Fox Guest DEFENDS Dictatorships | The Kyle Kulinski Show

[@52flyingbicycles]

“We would rather have pro-American dictatorships than anti-American democracies” Well that explains a lot

[@bootmii98]

I'm not the only American who would rather have anti-American democracies.

[@smitty1647]

Wonder why they would end up anti american

[@X2LR8]

I mean yeah. Whatever is best for America wins.

[@Surelockohms]

​@@X2LR8but it's not good for the world and the development of other countries, we shouldn't influence other governments especially when it is continuing brutal regimes.

[@biocapsule7311]

That's basically the US foreign policy since Woodrow Wilson in a nutshell.

[@wilcee238]

It’s like we’re in a dystopian future, where the US is following the Amazon Prime directive.

[@FischerNilsA]

American capitalism has already assimilated large parts of the world. Resistance was bloody, but futile.

[@OvarosX]

Shhh everyone wants to believe that Biden actually has power don't shatter those poor conservatives delusions.

[@tonywilson4713]

Go check your history books (or at least Wikipedia) and check up on the *DEMOCRATICALLY* elected governments in places like Iran, Chile, Guatemala and Indonesia where the CIA backed coups to throw them out and replace those *DEMOCRATICALLY* elected governments with dictatorships. So long as the American corporations get what they want they'll kill anything.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

lmao

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

it's not new.....I believe the old term was called "Manifest Destiny" and the Monroe Doctrine...

[@Shadow-99x]

Imagine bragging about running in the same circles as Donald Rumsfeld.

[@jalenad11]

Rumsfeld blew the whistle on the Pentagon's inability to account for $2.3T on September 10, 2001

[@themadmattster9647]

ROFL

[@Usmcpb]

😂😂😂😢😢

[@nosondre]

Well, Donald Rumsfeld is dead. Good on him! Unfortunately, like Donald, all the other Bush era criminals will probably die peacefully from natural causes. No justice….just us.

[@nosondre]

@@jalenad11how convenient that a huge passenger jet flew right smack dab into the Pentagon accounting offices the very next day. You can’t make this shit up.

[@louisjacob7399]

Dear God, there is no limit with these goons.

[@stuffnuns]

Let us not forget the murder/assassination of Jamal Khashoggi.

[@philliphessel6788]

Foreign policy is mainly about what the dominant faction of capital wants. Had a revolution not deposed the Shah, my guess is the USA would have continued to try to moderate the Saudi-Iranian conflict instead of throwing all its weight against Iran.

[@Ghostyfrost9688]

Every single time Kyle says “dippy” it makes my day. It’s my favorite expression from him by far

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

Dicky Mcgeezacks is mine

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yeah dippy. 😅

[@eze6285]

YA DIPPY

[@Zeltroid9]

I love "drax them sklounts" even though I know it's from key and Peele. He's keeping it alive

[@BlueBeetle1939]

Draxx them sqlounst!

[@DarrellPoe]

Whoa. Crazy to hear him say it so casually. All part of the American right wing’s not-so-leisurely stroll towards authoritarianism.

[@buddygrimfield7954]

Both Parties work with/for outright Dictators. And neither repealed the Patriot Act, despite overwhelming public support for it.

[@Keithjames153]

It’s so interesting that you say that because as a right leaning libertarian, that’s literally exactly what we think of the left… not trying argue, it’s just interesting how both side view each other as controlling authoritarians lol

[@buddygrimfield7954]

@@Keithjames153nah. Leftists generally despise autocrats and overreach of authority. However, a lot of Centrist Liberals do tend to have a bent towards authoritarianism. But it is nothing like what the right has done. Or let alone what you intend to do, if Trump gets back in office. Just look at the policies that you support.

