was a Sellout
@OMAOILRIAN
@OMAOILRIAN 2 жыл бұрын
I had an amazing high school teacher that knew he had to teach the textbook, but also knew I loved history and had questions that the book didn't answer. He killed two birds with one stone and had me do weekly research papers on the lesson plan he made each week. Every Friday, I was able to teach actual history to my classmates through my papers. While I still love history and teach it via tutoring friends children and my nieces and nephews, I decided against teaching as a profession because I didn't want to teach propaganda to kids. Seeing the current climate in America, I am happy with my decision.
@Briggsian
@Briggsian 2 жыл бұрын
You had a great teacher!
@ah_libra
@ah_libra 2 жыл бұрын
@OMAOILRIAN very smart decision! I'm proud of you! :)
@user-gi3uw2th6m
@user-gi3uw2th6m 2 жыл бұрын
@Mateo Hodge He would have been censored by the government, though
@tayxxmonster
@tayxxmonster 2 жыл бұрын
I decided to do the same, tutor, bc I will not have parents/guardians and the government breathing down my neck as I teach the truth lol
@soversetile
@soversetile Жыл бұрын
Good choice
@makai5749
@makai5749 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they teach you that mlk didn't like capitalism in school or that the black panthers where Marxist Leninist and you only learn about one chairman.
@sherkhead9638
@sherkhead9638 2 жыл бұрын
As a black American, I am always skeptical when someone outside of the black community covers our icons. But you did an excellent job.
@M00NL9GHT
@M00NL9GHT 2 жыл бұрын
Same. My experience with none black people talking about black history or anything that has to do with black people wasn't nice. They always give opinions and force them unto us as if we they were facts, and are like “this *white person's name* was bad, BUT-" leave out the bad parts, twist the story to make innocent people look bad and make it look like they got what they deserve, etc.
@AJ-sw8uf
@AJ-sw8uf 2 жыл бұрын
Facts lol I was ready to hate
@tonyarmstrong5527
@tonyarmstrong5527 2 жыл бұрын
Yea this was a good video
@angelofdeath275
@angelofdeath275 2 жыл бұрын
same. glad he disappointed me ❤️
@eggzzdee
@eggzzdee 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish Asian people in North America have more of this kind of attitude...
@nabihaahmed1738
@nabihaahmed1738 Жыл бұрын
I remember disliking mlk’s whole philosophy when I was a kid and preferred Malcom x. turns out this whole time I actually agreed with him my school just didn’t want me to know the truth 🤷🏿‍♀️
@joefes7409
@joefes7409 7 ай бұрын
Based
@prim.an.propher1505
@prim.an.propher1505 6 ай бұрын
It was the other way around for me. All we spoke about was MLK but my school hid Malcolm X, but I went to school in the south
@MakNCheese88
@MakNCheese88 2 жыл бұрын
I posted in January about MLK's fervent anti-capitalist rhetoric, to which my MAGA friend replied "Nobody's perfect". Unknowingly both acknowledging that King's legacy is whitewashed, and admitting that they stand against what King fought for. Conservative self-owns never cease to please.
@christianbarrett3040
@christianbarrett3040 2 жыл бұрын
I once had someone tell me that MLK was drunk when he wrote a letter to his sister endorsing democratic socialism
@zakurn1086
@zakurn1086 2 жыл бұрын
So, not agreeing with anti capitalism is agreeing on white washing and being against everything they fought for?
@mikhailzikry6227
@mikhailzikry6227 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad that you take other peoples opinions into account but uh he should probably read on some youtube videos not us textbooks because I dont know if those textbooks talk about Mlk detailed
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 2 жыл бұрын
@@zakurn1086 Basically yeah. Not being anti-capitalist means supporting a white supremacist system.
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 2 жыл бұрын
@@TurtleChad1 Careful, dude is a consistent troll.
@jayDee92133
@jayDee92133 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see a video about Fred Hampton or Malcolm X because the lies that conservatives spew about them is disgusting.
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’d like to do a full episode on the Black Panthers
@stonemclaughlin7455
@stonemclaughlin7455 2 жыл бұрын
@@SecondThought Malcolm X is such a Hidden gem
@tonyjones1560
@tonyjones1560 2 жыл бұрын
The circumstances surrounding the death (state-sanctioned assassination, really) of Fred Hampton would be worth a video IMO
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody does it honestly. Never the full story.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 2 жыл бұрын
MX in particular is used by conservatives in the bootstrap argument
@penzlic
@penzlic 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in (socialist) country that no longer exist, and being a bookworm, I also read some encyclopaedias and school books from time when my dad was my age ( from 60' and early 70') and there was a lot about liberation struggle in Africa, mostly about Lubumba, Sese Seko, Kenyatta, etc but not many (if few) even mentioned MLK rather than general "USA treats people bad" narrative. Many years later and having internet, whole idealistic picture of USA that is served by mass media abroad begun to crumble, and by crumble I mean landsliding into the depths of WTF ocean.
@ah_libra
@ah_libra 2 жыл бұрын
As an american, this kind of awakening has happened to many of us too. And hopefully it happens to more and more people.
