SECULAR VS SACRED MUSIC, SHOULD THEY MIX? | Office Hours with Ace Harris

[@gisoul]

I think the issue with being a Christian and doing a collaboration with a secular artist isn’t so much the Christian artist being influenced, (although that should be a concern) but more so the contribution to millions of minds being diluted with content that is contrary to God and His will. Our art should reflect the fruit of the spirit and not the works of the flesh. I agree that there are definitely opportunities to be a witness to the individual artist, but that opportunity shouldn’t be at the expense of the even greater opportunity of staying true to Godly character and not dealing out content that push people further away from the God, who commands all to turn away from the very things that are being encouraged through the music that we’re giving approval to. “The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead."” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:30-31‬ ‭

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

AMEN

[@officialtroopmusic]

I agree with u bro and if we don't stick to the word of God, we are completely lost. Point blank and period. I'll hate for God to say I gave you a platform for the glory of me and to reach souls but instead you watered the message down in your music. That's a sad case! We also have to stay true to the King and not confuse our followers. Good breakdown bro

[@ronaldpilime925]

G.I.SouL so true I agree 100%

[@BrianDikasdaybyday]

Ouu that’s tough bro. Facts.

[@champonnayacht7771]

FAXS

[@cheburgess8369]

The bottom line for me is this. Is the music you are producing, writing, performing, feeding the lust of the flesh, or the fruit of the spirit. Everything secular ain't bad, but if it is promoting stuff that God has a problem with, shouldn't his people have a problem with it too. Being in the world is fine. That is where Jesus wants us to be. Yet He wants us to be kept from the evil one. My struggle with this is that yes, we are to shine light in spaces of darkness, but sometimes I think we help with the spreading of darkness and calling it being light in darkness.

[@tonywilliams504]

Che Burgess Amen. This is exactly what we as believers should be aiming to do. We were free from the bondage of sin and made alive to follow God.

[@kesheamedearis7350]

BOOM!! Right on.

[@naiomisweets8942]

Very well said. Sometimes we use "being a light" to justify and mask compromising our values. Plus, we know we're wrong when we're doing it. We've become so afraid to use the word 'wrong', but it's not opinion based it's the word of God. Jesus was amongst sin, but never engaged or promoted it. We can't be light if we're condoning and promoting things we know are not pleasing to God. What you said was sooo spot on.

[@kressten]

You are so right on this!!!!!

[@kressten]

Preach it!!!!

[@themorfeeis]

A few years after I found CHH I got rid of all my old hip-hop cuts. I didn't do it because I thought I was too good, I did it because the music was poison. What's in a man's heart flows out of him and if I kept putting that poison in my mind what do you tjink came out. There is no way (God help me) that I could help make music that I knew could help to poison the minds of people.

[@cc5973]

🙏🏼

[@tonywilliams504]

Amen Amen Amen

[@jonathanalexander7363]

Facts 👏🏾🙏🏾

[@kb8866]

Amen!!!

[@tdh4982]

The WHY is for the money. Plain and simple. Christians don't pay as much as big name worldy artists. Thats the bottom line. It would be nice to hear brothers say what they do and WHY they do it truthfully.

[@RZFLSports]

That's just not it. CHH is a huge money making Industry and often provides more money than some of the secular stuff, it's facts you can look at interviews from several reach and non reach artists. The WHY is rubbing of the the Values of Christ to others. We live to spread the Good News and the Gospel. One of the best things we can do is spread it to the non-believers aka spread to mainstream. It isn't about the money. It's about spreading God to everyone and letting everybody know Jesus saves.

[@sspann11]

Caption of this video should be "How Can I Be Lukewarm"

[@tdh4982]

Hahaha. Sorry bro but that cracked me up. You are absolutely right. These brothers don't even realize that they're being lukewarm. But they do realize it may God have mercy on their soul

[@kwamd.1461]

How is that being lukewarm? You are rather being lukewarm. You’re supposed to be praying for them, not judging them the wrong way.

[@kwamd.1461]

*being lukewarm

[@ohwell118]

Yeah, being lukewarm is a scary thought, but the book of Romans chapter 1 and 2 reminds us not to judge are brothers and sisters in Christ, because we are not qualified to do so.

[@SanyaSoul]

The "why" before the "what" is a flawed ideology if the "why" isn't rooted in scripture. With your reasoning, I could steal, lie or murder if my 'why' permits me to do so. We have to hold ourselves accountable to an ultimate authority here.

[@Naomiburachek]

Mike Sanya amen

[@PrincesaDeDios74713]

💯

[@tamikaherbert1633]

This is SUPERB!!! Keep speaking on those things others try to 'box' us in Lecrae! Move forward with intentionally and LOVE as God leads you my Royal Family!🙌🏾🙏🏾💞

[@DavidRobledo22]

As an artist I think the main question to ask with what you created is, "does it glorify God?" If it doesn't then who are you glorifying?

