Secret Workholding Process Revealed to Hold Impossible Part

[@tubalcain1]

Man I wish I would have taken machining classes at a younger age! This is so fascinating! I'm 56 years old already and dealing with many health problems... all I can do is sit and watch now. Thank you for all these exciting videos! I really wish I could visit and tour your facility one day! Thank you Titan!

[@nowar9220]

You might be surprised how quickly you can learn alot of this stuff! Obviously I don't know your situation and best of wishes you get better but I think there's alot you could do just taking it slow and having some fun, buy a small cheap manual machine, it feels great when you finish something you made yourself! Good luck!

[@reallybig4868]

I can relate even at 38

[@d.martins4471]

well, in this business, age is nothing, money is everything, you could be doing this even if 80 years old, since the machine does almost everything, but you need the money for this level of machinery. health problems can be dealt with depending on which.

[@d.martins4471]

@@reallybig4868 if you think you are too old to do this at 38, youre absolutely nuts

[@steveanderson4768]

I know exactly what you’re saying. I love watching it. I did a little bit of manual lathe work, milling machine stuff like that in my time in the US Navy but this stuff is light years ahead of anything that’s going on.

[@ffagilar2245]

The shade this dude just sent at operators. "Especially if your just squaring up a block." Lmao

[@thomasmclaughlin3863]

Making your own tools is *so* next-level

[@mirzoni5331]

Siemens aka sinumerik is awesome, im using siemens for past 15 years, and i can tell you they have best interface logic and very easy to use. For me siemens is the best out there, i know fanuc, and heidenhain control as well, but prefer siemens. The beauty of manual programing is siemens 😀

[@davidsipayboun9146]

night and day difference.

[@mirzoni5331]

@@davidsipayboun9146 yes it is. Siemens rulz

[@markdavis304]

Good work Jessie. Can't wait to see the finished drum!👏

[@Sara-TOC]

Great explanation of your process, Jessie! 🎉 I’m looking forward to seeing the final assembly and sound test of the drum. 😊

[@klasjanzen1165]

Hmmmm, why didn't I think about sound tests while I'm so much looking forward to see the finished part

[@travistucker7317]

I had to make a part very similar to this on an integrex. It was a thick 4340 pipe that was a crank case housing for an axial piston compressor. More or less a tube with flanges on the ends and 6 big windows around the outside. The issue on that machine, was that C wouldn't clamp and lock after adding a 12" 4 jaw, 4 huge pie jaws, and 250lbs of stock. I was able to turn the part to length and ID/OD, and then turn away the majority of the inside of the jaws. Finally did the C0 window with a few overloads, C180 window with one overload, and the rest like butter. It came with 8" chucks, so i don't guess that's so crazy. Made that entire compressor on that integrex. Fond memories.

[@mp6756]

That sounds like one of those parts you will remember. Cool stuff

[@brandons9138]

Biggest advantage here is that doing it on the machine where you're running the job makes positioning the part much easier.

[@mrctuned2844]

Awesome video! It's cool for me to watch these with a different perspective and knowledge base than I did just 6 months ago. I bought a Langmuir MR-1 personal CNC and have been learning how to do all this myself, with zero machining background or knowledge. Videos like this open the mind up to more possibilities when needing to make your own fixturing, probably one of the hardest things to learn for a newbie, at least it has been for me. Thanks for the great video, really looking forward to the finishing process!

[@hiryu543]

Interesting. Even our old Maho MH 700s from 1989 with the old Philips 432 has the foolproof manual tool change feature.

[@Machining-tutorials]

Awesome project! Love seeing creativity in machining. At Machining Tutorials, we focus on showing the day-to-day grind of keeping industries running, but it’s always inspiring to see what’s possible when there’s time for something artistic like this.

[@1320pass]

Awesome! Drummer here, and I 100 percent don't have the budget for that drum! 😂 But it's cool as frig and I can't wait to hear it.

[@MikeYurbasovich]

Trick used to make aluminum drums like this back in the 90's

[@richardharvey216]

Incredible what All you guys make. Just insane to watch. I have very little cnc experience. But I am amazed at how they work and what they can do.

[@Thewaldo12345]

Can’t wait to see the final video in March 😂.

[@markpetovic2062]

June

[@travistucker7317]

2026 gonna be so lit

[@nicolespittler9530]

Great technique!

[@shaniegust1225]

Creative fixturing! Love it!

[@bf4chode2]

It’s not. It is as common as common gets. I’ll tell you a secret too, it’s not a secret like they say it is.

[@MrCNC]

Wow great job Jessie. Nice work on those jaws. I never saw the need to buy soft jaws either. So much better when you make them yourself.

