SecretLab Titan Evo (2023 Review) - Overhyped Overpriced Overrated (Gaming Chair)

SecretLab Titan Evo (2023 Review) - Overhyped Overpriced Overrated (Gaming Chair)
Today I'm reviewing the Secretlab Titan Evo 2022 2023 Regular (but you can also get it in Small and XL) and my experience with Secretlab and its policies. This applies heavily to potential gamers in the EU.
Overall the experience was frustrating and nowhere near the "premium" idea that Secretlab sold me on.
Update:
It's been over 30 days and Secretlab has yet to deliver to me the "barrier kit" that was supposed to resolve some of the noise issues.
I had to re-message them and after that they sent a package through DHL but asking me to pay Customs & Import Tax.
Naturally, I refused the package.
This has prompted Secretlabs to refuse to send me the barrier kit unless I pay the import and Customs fees, claiming they will reimburse me afterwards. Given how Secretlabs treats their costumers and their rigid policies I'm more than reluctant to trust them and I have refused. Thus I still have a defective product.
While the story is getting more and more ridiculous they did deliver the rest of the warranty components they deemed as defective.
Update 2:
Secretlab has contacted me via a message in this comment section, insisting I pay the taxes and take possession of their "barrier kit".
I no longer have any interest in this product or in interacting with Secretlab and have put the chair up for sale on the used market. Hopefully I'll be able to sell it at a minimal loss and be done with this whole story.
Update 3 (approx. 4 months after the initial purchase)
Chair has developed another problem, it makes loud creaking noises coming from the lumbar support when you sit back in it unless you fully tension the lumbar.
Three people came and saw the chair but none wanted to buy it after testing it.
Update 4: Sold for 450euro. (Acquisition price was 530e)
Took around 5 months to sell but I still lost less than if I was to return it to Secretlabs.
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Update: It's been over 30 days and Secretlab has yet to deliver to me the "barrier kit" that was supposed to resolve some of the noise issues. I had to re-message them and after that they sent a package through DHL but asking me to pay Customs & Import Tax. Naturally, I refused the package. This has prompted Secretlabs to refuse to send me the barrier kit unless I pay the import and Customs fees, claiming they will reimburse me afterwards. Given how Secretlabs treats their costumers and their rigid policies I'm more than reluctant to trust them and I have refused. Thus, I still have a defective product. While the story is getting more and more ridiculous they did deliver the rest of the warranty components they deemed as defective. Update 2: Secretlab has contacted me via a message in this comment section, insisting I pay the taxes and take possession of their "barrier kit". I no longer have any interest in this product or in interacting with Secretlab and have put the chair up for sale on the used market. Hopefully I'll be able to sell it at a minimal loss and be done with this whole story. Update 3 (approx. 4 months after the initial purchase) Chair has developed another problem, it makes loud creaking noises coming from the lumbar support when you sit back in it unless you fully tension the lumbar. Three people came and saw the chair but none wanted to buy it after testing it. Update 4: Sold for 450euro. (Acquisition price was 530e) Took around 5 months to sell but I still lost less than if I was to return it to Secretlabs.

Must say I find it amazingly stupid by a company to continue causing issues for you after a video clip like this one. What they should have done already from start is making sure you got all your issues sorted very quickly at no cost in combination with their excuses for the bad experience you had with their product. That way, you would probably have had a totally different story to tell us and certainly a more positive one. Where the money they would have spent on making you a happy customer would have been a fraction compared to what they risk loosing in sales after people watch clips such as this one. I honestly feel sorry for them they don't see this themselves. Which of course also goes for any other company with the same attitude. I guess it all comes down to what league you want to play in as a company, with the pro guys or with the less pro guys.

[@otpwo4387]

What chair are you using right now ? I'm not sure to take the secret lab now :D what about the razer iskur ?

[@admmakon]

I ordered Titan Evo from Secretlab about week and half ago and then I found your video clip. I wasn't sure what to think about my order and was afraid of outcome. Must say I received the package in good condition (not like your one) and the chair itself does't have any of the issues you pointed out. Don't know now if I'm lucky or you are not if it comest to this product. Anyway... I ordered two products form SL. This chair and their desk. I placed both orders the same time and I received chair only. Still waiting for the desk. Contacted customer support regarding my second order and my experience with them is quite bad, so I must agree that is not serious having so low quaility of services for so expensive and so promoted products.

[@kajekage9410]

@@admmakonWhat was bad though? No one at my company has had any known issues.

[@Syubul]

@@rayquazahere8529 can i know the other brand that this video is comparing?

[@youtslayer]

Thank you for this video. I was strongly considering this chair because one of my colleagues recommended it. But after watching this I'm definitely going another direction. Hoping all your issues will be resolved in the end.

[@flowerpower1468]

Same here! 😮

[@CaptainUrahara]

Not even a riven is saving this chair.

[@leavemealone6960]

I'm coming up on needing a new chair before too much longer so these videos are definitely useful to me. Thanks for the top notch content both in and out of game 👍

[@LeyzarGamingViews]

Glad it was helpful!

[@damatnajat2560]

@@LeyzarGamingViews what is your height im 173 cm hestatie between small or regular ?

[@MaskedOG]

Good lord saved me the trouble of buying a Chair from them. Thank You. I would have been so disapointed with this chair. hope you can sell it well!