[@nck.968]

"If you don't know who you are, somebody else is gonna tell you who you are." SHEEESH that's deep

[@adambata4667]

Producing TI featuring Chris Brown private show isn't giving God glory

[@PrincesaDeDios74713]

Facts

[@kb8866]

God bless yall, did I really just hear what the producer said? And looks like one of my favorite artist, Lecrae approves? So Ace Harris said, (paraphrasing) "as a church leader, youth leader, doing Bible studies and also posting up song T.I. featuring Chris Brown called private show...." You can't explain this away bro. That's like a Jew making video promoting the holocaust, or blacks promoting segregation". (S/O Flame & Thisl, I aint Turning Back). Just the basics of the Gospel. Trying to improve upon the plain teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ, is very dangerous. Don't yall know Jesus says, “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6 Don't over think it. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools". Romans 1:22. This is beyond Jesus hanging out with sinners. Producing a video for the secular artists is directly participating in their sin. May God restore us to the basics of His truth. Peace.

[@renesalas8863]

Light and darkness don’t mix . Simple as that. This ain’t a matter of popular belief . When it comes to God it’s about what HE says not what we think. Lecrae knows this

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

FACTS. This Is Actually Elementary. It's Not A Gray Issue.

[@tonywilliams504]

Kyle Manning I agree. Why doesn’t he advocate it then? It’s confusing when he doesn’t share the truth.

[@loveflowsfromife]

You are 100% right; light and darkness don't mix because the light will always overcome the darkness! As much as we need to guard our hearts from sin which is true we need to penetrate the darkness with our light because that's exactly what Jesus did! I feel like Lecrae has been trying to do this for a while now. Yes he has had made mistakes and he's not perfect but I believe his motives are pure and correct.

[@vikkicarr3255]

Exactly brother!

[@bobbypeacock1930]

Love the content. People will never know what happens behind close doors so we from outside perspective we shouldn't judge instead pray first and ask questions. Accountability is I think its awesome that you have people holding you accountable.

[@virtuouswarrior8371]

I say we all know by now what to and what not to do..listen to the Holy Spirit wherever it leads you

[@fredsackey906]

I'll make a reference to your song "Nuthin" , where you rightly assert that some of these music is poisonous, you talk about building each other up. Now as a producer, don't you think contributing to poisonous music is wrong?? This is not an attack on the character of secular musicians, but truth be told, most often than not, the music they bring out promotes fleshly values.

[@buckyshelton]

I love the honesty and the advice! I’m in those spaces right now and to be honest not everything is black and white. I’m starting to engage it like a missionary would a culture while doing my best to make good music and an influence with Jesus. However I keep an ear open to hear others out if they disagree with me. Still figuring it out, pray for me 🙏

[@hissenisse]

Following the logic of their arguments: If I were to be a great stage designer... could I work at constructing stages for strip clubs, as long as I find myself being confident in my identity in Christ? This is stupid... and Lecrae saying that Jesus didn´t condemn anyone? No he just told everyone to repent from their evil ways. Lecrae seems to be confused now days.

[@AudioRedmusicunlimited]

It’s all a question of who influences you more, if you are doing it to please the world then no you shouldn’t do it but if you are doing in the right way for gods glory and to bring truth to others then yes. “Jesus was willing to be affiliated with the darkness to bring light to it”

[@onedrop7817]

I agree 💯

[@dj-wk8db]

Yeah just because you’re with them doesn’t mean you have to agree with what their doing not only can they influence you though you can influence them too.

[@noahdavis401]

Audio Red i totally agree, and it’s unfortunate that so many ppl in lecraes comment section can’t see that

[@tonywilliams504]

Lecrae I love you bro and your music . But I can’t overlook what you said about Jesus not condemning. Jesus did condemn and told people throughout his ministry that they were sinful (wrong). From the beginning of his ministry with “Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand,” to Father forgive them because they know not what they do.” The Gospel call is to repent and believe in Jesus. People have to know they are very wrong to be made right with God. People have to know that what they are doing is evil so they can turn from it to Jesus . I don’t want to argue about a beat or production . I don’t really care about that . So please anyone who is reading this don’t start blasting my comments about nonsense. I think it’s awesome being able to spread truth in dark places and just be a light for Gods glory . However, people in the industry making millions and people who are in the poorest parts of the world need to hear the whole gospel They need to hear they are doing evil and are sinners, (lovingly but truthfully) to be set free from there sin. Rather than be coddled and made to fee comfortable . We (Christians) had to go through it in order to be saved. We (Christians) had to hear the bad news before the good news. That’s why we (Christians) love Jesus so much because he exposed our sin, made us right with God, and freed us from bondage .

[@ElenyM]

Jesus did not come to condemn anyone. Jesus corrected people but he didn’t condemn and those are not the same thing. “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.” John 3:17 We are called to make disciples not to condemn people.

