SECRETLAB TITAN EVO 2022 1 YEAR REVIEW

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I apologize guys I accidentally deleted the follow up video but the quick version is Secretlab honored their warranty and sent me out all the replacement parts to resolve all issues essentially giving me a brand new chair. They took care of me and I'm confident they'll do the same for you. I don't talk about it much but I live with an incurable illness that's forced me to rely on my KZbin channel as my only source of income to survive. That said PLEASE consider using my links in the description - it not only helps the channel but helps keep my life afloat. BIG THANK YOU to those that do.

[@Ali-ds5iy]

Sorry to hear that. what kind of disease?

[@haredeenee]

they did not do the same for me, I've been fighting them for literal years for some decent CS

[@DanielFreakinAwesome2]

That 'water stain' is just the water lifting all the dirt to the surface.. Pretty standard for old fabric, that's why you never go white lol

[@forrealfifavids7144]

It was brand new when he did that, shouldn’t be any dirt

[@kajekage9410]

It was brand new, what are you talking about.

[@taylorhutchings4612]

I don't know why I'm watching these videos again, after my spinal cord injury, in the hospital post surgery I ordered a secret lab titan and it's the most comfortable piece of furniture I own. I love my titan, I'm at the cabin now sitting in the couch and my back is killing me. As soon as I get home, I'm ordering another one to take to the cabin. If I ever accept an office position my first order of business will be to order another titan for my work station. I love this chair.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

High praise! Hope you're doing good as far as the injury goes 🙏

[@Snxgur]

Yeah dude, Same with me having back issues. Went down the high end chair hole spending $2000+ on Herman miller chairs and they are not comfortable like a titan is. The cushion of the titan is way better than any ergo chairs. People say secretlabs is bad for you, but how can i sit on it all day and 0 pain but when i sit in ergo chairs i hurt.

[@jbountalas]

I've had the cookies and cream version for about two months. My previous chair was an office chair from a big box store, so there there was definitely an acclimatization phase going on. The cloth seems to be industrial strength durable and the chair is firm to the point of having very little give. I've had no weird noises, and I've grown to like the chair, but if you're looking for cushy, this is not the one, but if you're looking for a high performance chair, I"d say this is it.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Couldn't agree more

[@brodakarat6340]

I'm coming from a sheet of plywood with a half inch of cheap foam and fabric over the top, idk what brand and the back (held on by metal) has somehow snapped off before and been repaired with a makeshift steel rod jammed up the hollow shaft that holds it on. So i think any chair will be squishier than my current one. I've ordered this chair and can't wait for it to arrive.

[@adplays7261]

@@brodakarat6340 I'm coming from pretty much the same chair, how are you getting on with it? Considering getting one for myself. Thanks

[@brodakarat6340]

@@adplays7261 it's very good I have no complaints

[@adplays7261]

@@brodakarat6340 thank you so much👍

[@nathanmarshall745]

As somebody who stands at 193 cm according to my drivers license, i tried one of these my younger brother got and it immediately felt better than the $250 gaming chair i have at home Plus, y'know, there's a batman variant, that's neat lol

[@matthewkellogg3758]

I just bought this chair and if you still have that chair I would definitely recommend going through and tightening the blots again and oiling that piston with wd-40 maybe it is because it dried out or something. Great video man. You're killin it!!!!

[@SimplyV3rna]

That noise on the piston is the vibration of plastic touching the pivot. If his setting is lowest, removing the smaller plastic cylinder (or cutting a bit of height) might resolve the issue without exposing the piston much from dust.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Secretlab took care of me and ended up sending almost an entire new chair

[@artcloudd]

wow you would think as much as this chair cost it wouldn't have these minor issues. I was about to purchase one of these but not going to now, Thank you so much for this honest review !!

[@minecrafter4623]

Did you find something else to go with?

[@DavyDave1313]

I got tired of buying those cheap Amazon “big and tall” chairs that aren’t the most comfortable and end up crapping out after 1-2 years so I got me this titan evo xl. Absolutely love it, but also having problems. Armrests aren’t very solid - they shake very easily and one time when I supported myself on the right one to get up, it slid all the way down which hurt my ego quite a bit but that’s beside the point. For $600ish dollars I expect there to not be any kind of problems arising - especially not when I’ve only had the damn thing for 2 weeks

[@charliemcawesome5012]

That dust on your legs during the piston noise part is why the top is looking dirty. You only have to grab a white chair a few times to cause that. But if no one else is in the room using the chair….. you are grabbing the top. White is a tough choice.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Luckily they pretty much replaced the whole chair. I got rid of it though and now have a white stormtrooper chair but keep a black skin over it.