[@mdtaylor2274]

You and all the people who’ve commented just saved me from a major headache. Thanks for your video 👍

[@GoatzombieBubba]

It is because he got the wrong chair size from them.

[@JustSomeDude31]

I had an AKRacing gaming chair before, the PU leather started to peel after about 4 years. Beside that the chair was pretty okay, not the most comfortable chair but after using a few other non-gaming chairs definitely not the worst either. I'm thinking to get back to a gaming-type brand because I liked the backrest tilt the AKRacing one had and most gaming chairs seem to have the same. The biggest issue with the gaming-chairs I have though, is that the seating and the back cushioning is too firm/hard to my taste. I prefer a pillowy kind of seating and back rest.

[@mikejones-nd6ni]

Check out the Noblerocker Mars. It's the same thing as a Secretlab Titan XL but not Overpriced

[@GtheMVP]

I bought the Akracing max chair. It's meant for big/heavy people, but it works great as im only 5'8 and a half. You can adjust the width of the armrests where you attach them under the chair. You get a nice wide and comfy, but firm enough seat (cushion doesnt sink to the metal). You can sit ergonomically, but with tje wider seat you can also sit cross legged if you're smaller like me. It's the best chair I've ever owned, next to my Hermon Miller Aeron at work. I prefer my Akracing max, just because I can lounge it (H Miller far better for work). I've sat in it for hours and hours either working or playing games.

[@ERBanmech]

I had to do a lot of searching for my chair, I have a particular amount of desk clearance so the seat had to fit the aperture of the desk so I could move it in properly. Secondly it needed to be a mesh back since I’m a human heater and need the breathable surface to keep me cool. The one I got fits all those but the seat isn’t the most comfortable fortunately that is fixable with a cushion.

[@monkaeyes3417]

I got the SecretLab Omega back in 2019, got the softweave. It was really good, a much better price than what they sell them for these days, and it will probably last me a very very long time. On the other hand, these new Titan EVO ones seem to me to be the product of a company having a name that's too popular. They can afford to skimp out on quality because people are buying their products anyway. Its like any big name like Supreme or Apple, their name is what they sell now, not the quality products. Most people can see that a supreme t-shirt is too expensive for what it is, and same with iPhones. These chairs are the same deal. They are nice, they are pretty and quite comfortable. But do they need that price tag? no not really. And do they need to care when one gets shipped out in the state that yours is in? no because people will buy them anyway. So thanks for making this video. Hopefully it can help towards bringing some change.

[@TheMillionDollarDropout]

I got the 2020 version of the Titan and damn, the softweave just LOOKS way better than what I just saw now on their website lmao. I'm glad I sold mine though, It's not a long-term-use thing. The seat was hard on my ass and for the price even then, it wasn't really worth it. IMO. Learned my lesson quickly man. Gaming Chair doesn't equate to Quality. You pay more for the style than the actual function/quality. I'm sitting at a computer while gaming, I need a Computer Chair.

[@accidentalfart-em5qd]

Remember you need to Forma 5 times to get the full potential from the chair, but 2-3 forma is fine.

[@mcitp7596]

Thank you for this video, it was really helpful for me to decide which chair to buy. For me, a good after sale support is the most important fact, because any product from any brand might be faulty.

[@sharpe34]

5 Years ago, I bought a "Big and Tall" Serta office chair for about 300 dollars US, delivered. I am a short, fat old man who plays hours of games every week. My chair is my cats favorite claw sharpening toy. It's leather, and after all this time all I ever did to it other than casual maintenance ( tightening bolts, wiping off cat drool) is add a seat cushion. Lets face it chair is rated up to 500 pounds but a 280 pound man sitting in it for 5 years will destroy any cushion. MY sons all do the "Gaming chair" buying, and have both gone through several while my Serta rocks on. May wanna cut your losses and look into it, or sneak us the kind of chair your lovely wife has so we can get one of those when we upgrade.

[@xjohnny1000]

I bought that same chair and while it was comfortable, the minimum height of the chair was still too high and put pressure on my legs. I'm curious how you dealt with that.

[@sharpe34]

@@xjohnny1000 I actually have a foot rest a 3 dollar Wal-Mart plastic piece of crap I rest my feet on. Also I reinforced the horizontal stabilizer bar of my computer desk and put a pool noodle wrapped with duct tape on the bar to rest my feet on. (The duct tape is to keep the cats from tearing it to shreds.)

[@user-cm2jl8dy9k]

You just saved me form ordering it. If the stitching is ok from there part and that bad assembly of the mekanism. It is not a premium product anymore. And its 608 euro (with shipping fee) no way... so im back to square one what chair should i buy.

[@Brandon-cs8gw]

