Secret Lair: The Godzilla Lands PROVES WOTC Thinks You're A Fool

[@jamescruz5637]

These lands should've been included as the basic land for every Ikoria pack.

[@adriancarlo4303]

Yeah, at least non foils.

[@josephdickson6572]

I said pretty much the same thing but I thought more like a 1 out of every 4 packs of the collector packs and 1 in a box of regular boxes.

[@burningbelow4424]

Naw godzilla is more special than that.

[@marvinnova1553]

Pro trick: you can watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching loads of movies recently.

[@daxtonjabari3088]

@Marvin Nova Yup, been watching on flixzone} for since december myself :D

[@DIYivan04]

I don’t even play Magic I’m just here for the salt

[@MageSkeleton]

It's actually an amazing game and really you just have to get passed the whole "WoTC hates you" thing and just avoid Elk i mean Standard. I mainly play commander and it's really fun.

[@The_Nerd_King]

@@MageSkeleton same here Edh is where its at! Modern is also fun for a 60 card format

[@666voyager666]

I'll stick to my memories of Mercadian Masques..…miss those daysd....

[@radip]

I started when invasion came out. My first competitive deck at that time was sleigh burn with ball lightning and cursed scrolls. Good old days

[@DeeJaysWord]

The real fool would be the person who doesn’t know what the contraction “you’re”means. 🤣

[@jagsdomain203]

Godzilla is the best fan base ever. You can make all the fam films you want. Hail Godzilla

[@billyjoejenkins2081]

Jerry Glaze Hail to the king baby!

[@josuanachname1914]

@@billyjoejenkins2081 This is what old farts say! Now I just have to find that disc somewhere.... Totally hooked!

[@jagsdomain203]

@@channeling764 good for you.

[@burningbelow4424]

I got this set solely because they are Godzilla. My friends will love this gift.

[@Lebrachlxxxvii]

Honestly Jeremy, I unsubbed from the quartering because it had nothing on it I cared about (I'm over the culture wars), but this, this is what I like. Long time fan since you were known as MTG headquarters. Keep putting pressure on WOTC for us honest players, because you're just about the only person in the community who is doing so. God bless.

[@TrianglePants]

DesolatorMagic?

[@XiLock_Alotx]

Definitely give DesolatorMagic a watch. Dude is wild. Jeremy is without a doubt old school and deserving as well tho!

[@TheLuminousCleric]

@@XiLock_Alotx DesolatorMagic is sooooo cringy. I had stop watching him because he is complaining and whining all the time.

[@hiddenleaf414]

Yea the culture wars is just bs now. You’ve got SJW complaining over the smallest things and conservatives who know nothing about the constitution yelling “FrEe SpEecH!”. It’s all just old.

[@sagethegreat4680]

There is a Godzilla movie supposed to be coming out so I feel Hasbro got the license to make some toys and they made ikoria itself as a tie in set

[@BboyTurok1990]

Yeah Godzilla vs Kong

[@MadMattInc1]

Funny that. It's been held back to next year.

[@Thestar17x]

Nah the Japanese team came to wizards about meeting with toho

[@nicksanders1225]

I'll be honest, this one doesnt bother me. I dont need basic lands, and if you want them you can have them. I'm not buying them, and that's okay. This product is the epitome of "it isnt for you". The Fetch Land thing is bullshit, I think we can all agree.

[@mononokemar]

What are fetch lands? I just started Magic so not sure what those are

[@thatoneguyshawn]

"but you're also getting the display cases and the industrial sized box" -Wizards of the Coast guy, probably

[@RealFeelsTrip]

To be accurate, that $350+ price point is people price gouging on the secondary market. The Secret Lair Ultimate edition IS too expensive, but it costs game stores less than a Collector Booster box, so they could be charging like $170 for it and still making a profit.

[@ricklawrence2515]

That is still an absolutely absurd price for it. Should have been $40

[@scottishmaninblue2]

Problem is WotC removed the MSRP price. SO the fetch lands are more than they anticipated because the price has been hiked from distribution onwards. However in saying that a member of WotC said in an interview on Tolarian that they expected the price to be roughly the same as Commander Anthology, which by all accounts is still a heck a lot more than $30 so your point still stands.