@jonashardenhaug179
@jonashardenhaug179 2 жыл бұрын
USA, I have a lot of bad news for you and 90% of them was your very sorry fault. Let us start with something simple, meeting your pops base necesities. While you you pump out loads of amenities from your clerks, moguls and merchants jobs and other corporate jobs, those amenities are at large channeled to your specialists and rulers, while leaving the workers behind, only giving them measly +5% happiness. While your specialist and rulers can keep tabs on 5 and 9 workers each, as your living conditions are set to strattified economy. this alone will make your amenities yo-yoing from hundreds to minus hundreds in any given state, thanks to economic crashes every 5-7 years, thus sliding to my next bad new: Massive neglect and reluctance to improve your infrastructure and provide your workers with food, water, housing, meds and education. Talking about food, water, meds, education and housing; they all fall into a similar problem: You have plenty of avaible food, water, housing, education and meds, but thanks to fully privatized resource handling, a market based economy with trade value being unreliable as ever for energy and alloys and said stratification of said resources, means that you rely heavly on your rulers and specialists to keep your stability above 50% in any states at any given time. Not only will your workers be less productive and extremly unhappy, thanks to you clinging on limit working hours policy, using labour age and blessings edicts (nation wide campaings that change how your empire works and alters amy stats from simple resource upkeep increase/decrease to more abstract stats like edict cap, admin cap and more), but you will pump out loads of resources, especially raw resources like minerals, food and energy. If you thought that the happiness malus was bad, those workers are much more likely to catch diseases, thus running the risk of having flues, tropical diseases like the West Nile virus to camp within your borders and eventually become immune to your treatments and meds you so desperatly tries to profit of. Those diseases will send your pop growth to abyss, or at least slowing it down by 10-40%, as your workers your main bulk of your pop count, and your specialists and rulers reproduce somewhat slowly, like 2-3 kids in 40-50 years. Thus leading to my third bad new; utterly unprepared for any climate and geological distasters like tornadoes, earthquakes, droughts, storms and ao on. Those will inflict at least 10% devastation on the inflicted states, reducing your amenitiy, resource production, housing and jobs upkeep by 10%, eat those every 5-6 months, in one of your 52 states. That in addition to their respective effects, like drought reducing your food and water production by at least 20% (multiplicative, so forget about using stacking modifiers to said resource production to "escape" the malus, or tornadoes and storms to shred cities, resource districts, pipeline and telecoms with ease, costing you 1000s of minerals to fix, if ever done. That will happens more often as the climate changes amplify or even alters each states climate and weather. Unemployed pops, in particular workers will send your state happiness down the drain as 1 ruler per 1000 workers will have little impact on pop approval (how content are your populations with your currents policies and ethics), so expect to see alot of unrest and even outright protests. Your exorbitant amount of enforcers will at least keep the crime rate down to comfortably 20-30% where you still can extract your so beloved prisoners to your poor camps. While you are busy trying to vassalize/ turn China to a capitalistic, zenophobic, militaristic, authoterian and insutrialistic trade partner or otherwise flex your military muscles, your pops, especially in the worker classes and to some degree specialists as well, rapidly shift their ethics over to cooparatism (any degree of collectivism, usually to socialism, the fanatic version of collectivism and economic equality), zenophilia (love of the unknown, especially in term of cultures and intelligent lifeform), ecosentrism (nature over human made environments like cities, mines, factories and more, as well as emphazis on sustainable resource production), libertarianism, also known as egalitarianism (political equality) and many more, bur mainly those afformentioned ethics. This cause even more unrest and unhappy pops, which in turn cause your empire sprawl (the administrative strain your pops, districts, buildings; can be called infrastructure, territory in terms of numbers of cities, states, communes, star system and colonies in space age) to increase as unhappy pops will do whatever they can to make it harder for you to gains intel on them and organize them. While you are doing splendid resource wise and still doing decently on the sciences, your unity production is crap, as you may have seen and noticed as rise in conspiracy theories, increasingly divided pops and cultural products of subpar quality. So even if your facism awakening will buy you time, you will eventually splinter up before year 2100, while China regain their former gory as a trade powerhouse and enter the World stage. Good luck with your decay, Merica.
@charlestonianbuilder344
@charlestonianbuilder344 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonashardenhaug179 all empires will fall, and it seems the clock is ticking on america, but i dont think china would be the next superpower, as america will do anything to be number one, rip
@estacion7386
@estacion7386 2 жыл бұрын
@@ah_libra That vision of "murica" world police, must die and rott in hell
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
I am 🇺🇸. Some time in high school (I was about 16) I found out about the death squads we inflicted on El Salvador. I stopped pledging allegiance to the flag. We had to stand for the pledge, but I didn't have to say it. I didn't. American school children are generally supposed to stand up and pledge allegiance to the flag every morning, which is brainwashing.
@coena9377
@coena9377 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in an affluent liberal suburb that was 97% white (according to the 2010 census, taken when I was 8). Thank you so much for this. Your channel has helped a lot with unpacking the capitalist whitewashed version of history I was taught.
@rontom3405
@rontom3405 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this... This is the stuff I tell people but refuse to believe because it destroys what they learned in school.. as an African American male.. I say you did amazing in explaining things... Happy black history month.. and for others,please read more about our history outside school
@ErutaniaRose
@ErutaniaRose 2 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree. Some of things I have found didn’t shock me so much as they made me angry. I just don’t understand why people let fear and ignorance get so far up their a$$ That it hits their brain. Like, how hard is it to just...not hate people, or to value people more than money or false reputation. Why is a false reputation and fake equality so much “better” than a true and good reputation and real equality and equity??? Like...WHY? I can’t. And thank you. Education of Black historia and/or women’s historia should not be confined to a single (and the shortest) month.
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 2 жыл бұрын
People choose truth off of identity. It’s only true when someone more popular or famous says it. Even if you say it first. Clout decides facts. And that fact, disgusts me
@hithere748
@hithere748 2 жыл бұрын
🙄🙄🙄🙄
@PhilSFreep
@PhilSFreep 2 жыл бұрын
Every opportunity to de-mythologize and knock down that truly awful president Reagan is appreciated - thanks
@johnl6176
@johnl6176 2 жыл бұрын
I hope history removes his image and literally replaces it with a 6'1" flake of dandruff. That cracked me up.
@icyx9268
@icyx9268 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wiimeiser well if that is what it takes for true justice because see alot of ppl dont realise this But we are living through just as much mind control as north korea But because we are super power we cant and dont look at it that way we look at it as the reality of all current realities for humans eventhough it is still a delusion created by a small amount of thoughtless ppl that are willing and that are sending humanity into death spiral for short turm selfish greed of getting most amount of control as possible even if it destroys everyone and it is because 90+% of ppl are stupid and so there is a pretty good chance if someone becomes rich they will be stupid and Not disciplined or thoughtful enough to fight toddler like primal instincts and will just drool and cave to and at first sight of whatever thoughtless split second in moment thing that apeals to primal instincts and Not only Not fight them But actively go agains't greater good which in long turm is greater good for them aswell it is like a child getting parents credit card and thoughtlessly spending it all on a toy or first toy that there primal instincts that have been psychologically manipulated by the toy and will thoughtlessly buy it even if it is either dont pay rent your family go's homeless or buy that toy they will still choose to buy that toy Not because they are making that decision or even doing that calculation because they are not they are buying that toy without any consideration of rent or going homeless and a complete dissmissal of it because they dont even realise they are technically from broad spectrum unknowledgable to know that that is happening
@curtisthomas2670
@curtisthomas2670 2 жыл бұрын
He took part in the Hollywood blacklisting, anti-sgemitic and anti-gay witchu ts, McCarthy era Red Scare. He was involved in the Nixon scandals. His campaign team negotiated delaying the release of hostages in lran so as to avoid giving Carter a pr boost and possibly election victory. Btw there's rumors of him and Rock Hudson ........
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast Жыл бұрын
@@Wiimeiser Capitalism's failure is built into capitalism itself, it isn't some world-ending cataclysm you seem to be implying. That's just your programming talking: The world existed long before capitalism and _will_ exist even longer after it. It is ideological zealotry and naivete to assume otherwise, like a Roman assuming Rome would last forever
@Az-dc4nu
@Az-dc4nu Жыл бұрын
💯
@crevail
@crevail 2 жыл бұрын
I've learned more about history and politics in two weeks of binging every single one of your political videos than I have in 16 years of formal American education
@TheSundownState
@TheSundownState 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a rush isn’t it? Hmu if you want some books to read
@Social_Pugatory
@Social_Pugatory 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSundownState I want some books to read. Preferably from some black authors too.
@189Blake
@189Blake 2 жыл бұрын
You misspelled American propaganda
@falkorornothing261
@falkorornothing261 2 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out any from Adam Something or Saint Andrew? Those are 2 other great video essayists. I know there are more but my mind is blanking.