I bought a 2019 Omega Softweave back in 2019, several months before the pandemic, & after I quit my job. I sat in it for hours & hours for several years now, nothing wrong with it, but I made a mistake & bought a Titan 2020 during Black Friday. I was working my ass off that year because I was building my first custom setup & custom cooled rig after my shit experience with a prebuilt from Digital Storm. I've sat in this Titan for maybe a year at most, & it's literally been the worse experience of my life... First of all after several months I discovered the backrest wasn't aligned with the seatrest, so that's probably why my right side of my back started killing me, if I sat in the chair for more than a few hours a day. I reported it to Secretlab, & omg I kid you not... These people act like their chairs are perfect. Your 5 year warranty means nothing to these people. They'll get you to show multiple photos & videos before okaying a replacment, & then they also try to get you to believe that there's nothing wrong with your chair Apparently all of the defects are normal. It's ridiculous! I gave up, & then several months later the left PU armrest started splitting at the back for no reason. I barely put my elbow there. Anyway, I was like, yeah this chair isn't holding up & is defective, so I contacted them again. After pushing hard enough they sent me some replacement parts. The tilt mechanism was sent to me live-loaded without being fastened, & then the left armet pad was the wrong size. Figures! I contacted them again saying I discovered why the backrest wasn't aligned. Secretlab made one side of the backrest fixed, so you can't move it once you slide it into the grooves for the tilt mechanism. It leaves about a 2 inch gap, & it won't move or budge unless I took an angle grinder & sawed off the welded joints on the right side of the chair, so I can have some movement to align the backrest with the seatrest on both sides. After pointing this out they sent me an entirely new left armrest & backrest for my chair Well, I never bothered with it, so I tried selling the chair locally. After many lowball offers later, I went to try all of the parts to see if it would make much of a difference, & I even made several measurements to see if sawing off those joints would fix the issue. Nope... The new backrest is exactly the same, & after doing the math. It wouldn't make a difference because the seatrest isn't made properly. After taking off the old backrest, I made a whole new discovery! The entire leather portion of the seatrest has given out. It flaps like a bitch now. I couldn't believe it! I could even pull it with my fingers. It's almost like whoever wrapped the leather didn't use enough fasteners to make sure that it wouldn't move. I couldn't sell the chair after the discovery. No way I'm selling that crap to someone else! I contacted Secretlab for a return request & refund. They declined my offer & we started the whole troubleshooting process over again... I eventually went online to dig deep on where their US base is to see if I can call in to threaten for legal action against them. If I'm not mistaken. This past month they went completely in the dark. They removed their US based phone support, & their US warehouse is now a Red Stag fulfillment center. This is clear sign that they started dropshipping from a cheaper plant in China. Their 2020-2023 models are all junk compared to their older models I hope more people watch this video & read all of the negative reviews because most of their reviews are bots. Avoid Secretlab like the plague. Overpriced chairs with lowend parts. Their softweave models are good, but that's it. Just the fabric. Their leather products are crap. Whatever happened in 2020 made this company start cutting costs & then increased their prices. Some people haven't even gotten their desks yet~

[@johnwicks4936]

I have had absolutely no quality issues so far with my SecretLabs chair. It is 3 years old and still looks like new. My issue with the chair is that since purchasing it and spending long periods of time in it I have developed an issue called “sit bone pain”. The problem with this chair is that it like many other gaming chairs are modelled after race car seats. The actual seat leans back and is not flat and it can not be tilted forward like most office chairs. This position over long term causes excessive stress on the largest ligaments of your body joining the legs to the sit bones due to your hips or sit bones being in a lower position than your knees. This medical issue is widespread, you can look it up on KZbin but I never suffered from this issue until I bought this expensive chair. So far I have found no solution and may have to replace the chair.

[@billy.the.maker.]

For people who have no back pain sitting in car THIS CHAIR IS PERFECT!

[@xrobee5374]

Thanks for the video, I was just about to purchase 2 chairs During their Black Friday sales, you changed my mind

[@elpistolero82]

I was actually going to buy a Secretlab chair to replace my current chair. This video has made me reconsider. Thanks for the review.

[@SpoopyWhite]

I bought one

[@KandiSAI]

I have a Titan Evo from Secret labs. Both fabric and leather. 4 years later and they are still holding up with no odors or any sign of damage. To this day, these chairs are the most comfortable I've ever bought. I sit in them for 12+ hours a day. Just because someone had a bad experience and have personal opinions on a product doesn't mean it dictates what the product represents. They are pricy for what they are worth but they truly are something to have especially for long sitting days!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Hermann Miller Aeron chair are my favorite chair but are super expensive at close to 2k!@@KandiSAI

[@KandiSAI]

I was actually looking to buy one as well. Yes, the price was my turn away. @@GuitarsAndSynths

[@GoatzombieBubba]

@@GuitarsAndSynthsHermann Miller brand is for Offices to get the employees to sit straight and type all day and never get too comfortable.

[@fabianmaryanowski2252]

Hey Leyzar, thx for the vid, comes 5 years too late for me cause I have almost all the same issues! The seames are as misaligned as on your chair, parts did not fit when delivered, tilting mechanics....dont get me started. At least mine is silent. Overall a 100% crappy expierence fpr A LOT of money. I bought a black Omega chair during a discount, still payed 300-400 euros back than. And if you are unsattisfied now wait until the peeling starts! Mine looks like crap and its almost unused because I own 2 flats for work reasons and in those 5 years that chair was in use for maybe 1,5 years. I have no idea how they get those reviews, its not from quality in my expierence. Maybe people are clueless how quality should look like for this kind of money?

[@GearInfernoofficial]

What chair did you use before?

[@antondogadailo6991]

I was considering buying Secret Lab so thanks for breaking down some important things to note. Any other suggestions for the gaming chairs except Secret Lab?