[@guitarguy6561]

Welcome back Jeremy! Wizards do think we are dumb and they will continue to do things like this as there will always be people that will buy this. The lowest in the video was 350 bucks and to get a set of them all will cost and eye watering 1,400 dollars! like WTF! Keep the content coming buddy!

[@Tyrius8]

The right skin color on package. Lmfao, I missed you Jeremy.

[@kingdomrhye1180]

Adam Howard this is what we need because no one else is gonna say it haha

[@netanelaker4437]

@@kingdomrhye1180 literally every other Magic KZbinr says that... No need to listen to Jeremy

[@WIGutie]

@@netanelaker4437 Link them.

[@Wolfphototech]

I'm excited for Godzilla cards . But very limited cards with jacked up prices , piss me off .

[@joshuacharles7769]

That didn't take long lmaooo

[@greenthunder8633]

This is honeslty the best secret lair, it's literally a product you buy if you want them as their reprints of something every has access, it's not a card with a inherit value it's literally for pimping out your decks

[@screwthenet]

IF WOTC offered saucy ULTRA SECRET ADULT SWIM sets, where Godzilla was fucking mothra...I would be throwing my money at them.

[@screwthenet]

BUt as I have said for years...R.I.P. entertainment across the board. Notal ottap hysical merch going forward, let alone movies and film sets being used due to corona chan. >,;,

[@trailguidealex5010]

Wow! This game has not changed. Let me guess red rush, artifacts, and stall are still the top decks.

[@mantislazuli]

Nope, it's companions, companions, companions everywhere. Even in Vintage, if you do not play Companion, you're making a mistake.

[@Arghantyl]

@@mantislazuli Really vintage too ? I already knew than compagnions were a mistake but does it really waste Vintage and modern ?

[@rokmare]

This is going to be a boring set with big creatures rush and trample and little to no removal because wizards have long since removed answers to mechanics within a set so they can sell more cards over actual game balance.

[@trailguidealex5010]

@@mantislazuli looked them up. They literally ripped off hearthstone with cards like Baku and Gen. And those are some of the best decks in hearthstone history

[@demonguitarist93]

I would be more inclined to buy more secret lairs if my theros God secret lair had even been shipped yet.

[@glitchking666]

If the set of fetch lands were priced between $50 and $70 dollars ,a lot less people would have been complaining. And it would have sold out in minutes.

[@hypter8425]

It was pointed out that he came back at the "Perhaps greediest time" in MTG history. Little did they know.

[@dshumway0724]

I’d be satisfied with them shipping the previous secret lair before trying to sell me another. Still no Theros Stargazing

[@brandonbrockitt1654]

Same, I love being told I have to wait even longer to get the cards I paid 160$ for.

[@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING]

Yep. I paid for the my drop 15 min after it began and should have been in the first batch sent out. But nope. Got the email saying it would be end of May maybe into June before I get them.

[@tntmage7-250]

I feel ya... my poor kruphix

[@cnlbenmc]

Well damn, never expected to see another video from this channel again!

[@sludrick]

So glad you are back Jeremy

[@therealslimwhitie]

To quote a great comment I saw on this subject " you are collecting beanie babies now "

[@endlessorbaggins8223]

I never get into channel like this that are mostly just rambling, being salty, negative, etc. However, on this particular video I can get behind your reaction. With this Ultimate Fetches Cash Grab, I felt like WotC was saying to us: "As a way to thank you for your commitment and loyalty to our game over the years, we give you.... a big middle finger!"

[@npcblacksmith5739]

ANY....I repeat ANY full art land looks cool.

[@Buckeye2013]

Good to have you back!

[@John-mz4ql]

Thanks for the heads up, Jeremy.

[@KevanWalter]

I had a collector box ordered from my LGS but asked to cancel when I saw this shit a few days ago. I'm completely done with MTG after seeing WOTC charge over 300 bucks for 5 lands. I could slightly get behind the collector boxes because the cards were awesome and you actually got a couple hundred of em in a box. I'm done until they stop sniffing farts.

[@ikejohnson5494]

I mean, I still think it’s scummy, but I think fetchland box being more expensive is justified due to the card rarity. Though them printing fetch lands at all in a non set is milking the secondary market.