[@barrysetzer]

15:46 best part of this video

[@mehmettemel8725]

Was that a pumpkin soup Barry?😂😂😂

[@barrysetzer]

@ hahaha actually it didnt taste bad…..so yes 😂

[@christophervillalpando5865]

Great Work Jessie!

[@donniehinske]

Awesome video Jessie! Should work well

[@MZPatiluko]

Great video!

[@milkcorez]

There is also cool option on SIEMENS, that allows you to set your tool change always manual. It's helps when you go through a new program and don't need to set all these new tools into mag, especially if it's almost full. And the good thing, that in this mode machine moves spindle close to you, so you can easily change to new tool. Love it

[@cuprakol]

Used shopmill and shop turn for 13 years and have never found anything to beat it and done some really complex stuff with it .

[@magnuskjeldsen4735]

Thats so cool you Can open the top of the machine !

[@TheDEG]

Great video as always

[@Vankel83]

Nice chunk of 6061-T651 plate used for to make pie jaws.

[@JustinMiales]

You taught me everything I need to know I'll be in first thing in the morning.

[@djpsyberflash]

Yeah, this is nice kreativ workings, great jobs

[@UlisesCastroP]

Amazing gays. From Costa Rica 💪💪

[@nickw3159]

it is possible to position on the spindle close to the door, or to be able to bring large tools in and out more easily?

[@bjorne46]

I was pleased to see you thought of the metal band trick, for creating the same pressure as when clamping the part. Why didn't you use a mill to rough the blocks to the approximate diameter while on the 4 way chuck? I think the surface finish on the drum is a bit too rough, would have loved to see that milled smoother.

[@Tylerthecreatorofdistruction]

You can do manual tool loading and program the position for the spindle on the fanuc dn controller. Have to have tool management on. It works the same as this but you have the option to have the spindle move to the door to load

[@NaderElgdawy]

What is the brand of inside camera with clamp ?.. I need purchasing one for my puma 5100 lyb

[@luca5867]

THATS WHAT THAT WAS FOR!!! it happened to me call a non existent tool and then the machine would randomly ask me to open the door, now it makes sense

[@kravselj]

1998 heidenhain 426 does manual tool change in similar way. It also doesn't let you run spindle or program without tool in it. I just can't understand how unfriendly some of the other controlls are.

[@2SMPerformance]

Top notch content Jesse

[@clintonmiller4917]

The only thing that sucks about this video is that it proves to me just how dumb I truly am. I don't know a dog gone thing about this kind of work, but I sure love to watch yall make things. My Brain hurts everytime you speak about how to make things, LOL. Great job again, and may God Bless you all. It's obvious that God already did Bless you with a great employer and all that knowledgeable info you've learned.

[@TITANSofCNC]

Thank you for your kind words! You are not dumb. Learning is a journey, and we all start from nothing. What matters is your determination to grow, and it’s never too late to embrace something new. Take a browse through TITANS of CNC Academy. Even if you’re unable to access a machine, you can still learn how to design and create tool paths for parts, which can also be certified on CNC EXPERT. academy.titansofcnc.com Keep pushing forward, and may God Bless your journey. 😁

[@luckgrip252]

Once you get into that trade, it becomes exciting and there always are some questions in mind that gets answered and you know it once there is a solution to something you thought about. 3 years ago I knew just as much as you supposedly do about CNC machining - nothing, now I've been working on CNC machines and have gained a decent amount of experience and knowledge, I'd be hyped to get on something bigger or more advanced (difficult) like 5-axis mills and up

[@clintonmiller4917]

@luckgrip252 greatest of luck to you. Unfortunately I'm old and broke down. I'd rather just watch on the sidelines and be amazed by the work yall do. I've put my many years in as a heavy equipment operator. My time is over and I'm fine with that.

[@JanBinnendijk]

It's nice to see how the Siniumerik Control works, i've worked with all kinds of controls, like Fagor, Fadal, Mitsubishi, Brother, Cincinatti, Elora, Deckel, Heidenhain, Style, EMCOtronic and EdingCNC. With EdingCNC, you can make your own dialogs and cycles with Macro's.. and i'm constantly looking for the best features of all these controls, and try to copy some of these to EdingCNC, since that runs my own machines..

[@tanner3801]

11:53 Really, really siemless

[@tomte47]

The tool management works almost identical on Heidenhain controls, if you got a 60 tool magazine you just number your tools 61 and up and the machine know it's a manual tool change, if you got X or Y in the spindle it will even move as close to the operator as possible to make it easier to swap.

