Secrets of The Motorway - A627M

[@neildaniel8232]

Laughing hysterically 2 seconds in, a new record. Bravo 👏🤣

[@ethzero]

Why? ⚾⚽🏀🎱🏐

[@angusgtw]

The sign on the left, I imagine.

[@acourierfromtheuk]

Cos "Putin Has Tiny Ballz"😂😂😂

[@Broxbhoy1]

Took you 2 seconds? 😂 I love his deadpan slapstick humour.

[@RichardWatt]

​ Putin has bigger balls than Biden, according to the Saudis.

[@AmirBrooks]

That opening shot 😂😂😂 Hilarious, and probably true.

[@PrograError]

Indeed

[@royale4318]

I would just like to say I approve wholeheartedly of your choice of location for the introduction. Such a picturesque backdrop.

[@xr6lad]

Yes. Very reminiscent of 1940’s propaganda movies.

[@stewartsherwood7769]

Only 5 seconds into the vid and that backdrop choice already earned a like from me!

[@fraggit]

🎵Putin, he's only got one ball🎵

[@ed_j_webb]

Just maybe steer clear of Russian sounding gents offering you cups of tea.

[@alexhajnal107]

@@fraggit I once knew someone who had one kicked off whilst playing rugby.

[@smogmonster1876]

Told my PCV instructor about the A627Ms traffic light controlled roundabout junction. He argued black and blue with me that there’s no such thing as a roundabout or traffic lights on a motorway. So THANK YOU Jon for proving me right. Yet another excellent video. Safe travels.

[@johnny242001]

See also the M27/M271 junction.

[@AutoShenanigans]

hehe... there's a few examples of traffic lights and roundabouts on motorways :D

[@smogmonster1876]

@@AutoShenanigans My PCV instructor was clueless. Hopefully he watches your videos Jon. Safe travels.

[@richardvoogd705]

The idea of traffic lights and roundabouts on motorways has always struck me as a bit odd, yet they can still be found if you know where to look.

[@JohnSmithShields]

The A1(M)/M18 junction has just entered the chat.

[@ethzero]

Thanks for putin up with the rain, John!

[@Vtarngpb]

I see what you did there 😉

[@djsmithe]

Ballz, he loves the rain.

[@Dangerousbros1]

This series is a modern british treasure

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@Dangerousbros1]

@@AutoShenanigans Cheers mate, always brightens up my Sundays.

[@adamkiddle]

Only with John can you be informed, entertained and just when you think.."surely that's enough, John, we don't deserve any more," and he reminds you of the impressive production behind the 'Rude Dawg & the Dweebs' theme. Bravo sir, bravo.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@SiRhodesDriverTraining]

Nearly spat my brew out when I realised what that Graffiti at the beginning said 🤣🤣 You do find some random stuff mate.

[@SiRhodesDriverTraining]

Also, I bet it was one of Da Boyz or Da Girlz that did that graffiti. Very northern, putin a Z instead of a S

[@ScottJ6187]

Junction 4 used to end in a roundabout, up to about 20 years ago. I believe that's when the canal tunnel was rebuilt to allow its reopening to traffic.

[@oliverstemp9132]

I love how if a video only needs to be 5 minutes that’s how long it will be. No fluff.

[@paulmarsy1041]

The A663 or Broadway as we locals call it, was originally built in the 1930s to connect the A671 Oldham Road at Royton, to the A62 Oldham Road in Failsworth, to make it quicker and easier to get to and from Manchester to Royton/Shaw/Rochdale areas. Great video Jon, hope you enjoyed Tandle Hill Park.

[@LeeSmith-cf1vo]

Love the location choice for the opening. I can just imagine you walking along, spotting .... that ... And thinking "perfect spot". Also, is this the only example of traffic lights on the _main carriage way_? I know there are other places with traffic lights under motorway regs, but they are (mostly?) off the main carriage way, accessible only via a slip lane.

