Secret Wars, Part 2 - Atop the Fourth Wall

[@cameronlapage7386]

Some would argue that the longest lasting effect of Secret Wars is Titania and Absorbing Man's romance. They're still married.

[@ttgb2990]

But f*ck Pete and MJ, am I right? *sigh* Hopefully our dreams come true by Spider-Man #900…

[@changvasejarik62]

And I admit I have a fondness for their romance. The highlight for me was In universe x where absorbing man is at his most powerful having absorbed the intelligence of ultron and killing the avengers successfully with his transmutation powers. In the end the man who killed the avengers sacrificed his life to save the earth because he loved his wife Titania.

[@Macrochenia]

It's kind of sad when a pair of C-List villains have the healthiest and most stable relationship in Marvel.

[@Zenn_Chan]

@@Macrochenia I mean, that’s exactly why. Nobody would care if they had a big dramatic breakup, so might as well keep them as a cute couple

[@scion9588]

I mean. Do we count Venom existing as an effect of Secret Wars?

[@dechha1981]

this is a side of Galactus I don't think i've ever seen before. When he's not hungry, he's just a giant who doesn't really give a shit about anything.

[@BlackINKim]

Or, occasionally, being a Tsundere towards the Silver Surfer, by saving his ass a bunch of time, but it totally wasn't out of sympathy towards him or anything, he just *happened* to be there just in the right time at the right place.

[@ColtGColtG]

Black INK.I.M: especially awesome in the non canon story, "Silver Surfer Requiem" where Galactus actually ignores his own hunger to stand vigil for the dead surfer for a few days then chooses to honor his former herald by turning his body into a star.

[@AspieMediaBobby]

I guess,Intergalactic Heralds work the same way as kisses.You never forget the first one.

[@Nightmster]

I'd recommend checking out Ultimates by Al Ewing (nothing to do with the Ultimate Universe's Avengers) to see what happens when you "fix" Galactus.

[@wdcain1]

The new _Ultimates_ comic shows that the reason why Galactus is like this is because he was made incorrectly. After the Big Bang, he was meant to seed worlds to create life and not destroy them but the process was interrupted. Fortunately they fixed him and he became Galactus the Life-Bringer, Seeder of Worlds!

[@JohnnyComptonAuthor]

KLAW: You narrate your life as you go along don't you? Are you being taped? DOOM: Why yes! Every utterance of Doom must be recorded for posterity! One of countless examples of why Doom is a villainous treat.

[@namegoeshere5220]

Bondye And people wonder why Doom is considered one of, if not the, best Marvel villains/antiheroes.

[@jimheath1558]

You left out the most titanic, most startling revelation of all: that Doom actually has a voice recorder in his armor! "Every utterance of Doom must be preserved for posterity!"

[@caerelon5071]

That's my favorite, most perfect Doomfact of all time! To my knowledge it first showed up in the second Superman/Spider-man giant-size crossover, where they faced off against Dr. Doom and the Parasite. Written by Jim Shooter, it finally explained Doom's tendency to monologue. I had forgotten it surfaced again in Secret Wars, also written by Jim Shooter. I'm not sure any other writer used that, but they should have. It explains so much.

[@1monki]

And didn't Iron-Man have roller-skates in his armor? Totally glossed over in this video!

[@johnnygyro2295]

"Doom feels this deserved after how *crappy* a day Doom has had until now." Everyone has those days Vic...

[@maugos]

Oh man, when Wasp betrayed Magneto it must have really... stung.

[@eldiegoxter7517]

...Why?

[@DLBot2016]

BOOOO!

[@thepixelman4776]

Good job.

[@roguishpaladin]

I hope you donned sunglasses and started playing "Won't Get Fooled Again" after posting that.

[@armandotorres8962]

*rimshot*

[@carlrood4457]

Between this and Emperor Doom, the argument can really be made that Doom really doesn't want to rule the world or even want ultimate power. He sabotages himself.

[@faidreview1186]

He does want it... He just doesn't think he deserves it, subconsciously

[@Predator20357]

@@faidreview1186 I wonder if it’s because of how he became Doom, his face being heavily scarred due to his own failure, while he blames Reed Richard’s, he sub consciously knows it was due to himself which goes against what he usually believes.

[@JustAnotherGamer-no3.94m]

Thanos is the one who sabotages himself, because he doesn't actually believe he deserves victory. (In the comics anyway) Dr. Doom is just cripplingly short-sighted.