[@KleinMeme]

Short (long time) story: Bought my Titan Evo 2022 Softweave last year in June. Assembly was easy, nice quality i guess. It smelled like a chemical factory for weeks and i wasn't able to use it in my room. I got headaches from it so i placed it in a nearby room to rest. I heated it with a hairdryer every day after the smell didn't went away. After that it went better every day till no smell left. Now nearly a year into it... I got bladder pain syndrome, oversensitivity, numbness in my tailbone, restless leg syndrome symptomes (tingling in my legs) sometimes... for MONTHS. I went from Doc to Doc. Nothing found, no bacteria. Till someone mentioned per coincidence if i sit a lot. I told that i do, that i got a new chair. Well... guess what. This garbage concrete chair seems to have my nerves compressed. Now i have a nice way to neuroligists, chiropractor and others to fix what this chair did over months. And before someone asks: I can reproduce the symptomes now i know were it came from by changing how i sat on it, what pillow i used and also had no symptomes when sleeping and got better when i was walking around and was staying (I can sleep well, not like with a real infection.) Sitting made and makes it worse on the other side. It happened over a period of a few months (~3-4 months). I got a pillow and even that didn't help much. I went through "hell" with the pain, the always persistent need to pee with an empty bladder because all the nerves were and still are completely fucked. The lumbar support is a joke. I needed to press my butt back to feel SOMEthing about it. No matter how much i adjust it. And it is HARD as hell. I don't weight much. About 65kg and that weight is way to low for that "cussion" they use it seems. Not much "pillow" substance on my rear as well what made it even worse. I read it needs to "sit in", so i believed them. Without knowing that i hurt myself for longtime... i was naive and stupid because of the marketing and everyone said these are awesome chairs. I wanted to believe it and maybe also pushed away the thought that i bought a bad product. They are NOT good. They are a danger to health for some people in my opinion. I guess lower weight people are wrong with that chair. This went so far that i'm not able to fullfill my job anymore properly because that pain comes and goes till my nerves are healed again. Thanks Secretlabs. Yes of course... it is also my fault. I know that... as i said. I was naive and stupid... it is a lesson i had to learn the literal hard way. I regret that decision so much... months not knowing what was going on, one walk to a doc to another. Just to get told that my chair fu****ed up my nerves down there so much that i got these hell of a ride of symptomes. It won't happen to everyone but it did in my case. Some others told about numbness in their theighs, also tailbone, buttcheeks and other similar problems. Even backpain despite it should work against it.

[@karmentolable]

no because I'm plus size and I got a titan XL and I am having leg pain daily from sitting on this chair (I work from home), so its not just skinny people suffering, its just not comfortable and not to mention that it squeaks and is very wobbly!!!

[@KleinMeme]

@@karmentolable Yah, i had a chair before without headrest. That's mostly why i bought it... also because so many reviews told it was nice... i feel so naive and stupid. It worries me that so many tell a similar story sitting on these chairs. My old chair moved with me (the company called it "natural movement"). It moved with you, it buffered your movement. I really regret it that i sold it. I may get one of them again, but just with a headrest now. And sell that piece of garbage from Secret Labs that gave me months of pain, Doc appointments, depressions even because i didn't knew what was going on. Screw them. It's awefull and even dangerous when you sit in it long enough to permanently damage your nerves even because they tell you to "break it in"... no words for that.

[@bakermiaz]

That is interesting because I had similar health problems from my old chairs. I went though about 3 or 4 different chairs always same problem. I had lower back, upper leg and bottom pain that actually got rather severe at one stage where I just couldn't sit at all for long periods. Went to DRs had scans they found nothing then I thought about maybe its the chair and my posture. It was this reason I got a secretlabs chair late in 2019 and although I didn't like the firmness at first I have to say It has been be far my favourite chair and all the pains and problems I had have gone away.

[@karmentolable]

@@Pablo-007 idk if you were asking me but Im 1.68cm and my feet do touch the ground on the lowest setting

[@colinreeter777]

Blaming secret lab for unemployment and complications from being a sedentary degenerate for months on end…. LOL!

[@Jambon_Emmental]

Really helpful video thank you. Btw, you have a great accent :-)

[@jasonmc6997]

I'm really glad I bought a Razer Iskur XL for my big old self. I had an issue with a broken weld on the seat base where the hydraulic piston connects and Razer was more than accommodating in sending a warranty replacement.

[@GoatzombieBubba]

You need a Secretlab Titan Evo size XL it is better then Razer.

[@oBCHANo]

I got a titan evo too and the chair arm leather has fallen apart literally 4 times now, on both arms each time. They've replaced them every time without question despite them saying this sort of thing is wear and tear and not covered. It's a constant problem even with the newest models, and their no questions replacement seems to suggest they know it, it's probably why they have magnetic arm rests now. Also the cloth version at least is hard as a rock, a genuinely terrible chair. If you can afford a secretlabs chair you can afford a reasonably high end office chair, which will be a hundred times more comfortable because an office chair being comfortable literally increases performance, companies have a vested interest in making those chairs good.

[@illusiondee]

thank you for your honest review and experience, we definitely need more of these. i've been seeing all these post on reddit about their chairs from peolpe who wants the extra warranty but if you think about it, if a company makes people do this for marketing and free advertising you know something isn't right. this video gives me another reason why i should not be buying secret lab chairs and should just look elsewhere

[@DethNade]

that's true and after a month watching videos in the return policies in the warranties it looks like they're another typical cheap scamming website.

[@GySgt_USMC_Ret.]

Thanks for the video! (An E-Win ad popped up while watching this.) I've been researching gaming chairs for many months. Looks like I need to continue the search. Fair winds and following seas to all.