@guy-sl3kr
@guy-sl3kr 2 жыл бұрын
@@falkorornothing261 Saint Andrew's cool but Adam Something is a lib. Look at his community posts, they're half pictures of trains and half think tank talking points. If you're looking for a channel that talks about public transport, Not Just Bikes is better imo.
@nemoquodeus8119
@nemoquodeus8119 Жыл бұрын
"True compassion is more than flipping a coin to a beggar; it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring." - MLK, 1968, "Beyond Vietnam" speech
@alarimbaud3155
@alarimbaud3155 2 жыл бұрын
Specific focuses aside, MLK/Malcolm X/James Baldwin/etc... were all effectively consciously condemning capitalism (and the systems around it) with warnings society ignored, and here we are. Similar to the condemnations/warnings of Wilde, Dickens, Marx, Rousseau, etc... before. Which were similar to those of basically every major religious figure of antiquity (Jesus, Buddha, Moses, etc...). Which were similar to most major philosophical schools of antiquity (Diogenes was a student of Socrates, after all). Etc... Core idea: keep your own biases and anxieties in check before projecting them onto others (not to therefore ignore the core issue because you, personally, "don't see color"). Stop exploiting others; stop exploiting each other; stop feeling others have the right to exploit you. Put that on a t-shirt (made by kids in Malaysia)!
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 2 жыл бұрын
Even establishment leaders from Eisenhower to Carter warned the country of a voracious military-industrial-complex (Eisenhower) and our hyper-consumerism/environmental devastation (Carter)
@auroch8335
@auroch8335 2 жыл бұрын
.
@voxomnes9537
@voxomnes9537 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeanthony7759 And yet both still perpetuated those systems. Don't talk about those presidents as though they weren't part of the problem
@katherinehenley2008
@katherinehenley2008 2 жыл бұрын
That is the truth
@InsightfulZen
@InsightfulZen 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a teenager I always questioned why Nelson Mandela was always included in American history textbooks when talking about the Civil Rights Era. It always felt a little off because until that point, South Africa's history is a complete mystery up until Mandela's presidency and it was never made clear how bad Apartheid was, just that Mandela ended it. This is a really good observation and wow does it explain a lot.
@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45
@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 Жыл бұрын
Also Mandela was a huge friend of Fidel Castro and did not like the US at all lmao.
@SciFi2285
@SciFi2285 10 ай бұрын
Most westerners are genuinely perplexed as to why South Africa always seems to side with China and Russia over them whenever there is a crisis. But it is not hard to understand why. The West (America, Britain, France, West [later unified] Germany, Israel, New Zealand, and Australia especially) had a tendency to speak out of both sides of their mouths. Simultaneously claiming to abhor apartheid while providing diplomatic cover, economic support, and even arms to the white minority regime. Demanding that blacks cease resistance and initiate “constructive engagement” with whites even though they were the ones being brutalized.
@InsightfulZen
@InsightfulZen 10 ай бұрын
@@SciFi2285 Ohhh that makes a ton of sense. That's why our history books don't really talk that much about South Africa. Thank you for sharing that context
@johnindigo5477
@johnindigo5477 7 ай бұрын
Same. I bet a lot of kids thought Mandela was american. I learned about apartied on my own in middle school and it's interesting seeing how counties can run parallel
@dirtypagan5793
@dirtypagan5793 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve only realized this recently, but a similar narrative applies to Canadian history in the oppression of First Nations people(aka. American Indian, Métis and Inuit). My First Nations coworker made it apparent that they were still being not being allowed into businesses and police were raiding and burning down some houses on the reserve as late as the 90’s in some places. When you think about the history of human nature in these types of situations it’s pretty odious that this would be the case but I never thought about it because I think a part of me didn’t want to believe it. Of course a big issue happening here right now is the court cases trying to get compensation for residential schools, but the government has focused on it to make it look like it was the only big problem, and now they’re in the middle of fixing it. People want to settle in the more comfortable narrative that their country has no major problems, and the ones around are being or are mostly fixed.
@Briggsian
@Briggsian 2 жыл бұрын
Canada's treatment of First Nations people is easily one of its biggest failings.
@leighhennessy8212
@leighhennessy8212 2 жыл бұрын
We have the same issues in Australia with our First Nation peoples. We are taught aboriginal customs but we aren't taught about the stolen generation and a multitude of other things that are essential.
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 2 жыл бұрын
Canadian history is surprisingly much more culturally whitewashed than American history, even without CRT scare. Somehow they're more willing to acknowledge institutional racism and history in Canada, but yet at the same time its far more pre-censored. Like Canada supporting anti-abolitionists, its very explicit white supremacist roots against indigenous people from its early priministers, the support of the SS Nazis, and some segregation elements that also historically existed though mostly retained politically with reservations. The sorely homogeny of their own music industry, and sports history. A lot. Its just retended that everything was fine but just lacking in visible representaton rather than history. Read any history book in Canada and all you get is the war in 1812 and pretty much the "whitest" centered history you'll ever see.
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is people like you who are lead to the water and accept the drink are in the vast minority. Most people refuse the water and truth and don't accept or care about the suffering of others if it even ever so slightly inconveniences them.
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 жыл бұрын
@@leighhennessy8212 "White Australia" be like
@anitanielsen1061
@anitanielsen1061 Жыл бұрын
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
Howdy, friends! I hope you all enjoy the video. This one could easily have been twice as long, so maybe I’ll do a part 2 at some point. If you’re enjoying the videos I put out, please consider supporting me on Patreon! I haven’t had a sponsor in a while and I don’t have any on the horizon, so every donation helps. Every patron gets early access to each video, plus access to our patrons-only Discord server. It’s a lot of fun! We even have a book club. Either way, thanks for watching, and I appreciate your support! Patreon.com/secondthought
@honestreviewer4864
@honestreviewer4864 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO A PART 2!!! IF YOU SEE THIS COMMENT!😭😩
@captaincorleone7088
@captaincorleone7088 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please! As soon as you said that the video was shortened because of constraints, I immediately thought to visit the comments and ask that you produce a 2nd part. I cannot speak for others but I would've watched a video that was twice as long. 🙂
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 2 жыл бұрын
So the world has 193 countries how many countries do you think are spiralling down in the same level as America? And a request:- make some science videos while you can
@_Jaybefaunt
@_Jaybefaunt 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a Part 2. We are the Revolutionary Blackout Network talk about this all the time and it's nice to see others (especially non-black people) talk about this accurately.
@MishaFlower
@MishaFlower 2 жыл бұрын
When a e you gonna make a video about your fbi document?
@chrisbacos
@chrisbacos 2 жыл бұрын
In my high school US History class on the first day, our teacher announced "we won't use that piece of crap called a textbook, that's for the birds.
@mikhailzikry6227
@mikhailzikry6227 2 жыл бұрын
Good because its whitewashed I am glad that you guys get an actual history class
@chrisbacos
@chrisbacos 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikhailzikry6227 for the most part in high school I didn't "learn" anything worth a damn.