[@lefthandedspanner]

M271 near Southampton also stops for an at-grade roundabout where it meets M27, as did the former A601(M) near Carnforth

[@benlee4940]

Bradford end of the M606 has traffic lights on the main carriageway. The thumbnail for Jon's video has "traffic lights on the motorway!?" in it.

[@LeeSmith-cf1vo]

@@benlee4940 I would say if it's right at the end then it doesn't count

[@ianhutchinson1783]

Junction 8/9 on the M4. Jon covered this with his A404(M) and A308(M) vlogs

[@fatcontrole1]

M60/m62 junction at sinister is a huge 3 level junction...... with traffic lights to continue on the M60 🤷🏻

[@WyndiMan]

After you are done with the Secrets of the Motorway series, I would love to see you hunt down and find trap streets... and then try to navigate them as if they were actual roads. It would fit your style, I think!

[@JustCameronAndHisJeep]

Thank you... for just doing this. every week. reliably. I look forward to each of your videos.

[@jhdore]

Amen.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@YoloMenace001]

Lol 'Putin has tiny balls' 😂😂

[@user-sd3ik9rt6d]

I'm sure he does.

[@paulmcgeown7022]

Jct 3 and its traffic lights: : "I mean, I just can't be bothered". AWESOME JOHN

[@jasonandreoli4135]

Small point with a tenuous transport connection, specifically while the northwest processed cotton, the northeast was all about wool. This is because cotton was grown in the Americas and shipped over via Liverpool. Yorkshire was further away which made shipping raw cotton too expensive and had great water more suitable for processing wool. The packhorse routes, canals then railways across the pennines were only really used for fetching lancastrian fleeces for processing and exportation of finished cloth.

[@alanwoodhead5321]

I understand that the atmosphere on the west of the Pennines is more suitable for producing cotton woven products because it is more humid. The prevailing winds are from the west and when they rise they cause moisture and rain to form. Hence east of the Pennines are less humid which is better for producing wooden goods.

[@stephenbagwell8275]

Near the end of the Stakehill link is Hopwood Hall College which has a smaller version of the Liverpool Metropolitan Cathedral (Paddy’s Wigwam). We used to walk there for special masses from the nearby Cardinal Langley school which was attended by Steve Coogan (Alan Partridge) We also had to do cross country runs in Tandle Hill

[@Baron_Laska]

Laughed after 3 seconds. Researched what copyright traps are after 1 min 20 seconds, then realised that if I had been more patient could have it explained to after 3 mins 33 seconds. Thought I saw water running uphill after 1 minute 51 seconds. Got a total of 4 minutes and 51 seconds peace and quiet on a Sunday. One of the best videos yet, thanks for your work.

[@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe]

You mentioned Stakehill industrial estate, I spent 5 months working in a warehouse during a winter when I was 19, It was that cold and foggy (It's built on Marshland) The loading bays were open all through the night, I ended up getting Pneumonia and a Blood clot on my lung for sat driving Forklift trucks. Every time I see or hear of that, Hell Hole I get a cold shiver down my spine.

[@TheInselaffen]

Love Sunday Lunch with Jon and Jago.

[@MrTurtlebar]

Sunday's aren't complete without a video from Jon! Many thanks. Yo dudes get rude!

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@chrisstephen84]

I am loving the continued obscure 90s TV themes tests at the end ❤

[@AutoShenanigans]

I'm running out of material!

[@kevinhendry306]

Another Sunday complete! Many thanks Jon!! Please do a video about the disaster that is the A30 duelling at Chiverton Cross.

[@annekarice1587]

I kid you not, only yesterday myself and my family were making mundane trip on the A31 in our Toyota Auris 1.6 Estate when our son asked if there were traffic lights on a motorway. I suggested we reach out to you, given your subject matter expertise on the topic and loandbehold, not even 24 hours later, here we are.