[@SeaCaps]

I’ve had that same exact chair for a year and a half. Had the same backrest issue that they resolved by sending me a new backrest and also a clunking noise coming from the tilt mechanism that they also sent me a replacement. It seems they have some quality control issues but their customer support has resolved them all for me.

[@thomashansen4763]

I just got my Cookies & Cream yesterday, im happy to see you doing follow up videos like this :) Hearing you findings after a year, makes me feel i made the right choice picking this over so many other chairs. Thank you for that.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

You're absolutely welcome! I was tempted with Cookies & Cream as well, in the end I chose Arctic simply for the pop of color it gives my videos but you'll enjoy this chair and so far in my experience support has been great. Will follow up with part 2 once I get to that point.

[@thomashansen4763]

@@JacobDarkOfficial Well the joy was short lived for me here, yesterday it lumbar support is making the noise, i have tried the higher/lower, in/out thing like 30 times now, also i belive i have heard secertlab has said they fixed this, and also that they installed the barrier kit on all chairs going out from that point, mine dont have the barrier kit installed, and it is not in the box. So i guess i got an old version. Yea i guess i have to talk to the support already :(

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

@@thomashansen4763 Bummer, so far from what I've experienced they'll take care of you but yea a new product shouldn't come with issues, let me know what happens

[@thomashansen4763]

@@JacobDarkOfficial I will keep you posted :) Have a great day

[@thomashansen4763]

@@JacobDarkOfficial Hello again. I got a new backrest and the barrier kit, but sadly after a day or so the noise is back, just like the first one. I have done the lumbar movement thing like 30+ times but it just keeps coming back. I have sent the support another mail, lets see what happens next :(

[@Mountaintops]

Thing is, my friend has these EXACT same issues with his titan after a year as well. That shows it’s not a 1 in a million case. The fact that I had a crap $150 “gaming” chair for over a year and never experienced any of these issues with it is crazy. For the price that’s insane to deal with

[@freedomthefreeman487]

It’s got a 3 year warranty.

[@jacobsteele7138]

I've had one for 3 years. With the lumbar pillow, I love it. No noise. Lucky I guess. But I don't spend the time in it you do.

[@armen1136]

I have the 2020 model and been using it for 2 years now and haven't had any issues with it, I'll probably upgrade to a newer version in 2 to 3 years. I definitely found the chair too firm when I first starting using, But after about a week, I found it super comfortable and have no issues with comfort now. I was just used to soft chair which is why I found it uncomfortable at first.

[@stonecold91]

Do not buy the 22 model. So many issues for the price tag. I regret buying it...

[@armen1136]

@@stonecold91 Damn that's a shame. I haven't had any issues with the 2020 model. Thanks for the heads up.

[@samueljackson2257]

@@stonecold91 like what? im thinking of buying it but im wondering if im making the wrong choice.

[@stonecold91]

​@@samueljackson2257 the backrest of the chair is making strange noises when i rest my back on it, something like metal is stretching...weird sound. Also when i turn the chair around the piston is screeching. Dont get me wrong, i have the charcoal fabric and i love the looks and how it feels but a product in this price should be perfect. I am not supposed to service a chair myself every couple of weeks so it remains silent.

[@samueljackson2257]

@@stonecold91 ok thanks for telling me, would you say its comfortable enough to the point where all those issues dont really matter?

[@DrivenKeys]

Thanks Jacob, your videos helped me decide on this chair. If you look closely, some of the less expensive competition uses the same parts, so you can spend 60-130 less for something very similar, but it isn't worth sacrificing the warranty support of the Secretlab branded chairs. Secretlab's less expensive company offers the same warranty coverage in print, but the only online reviews I found said customer support was lacking compared to Secretlabs. They seem to have cornered the market, you only need one part to go bad to justify the extra upfront expense.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I really appreciate the views and I agree, I'm currently communicating to see how things go on the support side to get my issues fixed, when it's all said and done that upload will follow but after all the gaming chair brands I've tried I'm still sitting on my Titan Evo daily

[@Cthulch]

I... have to admit, I ordered the chair before I watched the review. But now I'm more confident that it'll be good :)

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Sounds like you'll be happy! What kind did you order?

[@Cthulch]

@@JacobDarkOfficial a grey XL Titan. Just assembled it. It's a lot bigger that I expected. Maybe just a bit too big. I'm using it on the lowest setting and it's taller than my previous chairs, lol. Well, I'll get used to it.