[@Zimzilla99]

As a Godzilla fan I’m excited for this. But as a consumer I gotta temper that from what I’m seeing which sucks a ton

[@Vaphoron]

Glad you're back.

[@ignskeletons]

I bought just x1 of these for the sole purpose of reselling. Paid $30 + $10 shipping and now they're on TCGPlayer for $75 so i made a tiny bit of profit. I don't feel bad because it's literally just lands cards and not necessary to play and enjoy the game.

[@shandomassey8634]

While you were gone there was a MASSIVE stock crash for Hasbro in q4 last year, and this is what came because of it. Hasbro pulled out all the stops. Really glad to see Unsleeved back.

[@duellegend71]

Jeremy 4 days ago - wizards and I are getting along great and I’m so thankful Jeremy now - WiZaRdS tHiNkS yOu’Re AlL dUmB.

[@Arankchess112]

On their next secret lair, WOTC will miraculously listen to Jeremy and release the Ultimate Power Secret Lair with Alt art P9 and sell it for $30. And, they'll have a statement poohpoohing the RL and blame Jeremy for somehow "forcing their hands".

[@GhostbustersXX13]

By the time I get this Notification, its gone, all the sales for the Godzilla secret lair are gone..... THANKS, KZbin! Also, Jeremy great video, personally, I do try to watch your videos as soon as I can. BUT, man I wish I got the chance to order those cards, I just collect the Land Cards for the Art nowadays, but this sucks.

[@Aaron-kq5kk]

GhostbustersXX13 they are not on sale yet.

[@PawzBrownMTG]

With the fetches we should at least get a kiss after that romping of a price for 5 cards. LMAO

[@kaibe5241]

I don't think it's that bad tbh. They're beautiful art pieces, their a limited release, they'll be worth a pretty penny in years to come.

[@VashStarwind]

*They're

[@xion1305]

happy to see you doing some magic stuff again. A let's play of MTG Arena? Is it possible? :)

[@MageSkeleton]

When Urza came out in Modern Horizons, i had thought that WoTC had broken the game to where every format will then get dominated by Urza without any other competition. Turns out for all the advantages Urza has he's not "that" overpowered. Still very powerful if you get everything you need but not tier 1 or tier 0 dominating. Ikoria, if you can believe this, is the first time thier releasing legendary creatures that are potentially more powerful than what Krikk was supposed to be. I do like the idea of the Godzilla lands, and i'm not going to be buying any. But yes, they released the "fetch" lands for the LGS to sell and YES they have an excuse. It was sabotage from the beginning. WoTC is not blind to what they're making, and this is no accident. They will keep pushing the power level of their cards and now they can confidiently say to all those who wanted them to help the LGS "it was a bad idea" and now we have the "secondary market" problem and they will just blame us and while i disagree with their "Secret Lair" system if they would make the Secret Lair available over the period of a week it would be amazing. But they are practicing "Artificial scarcity" by only allowing 24 hours to purchase any particular product.

[@AdmiralVortex]

I am okay with basics for 30. I am not okay with them being sold next to fetches for 400

[@NATESUCKSATGAMING]

15 packs of the same cards for one person. What the heck. Scalpers here we go. It should be 1 or 2 max.

[@Aaron-kq5kk]

NATESUCKSATGAMING well these are basic lands and many people run the same printing of every basic land in their decks, so it would be reasonable to assume that one person is using all 15.

[@owlsayssouth]

15 basic lands is possibly not enough for a mono-colored deck, so if anything they should be a higher limit. let alone if you want them for Commander (34+ lands needed minimum, and in a mono colored deck most of that would need to be basics). but if you really wanted that, if you got 15 of each, you could trade some of your less used colors to get some more of the colors you need.

[@indrafides2648]

Guess who is gonna get high quality images and making high quality proxies for under 8 bucks

[@gallodorogaming9964]

Actually a great idea and no ones gonna care cause its just basics

[@xion1305]

ONLY SEEN ONE AD and this vid on the subject + breezed thru an article to see the monster cards to be released so don't knock me too hard if I make a silly point here. Anyways sure I call BS too on the greed portion but having Gojira as a monster in Magic The Gathering sounds epic! But yeah the land art special edition cards are nonsense cash grabs. What will be interesting is to see is Gojiras mana cost and mana type for the costs- water and fire?