@tonyjones1560
@tonyjones1560 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my Black History teacher, Mr. Gillum. He'd start out with the textbook but he'd turn around and say, "Okay, now here's the rest of the story, the parts that are deliberately left out, glossed over or just flat lied about." He did that with history across the board, BTW.
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbacos America doesn’t educate people it brainwashes them
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyjones1560 he get fired?
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 2 жыл бұрын
My mostly black coworkers at an old job were quizzed by being asked who said the first half of what was later revealed to be the IHAD speech. I was the only who actually had read the whole speech. My coworkers shouted me down as the ignorant non black dude. The speaker who read the first half was shocked I knew it was the IHAD speech. Her mouth literally dropped open. So, yeah, you are right about MLK being one dimensional in America.
@MamaKatt
@MamaKatt 2 жыл бұрын
Because the white people who decided what is taught in school decided to reduce MLK to the small one line. IF I am not mistaken in my life time he occupied ONE page in my history book.
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 2 жыл бұрын
I have a similar experience whenever I have to correct Whites about their history I think they should know.
@johnallenbailey1103
@johnallenbailey1103 2 жыл бұрын
I routinely have to tell white people that "being judged by the content of your character," is one excerpt from one speech out of hundreds of speeches.
@tommyellenbecker4786
@tommyellenbecker4786 2 жыл бұрын
And so did pretty much everyone else lol
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone really knows about it in full. Including a lot of black americans I listen to today. If they did, there wouldn't still be so much fall back support these corporate democrats. The intergration of marxism anti-capitalism and the root of racism from capitalism isn't well taught, but understood by MLK. I don't know if it was said but he was often infering it.
@cosmicdib4823
@cosmicdib4823 Жыл бұрын
The way MLK speaks bro... He says such strong and forward-thinking words in this soothing yet strong voice.
@NWKBricks1
@NWKBricks1 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, as usual. I believe Dr.Cornel West called this the "Santa Clausification "of MLK.
@smiller2114
@smiller2114 2 жыл бұрын
Love Dr. Cornell West!
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын
What? Pointing out that he was a man of principle unlike the black leaders today? 😊
@user-em6ie2be7x
@user-em6ie2be7x 2 жыл бұрын
As a Black man I'd personally love to see The Black Panthers make a comeback.
@missedyadobalina8619
@missedyadobalina8619 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of community groups that would love your help! And subscribe to Black Power Media
@alexsch2514
@alexsch2514 2 жыл бұрын
Irish here with the same opinion on the O-IRA
@joeyginise6051
@joeyginise6051 2 жыл бұрын
@@missedyadobalina8619 That name is super suspect.
@alexsch2514
@alexsch2514 2 жыл бұрын
@@CulturalMarxist4985 I was specifically talking OIRA (official IRA) which had an explicitly Marxist independently Ireland in mind, although all IRAs were decently left leaning.
@ltstar9612
@ltstar9612 2 жыл бұрын
Based department calling
@jakjam300
@jakjam300 2 жыл бұрын
"Malcolm X never lived to see the government fall, but the state he opposed made him a stamp. And that's the best you can hope for if you never give up, your enemies will teach your corpse to dance." - Pat the Bunny
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502 5 ай бұрын
That was ill as shit. Nice
@Simzoid
@Simzoid 2 жыл бұрын
As a British history student, I find it bizarre how one of the most iconic figures in American history is so poorly understood. Great video and fantastic analysis.
@Tarnz93
@Tarnz93 Жыл бұрын
As a Black British person. I also find it crazy that the only person we hear about re: black British history us Mary Seacole. Our British black history doesn't include the brixton riots, Bristol bus boycotts, history of nottinghill carnival etc
@LonDanDoc
@LonDanDoc 6 ай бұрын
It's cos the British establishment never wants to look at itself. So it just points at the Americans and goes "see , baaaad. Us , good" ​they won't discuss how they threw ppl in concentration camps in Kenya or how the British Raj east India tea company economic policies led to more than 30 million killed through famine. No large scale famine has occured since the British left. Funny that @@Tarnz93
@SiyabongaZulu-hh5hu
@SiyabongaZulu-hh5hu 6 ай бұрын
Whats more crazy is as a south african i've never heard about black history in Britain how did that pass by
@dpeasehead
@dpeasehead 4 ай бұрын
@Simzoid: Anything that challenges the notion that America is uniquely moral and righteous is either disappeared or distorted. That has always been the case.
@Pridetoons
@Pridetoons 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see these people try to whitewash Malcolm X, the Black Panthers, or the Black Liberation Movement, however we all know why they're not going to try that one.
@Fafnd
@Fafnd 2 жыл бұрын
The powerful will just try to erase it or make them out to be the bad guys so brainwashed right wingers and centrists will commit violence against them.
@georgekostaras
@georgekostaras 2 жыл бұрын
Usually they vilify the likes of Malcolm. I was going through my old comic book collection and the black panthers were painted as being no different from Nazis. The propaganda is real
@CreationsFlare
@CreationsFlare 2 жыл бұрын
They don't try to convert those, they simply view them as terrorists so they must be wrong. Don't listen to them, they're bad people!
@Dhumm81
@Dhumm81 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't that recent CIA/Marvel flick attempt to whitewash the BPP in a round about way? Seems they basically copied their name and aesthetics, but made them foreign techno-feudal fuckwads, and that latter bit presented as supposedly a "good" thing. (I'm going on previews and critical reviews; I haven't watched it, and I never will.)
@wildernessisland2573
@wildernessisland2573 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dhumm81 which movie is this? I don't follow Marvel movies closely
@Rwhalt
@Rwhalt 2 жыл бұрын
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” -George Orwell
@samage2
@samage2 2 жыл бұрын
Even tho he was a plagiarist and a bad person, he got it right with that line
@luc6284
@luc6284 2 жыл бұрын
And ironically he himself contributed so much to this distortion of history.
@Rwhalt
@Rwhalt 2 жыл бұрын
@@luc6284 IKR? Hard to tell if this quote was a warning or a mantra. 🙃
@luc6284
@luc6284 2 жыл бұрын
@@CulturalMarxist4985 Animal Farm and 1984 are excellent propaganda pieces still used by the state to demonise communism to this day. Orwell was a snitch who gave names of communists to the British police state in the middle of WWII when comrades throughout Europe were fighting to the death against the Nazi beast. He was a sellout and an opportunist.
@luc6284
@luc6284 2 жыл бұрын
@@CulturalMarxist4985 Animal Farm is shitty critique though. It is not a real thing. Real history is a lot more nuanced and complex and this book certainly does not reflect real events in the USSR at the time. In my eyes it's pretty clear. If you work with the feds, you're not a comrade.
@ComradeConfucius
@ComradeConfucius 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I always wonder what MLK would say to Thomas Sowell, every Republican's favourite black dude.
@МагжанСыдыков
@МагжанСыдыков 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas "the uncle Tom" you mean?
@ooooooooooooooooooooopppppp
@ooooooooooooooooooooopppppp Жыл бұрын
He would call him a backward coon
@rustyshackleford2605
@rustyshackleford2605 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day people who went against the powers that be were demonized. Today, they're demonetized.