[@DanielFreakinAwesome2]

@@Cthulch How big/tall are you?

[@mynameiswalterhartwellwhite420]

@@DanielFreakinAwesome2 the XL is rated for people 5'11 to 6'9 so I'm guessing probably under 5'11

[@jonny-b4954]

My biggest issue with office chairs, is it's always that cheap ass glued on leather that cracks in literally a few weeks. I like the NAPA leather option but it'll still probably be a cheap leather so was going to look at this clothe one. That's my biggest thing. I put a "Purple" Seat cushion on my chairs regardless because is just such an incredible product. A cushion that 5 years on is as firm and soft as day one. I really recommend checking those out for anyone who wants a good seat cushion for the truck, gaming chair or for travel

[@jeffersonrodriguez2038]

The main reason why I'm looking for chairs is because I have chair that has cracking cheap leather.

[@jonny-b4954]

@@jeffersonrodriguez2038 Yeah, my last 2 - $300-350 chairs have utterly disintegrated on the seat. Absurd. I just bought Razer Iskur V2. The fabric version instead of fake ass leather they lie is "Good quality." It's good. It's a "firm" seat and back/lumbar support though. Wouldn't call it soft and borderline uncomfortable honestly, haha. Debating returning it. I put a big Purple cushion on it and now the seat is uber soft and it built me up 2" so the lumbar support actually touches my lumbar region hah. Dang thing was landing in the middle of my back and I'm 6 foot. Like, who did you design this chair for? haha

[@daddysenpai681]

​@jeffersonrodriguez2038 I've had my 2020 titan since 5/1/2021 and with over 5k hours in this chair and basically zero upkeep, I've had zero issues with cracking/peeling etc. It's the PU Leather version too. With a quick wipe down this chair looks the same as the day I bought it. I'm also 6' 260lbs and sweat like an icecube in an oven. I wouldn't worry about the leather at all, had a cloth omega chair and got rid of it in a week due to how hot it was.

[@RealBurnerlover]

Tbh with you I just ordered my 2022 titan evo and I’m just watching these vids so I don’t go crazy waiting

[@HiNTZ392]

I feel you I preordered the akatsuki chair but I ain’t getting it till next year 😢 imagine how I’m feeling

[@gcookz86]

The #1 reason (maybe only reason) I decided go to with a different standing desk instead of Secret Labs' Magnus was because I did not like the very limited and specific selection of desk pads they offered. They're basically proprietary - and I wanted a wood grain look to my desk. Uplift for me in the end.. but you nailed it on this comment.

[@benjaminasracas4525]

I though the desk was joke :D , like why would you spend 500€ on a desk that doesnt even have automatic movement

[@BrumBrumBryn]

I bought a generic 4 position memory standing desk bottom, and then bought a wood countertop that looks really nice and dark. Only cost me maybe $60 for the desk top, was great.

[@DAVD305]

I thought the same thing ….till I noticed why… 1) Cable Management built in, 2) Premium Magnet Desk Mat, 3) Eco System that you can easily Manage I on the fly, Headsets, Control Position of Mouse and Keyboard Cable, plus many more, 4) Full Metal Legs and Top seems to be wrapped in metal but has some other board material as desk top, either way it’s built like a tank not warping at all, 5) Free RGB Lighting strip if your into that, 6) Excellent Spacing and desk feels Top Quality……………If you want standing which I absolutely don’t need in my life as this is a gaming desk for me. Their standing has a nice desktop mount. Keeps all with great cable management. So yeah I totally think it’s worth standing or not. Now Gaming Chairs idk I think they all get destroyed eventually from the heavy use. Atleast Secret Labs is the only one I see that has a Eco system for their chairs if you need a replacement part.

[@fobz7]

I can say that after watching this I am no longer getting this chair. Shouldn’t be dealing with those issues for the high price tag IMO. Thanks for the review.

[@TheSkyWhale]

What chair did you end up going with?

[@fobz7]

@@TheSkyWhale I just ordered the Razer Enki.

[@jamesdefrange]

@@fobz7 how do you like it so far? I too feel like this is way too much bs for a $600 chair.

[@Aleskoo100]

I got an Omega 2020 PU version and it is still in mint condition, bear in mind I have only wiped it twice with a cleaner. Feels like their quality went down...

[@moogish]

I was hear for the chairs but now I feel the need to make a shot out to Sweetwater. Love the shirt bro.