[@SamLopeZz]

I am actually ok with basic lands. That is what I thought the secret lair was going to be, a series of collectible cards and not necessarily playables or staples.... When they decided to print fetches i get it that they're trying to give players access to formats like modern that are prohibitively expensive mostly due to those cards, but they messed up big time, showed that they're not just trying to make an enjoyable collection product, and in the end a few more fetch lands in the market will not make a single dent on the secondary market price. Also the secret lairs should always been limited to 1 per customer, and distribution should be done through the local stores, where they'd distribute it to them for pennies on the dollar allowing them some much needed profit and making everyone happy. I still don't think WOTC has realized that without the game stores they will eventually just become an average game like hearthstone. If MTG is still going strong after 25 years it was all about the local stores,it was all about the gathering part of magic. You're killing it wizards, specially at a much needed time of this global economic crisis

[@exeledusprince9165]

I know these lands are just aesthetic and entirely optional but still, I dont know how anyone can compete in this game, its hilariously overpriced and expensive to build even 1 competent deck. This is why I love the challenger decks so much, and I hope they never discontinue them.

[@MizantropMan]

The more I see stuff like this happen, the more glad I am that I got completely clean of cardboard crack over a year ago. Sadly, my bff, whom I dragged into the game back when we were both kids in middle school, is still neck-deep in it and it's been bleeding him white.

[@beno3686]

Love the meme war veteran hat

[@sdoren_9074]

Dude, you picked a hell of a time to get back into the game...

[@atraxian5881]

30$ for 5 basic lands... That will be printed and shipped God knows when... And people are still going to buy them. Then, 5 fetch lands (the most requested on the market), printed with artificial scarcity and not on demand, 360$+ from retailers... Just because... Fetchlands and FU customers!

[@nurgalrot1589]

they should be in the Collector pack but for 27 GBP I did buy them as I'm hoping to get a planeswalker in my box if they still do them

[@thebigbadpinkman]

Secret lair is usually a fair and worthwhile product. The fetchlands shit is not really a secret lair product and It's against everything that the product started as and should continue to be.Wizards deserves every amount of criticism they are getting for the fetch land product, but shitting on secret lair for not being in the LGS is not a valid complaint. The amount of other products that the LGS gets is more than enough for them.

[@RL_22]

But.. with the fetchlands you get that super-di-duper-orgasmically-awesome box!! LMAO.

[@paranidherc]

Never played magic. Is MTG Arena worth checking out as a free2play game?

[@jagoob]

I play f2p. You can grind up enough to make a decent deck pretty fast but your best off using all your gold to do drafts and use the gems to get mastery passed to get a steady stream of rewards.

[@koljar1526]

The way they calculate is easy: Printing: 1$ Packaging: 2$ Offsetting the Cost of Losing 50% of their Standard player base: 345$. Its the same as Games Workshop did back then with the age of Sigmar Releases: increase the Price to offset the costs of r&d to a shrinking customer base. What a shame for that to happen to a once great game. But i guess better Bankrupt than Bigot

[@dunderminnet]

5 basic lands for $30? What the heck.

[@owlsayssouth]

best art for basic lands ever, but the video is more discussing how it shows Wizard has been lying about "not accounting for the secondary market" as the fetch lands are $360 for the same number of lands.

[@sheikzer0]

Well it's not as if Basic Lands were a rare ressource, those are clearly only for fans that want to bling out their deck, if you don't want them, don't buy them, those are not fetchland reprints or essentials like that that they priced too high, it's litterally just a fancy land set for people who want godzilla in their decks

[@mononokemar]

Ughhh I want these but they’re being sold for $22+ singles and the box it’s $120+. Maybe I made a mistake getting into MTG

[@burningbelow4424]

Atbthe end of the day it all comes down to how bad the person buying the set wants them. My friend and I for 1 are big fans of both godzilla and magic. To me it's worth it as a gift for him. Because I know he will appreciate it and not care about what the market says about the value, and neither will I.

[@smeqwack7337]

why not re-release the guru lands as a secret drop, that be some good shit to buy

[@jettjedi73]

wow.. this is insane. WOTC has gotten completely out of hand.. LOL!! That much money for lands????