[@paultaylor5608]

Yes like Scott mentions below, when junction 4 was built as a roundabout originally, it cut off the Rochdale canal. It allowed the water through but not barges. When they did the canal up for leisure barges, they remade the junction into a crossroads with lights, building it higher with a tunnel to allow the barges through.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

Jon, great video as always, and full marks for getting the green paint off your hands before you started filming 🤣

[@wilber3762]

Got caught in the trap again, there’s no way out. But I love your work John. Once again you’ve excelled yourself on such a short mission. Brilliant 👏

[@henrikhyrup3995]

1:34 the way you so relaxed say "....the same shit they used to..." had me laughing for a good while.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Another Sunday afternoon Gem! 👏👏👍😀

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@enginetuna1995]

I had a rude dog t-shirt in the late 80s! I come along for the motorway stuff, I stay for the outro music! 😂😊

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@6thdayblue59]

Brilliant as always and a real Sunday night treat for everyone. We certainly know how to mess up things here in Manchester, and urban legend says that the graffiti on the bridges stems back to the 1970’s when the motorway was built, and is beautifully preserved as a reminder of how inept town planners can be and a warning for future planners. (Please know it was Dave in the Kenny pub who told me about the graffiti, and he also thinks Elvis works at the McDonalds on the A6045 so take graffiti bit with a large sachet of McDonalds salt) 10/10 As always and thank you x

[@nigelhall6714]

Rude Dog and the Dweebs? 🙂. I like guessing the credits music!

[@RichardWatt]

Yo dudes, get rude!

[@tardismole]

I do love the opener with it's background commentry.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@wullie31]

1:49 I know it's just the perspective, but that water is flowing uphill 😮😮😮

[@chickenpopper]

Not true. Jon has mastered the art of talking backwards. The video is in fact reversed.

[@wullie31]

@@chickenpopper he's good, isn't he 😃

[@petersmithm9]

The joys of cross country running from one side of the motorway to Tandle Hill during the construction. I remember a few running shoes vanishing into the knee deep mud.

[@MattBrunton1965]

Slightly disappointed we didn't get another Shenanigans/Ringway collab, seeing as you were in his back garden so to speak. You tease, you.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Some day I'll get around to it.

[@MRTransportVideos]

Love the two random walkers at the end, no doubt wondering why a bloke in a Beenie Hat is waving... keep up the good work, sir.

[@AutoShenanigans]

I think we took each other by surprise somewhat.

[@micrashed]

I do enjoy this weekly bits of trivia John - always interesting. I once went out with a nurse from Oldham, she certainly did too.

[@Andrewjg_89]

The A627(M) at junction 2 where you got the Slattocks link road that is part of the A627(M). That small motorway could have been renumbered as the A664(M) Slattocks link road. And yes the A627(M) would have had a flyover that would have gone over M62 at junction 3 at Kirkholt Interchange (south of Rochdale). The A627(M) acts like a small expressway linking Rochdale and Oldham and avoiding Slattocks village where the A664 passes through. I was thinking if the A627(M) could have been renumbered as the A664(M) or maybe re-classified as the M627 or M664 Motorway.

[@ollyshighlightreel6530]

There would be so many concerns raised by local residents if Broadway (A663) would have been converted to motorway standards when the M60 was finally completed (watch the M60 video LOL). There are so many houses and schools built on or use Broadway so that would have caused nightmares at the planning stages. Then again, Broadway is a complete nightmare to begin with so who knows if the upgrade would have helped anyway? I do love the location of the introduction!!! Pretty much sums up everything.

[@fatcontrole1]

Saw the notification for this whilst sitting in a bay at the Macdonald's at the end of the A627M. Apt.

[@djhrecordhound4391]

Right off the bat, we see what someone's Putin down in this groove!!!! 😆😅😂🤣

[@onawhim9079]

I kept looking for messages on every bit of concrete that later turned up, nice ;)

[@terencemichaels]

Cheers John, a Sunday treat as ever. I really am not much interested in motorways but here I am again...

[@AutoShenanigans]

Glad to have you!