[@changvasejarik62]

Doom has only one weakness, while he has intelligence, skill, and willpower to achieve universal domination, total immunity to mind control, and even universal utopia not even he has the willpower to do all the paperwork necessary to perpetuate such a universe.

[@GamerGoingGrey]

Do Hawkeye and Galactus ever sit down and talk about their shared sense of style?

[@hofaplays8840]

" DOOM KNOWS why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch!!!" - Can we get YOU to be Doom in a movie? That had me laughing hysterically for hours.

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

He'd be better, by far, than EITHER of the two most recent ones.

[@samuelbarber4154]

"Doom needs no companion, but his pet cat!"

[@OtioseFanatic]

HOFA PLAYS we need a return of the Doom from the unreleased 90’s fantastic 4 movie. He was great.

[@jfdrac]

@@OtioseFanatic Pretty bad when the one made on the budget less than the craft services from the other movie.....is actually better lol

[@reptile1677]

Does he know how jello man got into space

[@gagejoseph91]

*DOOM CAN FEEL ALL! DOOM KNOWS ALL! DOOM CAN FEEL THE ETERNAL VOID! DOOM CAN FEEL THE INFINITE PRESSURE OF CREATION ITSELF! AWARENESS HAS BECOME BUT A TOOL; MY WHIM HAS BECOME LAW! NONE IS BEYOND DOOM'S COMPREHENSION! BOUNDLESS KNOWLEDGE! CEASELESS POWER!* ...Doom still does not understand how movies keep screwing Doom up.

[@TheCrazyTalkKid]

I've heard Superman has the same problem. Zing!

[@kyriss12]

gagejoseph91 Doom feels so alone. Why does reed not return dooms affections?

[@kabob0077]

Doom needs some ice cream before Doom cries Doomself to sleep.

[@Nightmster]

At least Superman had at least one decent adaption on the big screen, as opposed to DOOM xD

[@requiem4ameme2]

Doom thinks one of the main problems is that screenwriters refuse to let Doom refer to Doomself in the third person. It's time for Doom to write Doom's own script and create a Doom that Doom can be proud of.

[@cjmoore9966]

Did anyone read the miniseries Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars? It explains that Deadpool actually was among the heroes during the event, but everyone forgot about him because Wasp willed it that way.

[@DarsiPadilla]

Or maybe Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars is unnecessary.

[@munromister777]

It actually fits in nicely, and explains some of the plot holes and weird bits of Secret Wars.

[@grantmoore8228]

And then an issue of Howard the Duck from 2015 revealed that Johnny Storm stole a piece of jewelry from Battleworld to pick up chicks only for it to turn out to be a gem belonging to the abundant glove (AKA a less powerful version of the infinity gauntlet).

[@Martialartfruituser]

14:43 This line "In any other circumstances I would help him." Reminds me why I love Doom. See, what a lot of the movies forget is that Doom is a very nuanced and developed character. That taking things like his country, his dramatics, and backstory removes Doom's worth. He is supposed to have a motivation that says, "Well, gee...if you only weren't the scum of the earth I would help you."

[@gizmofrompizmo2177]

"The Beyonder is dead!" Nietzche, eat your heart out.

[@jamesrolfe9747]

17:50 Captain America: "Dr Doom...I've come to bargain."

[@armandotorres8962]

And I thought I was the only one

[@graceliu8839]

Love all instances of Linkara as Doom.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Grace Liu Same. :3

[@jakublulek3261]

It pretty much reminds me about Skeletor. Hell, Doctor Doom and Skeletor are really close in many ways...

[@calebmayfield3878]

I wanna see him as the Joker.Maybe Jokara

[@TLAF923]

No wonder Galactus wants to eat battle-world, it’s made of other planets, SO MANY FLAVORS.

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

I'm just picturing Spidey telling everyone "yeah, I guess the machine made my suit like Spider-Woman's because I was subconsciously thinking about it! ...I was just thinking about *her suit*, I swear, nothing else."

[@thepikamence1250]

Funnily enough, the reason the black suit turned out like that was retconned to tie into the recent introduction of Knull in 2018. Apparently, now it's a fusion of Spider-Man's spider symbol and Knull's dragon emblems.

[@ttgb2990]

@@thepikamence1250 That just raises more questions as to why it looks *identical* to Spider-Woman’s symbol

[@skibot9974]

I thought it was black because of the symbiote no?