@dpeasehead
@dpeasehead 4 ай бұрын
@rustyshakleford2605: Or more likely, both.
@thankouf01
@thankouf01 2 жыл бұрын
At least I will get to see this whitewashing video before it gets age restricted. Again
@IronKnight2402
@IronKnight2402 2 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@ashj_2088
@ashj_2088 2 жыл бұрын
Before it gets pulled 🤯🔫
@traposucio2944
@traposucio2944 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Some more news's video about this; it's a wonderful, longer version of this. This one synthesises the thesis better, although the other shows more original clips of MLK and arguments. I totally recommend it. As a Spaniard who was raised by people who know what fascism is, allow me to apply some positive condescending and europeanness here so my fellow proletariat American friends get to understand one thing. The MLK whitewashing with the single line from a single speech thing fits COMPLETELY the definition Goebbels gave for propaganda. I strongly advise anyone, particularly when living in the anglosphere, to study with attention the 11 principles of propaganda Goebbels described. As I see it, during the cold war both the Soviets and, particularly, the Americans perfected the method and applied it widely, particularly Americans (and as freaking globally as they could), since. You have to understand it was mixed with marketing and other social science, including leftist staff as Foucault and Derrida. I cannot empathise enough that, even though Spain under franco was an militar autocracy product of a genocidal civil war, the levels of propaganda I see in America since Reagan and mostly since Trump, are WAY more propagandistic than anything I know of the Franco dictatorship. If not even before. Truly. I hate freaking Franco, don't get me wrong. But I despise Fox News even more. It's unbelievable how they sell the population that they defend that's liberty and freedom. Or that freedom is a tradition to be preserved rather than an objective. Or how perverted all enlightened liberalism and notions such as individualism seem to be now in the US and rest of the anglosphere. Also in the rest of the world, but not as delusional or widespread. Here in Spain we at least we can compare to all systems, pretty much. We invented WWII after all. And it was going on here, up to a certain point, even before fascism became a thing in Italy. I insist because I've had many discussions online with pretty educated and rational Americans who would show to be simply deluded under certain arguments and realities only due to that veeeeeery hard propaganda they've lived under for their whole lives. Which applies to the American "left" too except for people considered as "radical" everywhere, like this community I suppose. So beware. This isn't new. No country has ever been as fascistic in the marxist sense as America is now. The Nazis didn't live in a global society with internet, big data and AI. And in the end, even though many Americans react to opinions such as mine with a nationalistic "who's asked you, you foreigner", the world is global and I live in the same machine. I suppose that's why we Europeans can be so arrogant with yanks online. There's some messages Americans so totally need to get from us for humanity's sake and the machine doesn't let you get totally out of Plato's cavern. I am optimistic, though. The youth is waking up slowly. Trump and such are just a reaction to it, IMO. And the fuckers are deemed to die off and lose. But we gotta fight for that. I applaud the efforts of this channel as education is absolutely necessary for that end and I can't think of a better 101 format than the one I see in this videos. There's no better form of activism nowadays. Gotta fight propaganda with education and using the same technological tools. Congrats.
@rellie_90
@rellie_90 2 жыл бұрын
This American believes you. Idk if that’s saying much though, since typically the most oppressed doesn’t get the option or luxury to opt out of reality, but some try. 🤷🏾‍♀️
@mannysilver211
@mannysilver211 2 жыл бұрын
Well said my friend, well said.If only more over here had your kind of perspective.But then I guess they would be new here wouldn't they?Anyway hope you have a good week.
@traposucio2944
@traposucio2944 2 жыл бұрын
@@rellie_90 sure! There's still relative freedom and relative access to information. It's not like here, that I can access about half public university libraries content in Europe for free, got (nearly, tho. I am still exploited) a Law degree just because I wanted and such, but the internet is quite something when you are critical and know how to research. Much of my education comes from American moocs, tbh. I don't think there would be an antiwork movement in the US without the internet, for instance. Or a Bernie. And that's massive. When the first international met, they couldn't have dreamt of something like that. As I said, the fuckers are about to die off, for sure! And allow me being a bit cynical for a bit, but your point about the tendency of the oppressed to see reality is a horrible fact and yet makes me feel optimistic nowadays. Isn't pretty much all the world's population clearly oppressed now? The disappearance or reduction of privileged white middle classes in America and Europe has a lot to do with the so called "woke" trend of trying to understand and feel empathy towards oppressed groups that were the main radical activists before, like ethnic and racial minorities, LGTB and so on. Things look pretty promising to me, in a way. Let me take god out of the equation here and say that progress acts in mysterious ways. Not sure if that makes any sense. We just gotta fight, be coherent and educate our kids properly. Every purchase is a vote too, as it was brilliantly explained in the carbon footprint video.
@85CCM75
@85CCM75 2 жыл бұрын
As a joke I thought I would just post a comment saying this is all Reagan’s fault and lo and behold it was bro I can’t how many things that Reagan has fucked up
@skore9975
@skore9975 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really recommend everyone to read Stokely Carmichael's Black Power. It is an enlightening work and really sets out plainly the whitewashing of the Black radicalism that actually made progress in civil rights. Revolutionary Suicide by Huey Newton and Dark Ghetto by Kenneth Clark are also great reads in that regard.
@nonconformist9930
@nonconformist9930 2 жыл бұрын
dont give wi folk accolaids but i am impressed by your depth of reading. i wish more blk folk would read these works. id add ..Im not your negro and The nigga theorey.
@_Jaybefaunt
@_Jaybefaunt 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was on point and needed. Many times people don't listen to us black leftists when we try to talk about the civil rights leaders of yesteryear. Thank you for doing this.
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and just doing a quick read of the comments I can tell that there are plenty of White people who still aren't quite getting it.
@nicolasleroux5302
@nicolasleroux5302 2 жыл бұрын
@@1MarkKeller No, YOU people don’t get it. MLK’s movement has devastated this country. Every city in this country led by ⚫️ Americans has third world poverty/crime rates. It’s absolutely disgraceful that cities like Detroit (once referred to as America’s Paris) now look like giant ghettos. And to make matters even worse, now we have to listen to you people lecture use about justice even though your community is overrepresented in every single category of violent crime.
@voxomnes9537
@voxomnes9537 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasleroux5302 Yikes 🤫
@nicolasleroux5302
@nicolasleroux5302 2 жыл бұрын
@@voxomnes9537 Having a homicide rate worse than the narco state we border is the real yikes.
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasleroux5302 PLEASE cry more and cry louder.
@adamsmith5207
@adamsmith5207 2 жыл бұрын
6'1" dandruff flake to describe Ronald Reagan is my new favorite thing ever.