[@brokengirl248]

Short, sweet and simple Made me laugh on the intro with that message on the Stone. Ha ha. Hope you've had a great week. 😊😊😊

[@mybookfacetube]

I'm surprised he even has any, even though they're tiny. As a relatively new subscriber I'm enjoying working my way through your content. Even got a few friends watching you now. Always so informative, well shot, and lots of humour. Great stuff.

[@joncurtis199]

The A627 easily has the best feature of any Motorway in the UK and that is it allows you to get out of the dump that is Oldham.

[@roderickmain9697]

Friend of mine wanted her ashes sprinkled on Tandle hill. We did. Nice view of Manchester (and the A627(M)) where she had lived and worked in and around for the last 40 years.

[@tobyjackman3212]

This is the best video I've ever seen about anything

[@AutoShenanigans]

These comments are the best comments I've ever seen....

[@stephengorman8012]

I'm a great fan of the motorways shenanigans John u doing a grand job if your programme called secret of the motorways well done from Steve keep up the good work you do

[@logy7]

Appreciate the opening message!!!

[@MemskiBobSki]

Worked in Oldham town centre. that traffic light "controlled" junction is an absolute nightmare. Rochdale slip roads users often backed up into the M62. The other side of the junction has 2 lanes west and 1 east. Bonkers.

[@vittoriagiuliano5275]

Brilliant videos Jon I always look forward to Sundays to see what you upload up to KZbin

[@Hornedbear]

Thank you for making these videos in all weathers John!

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@MarcDuffyTV]

Thanks Jon! I grew up in Castleton (no R) and often wondered why they hadn't built the flyover at junction 3. We would have had a junction like Simister Island (junction 18 M60/62), although there are traffic lights on that junction also. There was talk when I was a kid that before the creation of Sandbrook Park, after the demolition of Ashfield Valley flats, the motorway could have been extended to a further junction 5 closer to Rochdale town centre. If it was built it would have eased the traffic on the A664 which was downgraded from dual carriageway in the early 2000s.

[@davehughes6501]

I grew up on hardwick street, right behind the flats. Witnessed them from my bedroom window been demolished. We used to play in the old mills & scrapyards that used to be where sandbrook is now.

[@ajfurrell3744]

Crassleton or castletron? Maybe both apply 😂

[@chrishartley1210]

Probably 90% of the traffic is to or from the M62. I expect they didn't think it was worthwhile putting in the flyover for the other 10% or so.

[@MarcDuffyTV]

@@chrishartley1210 Not sure where you get your figures from Chris, but if you don't know the road it is a key commuter corridor to the centre of Manchester without having to join the M62 at peak times. The A663 Broadway from Junction 1 to Junction 21 of the M60 is one of the most congested routes into the city centre.

[@MrDazvere]

PMSL at the opening shot! Should have said you were coming, I would have made you a brew. You can see my house from Tandle Hill

[@leopold7562]

Ah, the A627(M). The first motorway I ever drove on. Largely because I came from Chadderton and it’s pretty close by. I remember my dad telling me that the plan was to extend it down the A663 (or Broadway, as we call it) and there was space around it for widening, but given Broadway is mostly a four lane single carriageway with lots of junctions along that stretch, it seems a bit unlikely. It would’ve been handy, I suppose, but a younger me wouldn’t have enjoyed crossing it twice a day going to and from school. Also, Junction 3. As I understand it, there wasn’t a plan to install a flyover, but they did lay the road out to allow for one in a staggeringly rare case of forward planning. Apparently, the plan was to see how the traffic used the junction and, if enough people went straight over then it would’ve been considered. It quickly turned out that almost all of the traffic was heading to the M62, so it never got past the possibly maybe phase

[@britpopfloyd1933]

What's even more daft about Junction 3 is you'll sit at the red lights and spot the signs that say "no stopping"

[@AutoShenanigans]

So true!!