[@ImaginatorJoren]

*_DOOM KNOWS HOW MANY LICKS IT TAKES TO GET TO THE TOOTSIE ROLL CENTER OF A TOOTSIE POP!_*

[@elwafflejr3856]

DOOM KNOWS HOW GET GALACTUS MORE TWINKIES

[@spencerhugh9275]

not sure if anyone cares but if you are stoned like me atm then you can stream all of the new movies and series on instaflixxer. I've been watching with my girlfriend for the last couple of months =)

[@duncanjaxson8422]

@Spencer Hugh definitely, I have been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself =)

[@teedup8995]

Nobody welds that much power!

[@altromonte15]

Damn, this story is basically "Doom fails at everything" follows galactus towards the beyonder and gets his ass kicked, tries to contact the heroes and his ship gets blown up, tries to talk to galactus and gets swatted like a fly, tries to board his ship and gets thrown out, then manages to get his powers and goes to fight the beyonder and loses, then somehow manages to steal his power too. just to lose it one day later after being bamboozled by his own assistant after almost going crazy with the weight of his own power

[@kabob0077]

Poor Doom, someone should give him a hug.

[@donatelloi6710]

What’s worse is that it was revealed that if doom was really win he would make everything work

[@Nortarachanges]

That seems to be Doom’s thing, though. He may fail, but he tries things no one else would dare. And he doesn’t always fail ^_^

[@Predator20357]

Yet he still continues and refuses to give up

[@AquaLantern]

A love story? I don't know, Linkara. To review something like that would be... like courting death. *Thanos turns around and smirks*

[@tinkerer3399]

This series is why Doom went from an antagonist to the main threat in the Marvel Universe. Because HE IS DOOM!

[@changvasejarik62]

Secret wars was meant to promote the most popular marvel characters but really doom is the main character of the story. I can see secret wars without captain America, klaw, magneto and even reed richards. I could never see a secret wars adaptation without dr doom.

[@androzani84productions85]

@@changvasejarik62Well, there is the Avengers Assemble incarnation, in which Loki and the Beyoncé’s split the antagonist role.

[@changvasejarik62]

@@androzani84productions85 I repeat my statement.

[@carlrood4457]

So you are in a room full of bizarre alien equipment you have no idea the function of, and your first instinct is to stick your head into one instead of just ASKING THOR which one is the clothes machine. Then when he finds out it's not the right machine and no one else's new clothes work like his, he brings it back to Earth with him. This is the guy who's allegedly SOOO responsible!? What's next? A deal with the dev...?

[@Iamafishproductions]

"Only a *SCIENCE MAJOR* could randomly stick his head in an alien machine without considering the consequences!"

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

Carl Rood Personally I'm nervous enough about looking dumb in front of others that I'd probably do the same before ever walking all the way back and asking someone to point it out.

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

The Beyonder being an Inhuman/Mutant hybrid was stupid (a stupid Bendis retcon? Shocking, I know) and *was* undone, as Jonathan Hickman's Avengers run established that there's an entire race of Beyonders.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

Fuzzy Barbarian the entire race who aren't anywhere near his powers was lame too.

[@kyriss12]

Fuzzy Barbarian Didn't they also make him an evolved version of the cosmic cube at some point. I really wish they never tried to explain his back story or motivations. Beings like him work best when they're shrouded in mystery and use schemes that are either part of some plan that's only appearent after the fact, incomprehensible to lowly mortals, or just dicking with lesser beings out of sheer boredom.

[@cake6851]

Well it was always established there was a race of em. They are the makers of the cosmic cube.

[@brandonlyon730]

So the beyonder is basically Q from Star Trek then.

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

The beyonders were a race of beings who created the multiverse and then created Owen Reece, the Molecule Man as a bomb to destroy everything and spread him across the universe. Doom realized what was going on and he and part of the Molecule Man went to kill the rest of the Molecule Man, and found more efficient ways to do it. Meanwhile, as a consequence of Age of Ultron, there are many incursions in which the multiverse is being destroyed. At the end, Dr. Strange, Doctor Doom, and Molecule Man confront the Beyonders, and destroy them. Doom steals the God power and when the multiverse is destroyed by the Final Incursion, God Emperor Doom saves whatever parts of the multiverse are left, and turns it into Battleworld.

[@kieranbenclarke9821]

We all know Spider-man's costume turned black the same reason the F4's did... Marvel didn't want to buy anymore Blue Marker pens

[@androzani84productions85]

Actually, it was because a kid sent in an idea for Spider-Man to get a stealthier suit, and Shooter couldn’t use his storyline, but could pay him for the concept’s rights.