[@Telendil]

But Wizard doesn`t have to go to the scondary market to ramp up the price. That argument is just stupid. 5 basic lands with alternate art should be cheaper than any 5 rare lands with alternate art. Wizard prices rares higher than comons since the start of the game. Thats why you get 1 rare 3 uncommons and a bunch of commons in a booster and not just random cards with random rarities.

[@austinkunz739]

I can get Pringles for only a couple bucks. Don't need to spend $30 for 5

[@TheFilthyCasual]

I just want my theros stargazing from feburary. still not shipped.

[@solivagant2918]

MtG has jumped the shark.

[@mottzilla2]

I want them not gonna lie, but I refuse to support this. There should be 20 of each land in it.

[@kaibe5241]

$5 each. lmfao. Dude, on the secondary market here, it's already $30/piece.

[@Matthew-by2xx]

I mean, you could always not buy them. I'd say the fetch land secret lair is FAR worse than the basic lands. At least you can just buy basic lands cheap.

[@lanesteele240]

This should have been 10 each. Foils could be offered for 29.99 for 5

[@brianlinden3042]

I feel a lot of the anger at this product is misplaced. WotC isn't charging $300 for the fetchland Secret Lair. Local (and not-so-local, like Card Kingdom etc.) game stores are charging $300 for the fetchland Secret Lair. Yes, it's annoying that they refuse to reprint fetchlands in any meaningful way, but this product has never been an attempt to bring more fetchlands into the market. It's an attempt to help out struggling local game stores. Perhaps making it fetchlands when they should have known there was such a massive movement within the community to have them reprinted is a little tone deaf, but if you're trying to make a product that's exclusive to local game stores, which you know will make those stores a lot of money, what better to put in it than the most sought after non-power nine cards in the entire game? The only complaint I have about the product is that they shouldn't have limited it to 10; keep it LGS exclusive, but let those LGS' order as many as they want. Still, LGSes needed a bone thrown their way, and I frankly can't blame Wizards for trying to throw one. Meanwhile, ALL the anger at the Godzilla Lands Secret Lair is misplaced. Frankly, as a Godzilla fan who plays Magic, I feel this is the best product they've released in years.

[@avatar2xl]

You probably get a few of the godzila alternate art cards in it

[@LifeLongMETALHead83]

$6 per land for full art foils is cheap!

[@jaskiniamestwa]

Don’t worry: Standard’s already broken by this set...

[@ximkai8794]

While i love it, mutate feels like a super lazy deck building concept. They dont really work as well with non mutate spells and they are all creatures. So... just pick 3 colors you like and jam any card that has the word mutate into your deck. Done!

[@adolphus28]

WoTC: 10 max Secret lair fetchlands to ea LGS (if you're lucky) BUT up to 15 EACH person for the godzilla basics. Go FUDGING FIGURE.....

[@occasj]

Should have come back during the theros stargazing series. Personally thought that was the best secret lair.

[@dragonmares59110]

From where i live people now simply get counterfeit cards and everyone accept it. It is not possible to get any new player into the game with the absurd pricing of cards. They are freaking paper cards, they should not cost more than a few cents.

[@thrash208]

5 foil full art lands for 30$ 30/5=6. So each land is $6 it's not uncommon for a foil full art lands for 5$ is it worth the extra 1$ each? When including the mystery card in the pack? It's honestly not that bad of a lair. The fetch is absolutely Abysmal though

[@deinemam7115]

??? its just what lairs should be, you dont need it but cool artwork. if someone wants it he can buy it, if dont dont

[@GizmoMcs]

I don't see any problem with these, you don't NEED these cards to play mtg it's just cosmetic.. if you buy them its on you.

[@thuban6371]

that excuse is part of the problem.

[@lucatraverso3495]

That's gambling. By buying this you are betting that a Godzilla fanatic will give you 360.000$ for this in 2040 because there are no unopened copies in the world I wouldn't recommend it

[@darkwyngraym]

also, you can barely even see godzilla on some of those lands.

[@rokmare]

I personally think that Godzilla dont belong in magic and serious another planes covering the planeswalker Vivien it's like they are pushing a agenda or something.

[@BlattGaming]

Rok mare they’ve been pushing an agenda for years now.