[@brunopluksna3906]

I have my evo 2022 for almost a year, had piston noise, contacted support and they send me a new piston without any questions, great chair for great price and support

[@cheex9861]

Still have my 2020 Evo, still looks brand new too, the only thing is that it feels a bit stiffer than before but definitely recommend one of these chairs, I swear I only paid like 350 for mine too, the prices skyrocketed

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

They sure have! Seems like everything is overpriced these days

[@SchenkinNY]

What is lasting longer? Fabric or artificial Leather?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

It's hard to say because I've gone through so many chairs doing videos for this channel so I haven't stuck with one single chair for more than a year.

[@TurtleSauceGaming]

I've had the same staples chair since 2018, compared to previous chairs I've destroyed in a year or two. Like 2 years the fabric is ripped up from just creasing from me sitting in it long term. Latest one is their gaming chair which has a flat seat. Love it. Now I was 260lbs for a long time, and more recently lost a ton of weight, down to under 220 as of the time of writing this. I was thinking of getting a new one. My chair creaks on rare occasison. Some screws have come slightly loose because I can't be bothered to tighten them. But i spent $100 on this chair. It baffles me you can spend $500 and get these kinds of creaks.

[@freedomthefreeman487]

3 year warranty. You can get anything fixed.

[@cryptik_official]

I just got mine today and I have SEVERE squeaking in the lumbar support. It's so irritating because after all this talk that they fixed it, they clearly didn't.

[@nutellaguyau]

I think the main issue with these chairs is that the price is premium but in the end they are still cheap racing style chairs, if you want something truly comfortable you need to go an ergonomic office chair and forget about the "cool gamer race" style chairs

[@senecajones2632]

Have to ask, do you take any steps to maintain the chair? You know, clean it, oil it...or do you just expect things to remain in perfect, like-new, working order all on their own?

[@xellaz]

My 2020 Omega & Titan chairs still looks brand new with no squeaking noises whatsoever but I'm pretty light and I take care good care of all my stuff. That said, I'm still thinking of getting a Herman Miller down the line just to see what I've been missing... 🤪

[@HondaTurboToys]

Seriously... a Titan 2022 vs an Aeron would be a weird comparison I'd watch 😂

[@BeingBOTisCareer]

The reclining mechanism broke in my Titan Evo 2022 after 1 year of use, but Secret Lab sent me a replacement part within 2 days. Definitely worth the price. Edit: I just noticed that the lumbar support is not moving up or down :( .

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Oops, contact them they should take care of you

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

I am looking at buying a new chair for my miniature painting. I have broken 3 chairs over the last 4 years, all failed in the same way: the hole that the piston fits in on the tilt mechanism, I snap the metal and the welds around that hole. I am a body builder, I weigh almost 18 stone/114kg/251lbs so I need a strong chair, but I can't find any information regarding whether there is reinforcement around the problem area on Secretlabs XL chairs. Their chat wasn't much help, either. They told me that the piston is heavier duty compared to their regular chair, but I don't have any problems with the piston itself, just where it fits into the tilt mechanism. I'm not sure whether it is worth spending almost £600 on the chair if all they upgrade is the piston.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

While I don't weigh as much as you what I can say is through my personal experience owning multiple chairs and all the complaints I've ever seen online, I've never seen anyone have your specific problem with the tilt mechanism. If I were a betting man I'd say you should be safe but of course there's no real way to know except to try it out. Should you decide to buy I'd appreciate you using my link. Let me know if have more questions.

[@shawnadams1965]

I'm "upgrading" from my 6 year-old DXRacer Wide, which is finally starting to fall apart after a ton of hard use, to the Titan EVO 2022 XL. Your review helped me make my decision easier. I could have went with another DXRacer, but I need the extra lumbar support after breaking my back a few year ago in an accident.

[@jafdell]

1 month review?

[@Saucey65]

how's it been treating you since? Did you size up or down based on this video?

[@shawnadams1965]

@@Saucey65 I really like it, the lumbar support has done a good job of keeping my back pain in control

[@shawnadams1965]

And I went large

[@daddysenpai681]

How do you "hard use" a chair?

[@wireddarkmaster1]

I have a softweave Titan from 2019. And honestly its the best chair I've ever had. Still feels brand new, and my girlfriend even wants to steal it from me for her work lol.