[@PokemonHaloFan]

I know that Secret Wars came out decades before it but Doom's absorbing the power of what is basically a god reminds me of what he did in the game Marvel: Ultimate Alliance when he stole all of Odin's power and became a god. I guess they decided it was a good enough idea to use twice.

[@RCBsCorner]

Lewis, you need to review more Marvel books with Doctor Doom in them. I honestly loved every single Doom joke in this!

[@MrXemnas1992]

Oh man, I remember loving the animated Secret Wars episodes as a kid...especially seeing the Lizard, my all-time favorite Spidey villain, joining the heroes. I'm going to Barnes and Nobles next weekend to pick up some reading material for a vacation and I will definitely try and pick up the original Secret Wars collection if I can find it.

[@notsosmartguy6254]

I gotta say Secret Wars 2015 was actually pretty good and had a few really fun tie ins.

[@MeliesCinemagician]

Kind of disappointing how you didn't talk about the fact that being taken prisoner by Galactus drove Klaw insane and the hilarious, absurd dialogue that results from that. All in all, though, loved the review. Secret Wars was one of the first comics (or rather, series of comics) that I read. I was already familiar with most of the characters through supplementary material like the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, but it was one of the first genuine comics that I read. And it still has my favorite Dr. Doom moment and quote of all time. Facing the Beyonder, Doom is outmatched in every conceivable way, even with the power of Galactus. He's fighting the single most powerful being he's ever encountered, with truly god-like power, but he's defiant to the end. When the Beyonder says no one can approach him, Doom replies: "Then approach ME, coward, on your knees, if you have knees! Come! Cringe before your master! Grovel before DOOM!"

[@goldencyclone4984]

"Energy that responds to strong desire or force of will?" So... the Beyonder's power is just Spiral Energy? Huh.

[@jaredsamples6969]

The beyonder 's power is the power that will pierce the heavens!

[@dr4c0blade]

Something to point out -- the one and only reason Colossus fell in love with that alien girl was because Jim Shooter wanted to break up him and Kitty Pryde, because he thought their romance was creepy. Also, something you forgot to mention -- at this point in cannon, Doom was *dead* as a doornail. It took some serious continuity re-jiggering to explain how the hell a dead man ended up alive and well on Battleworld.

[@batnerd5148]

dr4c0blade According to his own dialogue _in_ Secret Wars, so was Ultron. Apparently the Beyonder just brought them back to life.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

To be fair, Kitty was 14 when they started dating and Piotr was 20, so it WAS pretty creepy.

[@louie2drinks]

The Linkara-doom was great, I hope to see it again in later episodes.

[@michaelrhett4958]

louie2drinks I like to call him: Dr, Doomkara.

[@KyleRayner12]

What is it with great, world-conquering, terrifying despots and comfy furniture? I feel like one of these days we're going to see Darkseid in the background of a panel set at a Jordan's.

[@ravensknightindustries]

I mean, ISN'T the entire point of conquering the world and subjugating all to your will about making things more comfy for you, personally?

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

We have the best spider woman costume till spider Gwen, the intro to the black suit, hulk holding the mountain, it’s just such an incredible culmination of marvels greatness and the history is hero’s and villains, I remember having the issue with the hulk mountain cover as a kid that’s sadly since been ruined by years of love but it was truly so incredible to see, what an awesome review for an awesome comic

[@Gat720Dua]

You got to use that Doom costume more often. It's like one of the most goofiest things I ever seen you wear XD

[@changvasejarik62]

Wish granted, even ended an episode of ultimate power as doom.

[@tuvyamaeir4684]

The Tower of Doom? IT'S DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS! I KNEW IT!

[@autobotstarscream765]

Tuvya Maeir Linkara does make a D&D joke in this video comparing the Beyonder to a DM.

[@tuvyamaeir4684]

Then it should have been a follow-up as well.

[@zxtreme31]

Spider-man Animated Series had one of the most satisfying final seasons of the action shows of my childhood with the secret wars/spider wars multi-parters. Even with not actually seeing Peter and mary jane reunited knowing that he was on the way to rescuing her felt like a good way to seal off all plot holes. I know the series animation was bad pretty often but i still think it was an, ahem, amazing series.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

zxtreme31 man they reused that one Spiderman dodging doc ock whenever they could

[@declaration14]

That "sowing machine" gag was perfect.

[@thegayghost872]

Drunk Enchantress is my favorite part of this review.