[@Keithjames153]

@@buddygrimfield7954 well to be fair I dnt intend to do anything.. I’m right wing by philosophy not by political tribalism so I’m no fan of trump. But what would say about that case with the web designer in Denver.. to me the left wanted to compel her to be required by LAW to design a website for a gay couple even if she didn’t want to while the right was like “why is this even a question, she’s a free citizen if she doesn’t want to design a website she doesn’t have to, no intervention needed.” That to me is a good example of the left being authoritarian… what’s your take on that?

[@buddygrimfield7954]

@@Keithjames153 I know of no such new Bill(s) having been introduced. Are you sure that you are not talking about the long since anti-discrimination laws? Do you recall the name of the Bill? And who introduced it? However, I have to admit that I would be somewhat conflicted about such a scenario. On one hand, I do agree with people who say that the owner of a business reserves the right to decline service. On the other hand, I also agree with those who say that discrimination based on someone's race, creed, sexual orientation etc. is not a valid reason to deny goods and services to a person. At least not without there being some legal repercussion(s). So, my answer to your question is yes. But it is not so cut and dry. Ultimately, I believe that the store owner should have the right to oblige or deny a service or product. However, it should also be the right of those who are refused said goods and services, to sue the ass off of the company in question. if the sole (stated) reason for the denial was based on the sexual orientation of the customer(s). Ust as the owner should (and does) have the right to contest the lawsuit in court, should they wish to do so. Anyway, yes. That would be an example of authoritarianism from the Left, if what you say they are trying to enact into law is true. Nevertheless, at least they are not trying to force women to birth unwanted children. What could possibly be more authoritarian than that??

[@moonmorth]

No sometimes you have to overthrow a government to install a dictatorship to help that freedom oil flow.

[@simonsobo4644]

Absolutely! What right do these foreigners to choose their own government? Those foreigners need to let Uncle Sam decide for them.

[@kenwelckle367]

He wants live under dictator ship. Let's give him one way ticket to North Korea

[@lenniebostone9123]

golf, the game of tratiors.

[@adrianpintea9675]

Dippy is a replica of a Diplodocus carnegii skeleton. Diplodocus means 'double-beamed' and refers to a set of bones attached to the underside of Dippy's tail. These bones are called chevrons. :)

[@donnydogpiss4533]

That's _soooooo_ hot. Say more dirty things...

[@jujutrini8412]

If only the general population in America understood that when these people say “pro American policy” they just mean “pro the small percentage of Americans that I like and it most likely will damage the rest of American lives but who cares!”

[@TrueGrandImperial]

* contradictions intensify *

[@redlion45]

Conservatives: we need a dictatorship, then we can own the libs Josip Broz Tito: Da, slažem se Conservatives: Noooooooo! Not like that 😭😭😭

[@DrSpaceCapeTV]

This is just more proof to me that golf is the worst sport.

[@Sparrows1121]

Stupida game - Furio (Sopranos)

[@donnydogpiss4533]

No, the worst sport is the one where all the naked men climb into that plexiglass cube and then a muscular lady rolls the cube down the slope while the ref masturbates, then at the end of the cube rolling, the naked guys all come out bloody and sometimes there's fecal matter. I get that it's steeped heavily in tradition and has a long history, but it's a terrible sport and they need to burn it to the ground.

[@julesdalli9716]

Golf is elitist.

[@johnross7545]

“We like Saudi Arabia.” Lmao HF

[@jessw2791]

“…our concern with human rights..” 😒😒😒😒 yeah, ok…what a crock

[@hylomorpher]

In principle, I believe in human rights and don't think that societies with conservative cultures are exempt from human rights. In practice, I find that "human rights," in the mouths of US politicians, is a euphemism for US imperialism.

[@xEnder515]

So much for America spreading democracy

[@joegillian314]

Right-wingers have no problem with dictatorships or authoritarianism, as long as THEY get to be the ones who are in charge. Right-wingism is inherently authoritarian because being on the right is really just about being on the side of the royalty/nobility, and historically, right-wingers have been the royalty/nobility, so right-wingism is really just the wealthy social elites being in favor of themselves. It really is that simple, and it always has been. It's just getting harder and harder for them to hide the truth of this in the modern era. And they have to hide it, because a plain reading of that political ideology is repulsive to 99.999% of people, because 99.999% of people don't get to the be the dictator.