[@tonywilliams504]

I know you just read John 3:17 but continue to read what he says in just the next verse. Matter fact if you will read the whole chapter to get some context around what Jesus was explaining. John 3:18 says for those who believe in Him (Jesus) is not condemn, but whoever does not believe is what? Condemned already . Why is that person Condemned ? Because he/she has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. Jesus said this in his own words condemning everyone other than those who believe. The thing is this whether I bring it to a persons attention of the truth of there condemnation based of what Jesus meant they are already condemned. BUT THEY CAN BE SAVED BY DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY ARE BEING CONDEMNED FOR, WHICH IS BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST . He condemned, he loved, he saved, he freed, he talk about hell and heaven. But don’t say Jesus did not condemn because he surely did. He told the Pharisee nicodemus this. I agree with your point that correcting and condemning is two different things but Jesus accurately and perfect did both. Also, biblically speaking and trying to encourage you to read scripture. Don’t just read parts that are easy to understand read everything to get the context. I know we as human beings can want the easy route but for this convo,context is key.

[@tonywilliams504]

Indielush Secondly, people don’t have to stay condemned or be on there way to hell. ( Like I assume me and you once were) They can just believe . Jesus explains in detail why people stay condemned rather than be saved. “BECAUSE THEY LOVED THE DARKNESS RATHER THAN THE LIGHT.” How many people say ? “Yea I would believe in Jesus but..... or I’ll repent but ....... or I got my own relationship with God ( who specifically speaking they come up with a God to understands and will justify there sinful behavior. ) Loving the dark is simply why people hate the light, which is the truth of the Gospel.

[@kesheamedearis7350]

Well said.

[@kesheamedearis7350]

@@tonywilliams504 absolutely correct

[@ericgonzales4979]

Nah you’re mad bro. You are literally helping them escalate their art and provocation of their values not your “Christian” views. No one listens to those songs he has produced and says to themselves I am now inspired to follow God. You are influencing their culture with your skills... don’t listen to this c’mon man you should be better than this. Tired of these heroes of our Christianity being fake and idle

[@tonywilliams504]

I thought I was the only one. It’s a bit deceiving when you listen to people that are Christian side with the world . I’m completely at this point too because it’s leading people astray and makes it hard for people to tell the real from the fake

[@ericgonzales4979]

Cameron Neal these musicians are influencers in the Christian rap community, without them we wouldn’t have most of what is on rapzilla or the likes. Arguably many people came to faith because of their music and influence.

[@ericgonzales4979]

Ton Willi yea very deceiving...If we aren’t seeing any of the fruits of them meeting and working with these people sharing their “Christian” Faith... then is it even ministering to them? I’m not limiting the impact they have behind closed doors at all for we are called to be there for and with people but when you’re putting your work and your gifts under theirs then it’s just promoting the “secular” viewpoint.

[@TrayLittle]

This is good! Glad y'all are talking about this. I've been doing showing with Newsboys then will pop up at Tee Grizzley album release in Detroit. Glad that there is more people out there like me.

[@renesalas8863]

What does the Bible say?? “And what agreement does the temple of God have with idols? For we are the temple of the living God, as God said: I will dwell and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭6:16‬ ‭CSB‬‬ Come on Bro you know what’s up

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

AMEN

[@davidquarells4389]

Come on* not common

[@renesalas8863]

Auto correct.

[@s4cakagospelgorillaz98]

Music is worship period. It was created to worship God. So whether composing, producing, writing, singing, rapping or dancing. You are worshipping someone whether you know or acknowledge it.

[@malachicannon4554]

Love y'all for keeping it real and not religious ‼️💪🏾🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@minnieg6788]

So creating a beat for an artist that is singing/rapping about ungodly stuff is okay?

[@jelicianorwood24]

Its not okay. It shouldnt be okay.

[@mamasonia93]

You gotta know you’re reason for doing it. You May be the only Jesus they see...so be the light. Pray for wisdom

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Nah It's Definitely Not Ok...It's Helping Build Up Satan's Kingdom And Agenda.

[@bret0h]

Kyle Manning now think about it. What if some of those in that agenda made the switch and gave everything to God instead? That my good sir is why we need Christians be a beacon for God even in those industries

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

@@bret0h Do You Actually Think Jesus And His Disciples Would Make Music For People To Put Women Down, Spit Profanities, Brag About Doing Drugs, Alcohol, And Smoking Weed? Jesus Was A Carpenter, Do You Believe He Would Build An Altar So That Unbelievers Could Worship False Gods?

[@s4cakagospelgorillaz98]

I think we don't respect the power of music or darkness. Everything nowadays is, it's not that serious, it's just a beat or it's just music or it's just a tattoo or it's just sex. But it's giving a place to the enemy in our lives. This why we struggle so much in this generation because we think we can listen to, watch everything and do what we want and it won't effect our walk with God. We have access to so many resources. We can spread, hear and share the gospel at the click of a button. The church has billionaires, millionaires and prosperous in so many ways. Yet the bible says in the latter days it will be one of the worst times in church history. Lovers of self, money etc.. Lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God. Having a form of godliness but denying the power. So I don't go by what happens in pockets of the body or at my church. I look at the body as whole through the lenses of scripture. We are not in good shape spiritually. The church has comprised and it won't change or get better until judgment comes. I shake my head because we walk in th same pattern as the children of Israel. Idol worshipping these stars. Mixing and following the world. Most people do what's right in their own eyes. New age teachings and philosophies. These are praying times. It's time for narrow road living and I'm first partaker of this truth.