[@teedup8995]

Her and Tony Stark should get together some time.

[@oblivious8868]

5:49 Man, I wasn't expecting a throwback to that gag. Well done, 90's Kid.

[@Diamondfist1]

The symbiote was not just feeding off of Spider-Man, but attempted to bond itself to him both physically and mentally.

[@CasaiAgicap]

17:50 Dormammu, I've come to bargain.

[@YandMProductions]

In rewatching this, I just had a thought that is equal parts awesome and terrifying. What if Dr. Doom became a Green Lantern?

[@steelballrunner636]

IDK I could also see him being a yellow lantern instead.

[@juniorjunior4087]

Sinestro used to be a green lantern. Besides doom has will power the could fuel the Entire lantern Corp regardless of morality.

[@jasemalvis2140]

Linkara: You're one of my favorite people to watch on a relaxing Monday afternoon while working on homework or eating a delicious waffle tower. For me these last few months have been stressfull and hard on my anxiety but having you as a part of the internet I can go back to really heals me inside. Keep doing what you're doing. You're saving lives, man.

[@L1701]

Eh, it’s not out of character for Doom to try and take power for himself. He’d been trying to steal power from cosmic beings since he first tried with the Silver Surfer back in the days of Lee and Kirby’s Fantastic Four.

[@SasukeUchiha-ix2yk]

I have this crossover to thank for the existence of the Black costume, and the eventual existence of my favorite villains for Spider-Man, Venom and eventually Carnage.

[@nobodytooimportant3621]

Notable Quotes Pt 2: Spiderman: "I wonder if I could sue her for infringing on my schitcks! I should have gotten a patent or a trademark or something..." Enchantress: "FiE! No OnE aTtEnDs! I sHaLl HaVe To CoJuRe My OwN mEaD aGaIn!...Or An InNkEePeR!" Spiderman: "That glob just...Just spread out and became a costume...and dissolved away the tatters of my old ones in the process!" Doom: "BY THE DARK GODS! My least whim alters the world around me!" Also Doom: "I...I feel every cell...Every Atom...Their Textures...Their Quivering Movements...The dance of Infinity! Doom Again: "Is there no end to his strength?! He doubles and Redoubles his onslaught with each passing second! I must draw nearer still! And Yet...All my power is Not Enough! My thrust has been blunted! My Energy Ebbs!! MY DEFENSES CRUMBLE!!!" holy crap Doom: "What is Pain to one such as I?! I-I will shut it out!" Doom shut up: "THE BEYONDER IS DEAD! NOW THE SUPREME BEING IN THE UNIVERSE *IS DOOM!!!* " Doom please: "Absorbing the Beyonder's vast energies caused my form to swell to enormous proportions." YOU ARE SUMMONED TO THE TOWER OF DOOM AT DUSK TOMORROW Hawkeye: "Count Good Ol Hawkeye in!...but could somebody PLEASE help me make some arrows first?..." (thank you...) Cap. America: "Keep in mind by the way, that if we DO decide to confront Doom, it's possible that we may be annihilated on the spot by a bolt from the blue!" oh no Doom's back: "I must let the power rise! DESTROY THEM AGAIN!" Mr Fantastic: I believe that this... "wish fulfillment" phenomenon we've been experiencing is an after-effect of the battle against doom. The planet itself seems to have been charged with residual energy which seems to respond to strong desire or force of will!" Thing: "Nice Guy, Reed...A little bit of a worry wart though...I'm gonna be fine...a little lonesome mebee...but what's that whut FDR said once? 'There aint nuthin ta fear?'" Bonus: Lizard: "Disssturb our gamesss and the Lizard will Dessstroy you! Once we finisssh our gamesss we will do as you sssay!" Doom: "Every utterance of Doom must be recorded for Posterity!"

[@richardferrara1606]

why was the "hiding under a rock" joke so funny to me?

[@autobotstarscream765]

Lone Wolfen Maybe because Doctor Doom is eviliciously funny? >XD

[@tanasaky]

"It was a big rock"

[@cheshirekat3050]

YAY for Batman!

[@CrazyDyslexicNerd]

I just can't stop wondering, what would happen if Doomkara and SNOWFLAME met...

[@Arrowdodger]

I am of two minds on Secret Wars. Some definitely sloppy writing, but this is also a very fascinating take on a topic that has been handled a couple of times, what Doctor Doom does if he wins, what is next for him. I like Crisis more, but there's some gold in here once you get past the Hitler namedropping and sketchy behavior of some of the characters

[@nick-playercharacter8583]

2:49 Klaw striking a pose like he's a JoJo character.