[@Kahrak]

As a regretful owner of one of these chairs, your armrests will last about a month before they start cracking and falling apart.

[@ordinarygames7509]

I bought a local and cheap gaming chair. The arm rests start wobble in a few months of use. I'm thinking to buy SecretLab's chair hoping that it might last forever. But then I read your comment. Thanks for the info!

[@joem8601]

@@ordinarygames7509 They all wobble left and right. They're all made in China for less than $100, even Secretlab.

[@omaralejandroramirez8209]

what do you think about corsair chairs?

[@joem8601]

I'm considering getting this chair on Alibaba. Is the black part of the chair (the trim) made of PU leather or is it cloth?

[@AD1deez]

This chair isn’t on Ali baba n🤡

[@joem8601]

@@AD1deez search “gaming chair magnetic pillow”, be creative n🤡

[@joem8601]

Got the chair, it’s cloth

[@AD1deez]

@@joem8601 Ali baba 🥸

[@Jemba8D]

Back then I was torn between Secret Labs and Vertagear and ended up buying a Secret Labs Titan because of all the positive reviews and hype. Bought it in February 2018 for 379€ and it is one of my biggest regrets. At first I didn't find the chair that comfortable and I still find myself reajdusting my sitting position every 30 mins because my back starts to hurt. The worst part has been the "leather". It has peeled heavily on the front half of the seat, where the front half of your thighs rest, and is starting to peel where your back rests aswell. The armrests are not soft at all, to the point where your arms start to become numb from the pressure on your elbow nerves. Also the left armrest has developed a 15 cm gash on the rubber, on the inner side. The adjustment positions of the armrests are not equal between them, to the point where one of them sits slightly higher and forward than the other. The back does not sit symmetrically or perpendicularly on the base, and neither do the armrests. That being said, the unboxing experience was normal for me, everything came well packed and the product did not have any noticeable flaws. The stitching is perfectly done throughout all the chair. But apparently, after 5 years, not only has the price gone up, but after watching this video, it seems their QC has suffered significantly. I would not recommend Secret Labs to anyone :/

[@yilongli3035]

Bought the chair in 2018 as well, has similar issues as yours, terrible quality and i am looking for new chair now and will definitely not repeat my mistake again

[@RevanPorkins]

Thats insane to me in have a 100 dollar knock off chair and it still looks brand new l

[@adriancobaschi8510]

I'm also in Europe and it's sad to see what you experienced with this company. Was reaaaallly into this chair. What a sad day it would be to pay so much for a chair and have wide gaps and misalignment in their parts when you receive it.. Not only that was planning to get this chair to give as a gift. I cannot give such terrible quality as a gift to someone close. It seems to me that that pick and choose who gets best quality control chair (big youtubers) and who gets low quality control chairs (you and me, the customer). Glad I watched your video man

[@alianjum3802]

Hi which chair did u refer to in comparison anyone know?

[@webnplay]

It looks like Hero Black/Platinum Wite, Synthetic leather, from Noblechairs

[@ShinAlive]

That's very unfortunate, but thanks for making the video. I have some friends who are considering SecretLab as an upgrade for their existing chairs, so I'll send them your video. One would really expect a lot more from one of the most expensive brands and it would be a crying shame if they ended up like this. The squeaky sound is usually one of the reasons people want to upgrade in the first place...

[@fredrichvilaga9931]

I returned mine as well! same issues!

[@leonidasking2988]

Is the Hero chair a better choice ?

[@NiteSkyLookr]

I've been a Service Tech for a Steelcase dealer for 23yrs and have seen and repaired more chairs than most will ever see let alone sit in. A lot of chairs I see out there from Amazon, Office Depot, Sams to the big Companys like Steelcase, Herman Miller, Knoll, Sit-On-It, Hayworth, etc...many go by looks ignoring the other crucial parts...which is what and how the chair frame is built...composite, plywood bottom, etc...and the Chair Control which s the foundation. I've seen plenty Amazing Looking Chairs with some cheesy $80 Dollar Chair Control. And chairs with Plywood Bottoms...be careful as the wood will react over time and "could" start creaking or breaking.....another area you really need to be sure of...Warranty, parts covered and labor. Steelcase and other Big Names have like a 12yr Warranty that almost covers majority of the chair and about everything can be fixed/replaced....Base, casters, Cyliner, Arm Caps, Chair, Control, etc...

[@LeyzarGamingViews]

Very well, what would you recommend than?

[@sergeiram9303]

Which one is a good chair? For big and Tall

[@nikkolaus]

We have some Sit-On-It chairs at work.... It's been 3 years that I've been there, and with just 3 workstations in the office, we've gone through 3 chairs, with a fourth on its way out. They are comfortable as hell, but once theyre around for a bit they start to just crumble.

[@FBIMitch]

Very useful video, I was about to order a Witcher Edition chair but I'm going for an other brand, the quality is simply not worth the price. Thanks

[@marcelikosinski]

I’m looking for a chair ;) what is the other brand if you can share it with us? Thanks M

[@syrostrom]

Thank you for this video and for some of the comments by other users, i was thinking about this chair but your experience made me look in the cooments and Razer Iskur XL fabric looks like a good alternative to a better price at the moment.

[@LeyzarGamingViews]

To be frank that one is kinda iffy as-well. Do yourself a favor and get a higher end office chair.