[@GodsPrincess323]

S4C AKA Gospel Gorillaz amen

[@austins4780]

Nice glasses Lecrae! 👓

[@IkennaOyenta]

Cool glasses Crae!

[@ericgonzales4979]

Here’s Ace’s argument: I’m an amazing administrator, yes I work for the KKK but that doesn’t mean I condone their behavior. I’m just simply being an influence and using my gifts to glorify God.

[@ericgonzales4979]

Admit a stretch but both invalid arguments and we as Christians should be more than another Christian in the room. If the people around us don’t change then what’s really happening...convicting

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Great Point!!!

[@ElenyM]

So if my family doesn’t change and become Christians then I’m not doing my job? Very invalid argument. And that sounds like a faith only based on works not on the Holy Spirit. Instead of judging what are you doing to disciple others? We all have to ask ourselves that question.

[@ericgonzales4979]

Indielush no your family doesn’t have to change but they should see a change or be able to distinguish something different in you/about you. The example I wrote is an exaggeration to the extreme but the point is you shouldn’t be involved in the wrong areas just to shed some light. If his kids were to go to a bunch of parties in high school where there’s underage drinking and drugs and sex, his son being there as a “Christian” isn’t stating anything but condones the behavior and says hey these people are cool with me.

[@ericgonzales4979]

Indielush Faith should provide fruit in yourself that shows. His name being on a record that isn’t glorifying god is a bad fruit unless somehow being set apart from the others fore mentioned.

[@ChrisloveCGO]

Thank you Ace for the candid advice to focus on the WHY.💎

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Why Would Anyone Help Satan Build Up his Kingdom?

[@ChrisloveCGO]

@@kylemanningjcic1333 Why will anyone who loves the Lord prevent Light from shining into the "Darkness"?

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

@@ChrisloveCGO Light Isn't Shining In Darkness, When The Christian Producer Is Making Music For Satan's Servants Of Music To Spit Lustful Lyrics, Profanities, Hate, Greed, And The Promotion Of Doing Drugs, Alcohol, Poppin Pills, And Puffing Weed. EPHESIANS 5:11

[@andrestephenson3602]

The WHY is money

[@IAMMIKEO]

100%. Great talk guys. 🤙🏼

[@isaacompton]

Isn't participation condoning? If I produce for an artist that promotes ungodly behavior am I not helping what I dont stand for, or an agenda I don't agree with... You would not be a silent partner of other thing you don't agree with. would a LGBT artist draw the new chick fil A logo...NO! Would a Trump supporter play for the Democratic convention , I guess it depends on how serious you are about whatever we are talking about. I don't think in clear conscience I could produce for an artist I thought was ungodly... I need to be proud of my work , play it for my children and grandparents.

[@jimmyadelaja]

I really needed this video. Much love❤️

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Why?

[@eraofawakening4659]

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭6:14-15, 17‬ ‭

[@laninaclay6276]

Do you have a secular job?

[@mysoulisanchored]

The "why" before the "what" huh. Uzzah had a good "why" before the "what" in steadying the ark of the covenant and God still killed him. I like these lecrae videos but this interview on this particular topic was way too broad. God don't accept everything we toss His way.

[@KennethJOkwok]

Samuel Hilliman your example is a good analogy for what he was trying to say

[@PrincesaDeDios74713]

And saul had a good why for disobeying God when he kept the amalakites' animals alive to sacrifice to God. But disobedience is disobedience and it is as the sin of witchcraft.

[@skuterkid...]

Hey guys, thanks for the insight! As a teenage producer it's super helpful to get some solid Christian insight on the secular/sacred rap thing. Keep killing it, y'all are dope🔥

[@howsthissound]

Thank you Lecrae and Ace. 🙏🏾💯

[@jkiture]

Promote Jesus and nothing else

[@curtisrandolph1867]

Lecrae music is 🔥🔥🔥 I can't cap with yall

[@curtisrandolph1867]

🤘

[@ryuncopeland803]

Jehoshaphat was corrected when he assisted the ungodly. If you help spread a message against the Word of God, in any way, is it a good thing? No, so why would we make a beat specifically for someone who isn't promoting Christ? If we had more assisting the brethren, instead of assisting people who don't serve God, a lot more people would be saved.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

AMEN...Why Would We Help Assist Artist Blaspheme God And Curse Mankind?