[@SpeedyEric1]

SEWING MACHINE!

[@NickPiers]

"You address omnipotence. Tread carefully." - Thanos, Infinity Gauntlet

[@tstockel]

Reed Richards being Reed Richards in the scene beneath the mountain is one of my favorite parts of the story. Overall it's a decent read. I like Crisis more but looking back it was a fun story and Shooter playing around with factions and inter-team conflicts was fun.

[@alexandergonyea4642]

Man, if Marvel ever got back around to making animated movies based on their comics, I'd kill to see Secret Wars adapted. I know that they won't do it now, I mean what would be the point with all the stuff from the MCU, but conceptually I think making animated versions of a lot of Marvel's old events without having to worry about canon or timeline placements for characters. They already did it for Planet Hulk, so I don't know why they have never done that again.

[@counterstructure4908]

Something to add: Deadpool was recently put in this retroactively.

[@kaicreech7336]

Sooooo, do Molecule Man powers include interstellar GPS?

[@Puerco-Potter]

Kai Creech he can feel every molecule, also he can ask them directions.

[@kaicreech7336]

...That raise so many more questions.

[@Puerco-Potter]

Kai Creech the molecules know the answers to those questions too.

[@carlrood4457]

At least one retcon more or less made him into a living Cosmic Cube, so he's wish fulfillment personified.

[@Racecarlock]

It would probably be IPS since an interstellar positioning system would go beyond one globe.

[@chwenhoou]

I wish Linkara spoke about the cover for issue #10 of Secret Wars. I remember having that book and both its cover and what was inside stayed with me despite still being very young. The sight of Doom battered, broken, and on one knee yet still defiant in the face of death speaks volumes of who Doom is and what he is capable of. Oh, and blame the Beyonder's retcon on Bendis. Aside from a few good solo series, the man sucks at everything else.

[@L1701]

Bendis is really at his best if you give him a street-level character and is not part of a larger universe.

[@Necrikus]

I love that Dr. Doom "costume" of yours. You need to use it more often.

[@armadeo4339]

The symbiote actually didn't make him any stronger or faster, it didn't even originally feed on him or make him more aggressive either. Spider-Man's entire problem with the symbiote was that it would use his body to go out and fight crime and save people while he was sleeping. That's it. Needless to say that made Spider-Man look like a huge dick when he decided to get rid of it. After all, it was only trying to help! Most adaptations try to make the symbiote a little less innocent. But ultimately the symbiote in the mainstream universe is kind of a tragic figure and its turn to evil was entirely a result of Spider-man abandoning it without explanation and leaving it trapped in Reed's lab.

[@JackBlackJr123]

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[@Videogeek95]

Um... No... Like at all actually... The Suit was an Alien Creature that was WEARING Peter for IT'S OWN PERSONAL GAIN... The suit was in fact using Peter's body while he slept... BUT it was LITERALLY draining Peter of energy 24/7 because it wasn't allowing his body to actually REST... Also AGAINST PETER'S WILL... When you use someone AGAINST THEIR WILL... You are the bad guy... You just are...

[@adinocc2042]

The art by Mike Zeck & Bob Laton is awesome. And that black Spidy costume is also awesome! This series was more or less responsible for getting me into comic book collecting. It was a great way to get introduced to a wide variety of marvel characters in one place. I still wish the gallery of villeins had been slightly better than it was tho.

[@willofbob]

Another result of Secret Wars was the creation of Titania and her eternal hatred of She-Hulk. She even briefly became the wielder of the Infinity Gem of Power.

[@L1701]

As well as her fear of Spider-Man. Their first battle resulted in Spidey easily thrashing her so badly she literally was TERRIFIED of him for a while afterwards.

[@AngelDame17]

I remember the 90's Spiderman show pretty well, it was one of my childhood staples. and yes the Secret Wars Arc was Pretty Darn Good. It felt like Spidey was having to jump through hurdles by taking on the biggest and baddest of the Marvel Universe while proving his worth to the Good Guys- A sort of Coming of Age sort of feel to the whole arc.

[@GalenNight]

Gotta love Dr Doom, he’s like a villain molten lava cake, a decadent treat for all

[@MrGBH]

No mention of Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars?

[@lightyearpig12]

Everybody prefers to forget about Deadpool's involvement after he and Wasp had a one-night stand.

