Section 2 and Section 3

[@Botoshel19]

Strange that I can’t find much when it comes to what kind of safeguards are in place to protect a person for being the subject of an abuse and being wrongfully detained and deprived of his/her liberty which undoubtly will lead to a trauma

[@mlisa61]

Yes, thatis true. been trying to find that for ages. & yes, what u say does happen. the people who do such things to others, r not looked at. they must be? it's quite serious that they r. it just can't b accepted. watch a US ABC TV, a good news report on those who voluntarily go 'in', but cant come out easily!

[@yagmurgecin1847]

I've just come across your videos, really great explanations! I'm studying Social Work so I need to learn these :))

[@DrBethColby]

Thanks, Yagmur, I am glad they're useful to you. If you have any suggestions for future videos, please let me know

[@colindixon9916]

I’m so grateful my partner is in a hospital! It’s taken weeks and weeks to get her a bed- had to go private in the end- no nhs beds in the whole Uk for weeks! NHS is crumbling

[@ola4me]

I am studying MSc Social Social Work and I find the video very educative and informative. Your explanation is great and I now have better understanding of Section 2 and 3 of the MHA. Thanks

[@DrBethColby]

You're very welcome! Glad it is helpful. Best wishes, Beth

[@fredmusiiwa239]

just watched your videos, so helpful

[@DrBethColby]

Great! Beth

[@saraamira5775]

Currently in my mental health rotation. Thank you for the video ! It is very helpful. :)

[@DrBethColby]

You're very welcome, Sara!

[@manoumanou6779]

Thank you for the explanation

[@DrBethColby]

You are very welcome, Manou.

[@darrenbroughton9277]

So a section 2 is up to 28 days and it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be there for 28 days and you might only be there for a few days or a week or 2 weeks etc, depending on your assessment?

[@DrBethColby]

Yes, that is correct. The Responsible Clinician can take somebody off a Section 2 at any time if they no longer meet the criteria for detention. The patient is then free to leave or to remain as an informal (voluntary) patient if advised to do so.

[@Smiles4034]

well explained and quite usefull. thank you very much

[@DrBethColby]

You're very welcome, Sher. Glad it has been helpful

[@fionarussell7622]

Basically bullying and taking away a persons human rights

[@DrBethColby]

Thank you for giving your view, Fiona

[@fionarussell7622]

@@DrBethColby They need to be taken away as they harm many people. Many more than they help.

[@DrBethColby]

Thank you for sharing, Fiona

[@princesszweni7653]

Thank u so much

[@DrBethColby]

You are very welcome! Best wishes, Beth

[@shabira5163]

Thanks for the information. At what point do the doctors decide that the patient needs to be in a full-time mental care home? I have a nephew that has just been sectioned 2 to a 3. But he really needs to be under full-time care. He has a history of heavy drug abuse. Very gullible and the drug dealers just take all his money and supply him with ever more lethal drugs.

[@colindixon9916]

Going through the exact same thing with my partner ☹️

[@TaylorBirch-yf7mj]

Section 17 isnt a form a rc can agree verbaly ect. It is purely a matter of rc agreeing to leave the form is just a trust thing

[@rajahumarkhan7476]

My daughter is on section 3 but she wants to come home she has calm down and wants to come home i feel she is right what can i do

[@DrBethColby]

Are you the Nearest Relative as defined in the Mental Health Act? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGOWgYGdiNKFjbs If so, you can write to the Hospital Managers to say you want to discharge your daughter in 72 hours. If the Responsible Clinician agrees to this, he/she will take your daughter off the Section 3 and your daughter can remain as an informal patient or go home. If the Responsible Clinician does not agree, he/she will block the discharge. There will then be a Managers' Meeting regarding the discharge. If the Managers do not agree to discharge your daughter, then you or your daughter can apply to the Mental Health Review Tribunal. Best wishes, Beth

[@robpoole3437]

I work in mental health and we can’t get anyone sectioned as no beds ! It’s a fucking joke!

[@DrBethColby]

Yes, it has all changed over the years with beds being closed and services moved more to the community. To me it means that the Home Treatment Teams have to carry a lot of risk. Best wishes, Beth

[@celibin09]

Rubbish you can be sectioned for any reason Keep away from them