[@mingimiala5153]

Hi guys i Just wanted to say something. i read the comments below while watching the video and btw Lecrae i love ur music its dope and inspiring, really. First of all Jesus condemned our sins, not us. remember the story of the woman who committed adultery and her community wanted to stone her ( in the bible)? Jesus didn't condemn her but told her that her sins are forgiven and she shouldn't sin again. My point is that Jesus didn't come to judge and condemn us, he came to give us peace and show us the right way. We shouldn't judge people because of their actions, we are not God. We don't know what those artists ( the ones who don't make Christian music) we don't know how their relationship is with God. We Christians should help and teach each other knowledge and wisdom, leave the others, God has a plan for them.

[@billycasimir1469]

You gotta disable the comment section for a video like this 😭😭

[@wheeler116]

Nah you gotta keep it. That’s what makes it funny

[@ReverberatedBeats]

Great advice! All glory to God.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Trashy, Tricky, And Deceiving Advice.

[@adambata4667]

Lecrae, don't post anymore videos like this. The why is to give God glory with your gifts 1st and foremost. A lot of the music that Ace had produced doesn't glorify God. Instead it feeds the flesh, the very thing that can send people to hell.

[@maranata.24]

The main question is what is our mission and is what we are doing fulfilling the mission we are called to do.

[@qbantijero]

What is worse than condemning, is saying nothing at all!

[@ericgonzales4979]

What is lukewarm for $500

[@onedrop7817]

I think it is important for one to be at peace with decisions we make. Maybe God is able to use him as an example to the secular artists.a maybe God will use this to connect Christian artists to the secular so the christian can be a witness.

[@simonheadley274]

After all the public debate; what about, what scripture/ GOD has to say like.......What fellowship does light has with darkness!!? If you're the light ( Christian) why would you want to fulfill the deeds of darkness (evil)????

[@KINGMAKESMUSIC]

I make music and talk about my transformation and hopefully it'll help someone else

[@CegonhaFilmes]

Parabéns pelo Trabalho! Lacrae.

[@ajayjelin]

Dope video. Helped a lot 🙏🏾

[@champonnayacht7771]

Lecrae you are one of my favorite artists you are blessed by God with your amazing gift it would mean alot for you to do a NF reaction From your super fan ~Chancellor

[@BRUTHAWAR]

I think It’s cool that they are discussing these things. I would personally feel uncomfortable creating beats for someone who has a message that is a direct contradiction to what I stand for, but everyone is different. I also think It’s wack to be a Christian who publicly attacks someone when we disagree. Ace seems like a cool brotha & I still wish him the best. Blessings

[@antfitts5]

Your own words brother. “Your money your singleness marriage talent your time They were loaned to you to show the world that Christ is Divine That's why it's Christ in my rhymes That's why it's Christ all the time See my whole world is built around Him He's the life in my lines I refused to waste my life He's too true to chase that ice Here's my gifts and time 'cause I'm constantly trying to be used to praise the Christ If he's truly raised to life Then this news should change your life And by his grace you can put your faith in place that rules your days and nights Don't wanna waste my life, life, life” Just praying you get back to this. I have been in a valley myself. I remember hearing these lyrics and being inspired by them. I couldn’t get enough of what God was doing through you. But somewhere my fire started to dwindle. I stopped growing. I lost my passion and fire. I started justifying my lack of growth. But recently Jesus rescued me. He put lighter fluid back on the fire and threw some logs in. I pulled up this video to see what you were up to in your walk. Looks like you are going through some very similar things I had been going through. I’m praying this is not where you stay. I’m praying Gods spirit fuels your heart over your flesh. This video is nonsense. Love you brother. Come back

[@ksradioshow]

Put the why before the what...good stuff

[@PrincesaDeDios74713]

Unbiblical stuff

[@stephaniecovington770]

hey lecere i love your music and my name is keshaundra.

[@brianblissett108]

I really get tired of this secular vs christian rap thing. You're saved by faith in Jesus Christ not by the music you listen to. Many people have their own reasons for listening to secular music. I listen to secular music because I only like the beats, the flows, and some situations they talk about can be relatable. I dont like the lyrics but that doesnt mean i have to dislike the artists

[@jonathanalexander7363]

Brian Warren the most important thing of a song is the lyrics, the beat compliments the lyrics. Be mindful of the lyrics that are feeding your spirit💯👍🏾

[@brianblissett108]

@@jonathanalexander7363 i pay no attention to the lyrics of trap music because I've been taught that those things are not right. I also hate the stuff that they talk about doing and treating people

[@kb8866]

Many of us been there listening to that music. You're setting yourself up. The lyrics go in, even if you don't intently listen. Then your mind and heart will be affected, if not to your actions.

[@brianblissett108]

@@kb8866 it will affect your mind and heart if you let it

[@brendanvanwyk2834]

This was really helpful man

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

How So?