[@syrostrom]

@@LeyzarGamingViews i will try to look that direction but most office chairs i can find with his load ability is in pu leather -.- i kinda want fabric instead. but ty for the advise!

[@sergeiram9303]

@@LeyzarGamingViews Thank you for the video. BTW, what chair do you recommend for tall and big?

[@littlepieceofwall]

That's a rather unpleasant experience with such an expensive chair. You would think the company would try harder if they want to keep a good name. I hope they change their policies and offer you replacement parts for everything that's broken, misaligned or ugly stitching, free of shipping cost.

[@DemoNkrd1]

tell me now the name of black chair on your video. i like it and probaby will get one of these

[@scarykids7840]

I’m sorry your build was not that high of quality on arrival. There has also been talk of scammers swapping the chairs out during transit. To the point that on the titan they put a security tag on them. I have a titan ego and the build is literal perfection (Canada) thank you for sharing good video.

[@zhongshengzhongsheng8996]

anyone knows what the other brand is?

[@jj-oo6oi]

Dude my ass hurts after sitting on this chair..

[@Laurenelizo]

I am buying one if these soon in XL. Do you think they’ve fixed all of the issues? I hope they fixed yours and I hope they no longer squeak as I will be sending it back!!

[@shawn1869]

Did you buy one? Do you regret it yet?

[@Laurenelizo]

@@shawn1869 thats funny you just commented because it arrived today and I am sitting in it after assembling it and getting ready to nap in it because the way to tilts back and then another lever to sink it back has got me feeling like I’m in a hammock its a dream..lol! So far so happy and not squeaky issues or anything on my one. I’m a 5ft 6 female 180lbs and I got a XL after watching a KZbin review of girls trying every size of the chair and 3 out of 4 of them all chose the XL even though it’s not their recommended size.

[@Laurenelizo]

@@shawn1869 I got it in Ash grey leatherette because Black leatherette was out of stock and I’m happy with the choice. I just hope it keeps clean over time.

[@Laurenelizo]

@@shawn1869 Ash is between grey and white. I was going for a white look anyway as I have an all white PC setup

[@shawn1869]

@@Laurenelizo great, I'm glad you like it. Mine destroyed my lower back for almost 2 years. I had to sell it and buy a lazy boy. Keep me posted on how it feels in a couple days. Watch for that low back pain, it creeps up on you in about a week or two.

[@gediminasjurkstas1507]

Huge thanks for helping on my decision. Went for Steelcase

[@puppetzinc1]

ahhaah, waaay more expensive than this...

[@GGGomes06]

Very good video. I was about to buy one and just changed my mind. Thanks!

[@Skyrage01]

Bought one a few years ago. Quite comfortable. Quality however was beyond shit as it started to fall apart only after a couple of years. My verdict: Secret Labs will never EVER get money from me again.

[@Dutch_Pancake]

Now I'm curious to which brand that other chair is from. It looks like an SL chair, but better. :P

[@mrowoofers101]

Well, seeing customer service, I'm certainly not gonna give these guys a dime.

[@robchatc]

I think you got a box full of spare parts. That's why it wasn't sealed properly.

[@omaralejandroramirez8209]

you really got some high standards sir. but i understand the point on being sitting on a 1k euro chair must be as perfect as possible. good review this kind of details you talk about is what most people are looking for when seeking for references before buying one

[@hydra475]

Name of that other premium gaming chair??????

[@Isendure]

Buy an ergonomic ("office") chair instead of popularising the gaming chars - you only have one spine and you should take care of it accordingly.

[@LeyzarGamingViews]

tested plenty, was always displeased with office ergo chairs

[@audiojunkie5435]

I feel for the person who bought it from you :'). You never know how good a brand is until you have issues and only then can you judge from their willingness to solve them. They won't be getting my money that's for sure...

[@rocketshipchris5875]

I have the softweave plus charcoal blue chair and it’s amazing

[@briansobers3402]

leyzer whats up,lookng good bro.

[@potatoracer6137]

Was going through reviews before I get secretlab chair for my son, but I think I will just get a ergonomic chair

[@mattthesmoosh8707]

Can i ask what chair is your wife using? I recently bought a diablo chair and it's really bad and crooked. The obvious choice was splurge a bit more and buy a secret lab, but this time i'm trying to get all possible feedback on the products before i buy them. it's not looking very good for SL, so i'm trying to find alternatives

[@bongobob7079]

Its a noblechair I believe the model is the "hero" I currently use one myself but am upgrading to a herman miller aeron. Be careful of "gaming chairs" most are over priced rubbish

[@lykonus2447]

thank you for just saving my life brother!

[@21agdmnm]

Thanks, saved me 400 euros :) Gonna look for something else

[@dragonxx444]

I really wonder what the other chair is

[@jorgeborges6932]

One question after these months of use, do you advise me to buy it? Does it require a lot of cleaning? Does it get dirty or stained easily?

[@MyMike004]

I didn't get deliver anything from secretlab. I just requested a refund , do you think I will have trouble about it?

[@Keyjuann]

The logo kinda looks like the lost ark logo if one it was a bit more pointy

[@Krtekio]

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with this chair. I used to have DxRacer (Racing) and Noble (Epic). Yesterday I received my Secretlab fabric chair. I don't have any of your problems. I like it a lot, especially because of the lumbar support and the magnetic pillow. And Noble's armrests were terrible tbh. Very hard and with double sharp edges (wtf?) on the inside that hurt my arms. So everything still looks premium to me in my new one, even better than Noble as I said before. The only potential problem I see is the customer support. Any product can be defective, but it is not such a problem if the company replaces it.