[@kristiankautto7616]

you need to mark the tools for manual? i have the tool list at like 500 but only 71 places in the changer and its not trying to manual change

[@tomte47]

@@kristiankautto7616 I have to check, Me or someone else might have done that a long time ago. Could also be some difference between manufacturers and which version of the control you are running. I run a DMG with TNC 530 control.

[@brandonkauffman1112]

Nothing like Pie in the morning!

[@eslmatt811]

It always amazes me how much time and materials go to work holding. For a one off part, it seems like a sizable portion of the part cost.

[@CarlosSilva-fg8he]

I liked the manual tool change system, where I work I put an M00 in the program to stop and write (put tool) and at the end another M00 and (take tool out) my machine is very simple, one lack of attention and everything goes down the drain

[@Namegoeshere-op9hg]

Brilliant

[@aaronward3882]

Is this manual tool change feature new to Siemens? Hurco has had this since the 80s

[@john-meyer]

Awesome work, Jessie! Thanks for the detailed explanation of programming at the machine. The Siemens control looks very intuitive. Is that the 840 or the Sinumerik One you're using?

[@johannesfossi5561]

seems like you guys have red the comments about not actually finishing parts. I apprietiate this content showing you going the whole way.

[@bf4chode2]

2 weeks later we still don’t have the finished part lol

[@piratiniwood547]

Product and Tool holding is 95% of the job, nice job 😊

[@ludyvannoort]

Fantastic exlanation, in the Netherlands we will call you a “ vaksjaak”. Nice job. Ps on a Heidenhain control it is also possible like this

[@klasjanzen1165]

No doubt I like all your videos, but yes, you had to remind me to give it a 👍 seems like we all suck at showing and appreciating what we like

[@rpm4999]

Did you think about putting a slight taper on the od of the jaws to compensate for deflection over the height so clamping pressure is even from top to bottom?

[@bf4chode2]

No dude because this was obviously the first time these guys have ever heard of or seen pie jaws in their lives. They called it a secret in the title.

[@koichan1628]

Booom. Long time no see. Boom

[@MarcoAntonioJoaquim]

Eu não entendo nada mais amo o que vc faz Deus abençoe sempre 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@snailze6761]

World's most Expensive SNARE DRUM!!! Please also machine all necessary hardware, because that would be sick!

[@MrDJDreamon]

Hermle also checks if there's a tool in the spindle after it's unclamped and clamped. Without the tool present it won't run. And this is a feature that is present for at least 15 years. So great explanation but it's basically old tech

[@TITANSofCNC]

It’s just showing the Siemens control compared to Fanuc.

[@karolkaleta4421]

​@@TITANSofCNC Heidenhein also have simmilar procedure for manual tool change.

[@karolkaleta4421]

@@TITANSofCNC Heidenhein also has simmilar procedure for manual tool change.

[@tobiasmuller2086]

Heidenhain is brilliant. I work on a DMU 80 monoblock and in between on various Haas VF series. Unfortunately I haven't had any experience with Siemens yet, but I always say: the control is only as good as the machinist.

[@Nathan-vq9ch]

5 times diameter was that the length of tool ? & you turned the jaws the same inside diameter as drum ? Titans keep on booming

[@jeremyweber5975]

Yes it was length of drill

[@MrFallenone]

Heidenhain handles the tool change of tools you don't want in the mag the same way. Just don't give them a mag number and its going to ask for it on tool call and spit it out when you call another tool.

[@scudzuki]

Doesn't the control already stop and prompt the operator to manually load the tool if the tool is not assigned to a tool pocket?

[@MarcinKryszak]

Did you guys tested this manual tool change on Barry, to know for sure is fault proof? Cool vid Jessie.

[@jeffgraffham2981]

Good stuff

[@andrden6440]

Thank you for sharing Will you please show the finished drum. And if possible get the artist to play it too

[@bf4chode2]

Lol I hope you ain’t holding your breath

[@kdenyer1]

Personal I would like it to check the tool length before and after you load the manual tool just to see if a tool is present 😊

[@paco6647]

What about the final runnout? Nice video

[@ffagilar2245]

At first I'm like "big deal who hasn't had to manually load a big tool?" But then he smashed that cycle start button and that machine didn't go. That's insane. Normally I just put 5 or 6 M00's .

[@travistucker7317]

M00 (change tool) M00 (the big drill, dummy) M00 (the one right behind you) M00 (seriously, don't forget) M00 (its on you now) G81 M151 Z-867.5309 G53z M00 (don't forget the drill again) M00 (set it on the table) M00 (take out the drill) M00 (maybe it won't be that bad) M00 (let's see what happens)

[@logannewman4532]

I just find it odd that this control refers to a M01 as a "programmed stop". Every control I've ever worked on calls that an optional stop. Programmed stop is M00.