[@brendanvanwyk2834]

@@kylemanningjcic1333 As an aspiring music producer wanting to bring a change to the secular music industry and glorifying God throufg it; this is a relevant example of how to go about it. Although I don't necessarily agree with making music contrary to one's beliefs, this does give some clarity on how to approach working with artists with different a standpoint and morals. Keep on making life changing music Lecrae

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

@@brendanvanwyk2834 People Are Changed By The Preaching Of The Gospel And The Sealing And Filled Of The Holy Spirit. Is Producing Music For Secular Artist To Spit And Sing Vain And Profane Lyrics Over It Is Something Jesus And His Disciples Would Do? Those Secular Artist Who Ace Produced Music For, Would You Say That The Usd Them When They Rapped Over Ace's Music?

[@brendanvanwyk2834]

@@kylemanningjcic1333 I understand what you're saying man. As I said I don't agree with pushing music that isn't honoring God (even if it is secular music) but I thought this was helpful in providing a way to approach working with different types of artists eventhough I don't fully agree with his stand on this matter.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

@@brendanvanwyk2834 Cool...I Just Don't Want You To Be Deceived By Their Deceptive Approach. Have A Blessed Day.

[@mamasonia93]

Well said guys!

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

We Definitely Shouldn't Condone Christians Producing Music For Satan's Servants Of Music, But We Should Condemn The Action Not The Person. Producing Music For Satan's Servants Of Music Causes Confusion, Affirms The Secular Artist And Their Music, And Blurs Lines. Just Chill In Christ, Kyle Manning

[@JaaeKash]

I have a question: if someone who is less fortunate asks you for money and you give it to them and they go and buy drugs with that money instead of food or shelter, who’s fault is that? Yours or theirs? God gives gifts without repentance and the wealth of the wicked is held up for the righteous. What you do with your gift to take care of your family is between you and God. What that person does with that material is upon them.

[@harmonyam]

To create new it’s hard not to build off of what you know it takes more passion and love

[@jonathanalexander7363]

I don’t listen to any secular music, I just can’t rock with it. Thank God for CHH!🔥😎

[@traviswallace]

This should've been a topic on Andy Mineo's Podcast or just a longer video on this. 4 minutes is just not enough to wrap around this topic and then you stated you have hundreds of stories, which causes more intrigue. So, an extended version, more in dept and another person would 've been cool.

[@steed633]

I agree

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Why I'm I Not Surprised? Lol

[@renatopereira767]

💯

[@savesinnersrecords3715]

We must be light for darkness not helping to create darkness and calling it light.

[@B.S87]

Legenda? 🥺😭😭😭🇧🇷

[@danielflow4892]

Tbm queria!! 😞😥

[@Ghost88o9]

Sad that cray got away from what got him to where he is, Now he’s falling off and or watering down the message that Got him famous and actually mattered in the first place . If he started the way he is now he wouldn’t ever have blown up like he did. It’s like he used Christ to blow up and then slowly switched to worldly ways of doing things . 🙏🏼#pray4lecrae

[@pacochild4720]

lecrae's leg is at a weird angle for the whole video.

[@arlenawabule51]

😂😂😂😂 dude

[@blig5031]

At beginning of the video it looked like you had thiccc cartoon eyebrows

[@bewiseinc]

This is so good... #CultureMaking

[@ladyt280]

The song private show promtes lust and I actually liked that song can't believe he produced it. Wow he need to set the standard

[@freemanliberty1289]

🙌🏽OUR HEAVENLY FATHER YAHUAH and HIS SON YAHUSHA THE MESSIAH NEED TO BE SPOKEN MORE IN YOU ALL LYRICS💪🏽🤔🧐HALLELUYAH 🙌🏽

[@mikibt990]

What’s the name of the song from the beginning of the video

[@RenewedbyHim]

I think at the end of the day the Bible says do EVERYTHING for the glory of God. Whether you eat, drink, or whatever all for the glory of God. I get what Ace is saying like his presence is glorifiying God, but if he isn’t speaking about Jesus is it tho? I mean those same people he made “private show” with would call themselves Christian as well. I am not condemning at all, I’m just saying

[@PrincesaDeDios74713]

@1:29 how do you blend sacred and secular? Simple. You don't. 2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? Leviticus 10:10 ...And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. James 3:10-12 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

[@Dwaynebaileymusic]

Great content and believe this has helped me a lot. My question right now as a film maker is , is what I’m creating and using my talents for pleasing God? If it’s a no then for me I’ll have to pass on it. We can sacrifice getting a big pay check over pleasing The Father. That my friends is being Spirit led and not fleshly led. And believe God will reward our faithfulness or even if He just smiles that’s enough.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

You Gotta Be In It And Not Of? WELL, If You Are Producing Music For People To Spit Lustful, Violent, Raunchy, Vulgar, And Ungodly Lyrics, Then You Are DEFINITELY OF IT! That Advice Was Very Deceptive And Dangerous. See: EPHESIANS 5:11 Just Chill In Christ, Kyle Manning

[@sayrenee8427]

Ok. So what if I owned a cake shop and was a professional cake maker. And a customer asks me to make a cake for a bachelorette party. Am I to refuse service to them because I'm a Christian? Honest question, even though I dont really bake cakes.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

@@sayrenee8427 Good Question...It Depends. If They Want Me To Put A Picture Of A Stripper On It Then No...If They Want Me To Make A Big Cake For A Stripper To Come Out Of To Strip Then No. It Depends On How Much Information I Know About. I Also Say To Your Question Is This Something Jesus Would Do? If You Make Music And You Know That People Are Going To Spit Lustful, Violent, Raunchy, Vulgar, Demonic, And Ungodly Things On It Then You Be A Heathen Helper, Someone Who Is Building Up The Kingdom Of Darkness.

