SECRET WARS 8 Page Sells for 3 MILLION DOLLARS?

[@DTsGEEKSHOW]

Somebody overpaid! Not even a cover!

[@whitetiger_ccc]

Cowabunga Geminites 🤙 150k here we come 👊

[@emcee6915]

It’s an interesting question about the value of the artists work as well. Because his original art was worth that much money however it was because of the stories and character prestige.

[@rodristrongest]

Only Spider Man and Superman stuff can reach those prices. Insane.

[@ShadyDBZ4]

Batman said hi. 👋🏽

[@NinjaSquirrel30]

Amazing to see Spidey held in high regard by more of the world now. NBA players no doubt any athlete with that money and comicbook/superhero fan from childhood.

[@timdanner2596]

The first appearance of the black suit isn't tied. The second appearance is tied. ASM 252 was on the stands two or three weeks before the MTU and Spectacular issues were released.

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

You're nailing the thumbnails and titles, Swoll Mint. Leveling up your KZbin game!

[@davecironelibrarykid]

Yeah man -- Give MIKE ZECK some of that money!!

[@mikestukes801]

HOTTT DAAAAAMMMNNN 😎

[@shazam2323]

Also, I do have a couple versions of the first spidey NFT's lol

[@adilahmed5134]

Veve! Lets gooo

[@UncannyMike]

Its probably just some millionaire that hired a collectables consultant and was advised to bid on this page, that's becoming more common lately with the higher end pop culture collectables. Can't wait to see what the original art for Jim Lee's X-men 1 covers sell for

[@patrickeugenio4803]

It sold a few months ago. Rumored to be $2.8M

[@UncannyMike]

@@patrickeugenio4803 really? had no idea. I remember Jim talking about it on insta and then never heard anything since. 2.8 mil seems kinda low to be honest

[@patrickeugenio4803]

@@UncannyMike low now compared to this. But that was a record price already then.

[@UncannyMike]

@@patrickeugenio4803 i meant low since they were estimating it would go for over 5 million

[@bobdylan1968]

@@UncannyMike when you're talking those numbers ar auction, it's completely up in the air. It can literally depend on the mood in the room that day. It's a risk.

[@shazam2323]

I know if I had the money I'd be buying the first appearances of Shazam and Black Adam

[@NostalgiaExpress]

with original art, if its an awesome published page of a well known hero it will probably sell for a lot even if the artist isnt known.. if its a key moment or scene in the characters history...thats a one of a kind holy grail art page. they dont come up too often. 3 mill is crazy tho

[@fightthegoodfight52]

The looks on my face after hearing this news: 😳😲🙀😮🤑

[@martymacleod6824]

Luv your insights 🙏👊🙏

[@djoneforever]

It means,.......we all better hurry up and go buy Secret Wars #8

[@anubusx]

If i had that sort of money i would be so buying it!!!!

[@lunarmodule6419]

Outch! I'm totally oubided lol 😆

[@sattoriemei3210]

There's no tax benefits for collectibles, or anything that does not contribute to the US national GDP. Whether it's short term or long term, collectibles has a 28% capital gains tax, unlike stocks which drops to 0%, 15%, or 20% depending on tax bracket.

[@ShadyDBZ4]

I would never pay these ridiculous original art prices. If I did it would only be from Jim Lee or Todd McFarlane. Best way to get beautiful photos to frame are those artist portfolios. I just ordered Jim Lee’s Batman from In stock trades. I would lose my shit if they released one of his X-Men work from the 90’s.

[@Backtothehat]

Jim Lee and Todd McFarlane… but no Mike Zeck? You, Sir, are clearly insane.

[@ShadyDBZ4]

@@Backtothehat Not familiar with him. But art is like a women. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder bruh. I have a few other favorite artist I could listed, however Jim & Todd are at the top of “my” list all by themselves. 🤓

[@richurro20]

@@Backtothehat clearly you are for choosing mike zeck over the other two.

[@CasinoClams]

David Choe recently did an interview on Cartoonist Kayfabe where he talked about how it's just a handful of guys who buy up this original art when it hits the market. He mentions that there's new money in it too, but when you look at those artist editions and gallery editions, the same dozen or so names pop up in the credits as the sources for the original art.

[@jacobcastillo4422]

love seeing your channel grow!