[@jadenbryant9283]

@@lightyearpig12 what do you mean

[@marvelthinker3910]

I love this review, as I usually love them. However, one thing I feel the need to point out is that Spider-Man's black suit did NOT originally enhance his speed and strength. It only provided him with camouflage, the ability to turn into any clothing he desired, "unlimited" webbing, and a "dimensional aperture" that allowed him to carry small object and such without adding extra mass to his person.While talking to his symbiote, Eddie Brock/Venom later explained that, because Spider-Man already had super-strength, the black suit did not try to enhance it (or something along those lines. Admittedly, that explanation seems kind of dumb, but what can you do.) The black suit did not start enhancing Spider-man's powers until Spider-man, The Animated Series, and has since become a staple of the costume.

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

*watches clip of Doctor Doom from the Spider-Man TAS adaptation Why is Doom's voice actor doing an impression of Christopher Walken?

[@deltaprime3509]

Question, in the ultimate battle good and evil like in this comic series, what characters would you choose to represent each side, and they can be from anything, video games, movies, comics, anime, cartoons, etc, and each side can have the total of 25 characters.

[@ZiggyWSB]

Heroes: Batman Superman Buffy Doctor Who Sherlock Holmes Spider-Man Harry Potter Mr. Spock Indiana Jones James Bond Luke Skywalker Hamlet Villains: Darth Vader Joker Dracula Glados Doctor Doom Lex Luthor Magneto Voldemort Hannibal Lecter Moriarty Ganondorf Walter White I've stopped at 12 for each Side.

[@deltaprime3509]

ZiggyWSB interesting list and it's okay that you only went to 12 for each side.

[@jackmcslay]

Heroes: Goku Superman Guts (Berserk) Kenshiro Saitama Jotaro Kujo Master Chief Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) Hulk Asura (Ashura's Wrath) Bayonetta Magus (Chrono Trigger) Cutie Honey Devilman Batman He-man Joshua Fireseed Villains: DIO Ultimate Kars Akuma Darth Vader Venger (D&D cartoon) Skeletor Metallo Dr. Gero Dr. Doom Sarah Kerrigan Shao Khan Nightmare (Soul Calibur) Ezdeath Sigma (Megaman X) Rugal Bernstein Jin Kazama Arthas Menethil

[@slifer875]

15 in each side. Heroes: raziel spider-man captain america saber goku costantine dante blue bettle raven rogue yoruichi bayonetta sailor mars aya (parasite eve) yuna (summoner) villains kane carnage captain hydra gilgamesh black goku doctor doom vergil dark seid DIO dark phoenix azula lust aizen death stroke kefka

[@Studmanafier]

Gonna have to remove He-Man and put a Kamen Rider in there, though not sure which one. Ichigo? Gaim? I'm not going with Drive since that would give two people.

[@lorddrayvon1426]

"He eventually ditched it." "Eventually" = whilst Secret Wars was still being released.

[@TheForbiddenDBag]

11:46 - "Form swelling" is probably the most alien and random way for anyone to say "I got really big".. but then again "form swelling" is probably a niche term used in some /chan site somewhere.

[@tanasaky]

Next week on "Atop the Fourth Wall" - "FINE, I'LL DO IT MYSELF"

[@Dethneko]

A love story that kills half the universe... And only one planet was close enough to view the cosmic rays without also being destroyed by them; and that planet was Earth...

[@BBmetalhead04]

Claw-possessed by the Beyonder looks like he's doing Jojo poses at 16:18.

[@AnvilPro100]

5:26 Klaw and Lizard just not wanting to fight anymore so hanging out with The Thing is so funny to me lmao

[@KitsuneRokaku]

5:54 Oh 2090s Kid, we have missed you 😂😂

[@KMO325]

Klaw is a villain from Black Panther. In the comics, he is responsible for killing Black Panther's father and T'Challa, of course, becomes the ruler of Wakanda and the Black Panther.

[@fudgegorilla]

Lewis, would you ever review JLA/Avengers?

[@ShadowWingTronix]

There's so much to talk about I needed a whole week of articles to tackle it all. I imagine for Linkara it would be at least three videos.

[@atticusshadowmore3263]

Watch that be the 4th one this month

[@ShadowWingTronix]

According to his website it's Flashpoint.

[@cheshirekat3050]

Oooh! I watched the animated adaptation of Flashpoint! It was awesome seeing the Flash team up with Bruce Wayne's father.