[@sayrenee8427]

@@kylemanningjcic1333 I understand. But what if that's the only view of Christ these people will see in their life? Sure he can make strictly gospel music or produce for only gospel artists but that's not reaching people who actually need to hear about Jesus, that's just beneficial to those who are already saved. We need people who are mature enough in their faith to step into the darkest of places who won't be influenced but be an influencer to those who don't know Jesus. This kind of task isn't for every believer I suppose because every believer is not strong enough to be in these types of situations or around these types of people for long periods of time without conforming. But I believe God is using HIM in this situation to do exactly what he is doing. Sometimes we as the church try to do things that only cater to the church thinking we're saving souls but we aren't going out and reaching people where they at. Almost any job you take you will be contributing to something evil. Sometimes you don't know sometimes you do. If I pour concrete for a living and get a job to pave a new driveway for a bar, I wouldnt turn them away because of what they do. I would do the job and do it WELL and be a witness to them. No Christians probably ever stepped foot at that bar and told the owner about who Jesus is, and now you get to, and they can't do nothing because you can't leave until u finish lol. I'm just saying make the most out of everything you do. He's a producer, who has clients that aren't Christian and rap about bad things...THATS PERFECT. He's just making the beat. If he was rapping like they were that's different, because now he's doing what they do and that's not good. Hes supposed to stand out. Think about YK Osiris. Lecrae took him under his wing as he was and now YK Osiris is exposing this demonic music industry and has a nice song out right now. I say all that to say, we don't know what they were called to do. I can say they are ones of few who actual get INTO the dark things of this world and try to bring people up. Jesus said go into all the WORLD and spread the gospel. You got to go into some places that others wouldnt to reach people. Just producing christian music ain't gone do nothing but attract Christians. But if these two men keep serving the people they working for, keep honoring them, keep identifying with them, keep loving them, they may just get to know the God they serve. It's all about identifying with people and meeting them where they're at.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

@@sayrenee8427 Where In The Bible Did The Disciples And Apostles Use Unbelievers To Minister To The Lost And Encourage The Saints? You Mean To Tell Me That Lecrae Can't Share The Gospel With Producers And Artists If he Doesn't Make Music With Them?

[@sayrenee8427]

@@kylemanningjcic1333 I'm not saying he's using those artists to minister to the lost, I'm saying he's using his gift to be involved with people who are lost instead of only making music for Christians. Like I said it'd be different if he was the one on the beat rapping about all these horrible things but he just makes the beats right? If not then I agree with you completely but if he's using his passion to reach people then why stop that? Those artists may never pick up a bible, never step foot in a church, never turn on Christian music, but they will have the opportunity to be friends and business partners with this producer who is a Christian. If we don't have people like this man going into these demonic industries, then the "world" and the body of Christ will have a big wall between them. Nobody on the worldly side wants to cross over because they have false perceptions of God or they dont want him. Nobody on the Christian side wants to cross over to the worldly side because they think that's "conforming". If mature believers who are strong in their faith and don't give into temptations easily would cross over to their world and identify with them, nonbelievers can see that this "jesus thing" is real and they'll come to the other side. You gotta build relationships with people in some way to win them over

[@bluislandful]

I love Reach Records and have the utmost respect for the artists and the movement. However I do believe mixing secular with sacred is compromise. All throughout Scripture God says and asks “what fellowship does light have with darkness? How can two walk together unless they agree? Don’t touch their filthy things”... and the list goes on. Again, I love the purity of Reach, because the music is at a higher standard than the world (and the music is just better in general, but I’m biased. lol). However, I don’t agree with producing music with secular artists, but perhaps there’s more about the business that I may not understand. But even then, money, business or not, I believe we are to hate what God hates. It’s a narrow road, and I don’t believe God would want us to flirt with the world by going so far as to help create the very content that He hates. Before Christ I was fly girl #1 and I was so wrapped up in a secular hip hop lifestyle like no body’s business, so I get it. However, being on the other side of it, I now recognize that there are only two sides - Kingdom of Heaven and kingdom of darkness. I believe straddling the fence is lukewarmness.

[@onedrop7817]

I have read some of the responses, and see some good truth, and good points. As a music fan for many years ( most genres ) , I have heard some good secular songs. Whether it has been encouraging, fun or telling a story. For a Christian to work with a secular artist, one does need to be aware of the song is saying, and how it has been birthed. A song that speaks of casual sex, or murder of course is a no no. Again, the Christian needs to go by their own conviction.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

As Christians We Go Back The Word Of God, Not By Our Own Convictions. The Only Convictions We Go By Is That Of The Holy Spirit, Not Ours, Which Can Change Like The Wind.