[@treasurehunter777]

Secret Wars was a fantastic series. I have them all. Great video…thanks.

[@rs9003]

Someone asked Todd McFarland why he spent so much money on stuff like baseballs, Madonna's bustier and an outfit from A League of Their Own and he said its worth the free publicity. Outside of an actor who wore the suit buying the art I don't see anyone buying it as an investment at $3 million+

[@Majestic_Thunderbolt]

Comic book art is real art. 👍

[@Aviar4]

Daang big ballers in that auction

[@unrulysimian3897]

16,702 on the census for this book - 4277 in 9.8. Only one of these pages. Still - to me - it'd be over priced for 1/10th that amount. 👊🏻

[@jackimationstudios8736]

Hey gem just bought my first statue 1/10 Goro by iron studios, so excited for it to arrive!! 🎗🎗🎗

[@kevinconnor3187]

I think Id rather have a Mint Betty and Me 16. A lot cheaper too. This is insane.

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

These sales are getting wild. Wonder how long this can go before the market collapses? It also brings into question how creators should be compensated. Lots of money out there but it doesn't go to creators. Should there be a guild or something?

[@AnthonyOldhandGarcia]

Interesting that you say that the way i post look at is that no one knows in general nor the artist themselves that create the characters and the story telling can know what their work is worth and that's kind of a gamble where collectors think what's hot because of the pop culture as it's grown due to movies and merchandise, however where investors or collectors with deep pockets seem to manipulate the comicbook market by seeing what makes the most money as far as the rarity or a particular comicbook art that may have an appeal to it that can be valued to where the investors whom aren't collectors themselves see the comicbook market at a all time high just to get that comicbook that they may think it's the comicbook to get as suppose to regular collectors who can't afford it when it's out of their reach. And who knows as Gem mentioned these investors with lots of money are probably taking advantage of buying high end artworks for for tax purposes, and the way i look at it personally no comicbook shouldn't be worth and sold for millions of dollars when it's not that of serious book of course then again the rarity and condition of the book is what makes it special like 1939 Superman #1 which is understandable being a golden age comicbook. But for bronze age comicbook like Secret Wars #8 25 page panel of Spider-Man wearing the black suit of the origin story isn't worth millions in my opinion that's just ridiculous honestly. Manipulation i like to think so due to the comicbook community in the market raise the price because of some bronze age rare original art. Bleh. 🙄

[@woozie_ztfo9285]

You mean a union? Lol

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

@@woozie_ztfo9285 No, I mean a guild, like The Writer's Guild of America. There's a lot of legal red tape that prevents this due to antitrust laws from the 1940s. Some creators tried this in the 70s and 80s but the legal stuff was too tricky.

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

@@AnthonyOldhandGarcia Yeah. It just sucks that a lot of the community can't get their hands on stuff like this, with sentimental value, especially if it's just something in it for the money.

[@jasoncraft2135]

Most artists are allowed to keep the original art and do with it as they please. For example Todd Mcfarlane says he still has all his original art. I don't know whether this was the practice at the time this was drawn but if it was the artists sold it and already got his compensation his decision he should have held on to it.

[@toeknee1505]

I remember seeing Brett Booth at a comic book convention, and I asked him how much for his original print of the cover to Teen Titans issue 15 with the Joker on the cover. It was several hundred dollars. So to see the original art work for that Secret Wars Mike Zeck art of the black Spider-Man costume sell for THAT MUCH money, incredible! Thanks for sharing, Gem!!!

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

That’s an insane price for just one page, totally crazy.

[@the_flushjackson]

The majority of the iconic original comic art is owned by a very small handful of people. There are new players as older pieces owned outside of that sphere come to auction, but much is already owned by a small group. Want proof? Look at how artist editions are made and who contributes original art to the production of those books. 🧐

[@UncannyMike]

i wonder what percentage of that is just owned by the guys from cool lines art

[@boibleu22]

@@UncannyMike those guys are the laughing stock of the original art world. They have a ton of art, but nothing truly iconic.

[@awesomeadamfrom2099]

Awesome job gem.