[@DreamlandIndustries]

Ok those Dr. Doom cut-a-ways are great. Me gusta!

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Hey i realized lizard looks like reptile from mortal kombat

[@jackstamper893]

To be honest, I liked the Secret Wars (2015) concept, and it made for some great stories. Basically it was a world of "What if"-Stories

[@DSan-kl2yc]

Jack Stamper that's literally what it was

[@FalCorianHojasanta]

The infinity Saga??? will you review Thanos Quest ??? if so, HELL FUCKING YES!!!!

[@CalliopePony]

I always read the end credit text because I like to see what the final thoughts/jokes are. I didn't point out feferencing though, because a lot of people already had.

[@carlrood4457]

Little tidbit. Doom was technically "dead" when Secret Wars came out. His body had been disintegrated and his robots had downloaded his memories and personality into his ward, Kristoff, a child. The real Doom had managed to transfer his mind into a passer by. This was resolved in a Secret Wars II tie in of Fantastic Four. It ended with The Beyonder reconstituting Doom's body, transferring his mind back from the poor schlub, and sending him off to this mini-series. From what I remembered about Professor X's legs, he'd already gotten over the psychosomatic paralysis of his new body before the mini-series started, or at least before the X-Men issue where they entered Secret Wars. However, the explanation is The Beyonder just put him in the wheelchair because that's how he'd seen him in his observations. Most probably, it's like the thing with John Stewart in Crisis #1. They didn't want to give away something in the mini-series that the main series hadn't caught up to. However, it's been a while since I read Secret Wars and don't remember if they showed Xavier walking in issue 1.

[@gatorshark0870]

Can I just say I love your Doctor Doom impression! It's pretty much on par with your Batman impression!

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

Heeey now, I really like the 2015 Secret Wars! A worthy end to the universe with amazing tie-ins and truly epic storytelling!

[@CazMeister]

22:14 Technically, there were two sequels to Secret Wars, with Secret Wars 3 being The Fantastic Four #319, concluding with, if I recall, the Beyonder becoming a woman because "men are too violent". Yup.

[@ttgb2990]

Wouldn’t be the sexiest- er, I mean, *most sexist* thing to happen in their books. Just look up that one time Sue turned evil…

[@Oliver-fu1go]

Awesome Infinity Gauntlet next! Holds up so well!

[@charleshollister3612]

This by far is the best video on the internet.

[@jprofio]

Absolutely delighted by the panel of Captain America holding his fixed shield like :D

[@LordQuadros]

This comic is unrealistic because Reed Richards does something that helps people.

[@LordQuadros]

Oh, okay, he nearly gets thousands of people killed after that. That makes more sense.

[@sexonthebeach4063]

I like how almost all of them work together in the end

[@danmount9462]

Claw? Still waiting for the Inspector Gadget/Marvel crossover.

[@PauloPereira-hk9nw]

Klaw.

[@calebmayfield3878]

Dan Mount THAT WOULD BE SO TERRIBLE

[@TerryB01]

And thus the evnetual Venom debuts!

[@Vohaul86]

For some reason I've never read the Secret Wars, but it was easy to see that this had Dr Doom in his finest. I fondly remember how Dr Doom once helped the X-Men pro bono to save Kitty Pryde's life just to get a chance to prove that he's more intelligent than Reed. (But also the story of Dr Doom joining with Arcade to trap the X-Men was quite awesome.)

[@135mikerules23]

Doom loves talking about himself in the third person! Doom figures that if Mr.T and Bob Dole can do it, Doom can as well only 100 times more frequently and irregularly!

[@jackwells8107]

There was also a 'Secret Wars III' which appeared, en masse, in Fantastic Four 319. According to the writer, Steve Englehart, it happened after Jim Shooter left Marvel. FF Editor Ralph Macchio (not that one) had appaerntly always hated the Beyonder and asked Shooter to write him out.

[@DestinyZX1]

14:36 - Of course it’s like a chore you know what’s more? I took over the world twice and gave it up cause I got bored.

[@Beangoblinvt]

Doom using raw willpower to pull himself together is a weirdly heroic move

[@SpySecretSquirrel]

Doom knows why trix are for kids

[@soldiersofthehorizon6045]

"DOOM NOW KNOWS WHY KIDS LOVE THE TASTE OF CINNAMON TOAST CRUNCH! DOOM KNOWS EVERYTHING!" Best. Quote. Ever.

[@Quirky_QF]

Sounds like Doctor Doom was channeling Christopher Walken.