[@zachfife7907]

Love your reviews, the softweave is the selling point for me. Got that ordered with the Magnus Pro XL, and now comes the waiting. As I'm typing this, I'm realizing that I have in fact, not done any review research on the Pro XL. Are you planning on doing one?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Already did! Check my recent vids

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

I found the GTRacing chair as good for hundreds less and no shipping delays! Can buy 3 GTRacing chairs for price of one SecretLabs chair. Rather get a Hermann Miller Aeron if paying that much scratch!

[@benjamincvcvcv7]

You arnt supposed to have the chair fully down, raise it ever so slightly so that its cushioned on the piston

[@John_1920]

03:35 This is lack of lubrication on the bolts, a quick unscrewing of the bolts and lubrication of the holes and bolts with WD40 or similar, and the noise should be gone for weeks - if not months - before re-lubing is required.

[@N8TTV_T38]

Top Notch Video.... Bravo!!! And Thank You Helped A Lot

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Glad you found it helpful! Should you decide to buy I’d appreciate you using my link!

[@johannesr6458]

Hello, I have a question about the lumbar support on the XL and the regular model and it's possibility to adjust it. 🙂 I am relatively tall (6'4 / 193 cm), I could easily take the Titan Evo XL, but I would prefer the "regular", because I have very narrow shoulders and the armrests on the XL are too far apart for me. I measured. How far up can the lumbar support be raised on the regular in comparison to the XL? How many inches / cm can I raise to lumbar support higher on the XL, compared to the regular? Do you understand what I mean? I would appreciate a qualified answer. Greetings from Germany 🙂 Johannes

[@johnwicks4936]

I’ve been searching for help with this chair and I thought I would leave a comment about my issue with their chair. I spent a whole career sitting in a vehicle or office chair with no issues. When I retired I bought myself one of these expensive “gaming” chairs for comfort while sitting at my computer for long hours. Since getting this chair I have so far had 3 nasty episodes of an issue called “sit pain”. This is when you start feeling nasty pain in one or more of your sit bones which are connected to the biggest ligaments in your body. Apparently what is causing this is the angle of the seat. The actual seat is tilted back, not flat and is unable to be tilted forward or even flat like an office chair. This puts long term strain on the ligaments as your hips or sit bones are lower than your knees. I’ve been searching everywhere for a solution. Apparently we are not meant to spend long hours in a racing car type seated position. I’m at the point now where I may have to replace the chair.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Sorry to hear that. If you're looking for a new chair that should be comfortable try a Herman Miller Sayl when on sale. Pricy but the most comfortable chair I've ever sat in back in my office days. Chairs are like mattresses so it's hard to know if it's going to work for you without using it day to day. For me the Titan Evo remains my daily chair as it's worked out for me, but again, there is no one chair solution for everyone.

[@micahpowers2614]

I feel like Secretlabs is big enough to let us customize the desk. Like you said, different desktops, colors, etc. and different colors for the chairs too. I see theyve released covers now for the seats so if they released different colors that would be cool. Cheaper than buying a whole new chair and cheaper for them too.

[@toni94tx]

hey jacob, what is your opinion on the armrest? is this fixable?

[@Scepsis_]

Have any of your problems been fixed? Im in college and do a lot of sitting, and really want this chair. I want to make sure it wont break after I buy it.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

All of my problems have been fixed, Secretlab warranty took care of me and replaced all the parts I had issues with. After testing more gaming chairs I still stick with my Secretlab. Should you decide to buy I'd super appreciate you using my link.

[@Scepsis_]

@@JacobDarkOfficial are the fabric wipes worth buying? Or is it better just to try to be clean 😂

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Not in my experience, try and be clean lol

[@Noneya5555]

Any plans to review the new Secretlab Titan Evo NanoGen Edition?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I’m trying and have reached out to Sectetlab about it. I’ll sometimes buy it if I can’t get my hands on it but it’s pretty expensive.

[@Noneya5555]

@JacobDarkOfficial Yeah, it is. Secretlab really should send you one to review, especially given your knowledge of their chairs, and how many you've bought. Good luck to getting one for review! 🍻

[@TurkeyRoo]

Those noises don’t sound very “Titan” like. Perhaps the Secret Lab’s “Ghost” would be a more fitting name.

[@Sessionsjc]

Interesting to talk about quality when only after 1 year of use there are creaks and noises. I've had a cheap office depot chair which granted isn't very comfortable, but has been rock solid for about 3 years and is still in the same condition as when I bought it. The warranty is good, but the best warranty is the one you never have to use. I expect some issues with cheaper chairs, but spending $500+ and having issues...no thanks.