[@MsabResearch]

Still happy with it? No noises and stuff? ty

[@Krtekio]

@@MsabResearch Still works as expected. But I am only ~55 kg. And I don’t play that much compared to those ones, who spend the entire day playing games. It really depends on the way you use it. But so far it is much better than the dxracer and noble I used to have before.

[@barbosbarbosov8711]

I already had SecretLab Titan EVO 2022. I would have to send it back. The reason for this was that the seat padding was cut too thin. You sit down and just feel the hardness of the seat. Namely the metal parts below. I mean, if there was something like plastic or wood to support the entire surface of the seat from below and the upholstery width at least plus 1 or 2 cm, I would keep it. Otherwise, only half of the seat is well padded. And where you actually sit you can feel the hardness of the metal. This is bad. I would say that the S version that I tried only fits people up to 65 kg. Because of the very thin padding.

[@HiCZoK]

the problem is that there are no alternatives. Especially not in XL size. I am 190cm tall 120kg big guy and XL is a must for me. I like to lounge and even sleep for few minutes in a chair. So i gotta deal with secretlab quality issues.

[@GtheMVP]

The AKracing Max chair is made for big people, nice and wide/comfy seat. I've had mine for 2 years now, it's fantastic.

[@IskrenMitkov]

I’m glad I didn’t buy one, warranty seems quite pointless. Thanks for the video.

[@davidm5548]

I bought an Omega back in 2020. When Covid hit I started work from home. Been in the chair every day for the last three years. It has been perfect.

[@laggmonstret]

Yeah the shipping is ridicilous if you have to return it. I am happy with my chair but wont buy one again the day it's time to replace it :P

[@Graymage69420]

I have this chair and I hate it so much. So stiff and uncomfortable even with all the adjustments. I even have extra cushions on it but they make the chair shaped even worse for shoulders. All around disappointed

[@MrPeanutSays-il7yw]

I have the 2022 evo in black fabric, absolute waste of money this chair was, it has given me back pain to no end

[@karmentolable]

Last june I was hesitant between a secetlab titan evo 2022 XL and a noblechair, decided to go with secretlabs because of the XL opportunity, what a bad decision! I regret it so much, I don't think these are worth what they cost, they suck!

[@darabbit333]

Was about to buy it, but im glad i checked this video out. I think i will opt for a Herman Miller.

[@Adidas_Altyn]

I have the latest titan fabric one and its served me well for about a year, sorry you experience sucked tho

[@whipivy]

The PU arm rest pads will fail and they will tell you this: "It appears that the armrest cover has worn over time with use. Wear and tear of parts is generally not covered under our warranty terms as the degree and speed of occurrence is highly subjected to environment, usage methods and aftercare provided, amongst other factors." PU foam impregnated components were used in dashes and arm rests in cars during the 1960's to the 1990's and this is how the material works. It fails, it doesn't hold up to heat and repetitive stress. The people as SecretLab know this and have implicitly admitted as such by offering an interesting design in the Cloudswap arm rests. So you can continue to use PU and just throw the pad away every couple years or you can get the plush arm rests which have a different covering material. I took the arm pad assembly apart and the design is solid, it's just the materials that isn't great, but the truth is when it comes to furniture, materials typically are cheap.

[@emperor_prime2011]

I bought a Secret Lab chair myself end of february and I'm pretty happy with it. Obviously the quality differs alot since I live in Germany and my chair is absolutly fine. I didn't buy the same version though, instead I went for one of LoL versions.

[@bedrockcommands1786]

Same wohne auch in Deutschland und bin auch zufrieden

[@WalterDeRooij]

Why would the quality be different for Germany? All European chairs are made in Poland afaik.

[@Praetoreon]

I just got mine last week. Chaffed TF out my ass the next day, when I worked from home, and had to sit in it all day. "Soft weave" they call it... its not soft at all. That coupled with the extreme firmness of the padding leads to a generally uncomfortable experience. As much as I wish I didn't have to do it, I'm probably going to pack it back up and initiate a return... ugh.

[@Laurenelizo]

I don’t even think I want a Secretlab anymore. Was going to buy one next week but if their consumer service is as bad as that upholstery, no thanks! Please what was the other brand of 4 years????

[@Laurenelizo]

I got this Ash one in XL and my upholstery is really good except a couple of indentations that I have on the top of the headset and I’ve made a support ticket. Lets see what they say

[@mannyperez4010]

​@@Laurenelizohow are you liking it?

[@georgepappas45]

so what did they say buddy @@Laurenelizo

[@arthanor9631]

Leyzar can roast chair makers just as well as heavy gunners. 🔥🔥 Sorry you had to go through this, but thanks for the warning. This does not look like a 500 euros experience!

[@sillytubbie]

Thank you for your honest review. Other youtubers lack this basic integrity and push out biased reviews in hope of more sponsorships. We need more honest reviews like this. Moral of the story, do not buy secretlab.

[@Timbdrhnm]

Thank you I almost bought the chair

[@englishdave8635]

My chair is now two years old. I’ve been through two seats the bottom part and two sets of arm pads. It’s the worst $500 I’ve ever spent, and I bought the titan heavy duty. The material is cheap. I’ve got the black one and it’s like the vinyl just cracks and it peals off of the armrests. The only thing good on it is the frame itself definitely not worth the price tag.