[@notreallyhere67]

Comment for the 1/1 Engagement Goblins.

[@RichieDubbz]

What happens if they acknowledged the secondary market?

[@thuban6371]

They are feeding the secondary market. After all one person makes like 50 identities and steals from everyone.

[@XendlessXbreakX]

All of the secret lair stuff I got isn't even that expensive though really.

[@MrDrokkul]

Technically every new thing that comes out is the greediest time in MTG since they keep pushing the limit each time.

[@Screamingmanta]

Aren't these just collectibles? Can someone explain the problem to me? I'm genuinely curious.

[@endlessorbaggins8223]

Erhart... The point of this video I would say is not much the Godzila basic lands, but the Ultimate fetchlands product. For the Godzila basic lands these are yes "collectibles" in that customers would want basic lands with art on them that will not be reprinted in the future. WotC knows that and makes a big profit on that for 5 pieces of cardboard. Also there is tons and tons of basic lands everywhere so anyone could easily passed on the Gozila basics. What is upsetting in this story is the fetches. These lands are in demand and like most of other rare lands should cost about 5-10$ each (at least this is what they costed when they were in Zendikar standard). But WotC intentionally holded back the reprints of fetch lands to a point that there are now a couple selling 50$+ on the secondary market. WotC knows that these lands are in demand and managed that their price gets inflated in order for these lands to become very good chase rares. When a MEANINGFUL reprint of these lands would have been welcomed to cool down their price tag, WOTC instead reprinted them in a very limited product (Ultimate Secret Lair) that they priced at about the secondary market value. Since the product is very limited, LGS increased the selling price to about 350$. Then because its too pricy and that more dumb people turned to buy the old versions, in face of the demand, the LGS increased the price of the old singles. So, now we have a scenario where these lands are even more unafordable for unjustified reasons. And this is all WotC fault with their greedy practice. They have become so greedy that they are now the equivalent of a store owner that would charge fees for going bathroom, get a napkin, get ketchup, serve its customers with disrespectful manners and tell you to fridgin off because you did not give him some tips before leaving. The kind of shop that you go once and you said to yourself "no way that I returned there".

[@hash-tag-aecg7087]

Not priced the same! If it's because of they're both lands, that's stupid. And if you're going to bitch about unequal quality, the masters sets should of been cheaper. Granted 50 would have been more appropriate for the fetches.

[@dan1701]

What about a video that tries to get wizards to fix the connection problems on arena?

[@thuban6371]

not connection problems for me.

[@refuse2lose1985]

Whoa! New Unsleeved Media vids!

[@sonnyandreotte5721]

Jokes on u, i am.

[@ebros2898]

Anybody who orders this suddenly realizes oh yeah I need 15+ basic lands in my deck and have to rely on RNG to draw the 1 Godzilla land. This product is trash, at least give like 10 or 15 copies of each so these are actually playable

[@Cindershadow]

the fetchlands are a carneys dream come true

[@owlsayssouth]

yeah, the Fetch Lands are stupid. the godzilla lands... fuck. at least they are, imo, the most wonderful looking full art foil lands i have ever seen wizards produce. the forest possibly gets beaten out by one of the other un forests... but the other 4 i think are solid kings of their respective basic land types. are they worth $6 each? well, the secondary market will probably sell them for more than that, significantly (the (lame) snow covered secret lair lands are going for more, and these lands are full art). but the idea of spending 300-450 on basic lands is dumb... but they are amazing. only question is, if they are going pull bullshit and print a more reasonable pack of non-foil versions of them after they get the money for the foils. eh.

[@jonc3519]

This doesn't seem as greedy to me because it doesn't effect the game itself. What's greedy is MTG's fundamental design and the fact that they print chase mythics and rares on purpose, while printing shitty cards on purpose. What's greedy is that they can't design an online platform without trying to milk every last dime out of people on the way. Like what if MTGA had a monthly subscription to access all of the cards? Why is this not possible or sustainable?

[@npcblacksmith5739]

Damn bro!

[@canaldecasta]

Great, i just knew about this past the 24h limit

[@jordanboggs2356]

Love your videos jeremy

[@djbioxic4023]

Glad I switched to Yugioh so long ago. I won't lie, I still like MtG, but this shit is just out of control.