[@halfdrawnpe]

That's insane. I'd also love to know the type of people buying comic collectibles at these prices. Probably Mr. Beast picking these things up! 😆

[@Graphicxtras1]

Assume the comic art market is much like the art market, these items are now major investments, good to see. Be great to see more and more of these original art pages recognised by the major galleries, I would love to see some Brian Bolland, Dave McKean etc hanging on the walls of the Tate galleries in the UK etc. No problem with people buying what they want but original art pages are generally not for me (have a small collection of very under-powered pages). People are willing to spend 400 million etc on a work of art, why not on brilliant comic book art as well

[@captain_uk]

There is something going on here with the big auction houses I cant quite put my finger on it but I think its a case of creating a want by buying there own products , very underhand but very likely it happens quite alot in the high end collectables market especially the art world.

[@MrMookiejr]

It would be nice to own a piece of history like that, but that is a crazy amount of money. That's one dedicated fan.

[@RPRsChannel]

*_I mean, you could have bought Action Comics #1 CGC 9.0 or higher for that price. Something is going on here and it's not good for us collectors_*

[@deerealhino69]

That’s just insane about that sale 🤯

[@spinnerrackstudios]

Well, I was completely taken back by the Spidey art sale. Quite frankly, I would question the authenticity of the sale except for the fact that it was through Heritage? While I get it is the first page appearance in the book with the symbiote black costume (which subsequently becomes Venom), Spidey in the black costume is also on that cover, so to me that is his first appearance (on the cover). I could maybe understand $3.36 million for the cover, but for that page? From an art standpoint, a relatively substandard page in my opinion! There is no background work in the panel - it’s nothing more than a very basic drawing of Spidey (nothing against Mike Zeck, I like his work but this is nothing special.)

[@adilahmed5134]

#252 spiderman comic is available in digital NFT format on veve app too and skyrocketed. Plently of other comics and 3D collectibles everyone here would like. FA superheroes like spiderman, superman etc. Macfarlane batman that was the first on the app and pumped like mad. Amazing investments for collectors!

[@kohnhead_3429]

Excuse my French lol but that’s fucking insane! Could you even imagine. Man that would be nice!

[@daabears7534]

Thats INSANE!!!!

[@Anderiscollectz]

Love the shirt almost bought yesterday at Target but anyways i watched this live auction and was blown away 🤯🤯💯💯

[@DConstructiveCritic]

So stoked I never sold my comics from the 80s!!

[@Andrew-km1we]

This is outrageous !

[@teslacoil3286]

Definitely do not keep your money in the bank. PM's, collectables, artwork. that's what rich folk do.

[@Pewpewpew182]

What do you think of TCG’s going up in price also? Either way, 3million is insane. Great to see 2 videos from you in 1 day bro

[@coolcatscomix1761]

Spiderman awesome art ! ✌️😎👍‼️

[@joffrecastro1783]

Man I can't believe that someone bought this piece of issue it mind blowing that it sold for this much money

[@anthonygarcia8749]

This is insane but what's more insane is that cool ass spidey sweater you got Gem, where'd you get it?😍😍🔥🔥

[@MostlyJoshin]

Station Swoll Mint!

[@stancartmankenny]

That's more than any action comics #1 has sold for.

[@KurisuDikei]

This makes me excited to have all the original Secret Wars in pretty good condition and copies of number 8

[@traviswilcox3472]

If I was the seller, I’d cut a nice hefty check to the actual artist the amazing Mike Zeck. Zeck is one of the best comic artists ever & deserves to be rewarded.

[@LesaHumanidad89]

nice one

[@UserName-vv1ws]

You know what else sold for 3milly!? . . . . . . . *DEEZ NUTS*

[@UserName-vv1ws]

Sorry I’m a undignified 1/6 collector, Mybad fam

[@makzax]

Insane prices!!

[@robertanderson2201]

For 3mil, it better be the only one on existence.

[@jasonw3479]

As crazy as this price looks, I've always wondered why comic art doesn't sell for more than it does, especially with the market as it is now for comics. The art is true one of a kind. And art of the first appearance of the symbiote? Why shouldn't it sell for an exorbitant amount? Fine art pieces can sell for absolute insane prices. I'm less surprised by this than some of the comic prices we've been seeing, tbh.

[@mikehext]

Its a shell bid. Heritage just speculating the price up cuz they're probably sitting on more they can trick people into buying and they exit with the cash.

[@timkiernan1277]

I wonder if there has been some backlash from the crazy NFT market, people wanting OG work for real.

[@horatimetalero]

thats insane! 3 millions is just too much for a page.