[@DevlVergil]

Seems like it's a hit or miss with their chairs. I bought the 2021/2022 Akali version and have two issues: mechanical lumbar support is noisy on occasion and the gap between the bottom and back pad is not perfectly symmetrical. Overall I don't mind those issues, especially since the noise has seemingly gotten better over time so I'm quite satisfied with the chair. The main selling point for me was the cool League of Legends Design with Akalis Dragon which you wouldn't remotely get from any other company as far as I know.

[@jeffstrains4014]

Chair quality has moved around with time, I am thinking about giving them a try. I have a DX Racer from the (Iron and King Series days) 8 years later chair shows no sign of wear. Tried a Master series and sent it back the next day.

[@SilvaDreams]

Yeah I have a DX racer, unfortunately it has used a lot of use over the years but the only wear it has is the synthetic leather has gotten old, hardened and is cracking on the seat itself. (Likely from sweat) but I have just been using a some fluffy hand towels I never use.

[@pointlessink6084]

Does it have a vibration mode?

[@DethNade]

no

[@Felwal115]

I've got the same chair but in cloth instead of leather and I've not had any of those issues fortunately. My guess is that you got really unlucky and they really dropped the ball with your chair

[@doctorsilva1345]

I would recommend getting a Herman miller. These “gaming chairs” are all marketing bs. I got my Herman miller chair for 100€ used but looks pristine. ‘Twas a steal. So I would recommend looking at your local used shops or online for some second hand chairs.

[@LeyzarGamingViews]

I'd agree but paying 2000+ euro for a chair is not something I can do or even want to do.

[@doctorsilva1345]

@@LeyzarGamingViews Yes, they are super expensive if you get them brand new. But I am sure you can get a second hand one at a very good price. Like I said mine wasn't brand new and it's a 2016 model but was like new and only paid 100euro for it. I believe you said you paid 500euro for this chair. You could 100% find a second hand herman miller chair for that price or lower.

[@LeyzarGamingViews]

I hear what you're saying but I'm against buying second chairs out of principle, hygiene is very important to us.

[@doctorsilva1345]

@@LeyzarGamingViews Yeah I undestand, very unfortunate that this has happened to you.

[@myocath]

I'm not sure how gaming chairs are different from office chairs. In both cases, you sit down at a computer desk. I'd recommend Herman Miller, Steelcase or Haworth office chairs. They are pricy, but some can be had for 500 dollars. They come with 10 and 15 years of warranty and the quality is perfection. But best part (I own a steelcase) is that it takes care of my health, with propper posture and great adjustments. The best I'd recommend is Steelcase Amia. Even if you buy these chairs used, the quality is far above what you find in gaming chairs, as they are built for 24/7 use.

[@jonny-b4954]

I don't recommend any "leather" chair. Both I've had the seat just disintegrates in a year or two. Even with a Purple cushion on it, spreading my weight.

[@UnleashedCode]

Really wish you told us what brand/type of chair your wife has.... looks significantly better in quality.

[@oasisnova]

hahahahah, thanks , they lost a customer on this one , absolutly abismol company policy... if i want squeeks ill keep my 10 year old broken in pos lol

[@FesterWerks]

I'm 6'4" and got an extra large. The extra large is designed for TALL & LARGE people, not tall people. Arms are too far apart and I swim in the seat. Don't go by their size recommendations if you are a tall person.

[@htojv]

Thanks to your excellent review I didn't buy it I was seconds to buy it hehe.

[@CronostheStray]

Tbh, gaming chairs are a bit overpriced and/or overrated. There's the "cheep-o build" version, the office chairs, that are designed to keep your back straight and healthy so the person can sit at the desk and work for 8+ hours without backpain distracting them. 😅

[@jstauber1]

Overpriced Junk. Frame is flimsy breaks easily. My 130lb wife broke off the arm. After 3 weeks and 64 emails they refused to honor my legit warranty claim. Bad company don't buy.

[@JamesMartin2014]

Liar.

[@Headfinch2077]

I think you wife is too heavy. I recommend keto. Or the vegan teacher. And how is that the chairs fault

[@dantae666]

Thank you confirms what i thought

[@oldschoolgamer5113]

Chairs are garbage, I bought one for 400.00 and it's like sitting on the bleachers at a high school game while Brett hart has you in a sharp shooter. I have never been so disappointed in my life. It's the most painful thing you will ever sit in. It's like a torture machine not a gaming chair. I can't even give it away.

[@halieus56]

If you can, it's always best to try out a chair in-person before you buy it. Especially if quality and finish are important. You can find lightly used $1500 office chairs for this price that are leagues better.

[@LeyzarGamingViews]

I would never buy a SH chair. That's just gorse and unsanitary.

[@defrte]

there are some pretty decent cleaners out there but I wouldn't ever buy one that isn't mesh, its uncleanable. For $1500, as mentioned, just get a herman miller lmao

[@halieus56]

@@defrte That's the point I'm trying to make. You can still get a really nice chair, like a Herman Miller, on a budget. I really like and use their chairs, but I'm not trying to tell you which brand to get because it's subjective. You'll get more mileage and higher quality with a HM. I've had gaming chairs and they wear out much faster. Anything can be cleaned. We've all sat on planes and in auditoriums where 100 people have sat in the same chair, but by all means, pay full price for new if you're able.