[@CasualXCars]

I was about to purchase this chair, but now, it is a HARD STOP NO... For the price tag this chair comes with, there should be no issues like this - poor workmanship has no place in my expenses, ever...

[@HeddRedd]

Solid review. Thanks for doing this!

[@Garnett.]

Do you think it’s a comfortable chair?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Been using it over a year, yes I do

[@stonecold91]

By far the worst chair i ever had is the titan evo 22. So many issues for the money i paid for this thing. I got the "new" version that is supposed to be rattle free but it does all the noises the video shows. The "fix" is only good for a couple of weeks and then the weird sounds come back. On the other hand, my 6 year old AK racing chair is still going good.

[@AmazonKni]

I was going back and forth on a secret lab and akracing chair. Now through reviews i have gone through so far I may know what I want

[@nithia]

Wow... I have a cheap E-Win chair I paid $300 for almost 10 years ago and everything works fine still just all of the fake leather is falling off and one adjustable arm does not adjust the way it is supposed to anymore.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Secretlab did remedy everything in this video and to this day I've been happy

[@mukundchohan4384]

Is this chair comfortable for someone suffering from neck pain ?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

You should zero issues with neck pain. The pillow is soft and if you don't like it simply don't use it. If you decide to buy I'd super appreciate you using my link

[@mukundchohan4384]

@@JacobDarkOfficial thank you for replying been thinking for ages about getting this chair . Appreciate your reviews it helps a lot

[@mukundchohan4384]

Which material is the best to get the leather one or the soft one ?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

@mukundchohan4384 I feel like the sweet spot is a pu leather chair so if you want a softweave too you can just get a skin

[@maartzfps]

I really need a new chair, my current one is slowly falling apart. I'm actually shocked at the amount of issues Secretlab chairs have considering the price tag, I don't know how or why they're held in such high regard for producing mediocre products...

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

The chair in this video was a first generation. I've since had the replacement softweave and now a leatherette and have been fine with both. After using both I feel like the leatherette is a bit more comfortable and think the key is to buy a leatherette and put a sleeve over it which is what I've done. Got a white Stromtrooper leatherette with a black skin over so I can match any setup I put together. If you decide to buy it helps the channel so much when you use my link

[@SatoriHaddad]

Too many issues for such an expensive product. Anyone has good gaming chair recommendations available in the UK?

[@caldorius]

I did consider getting Titan Evo 22 XL for me but after watching this and reading the comments I’m more and more sure that getting HM Logitech Embody will be a better option in many aspects..

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I have an Embody on the way, couldn't resist the 20% off sale lol, but I'm still within the window to cancel, we'll see what I do, no matter what $1500 is still a tough pill to swallow

[@caldorius]

@@JacobDarkOfficial it is but the health of the back (considering working 8+hrs at desk) is the major factor for me, not the price (which still is veeeery high for where I live and how much I earn monthly).

[@rafasaosin]

This one or the embody Logitech? I’m 6’1 220 LBS and currently game on a arozzi racing style seat and really like it, everyone on Reddit says to steer away from secrtalab and go with the embody but is it really worth the extra cash

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

It's really dependent on your body. I thought Secretlab was too firm so bought an Embody but then didn't like the Embody and went back to Secretlab and use one to this day. If you decide to buy Secretlab I'd appreciate you using my link!

[@rafasaosin]

@@JacobDarkOfficial I’m 6’1 long legs and wide shoulders, and I’m afraid to get the embody and not like it, especially at that price, like I mentioned previously I use a racing style seat and have no back issues. I only game about 2 hours a day with the occasional 6 hours session like 3 times a month

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I'd grab a leatherette Titan Evo and a skin in Regular

[@matthewjbutch]

Super helpful video(s!) on if getting this thing is worth it. Sounds like a yes!

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

It is, literally sitting on one now lol, bonus points should you use my link!

[@matthewjbutch]

@@JacobDarkOfficial I will definitely do that! Already have it the order page up!

[@WalterDeRooij]

No follow up? So I take it the problems weren't solved, even though your chair was still under warranty?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Sorry I didn't realize I never posted the follow up. Check the top comment.

[@WalterDeRooij]

@@JacobDarkOfficial thanks

[@OPCollecting]

Is the cushion for the chair comfortable?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

It's firm so experiences will differ. See my latest Secretlab review of the new Evo Lite for a softer seat.