@andersonneil2293
@andersonneil2293 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love more on Malcolm X, and I guess that means I need to do independent research. When I was growing up he was portrayed as "evil" MLK, like killmonger from black panther
@nonconformist9930
@nonconformist9930 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 because to racists and imperialists that excatly what he was. he was a direct threat to their power in a way few other people were. having said that, there are two distinct X identities when he went to mecca. the X that returned was more polished, refined and astute having learned he had been deceived by the nation of islam and taught to hate. X is complex, your going to have to read a lot about him to wrap your head around him. but he was always on point once he "woke" up pre or post mecca
@avirei98
@avirei98 Жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid and I learned about the Black Panthers I was told that they were a terrorist group, And then I found out in my late twenties there was a whole world of false history that we were taught. I I was already aware of this but how deep it went I was not aware of. And it's thanks to videos like this that paints the full picture Martin Luther King is painted in such a great light but it's like they completely ignored most of what he said I remember them playing his speech in school. I remember hearing about Nelson Mandela or whatever the dude in South Africa and about him being arrested and blah blah blah blah, and him ending apartheid. But I also heard he wasn't a great person and that was a false history and he was a terrorist. Thanks to your video I find out he tried to start things off peacefully and then had to escalate it to get them to listen and it wasn't even all him. (This sounds very familiar because when people were trying to condemn the riots for the BLM and I don't even support BLM but when people were trying to condemn those riots as if throughout our history white people have never rioted to make out change)
@brilsraist
@brilsraist 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in lower middle class white semi-rural America I was astounded when I started learning how whitewashed history, and black history in particular, is. And going through it I didn't question my conditioning because it was all I ever knew
@brilsraist
@brilsraist 2 жыл бұрын
@@james_chatman I see a lot of the "jokes" my peers used to make as hardened, held beliefs now, so I know exactly what you mean.
@TheFairchildCollective
@TheFairchildCollective 2 жыл бұрын
As a native South African i feel if your section on Mandela could have been better worded but i agree with 100% of your points considering the pacification of Mandela as a narrative. I still see this kind of misrepresentation of him and his true politics here in SA ( though admittedly it is improving). great vid as always :)
@Blackrain7070
@Blackrain7070 2 жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying the Deprogram podcast that you've been working on, it's been very informative in a fun way
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! It’s a lot of fun to make 😁
@nastynate534
@nastynate534 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, PLUG this one some more then. I haven't heard of this podcast yet, despite watching all of this channels episodes.
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 2 жыл бұрын
@@SecondThought I cant pay to watch or listen to it so yeah I am missing out a lot
@mudd3rz215
@mudd3rz215 2 жыл бұрын
@@goutamboppana961 it's free, I listen to it on Google podcast
@Deris76
@Deris76 2 жыл бұрын
@@mudd3rz215 Good to know it's somewhere outside of Spotify, finally able to watch my favorite commie podcast outside of the anti-science-enabling platform
@kellykerr5225
@kellykerr5225 2 жыл бұрын
I have a dream that some day people will realize I had more than just one speech.
@Azeratos
@Azeratos 2 жыл бұрын
The first paragraph of Lenin's State & Revolution sum up MLK's Legacy in the US to a tee: "During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."
@KaelGen
@KaelGen 2 жыл бұрын
Second thought - The shit you should've learned in history class but didn't
@yenziwemotha3049
@yenziwemotha3049 2 жыл бұрын
Living here in South Africa I can say that documents were released that showed that Mandela and the ANC negotiated with the apartheid regime to basically keep everything the same and just remove the "Geen Swartes toegelaat" or "No blacks allowed signs". Yes I am a black South African who can perfectly speak the oppressors language and it's embarrassing
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 жыл бұрын
God bless Africa and African people, we are the cheap prostitute of colonialism and accept it gladly.
@curocurovic6675
@curocurovic6675 2 жыл бұрын
"n who can perfectly speak the oppressors language " europeans that created the nation are the oppressors and west africans that came to enjoy the well being created from european men are the oppressed soon to be seen in Sweden
@mateot215
@mateot215 2 жыл бұрын
@@curocurovic6675 hey pal, you just blow in from stupid town?
@wrestlinganime4life288
@wrestlinganime4life288 Жыл бұрын
Basically they advocate for a colorblind society without retribution of wealth?
@yenziwemotha3049
@yenziwemotha3049 Жыл бұрын
@@wrestlinganime4life288 pretty much. That's the reason for the whole rainbow nation rhetoric
@micheleholley9730
@micheleholley9730 Жыл бұрын
My Dear amazing Vanilla Brother, this segment was FIRE. You unpacked so much. I love this segment, this is my second time listening, it is just that good.
@kommit-456
@kommit-456 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there Second thought, I’m a conservative (as of now) who wants to learn about socialism and I must say that your videos are very informative and I appreciate that have a nice day Second thought and second thought fans
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 2 жыл бұрын
A conservative named Commie Penguin? That's the internet for you. Edit: Does anyone know if the video creator is ACTUALLY a Socialist or just a Social Democrat? In America, that becomes interchangeable because they don't nuance worth a damn.
@SgtLion
@SgtLion 2 жыл бұрын
Respect for branching out and learning about things outside yer own alignment. Given the actual class consciousness exhibited by the creator, I think we can say relatively certainly that they are some form of socialist.
@TheMrQuepe
@TheMrQuepe 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeistInTheMachine he's a marxist-leninist
@just_some_random_guy3133
@just_some_random_guy3133 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanmurphy5874 full on communist, it is quite visible is his podcast
@kmtgoddess7793
@kmtgoddess7793 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best ways to think of capitalism vs communism is would u rather work 8hrs for a wage u may be able to live on and use 90 percent of it to pay bills. Or would u rather work 15hrs a week in a job or jobs you like and have free access to everything in the community. This includes free healthcare housing education child services elderly services
@nastynate534
@nastynate534 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, we don't perfectly mesh on every subject, but your work is so clever, and so in-depth, incredibley well organized, orated and with such integrity.... keep up the awesome work! Thank you. P.S.- the new editing is fun.
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoy it
@kholeka8475
@kholeka8475 2 жыл бұрын
@@SecondThought Nelson Mandela got caught and send to prison, because the CIA told the South African Government where he was hiding.
@the34zydc.64
@the34zydc.64 2 жыл бұрын
When I see idiots like Stephen Crowder trying to trash-talk MLK when MLK said that rioting is the voice of the unheard, there's one thing that comes to mind that is especially troubling - When folks hear what MLK was actually about and learn of his real legacy, it poses the real danger that folks will reject it. My hope is that American conservatism, exceptionalism, and white supremacy hasn't poisoned our people against a vision of America that is fundamentally more egalitarian.
@zoegoode4388
@zoegoode4388 Жыл бұрын
i discovered this channel yesterday and have probably watched in total 5-6 videos. i can safely say i've learned more from these videos than i've learned in any of my social studies/ history classes at school.
@HercuLync
@HercuLync Жыл бұрын
If you had learned more in Social Studies/History you would be a lot less impressed with the historical accounts of his extremely bias videos.
@anabang1251
@anabang1251 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you would have paid attention in school if it was on video as well…
@general_o1
@general_o1 Жыл бұрын
@@HercuLync “extremely biased”? is that not what the american education system embodies in a whole ?