[@onedrop7817]

@@kylemanningjcic1333 yes..it is for the individual to know which is which. God will guide His children.

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

@@onedrop7817 God Will Always Guide His Children, But We Have To Be Willing To Follow And Be Obedient.

[@laninaclay6276]

Problem is some people want you to have their convictions and of you don't your not saved in their eyes.

[@DavidMadvaliev]

04:07 i dont find @LecraeBlessings on Instagram :D

[@CarlosRamirez-rq9zw]

Didn't Lucifer use music to influence the other Angel's thatfellwith him? This topic is something that really interests me cause I want to make music for God but I love the se ultra music aswell. That first sentence I wrote, I heard last night and it has changed my mind tbh.

[@enriqeaguilera7357]

Tu musica es la mejor muy buena saludo desde Argentina

[@martinj.5131]

Una pregunta tu fábrica las playeras me interesa

[@TheFirstAmendment]

Be in the world and not of it . There’s worship glory music and there’s just “ positive music with no anointing “” I prefer kanye west new album over a lot of these new “ Christian rappers “ or christans who rap WHATEVER because there’s a fire for GOD in that album AND HE ISNT AFRAID TO SHOW IT !

[@jayboss8963]

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[@subscribetopewdiepie7425]

Jay boss 3

[@santanamyhand6659]

Lecrae lecrae lecrae you my sir are straddling the fence, Rev. 3:15-17.

[@BG-pr1rx]

LOWKEY everybody complaining ohh he shouldn’t do this but at the end of the day. What’s the difference with any other job. I’m a baker I can provide you with my services and whatever u choose to do with it. That’s between you and God. If his Holy Spirit ain’t convicting him let him live. LOWKEY my convictions are different than others.

[@mikeyc1125]

Agreed if God has a problem with what Lecrae is doing God can talk 2 him hisself, God's voice is all that matters at the end of the day

[@adambata4667]

I understand that when we choose jobs/careers, it's important to do it because you love it. BUT, there should be boundaries and things that we do that Do Not compromise nor pervert our purpose for being here. Some of the music that Ace has produced is against Godly principles, i.e. TI and Chris Brown's private show. So, if we're supposed to represent Christ in our everyday lives, promoting and producing music that goes completely against Godly principles is where the boundaries should be If you consider yourself a follower of Jesus Christ.

[@samuel-ji1xp]

Wait he makes music for people who make music in the covens Hmmm

[@tonymiller1238]

Lecrae how important would you say following you dream is

[@tommy11sixorozco9]

If it aligns with your God given purpose in this world. Don't ponder on dreams that detract you from God's calling on your life.

[@tonymiller1238]

Tommy 1•1•Six Orozco I was going to ask him for a job @ Reach

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

We Must Pray That Our Dreams Line Up With The Lord's Will.

[@MrNoNameForYou]

You're so different now. I know I'm commenting on a year old video. I'm not who I was..you certainly aren't either. I miss who I was. I miss who you were too.

[@tevingarwe6877]

*** This is Heresy, do not be mislead. You can’t serve two masters at the same time, who are you serving and who are you glorifying? ***Be warned Exodus 34:14-15

[@pascalmakal]

ACE is one of the best producers in the game 📟🙌

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Wasted Talent Concerning Producing For The Ungodly.

[@jwoods3754]

My like made 900🙂I'm just saying... If I can be honest, Lecrae is a lot like Moses, Joseph and Daniel. Here's why I say that... We have these imperfect men of God, remaining true to the One true God, moving up in the secular world(Babylon & Egypt), working with, for or around unbelievers, and never compromises on their faith. Lecrae keep doing you brother!! Your work has blessed a lot of people. I don't know you personally but I still pray for you and your ministry💯💯💯

[@arzn253]

Secrae vs Sacrae

[@steed633]

Some Christians have a problem with this it's good for them but when staunch Christians want to force other Christians to believe that way that's when it's wrong and act like they're being deceived because they are supporting these artists that is wrong to what's good for you is not good for everyone else everybody should just pray and ask God for what God wants for them personally it might not be the same for everyone else just because you say something is wrong don't mean it's wrong for everyone else I don't care what scripture you try to bring up

[@kylemanningjcic1333]

Is Producing For These Ungodly Secular Artist Something We Should Be Proud Of As Christians? Should We Thank God For Them And Honor Them For Making Music For Satan's Servants Of Music? EPHESIANS 5:11 Should Be Applied To This Situation. Just Chill In Christ, Kyle Manning

[@Red33med48]

Lecrae!!!! I’ve been trying to reach out to you my 18 yo boy is super talented! He writes music and raps please check him out! He’s been doing this since he was 6! He always sang your songs now he’s writing his own! His stuff needs to be heard! It’s real! You will love him! You can help him! Please do! Thank you. God bless! 🤗