[@OPCollecting]

@@JacobDarkOfficial Is it comfortable? Or is it too firm? I have a Noble chair and the seat is like a rock lol

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

@@OPCollectingI would say it's comfortable but if you want the softer of the two I'd go for a PU leatherette than add a SKIN over that if you prefer later. I'd appreciate you using my link if you decide to buy!

[@johnsanford3596]

I gotta agree with you on the colors of the Softweave. Black, Cookies & Cream, and then a slew of PASTELS? Really? I want Kryptek Typhon, or a nice royal blue. Maybe something in a rich burgundy. And for the love of God, tone down the branding the chair. Good review btw.

[@CODSITH786]

I just got a replacement backrest, barrier kit and hydraulic piston just after 1 day of waiting! Let’s just see if it does anything.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

1 day! I'm still waiting on the piston lol

[@CODSITH786]

@@JacobDarkOfficial 😂😂 I’m probably gonna use a lubricant on the piston first if the noise doesn’t go away I’ll change it!!

[@-asrial-]

@@CODSITH786 Did the lubricant fix it?

[@no-yj2cf]

I subbed a year ago because of your grillz review. Been watching ever since 🤝

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Dope! I appreciate every sub for sure, thinking of doing a 1 year follow up on the grill as well

[@THE16THPHANTOM]

do wish he had a normal office chair at the same price to compare it with. for +500 that's a lot of problems in one year. and i could probably use it more than 6 hours a day.

[@kajekage9410]

Did the cleaner work?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Not really, slightly at best but the stains were still visible to my eyes. Maybe if I didn't know they were there.

[@kajekage9410]

@@JacobDarkOfficial did you do the wipes or the spray? I just ordered a chair and spray as it was all that was in stock. Do you have any recommendations to help keep it clean. Any kind of treatment that can be done when I first get it to protect it?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

@@kajekage9410 Wipes, honestly if I wanted to preserve a light colored chair I'd just use a skin lol

[@kajekage9410]

@@JacobDarkOfficial I'm starting to think that is the only real consideration. I like the white because my PC is white, and I guess I can do my best to keep it clean and when it gets bad just buy another white skin. But I do wonder if there is a treatment you can do out of the box that will help protect it from stains.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

@@kajekage9410 Possibly, I now have a cookies n cream Evo Lite and try my hardest not to touch it anywhere it doesn't need to be touched too often

[@TheRaydiation]

Since they updated to the evo I just think in a few years they are going to "upgrade" again and move away from the inconsistant pistons- too many moving parts.

[@SchenkinNY]

How about a 2024 update?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

In 2024 I have a Titan Evo Lite and the problems I had in this video were only on that specific chair which was a day 1 release so much like a new game release, once it got patched there haven't been any issues at least in my experience.

[@DxC04]

Just the video I needed to see. This helps my buying decision for sure.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Awesome! That's always the goal, bonus points if you use my link

[@tdub77]

Have you tried the Lambo version???

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I haven't, looks super nice but I'm not really in need of another gaming chair at the moment

[@Sysaphys]

Hey Jaccob I have a question. Your seat, it flares up on the sides. I'm a big guy with wide ass, are those flares hard? Do they dig in or flatten out?

[@YaBoiNemo]

That piston just spray wd40 and your good, idrc bout noise cause i have noice cancellation

[@Azzmelater]

I don’t know. The same people who are talking smack about this chair are the same people who couldn’t afford it in the first place. And are trying to justify why it’s not worth it because they couldn’t afford to buy one in the first place.

[@Shinstuh]

Is the seat too firm or has it broken in nicely? Saw some complaints that the seat was too rough

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Mine has been good from day one. When I had a 2020 Titan it was absolutely too hard, I really think it just depends on the user, but the 2022 is much improved over the 2020, at least in my experience. If you end up buying I'd super appreciate you using my link

[@CashJones.208]

Use degreaser on the piston to fix it

[@AlecSharratt101]

What is it about these chairs that justifies the price tag? They don't look any better or significantly different to ones half their price, they also don't seem higher quality than other gaming chairs. I just don't get where the money is going.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

They're actually built significantly better than most gaming chairs. Most are cheap, lightweight and have a lot of plastic parts, the SL chairs are heavy with quality parts

[@izzZaiah]

How well do the wipes work?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

They're OK though I probably wouldn't use them again on lighter colors

[@CTHESI]

What camera do you use bro

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

R6, check the description I list all my gear

[@tehblueduck]

It’s so confusing watching reviews of this chair

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

If you watch the follow up video (top comment) it shows they ultimately took care of me

[@tatedoh]

titan 2020 feels like im sitting on a wood stool. the base and metal bar under the chair is so bad

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Agreed, that's how it was for me, the 2022 has been much better

[@HVAC_n00b]

@JacobDarkOfficial sooo where did the update video go? It says video was removed by the uploader

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Sorry, I purged videos that weren't performing well and might have deleted that one by accident. Quick version: Secretlab took care of me and sent replacement parts for the whole chair basically giving me a new chair. Happy user to this day.