@HercuLync
@HercuLync Жыл бұрын
@@general_o1 No. That's view of liars trying to pretend the worst are the norm.
@SwiftJustice
@SwiftJustice Жыл бұрын
​@@HercuLyncKeep licking those capitalist boots
@theaccountable
@theaccountable 2 жыл бұрын
Black liberation is THE PEOPLES liberation. You restore society from the bottom up. From now on it's Black Future Month ✊🏽
@ah_libra
@ah_libra 2 жыл бұрын
One thing the racists and greedy corporatists don't understand is that "a house divided amongst itself cannot stand." If the bottom of the hierarchy is ailing, it's going to reach the "top" of the hierarchy eventually.
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ah_libra A rising tide does not life all boats if the boats were not made equally.
@ah_libra
@ah_libra 2 жыл бұрын
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo Facts!!! And knowing America's history, we all know many "boats" were sabotaged and and intentionally set up to "sink."
@bruhinator5756
@bruhinator5756 2 жыл бұрын
@@ah_libra And then we get to start all over. So much for “progress”.
@Nai-qk4vp
@Nai-qk4vp 2 жыл бұрын
@@ah_libra That's the thing about pyramids. You take the top piece off, nothing happens, you take a bottom piece and it all comes down. So you keeo the bottom of the pyramid, afraid, fed and distracted enough so they will not gang up on you and rip your nuts off.
@TMKing_MS
@TMKing_MS 2 жыл бұрын
As for followers of your channel, I personally call us "Second Thots"
@Matthew.E.Kelly.
@Matthew.E.Kelly. 2 жыл бұрын
I got called a Republican 🤣 & a white supremacist when I wrote about the Poor People's Campaign. Because apparently MLK was, uh... [Checks notes] concerned with the rights of black Americans exclusively [checks notes again]... & When I say he spoke of equal rights for all the working class in general, I'm "using MLK's legacy as a shield." Yeah. That's turbocharged radlib philosophy for you.
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 жыл бұрын
Because class reductionism is stupid. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
@Matthew.E.Kelly.
@Matthew.E.Kelly. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo"Inclusion of class" in an analysis is not "reduction to class" in an analysis. Also if merely mentioning that the Poor People's Campaign existed is "class reductionism", what exactly do you call... Having created it? Because that's what Dr. King did. I think you need to watch the video you're commenting on a second time.
@CHMernerner
@CHMernerner 2 жыл бұрын
Radlibs! The hope of status quo!
@bigbillhaywood1415
@bigbillhaywood1415 2 жыл бұрын
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo class is more important than anything else right now. The working class is exploited bc they're working class. Until the working class has power, we'll be stuck spinning our wheels. We've gotten all the concessions were going to get the way society is structured. Focusing on racial identity at this point does bring awareness but all we get now is platitudes. Focusing on class consciousness no matter the racial identity is the way to go.
@TechMik3LP
@TechMik3LP 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigbillhaywood1415 Yes the working class has to stick together to bridge the divide and also aknowledge intersectionality and the different needs and historical discrimination of certain parts of the working class
@JackHagar
@JackHagar 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a white and as I get older, I find I’m becoming more liberal. I used to be a major advocate for capitalism and believed those who didn’t do well under it simply weren’t working hard enough, but learning about things like this where critics of capitalism are being silenced just makes me realize how mislead of I’ve been this whole time.
@sogghartha
@sogghartha Жыл бұрын
hate to break it to you, but liberal means pro-capitalist. liberal is not the left. they are right wing. you know, pelosi, obama, clinton, those people.
@Diovanlestat
@Diovanlestat Жыл бұрын
@@sogghartha Think much depends on the country you come from. All them people are Americans. But Liberal thought is older than America and rooted in Europe and the UK. The first Liberal party was created in the UK and were noted for giving more people the vote and creating many laws to help workers and the poor. Even now in Britian the Liberals are seen as social democrats, centre left not right. American political parties and definitions are very different to how they are used in Europe and the UK.
@bpoydras1503
@bpoydras1503 Жыл бұрын
I am a long time black Conservative/Republican and think of how I feel, after having come to this same conclusion as you. The sellout I must be. 🤦🏾‍♂️
@PilzFarm
@PilzFarm Жыл бұрын
@@sogghartha you are confusing Liberal with liberal my dude. A liberal is not conservative, they are about liberties and for most people that means for everyone. Capital L Liberals are about freemdom from any regulation which targets the injustice and therefore thretening their status quo.
@garyfookins9968
@garyfookins9968 Жыл бұрын
@@bpoydras1503 be kind to yourself, we were all victims of psychological abuse at the hands of the capitalist regime. Now we can work together to change things and complete MLK's and other's plan for true justice.
@SindyxLotus
@SindyxLotus 2 жыл бұрын
I like thought bubbles. We're Second's little thought bubbles trying to change hearts and minds. Yours is the first video I share.
@whyphy2213
@whyphy2213 2 жыл бұрын
I learned alot more about black history from listening to Akala songs, Dead Prez songs and Immortal Technique songs. They are more than what schools teach us. Second Thoughts always make good videos
@kmtgoddess7793
@kmtgoddess7793 2 жыл бұрын
Nas i can 3rd verse is really good too
@yangasidziya3245
@yangasidziya3245 Жыл бұрын
@@kmtgoddess7793 That 3rd verse went over our heads when we are kids, but educated us alot as teens
@thomascrownrg
@thomascrownrg 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent!! Thank you for spreading more truth. No more Ignoring..No more Rewriting..No more Lies! Justice has been blind long enough.
@philv2529
@philv2529 Жыл бұрын
Capitalism bad. Socialism good. Me want Socialism. Please make more commie propaganda youtube videos because I really like your objective unbiased take on economics.
@terejosh13
@terejosh13 Жыл бұрын
ohh Phil how is your fragility and privilege showing all at once such a over achiever
@philv2529
@philv2529 Жыл бұрын
@@terejosh13 privilege? I barely make minimum wage.
@abattledroid7649
@abattledroid7649 Жыл бұрын
Every argument is "biased" in some way; yes, even yours.
@philv2529
@philv2529 Жыл бұрын
@@abattledroid7649 This video is clearly pro-socialist/ anti-capitalist propaganda. Fox News is less obvious.
@billsmith7673
@billsmith7673 7 ай бұрын
@@philv2529Same here. They can eff off with that privilege stuff.
@AustinWestbro
@AustinWestbro 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video. In school I remember explicitly being taught MLK good, Black Panthers bad.
@TheLittlebut
@TheLittlebut 2 жыл бұрын
It also somewhat makes me sad that even if we upgrade and improve our textbooks to be more up-to-date, plenty of public schools across the US either are unable to or are unwilling to update their textbooks. I remember my textbooks in high school being ones from the 70-80s, so I can clearly see where the disconnect come from older teachings vs what I’ve been learning in Uni and on social media. It shouldn’t be surprising that defunding the education department really disappoints younger generations (as a baby millennial/old genz; 1997) by neglecting to stay relevant.