[@geekybeekcollectibles]

This is the original art other used for the comic print, right? Not just a page that isn't colored?

[@kademassey9]

I have had secret wars 8 for a long time I found it at a sale for 50 cents I thought the art looked cool and I like spiderman so I got it. It is in great condition and i later found out that it was the orgin of the blacl suit and such. Now this. Pretty crazy

[@luisfernandez8638]

You looking healthy Gem. Keep it up

[@Mony514]

Sounds like money laundering to me, but then again what do I know?

[@yooobestcollectorever6158]

Damn this almost sold for more then a 9.6 AF15!?!?!?!?

[@UltimatePower01]

The man basically made his retirement fund in one transaction, crazy stuff!

[@RPRsChannel]

*_I just do not understand this sale. I think there is some "activity going on here, much like with encased video games"_*

[@dSCHUMI1004]

After the whole Videogame Scam Heritage and WATA pulled of (and there’s more then enough evidence for it IMO) I wouldn’t trust any of numbers Heritage puts out. Comic books seem to be the next market they want to inflate way too fast.

[@randyrobbins3393]

This is bad for the common guy just trying to collect. 😢

[@kennethbyrd2230]

Another awesome video done by you thank you so much for doing this awesome video I hope you and all your loved ones will be having a wonderful night and day with all the loved ones and friends too thank you so much for what you do

[@noxus158]

Now with the confirmation of secret wars from sdcc will secret wars 8 go up alot in value now

[@killianmeade]

This is just crazy. Will this continue to increase the price to unbelievable levels

[@graposo7]

Holy snap!

[@acebobbomb]

It would someone a rich man, Old Hickory-Dickel!!!!!!!!🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@paul-norsemgr9263]

Hopefully KZbin sends you all the money so you can buy art like this.

[@Goose_Willis]

If I could spend millions on comic history, I would.

[@shanedizzle22]

Theres only one person spending $3 million on Spiderman… Wilson Fisk.

[@jcolon5966]

Funny thing is I also have the comic book. I have secret wars 7,8 9 I've been collecting comics since I was about 16 yes old. Now I've been looking for prices for all my X-Men uncanny. Let me know anyone which uncanny X-Men are worth something.

[@MattMatt77]

What I have heard this is the first auction they accepted cryptocurrency... So yeah. An it also sucks because it maybe will push... Low tier art to a level it shouldn't be at.

[@theflyingninja1]

It's probably the same scam that's been done with retro games. Very suspicious that Heritage Auctions is involved.

[@ACCollection]

Nice!

[@andysavard1884]

Very interesting video keep up the good work

[@DeVstatrOmga]

Money laundering

[@bootleggodzilla1]

there isnt a tie for first black suit spidey. marvel age 12 was the first mention of it and showed it and came out months before and marvel team up came out 2 weeks before spidey 252 and both of those came out 6 months before secret wars 8, so not a tie at all. modern collectors have just invented the narrative of a tie and started to say that secret wars 8 is the first appearance which is completely incorrect.

[@aliali-ce3yf]

it's all pure speculation. bubble will burst.

[@robertmares5244]

Well. At least he’s not spending money on an nft..

[@JaydontPlay124]

I'm so confused my dad has the originL number 8 but on ebay they go for like 300-500 ?

[@bobbymak6964]

If I had a million dollars and I had to buy comics as an investment, I would buy key comics from the Golden Age for their rarety. I feel that it is some sort of publicity scheme or collection manipulation especially in times of high inflation.

[@rezamosleh4561]

Hi. I have a question. In which comic about deadpool, we realise that he had cancer and he has some power because of X weapon experiment?

[@elanlieberman5951]

that is crazy

[@Mikah234]

This isn't even a concern or some thing I'd think about. It's way out of my realm of collecting. So to whom ever is spending millions on collectables. Good luck to you and just leave the lower grade raw goodies for collectors like me to hunt down. And get if I'm lucky enough to find. :)

[@thenightowl2012]

is there anything special about that specific page because I have that same comic book with the page

[@richardzaric2524]

Does that price include the buyer's premium? Either way, Heritage must be really happy!

[@gqd1975]

In canada you pay tax on any gain over $1,000. Or you should according to the CRA. lol 😜

[@CoachDale_TopNotchMuayThai]

Gotta be some new NFT baller now buying up real artwork

[@kingham1742]

I have the whole series including issue 8