[@shiloh795]

what a great voice, love listening! keep up the great content!

[@asdf1234_.]

I want to see someone compare this to the Secret Labs NeueChair which is a hybrid design of an office chair and gaming chair

[@EyeWhiplash]

WOW an amazing chair if you like sitting on concrete for 8 hours. also if you have a pacemaker or an ICD they might just kill you. good luck

[@ozancakir7493]

My titan xl 2020 just completely broke from the metal base 😭

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Oh man, reach out to support!

[@gamiiee]

what did support end up saying?

[@jyoung5415]

Has secret lab got back to you regarding the squeaking? My biggest pet perv! Looking to buy one but scared it's gonna squeak!

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Yes they have! Replacement parts are on the way, I plan to do a follow up video once it's all said and done

[@pvtpain66k]

8:30 dear god, please stop. I don't need a new desk!

[@ethand7851]

I got a question I have a respawn gaming chair and after probably a month the seat is completely hard. I don’t want to buy a chair that will become hard as a rock after a few months so sense you have had it for a year how has the seat cushion been?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I posted a follow up video to this one and in the end Secretlab replaced all the problem parts so my chair is like new. Even then the chair lasted the entire year just fine without losing any cushion, I'll think you'll be good, if you end up ordering I'd super appreciate you using my link!

[@ethand7851]

Alright thank you

[@gibreezy]

Debating if I want to drop $700+ on this right now. Including the padded arm rests

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

If you do I'd super appreciate you using my link!

[@MyDarkImpulse]

What color way is this?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Arctic White

[@pehlim1381]

is the lumbar useful ?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I think so, it's helped me in the past when I had back issues

[@pehlim1381]

@@JacobDarkOfficial thank u .

[@ashton6866]

Great, but anyway to get more than the $30 discount :-))) ??????

[@kuposceptre]

I got the titan stark and although it is very durable i had it like 2 years and no tearing etc, Like really it still looks new but it is the worse thing to sit on i ever experienced, It is like sitting on a table , I had to buy a memory foam cussion to sit on so keep that in mind it is very firm. I would not be buying another one that is for sure.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Thanks for your feedback, you know after owning a few, it's almost like some seats are harder than others...

[@kuposceptre]

@@JacobDarkOfficial I dunno it seems a lot of people complain about this issue with the seats being rock solid. I can only go of the one i use and its terrible but there is a truck loads of people complaining about the same issue.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

@@kuposceptre Oh for sure, the very first Secretlab video I ever did was on a 2020 version and it was a total negative review as that chair was like sitting on wood. It absolutely destroyed my glutes and low back.

[@tobiasvanderkaa3536]

i never had the sound problems on my 1 year old 2021

[@brunognoato8016]

Good review

[@Equinox_NZ]

I feel like the piston squeaking could be fixed with just a little wd40 or crc

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Tried wd40, didn't work but they took care of me in the end as posted in the follow up video

[@Equinox_NZ]

@JacobDarkOfficial ah yep I was too tired last night to watch it, although I did end up ordering the chair for myself :)

[@brandonwilliams7236]

I just bought me one last week

[@jheffernan13]

This just convinced me to avoid this. Thanks!

[@ordinarypeople801]

Some of my notes after having one (without too much explanation): 1) assembly is not that easy (not hard either) 2) one of the worst armrests on the market - literally everything about them 3) lumbar support is so hard, it actually hurts my back more; also it is too high; it should be called "high back" support, not "low back" support; probably that's why Secretlab are selling a separate low back support :) 4) seat is super hard 5) the chair is very heavy and doesn't roll around easy, so if you move a lot - sorryyyy :/ JOKE: the packaging is better engineered than the chair. :)

[@PraanKz]

I agree, my titan is absolute garbage

[@Itsrymo]

The lumbar support literally has a y axis adjustment lol. Maybe your just too small

[@ordinarypeople801]

@@Itsrymo 181cm, 95kg

[@ordinarypeople801]

@@PraanKz Finally, a person with a healthy mind. :)

[@DethNade]

Was about to buy one but it looks like it another over price chair.