[@TheThejpmshow]

I love a new episode of Auto ocean anigan According to KZbin subtitles anyway

[@installedsound906]

The A627M traffic light roundabout was often seen in the top classrooms on certain scenes of the BBC Waterloo Road programme back when it was filmed on the Kirkholt estate from 2006-2012 - the school site sat directly next to the M62.

[@davehughes6501]

Wish i'd have known you were up here, i'd have bought you a carvery dinner 👍 you stumbled upon my fishing spot too 😮

[@timothyivatts]

Just brilliant

[@vaughanwarburton9623]

I broke down on the A627M just after lock down ,the turbo went the the jeep I was driving right near the bridge you featured stood there at the side of the road for 4 f-ing hours before being recovered,,anyway on with my weekend,,great video 👍🏻🍺

[@boatman323]

Traffic lights on the M62/M60/M66 junction at Simister Island as well.

[@steveclarke6257]

It's not the only traffic light control roundabout locally, the M60/M62/M66 roundabout is also traffic light control

[@malcolmcog]

oh yes, that traffic light roundabout, I went round it many times on my travel from Bolton to Oldham !

[@CoffeeWaffee]

Oh yes the A663 is pretty rubbish, lots of traffic lights and traffic jams, especially at the M60 junction area.

[@NickB_Yorkshire]

Great video as always Jon. Love your content. The crazy traffic lights thing reminds me of the M62, Jn.22 eastbound, which you’re probably aware of, where there’s a cattle grid on the slip road which is still under motorway regulations at that point. Bonkers! 🤪

[@MarcDuffyTV]

Both entry and exit slip roads have them in both directions.

[@NickB_Yorkshire]

@@MarcDuffyTV Ahh right. I’ve only ever been off at the eastbound before. Was one of those WTF? moments 😆

[@AutoShenanigans]

It turns out there are a few sets of sliproads with cattle grids.

[@NickB_Yorkshire]

@@AutoShenanigans Hitting a cow or sheep at 70 MPH could make a little bit of a mess 🤔😱

[@MYCROFTonX]

Sunday afternoon would not be the same without another wickedsweetawesome video from 2Jon the Motorway Gadabout!"

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@david-stewart]

I like dystopian stuff like industrial canals, concrete, and Joy Division

[@Zero_Ninety]

I haven't thought about Rude Dog and the Dweebs for years. Thanks for that.

[@JeezonTorst]

oh that's where the music's from! I was thinking it's familiar and guessing it was some 80's WWE wrestler.

[@Dan23_7]

I’m on this road quite a bit with my new job, I’ll keep my eyes peeled for that monument. Another fantastic episode Jon, thank you 👍🏼 I’m clueless to what tune that is at the end though.

[@MrTurtlebar]

The tune is the outro from Rude Dog and the Dweebs. An 80's cartoon that was shown on CBBC.

[@stephenmiddleton7626]

There are also traffic lights on the motorway roundabout between the M4, A404(M) and A308(M).

[@Dave1976.]

Another cracking vlog as always. Some thing to enjoy at the week end to cheer you up

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@Dave1976.]

@AutoShenanigans your welcome. Love all yr vlogs, make me laugh. There's a lot of time and effort goes into editing.

[@glenjones6980]

Pre transporter days I did a lot of foodsftuffs from factory to supermarket distribution centres, I used to spend so long on Stakehill waiting to unload at the craphole depots for 3 in particular I could easily end up on a night out and it was only a 90 minute trip from the yard to the estate. Don't get me started on the inability folk have to read the (not) teeny weeny lane markers and traffic lights at the roundabout. If only they were slightly bigger and the lights a bit brighter I'd have a 30 year accident free record to my name.

[@tommig1995]

I once got semi-lost here, when coming down the M62 at night I found they were closing the road at the junction and forcing traffic onto the 627. Without satnav or knowledge of the roads I managed my way to the M60 but without any knowledge of where I was at the time

[@brantnuttall]

4:06 that is the coolest bridge ever!