@blue_wolfproductions12
@blue_wolfproductions12 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Second Thought. Got a question for you. Do you think you can make a video on how the idea of American Exceptionalism formed? That’s be great.
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’ve already done one, but I could be misremembering. I know I’ve got a Deprogram episode on the subject.
@blue_wolfproductions12
@blue_wolfproductions12 2 жыл бұрын
@@SecondThought Do you think you could do a video on Reform vs Revolution? I don't think you've done that yet.
@The_Story_Of_Us
@The_Story_Of_Us 2 жыл бұрын
The only comfort I find in all this is that history cannot be overwritten. Nothing can ever erase what heroes like MLK said, they can only be shouted over and lied about.
@18booma
@18booma 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to have another South African revolutionary for the next video about whitewashing, I would recommend Steve Biko. He has major similarities to MLK like media pivoting away from his socialist pov to only focus on his anti-racism, and the fact that he was murdered by the state. He was also active closer to the time that MLK was around, and talks a little bit about the American Civil Rights movement in a few bits of writing.
@ronoc9
@ronoc9 2 жыл бұрын
"Second Thoughtys" Call us Second Thots and you've got a deal.
@dirtychivo
@dirtychivo 2 жыл бұрын
Mlk and Muhammad Ali are the best examples of this. Eeeeeveryone loves them now. If they were alive today…not so much
@Prauwlet213
@Prauwlet213 2 жыл бұрын
they were both socialist, so i think i love them even more
@ChurchillGeoff
@ChurchillGeoff Жыл бұрын
Whitewashing Reagan has been a project all on its own, as a foreigner Americans would be horrified to see how he was depicted in British comedy, Spitting Image comes to mind
@readmarx420
@readmarx420 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you for making all these videos, youre shining a light on misinformation, and youre making the world a better place
@MoonatikYT
@MoonatikYT 2 жыл бұрын
What is now happening to Dr. King's legacy has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed groups fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their words with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the radical platform of its substance, blunting its radical edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the American bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the BLM movement concur in this doctoring of MLK. They omit, obscure, or distort the radical side of this theory, its radical soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie. All the liberal and conservative ideologues are extolling "the pacifistic virtues of Dr. King" (don't laugh!). And more and more frequently American bourgeois pundits, only yesteryear specialists in the annihilation of MLK, are speaking of the “American hero” MLK, who, they claim, guided the negro masses away from active resistance and towards a civil maintenance of social peace! (for the original version of this text read state and revolution by vladimir lenin)
@joshbigz8440
@joshbigz8440 2 жыл бұрын
I have similar thoughts when people talk about Gandhi and the British Empire. If it was not for WWII and the ongoing De-Nazification of the world than Britain would still be in control.
@gloriaf6971
@gloriaf6971 Жыл бұрын
Nothing irks me more than to hear racist Republicans quote MLK 's "content of their character " statement.
@Tra982
@Tra982 6 ай бұрын
Democrats are the real racists who btw founded and backed the kkk and voted against every civil rights act of legislation
@solarsatan9000
@solarsatan9000 2 жыл бұрын
interesting fact: the usa put black history month on february's to intersect with the UK's lgbt history month to try and cause anger between the two groups
@ahnafj416
@ahnafj416 2 жыл бұрын
It's like the meme back in summer of 2020: Sweaty guy choosing between A) Black flag (BLM) B) Rainbow flag (LGBT)
@georgekostaras
@georgekostaras 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s true then I have zero surprise
@l.k.9666
@l.k.9666 2 жыл бұрын
No it didn't. BHM month began from Negro History Week, which was started by Black educator Carter G. Woodson in 1926. It was done the second week of February, as a way to celebrate Black history. That time was picked because it coincided with the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln. It became observed by the US as BHM in the 70s. LGBT History Month didn't exist until the 90s or 00s, depending on where you live, and is only observed in February in the UK because of the fall of Section 28. Where did you even get that from?
@patrickkenneally3016
@patrickkenneally3016 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what MLK would really say and think about modern day America. I can imagine it wouldn’t be very positive.
@joeyginise6051
@joeyginise6051 2 жыл бұрын
No, it really wouldn't. He would probably point fingers at everybody, regardless of race.
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 2 жыл бұрын
Is think I saw a cartton where mlk came to the modern day and was happy and stuff
@patrickkenneally3016
@patrickkenneally3016 2 жыл бұрын
@@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 I think it was that one episode of The Boondocks.
@LogicGated
@LogicGated 2 жыл бұрын
Tell them every year, people need to hear this.
@jonahholdsworth5079
@jonahholdsworth5079 Жыл бұрын
Im a south african and I feel like ive learned more about mandela in this video then 12 years of school ever taught me
@chulumancoditala4933
@chulumancoditala4933 6 ай бұрын
sounds like a you problem.
@fatalalchemy602
@fatalalchemy602 2 жыл бұрын
I have a history degree, and the historiography of all time periods and events will be different based on the historian analyzing the evidence. Historians come to different conclusions and use different parts of the evidence to try to prove their theories correct. This isn't necessarily a bad thing when you want to focus on certain aspects of a subject. However, purposely denying facts and broad swathes of information in order to prove a theory correct is never good and shouldn't be taken seriously
@connorjacobs1148
@connorjacobs1148 2 жыл бұрын
This KZbin channel is awesome and has really opened my eyes and helped me change politically so thank you for that. I used to be ultra conservative or even worse than. Just to get to the point I’m really happy I found the correct side to be on and change my ways.
@jager8148
@jager8148 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice :). Politics are so difficult right now becasue neither side cares about you, its just which cares about you a tiny bit more.
@zunfix1194
@zunfix1194 Жыл бұрын
I was the same way when i was young, I considered myself center-right but after graduating high school and entering the working environment I started questioning things then i discovered second thought he really opened my eyes and i learned so much in such a sort amount of time. I realized everything i was taught was a lie, capitalism is an evil and corrupt system and im glad this channel was able to change my politically views
@rickb3650
@rickb3650 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of more direct specifics. Reagan's open racism was the direct source of his infamous "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, it left me" quotation from 1962. He was running for Governor of CA and this was his assurance (dog whistle) to other racists that they had a friend in Sacramento. MLK was literally declared "The most hated man in America" by multiple publications in the '60s. The Black Panthers were hunted down and assassinated by police in multiple states. Arizona is the only state to give up a Super Bowl rather than institute a MLK day. The Hippies were only part of the American movement to the left and were never more than a single digit minority of Americans.
@renealexander2703
@renealexander2703 2 жыл бұрын
Rick B what about Nixon's open racism? Democrats are racists too.
@rickb3650
@rickb3650 2 жыл бұрын
@@renealexander2703 They are. But one of the good things Kennedy and LBJ did was to force the party to pretend they aren't. But really what both parties are about is class. Keeping the power where it is, and more importantly, excluding the rest of us from taking it for ourselves.
@Dis_Dis
@Dis_Dis Жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I've seen someone unironically say that if MLK was alive today he would be a conservative. Bruh...
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