[@왁스바른호랑이]

Awsome u show me a vision to manufacturing thank u bro I also run lathe ,utube channel I hope to work project with u

[@rs2024-s4u]

To me this looks like a EDM job, did you consider EDM solutions for removing the bulk of material? Ray

[@lunaris73]

Monster machinist

[@timmontano8792]

Out of respect for the "Chuck" that I had to make, I don't refer to it as a "Chuck." I call it by its formal name. I call it a "Charles."

[@henmich]

13:33 That's about 500 dollars of billet for those soft jaws... These guys don't mess around.

[@henmich]

0:23 I'm surprised by the finish surface from the mill. That looks no bueno. Looks like a very rough roughing pass, but he's saying final.

[@raindeergames6104]

Awesomeness

[@karolkaleta4421]

You can even use some pin to locate your part with this jaw.

[@maxwellmaxwell9970]

Boom🗣️

[@mrgrey9584]

Great process but I’d suggest not blowing tool off in machine while spindle is empty could end up with swarff chips in it .

[@brianropel]

When I first started watching Barry make these videos I started wondering if you guys were making them as a punishment for when someone crashes. That you then make them make a how to video on how to avoid that crash 😅

[@TheFeralEngineer]

Height ends with a hard T sound, not th DMG machines will bring the head over to the door for manual tools 😉

[@matthewcrosby3615]

WIth how state of the art your machines are was expecting it to send out a drone to mount the 4 jaw automatically.

[@KingMiodrag]

One more improvment if the spindle comes to the door so its more comforteble to change the tool

[@samuelpuhretmayr5036]

making special soft jaws is really no secret

[@bf4chode2]

Lol thank you. These guys are weird.

[@russellofcnc]

Jessie don't wanna work, he wanna program and machine his drum all day!

[@turbo2ltr]

Couldn't you have just used all the existing tapped holes all the way around the unit to hold it to a fixture?

[@gertkristensen6451]

CAN IT FEEL IF TOOL NOT IS IN SPINDEL ??

[@flikflak24]

A mill doing turn xD ( one of the old guys told me that the operator is called a "mill" cause his working/operating a "milling machine" hits why his title is a "mill" . "A mill is useing a endmill on a milling machine " and a lathe operator is called a "lathe" operating a "turning machine" )

[@unaffected_covid]

🔥🔥🔥

[@myatty01]

Rather than a pocket for your jaw why would you not create an undercut whilst turning

[@ll6261]

Sehr gute Idee. Aber sehr Kostspilig. Lösung ist nur Für große Serien geeignet.

[@connerwoodhams3416]

Mazak asking for conversational programming.

[@danielhurford6706]

Such a cool video. Okuma contol does it better imo.

[@brianmccutchan9513]

Only those that can see the invisible can do the impossible.

[@azietxu5779]

Demasiado costoso el utillaje.No se cuanto vas a cobrar por hacer esa pieza.

[@pellepop100]

No doubt this drum will sound harsh, ringy, lacking in bottom end. It’ll look spectacular though, if you’re into blingey things

[@luckgrip252]

Now let's not make dozens of short content and put out the finished project in a timely manner

[@bf4chode2]

Lolol

[@markthemuskrat5574]

The "secret" workholding was SOFT JAWS on a chuck. what a joke

[@danielmartin7674]

$50,000 snare drum ring

[@steelwheelsminnesota]

Smart enough to tell you the manual tool load process but not smart enough to tell you which tool you're supposed to put in. Come on, Siemens, you can do better.

[@reverz3]

7:42 - right hand side, next to the T is the current tool and a bit below that, there's the ">> DR_1.260_FLAT", indicating the next tool. But yea, you could also put it in the operator message, if you put in the effort as a machine manufacturer, that's not a Siemens thing.

[@steelwheelsminnesota]

​@reverz3 I see what you're saying. I'm pretty sure that is a Siemens thing though. I have an 840D from 2005 that displays this same message and message number as part of the manual TC cycle. I did add the tool number to the message, just a matter of & $P_TOOL & in the message string if my memory serves me. This was all on a Giddings boring mill built in WI, before Fives took it over. Every piece of Giddings software was written in English, while the tool changer and machining cycles were all written in German.

[@michaelschauer4813]

HEIDENHAIN since 1992 normal feture 5:40

[@giuliobuccini208]

I would just fill that drum with cheap epoxy and mount it with a couple of screws...

[@aeromorte]

Trully an impossible part.

[@ffaspector]

I dont understand. You're using coolant. It will already be dampened....