[@paulfidler3710]

There’s an ever so slight gradient on it, which used to be fun on my scooter as a kid.

[@sdwelham]

Loads of traffic lights on motorways (within motorway regs) from ramp metering as you join or on RAs that are on motorways ( M23 jct 9 ) to name a few

[@matthew1hyndman]

I think the thing to remember is the A663, or Broadway was there many years before they started construction the middle bits of the M66 Motorway between Heaton Park and Ashton-under-Lyme (which would become Junction 20 - 22 of the M60 prior to it opening in 2000 Turning the section of Broadway (A663) into a Motorway would have been none starter, in part due to Middleton Road (A669) crossing Broadway, which was a major trunk route for journey's between Middleton and Oldham (as well as local traffic visiting the Chadderton shopping area just beyond Broadway) As other have said, there are a lot of local homes (some with drives directly accessing the A663) and businesses on that section of road that preceded the M60 extension opening.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Yep fair points... I imagine it's why the plans never suggested that the A663 was going to be a motorway.

[@markgr1nyer]

That opening shot is genius lol

[@firesurfer]

Nice trig point. 4:15 The little window near the bottom is for a ''flush bracket attachment''. For more info see, How do trig points actually work on yt.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@DeepSpaceNetwork]

Another good one

[@malcolmrusk3351]

Brilliant sarcastic descriptions,keep it up

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@David_Crayford]

More of a squareabout or ovalabout from its shape. I've been offline for a few days, with all the grey hair that induces, but pleased to make this video my first KZbin port of call.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Welcome back!

[@MrGreatplum]

Love the opening shot 😆

[@installedsound906]

The blue bridge you were stood on over the A627M was used in a scene in Waterloo Road when a student was running away from their baby or something, I can't remember but it definitely looks familiar.

[@AgentDaxon]

just off of junction 3 is also a new housing estate which used to be original set of waterloo road between 2006-12

[@ditch3827]

The roundabout at the end of what google erroneously calls the A627(M) is somewhat confusing. It has three exits all of which are marked A664 on the roundabout. Not much help if you are looking for the A664 exit. Bing Maps calls the roundabout (and just the roundabout) the A644 - another map trap or the shortest circular A road?. The sign for the exit to the A627(M) has more left brackets than right brackets so wasn't proof read before being printed, unless it really does go to the A627(M

[@nowster]

The A664 connects also to the Slattocks spur, and splits twice: to meet the A58 at Sudden, to pass the northern end of the A627(M) and meet the A58 again north of Tesco, and finally it meets the A58 a third time on the far side of Rochdale. The original A627 routing was from Ashton to Rochdale along the route of the current A671. For about fifteen years after the motorway was open they coexisted.

[@Infinity9_]

The start of the M32 (where it meets the M4) also has a traffic light controlled roundabout :)

[@carldickson2603]

Junction 3 is feckin' nighmare as nobody seems to know the correct lane to get into when crossing it for Rochdale and M62 Eastbound, even though it's painted on the carriageway!

[@oderbang]

oh the framing of that intro 👌👌👌👌

[@nervo6321]

Love your vids I always think the A627M is neither here nor there to be honest…much like Oldham 😂

[@robertbuckley2429]

i hope the next episode of Secrets of The Motorway would be the A64(M)

[@Broxbhoy1]

I hate that roundabout. If it's the same one im thinking of. I always end up in the wrong lane as it's signs read Manchester (East) Manchester (North) ..etc and not being local i haven't a bstd clue which way im facing as I've lost my bearings by then lol

[@6thdayblue59]

From Dave in the Kenny Pub :) :) :)

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks a lot mate!

[@danielmarshall4587]

Thank you I did enjoy your video.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching mate!

[@el_es]

I rarely give a hands up but your opening shot deserves it.

[@therealmattoid]

That opening shot 😂😂😂

[@stevebaddeley8157]

Thanks Jon. Great videos!

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one mate, thanks for watching and helping out :) appreciate it!