[@richardhunter132]

the problem is that there are so many authoritarian governments around the globe. if we boycott some countries but not others, we leave ourselves open to the charge of hypocrisy. also, to an extent, free trade helps to spread ideas and influence these countries. if we boycott them, we lose that leverage. there are no easy answers

[@whatsupinspace854]

I swear... Lately the Washington Post has turned into the NY Post.

[@whodatboi2567]

When you said that he said the quiet part out loud I never imagined that he would be speaking out of a megaphone, holy shit. The fact that 'Pro-American Dictatorships' isn't an oxymoron says a lot about what being Pro-American really means.

[@Carlinisalive]

They are going mask off

[@mechanic6682]

I'd bet that guy is an unregistered foreign agent for Saudi Arabia.

[@SocialistStrike]

Mmmmm, I could go for some freedom juice -

[@nrsrymj]

Freedom is on the march bro 2:20

[@demoncookie6493]

Dictatorship and American should Never be in the same sentence

[@JConlon96]

PGA/LIV Golf merger is a disgrace

[@abrandnewday3581]

“Dippy!” I’m stealing this 😁

[@nickrouse8426]

Why am I just now hearing somebody say that the Saudis did 9/11 for the first time?

[@donalddude7568]

Kyle Saudi Arabia is changing women don't need to cover all the time like it is in Iran, they are also diversifying in economy and removing the radical Islamist elements. One Jamal Kashoggi doesn't mean entire country is bad and even Kashoggi wasn't some saint.

[@dawhi9818]

Great presentation!

[@tomthorsett1433]

Democracy in theory, dictatorship in practice.

[@lenniebostone9123]

those people only have alegience to greed and power. they would sell their own mother to the devil to get what they want.

[@mjnsf]

There is no such thing as a “pro-American,” dictatorship.

[@oldworldpatriot8920]

For real,every nation that has it out for us is a Dictatorship that has committed atrocities on its own people at some point or recklessly carry out their own imperialism on neighbors. Most democracies want the U.S in their side,or simply don’t have a state mandated opinion of the U.S one way or the other.

[@UndertheNeedle282]

Gotta love Kyle's delivery 😂

[@counterflow5719]

Thank God for Kyle K, he keeps me informed about where the "good fight" is headed.

[@mechanic6682]

8:20 did he just make a Freudian slip and say "golf allies" instead of "Gulf Allies"?

[@jimbob-robob]

When he means US needs allies who are pro American dictatorships, he specifically means right wing dictatorships NEVER left wing...

[@hochifeen]

What's going on with the Saudi PIF in football (soccer) at the moment is also quite shocking.

[@TonyMezaXD]

Kind of puts the whole Red Scare era into perspective, doesn’t it? It was never about spreading democracy.

[@matthewmcree1992]

100% correct. The second that the Bolsheviks took power in 1918, what happened? All the imperialist nations sent soldiers and weapons to support the White Army despite the fact that World War I had just destroyed Europe and the fact that the main European countries were broke from the costs of warfare. What happened when Salvador Allende's coalition took power DEMOCRATICALLY in Chile? First the US applied economic sanctions and tried to "make the economy scream", then after that didn't work, we supported the overthrow of the democratically elected government by General Augusto Pinochet. And what was the reasoning? As Henry Kissinger put it, "I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves." And despite the official line in the media, the Pentagon, and the State Department at the time; the real problem for the US was not that Chile would fail as a country under Allende's leadership and become some totalitarian society (because Allende was as committed to democracy as anyone on Earth and the US knew that), it was the danger that Chilean socialism would succeed and demonstrate that socialism can be democratic, thus showing the global working class that socialism was a real option if you want both freedom and equality. The US and our elites have always pretended to care about democracy, and the truth is that democracy only matters to the extent that the capitalists can capture and control it. Once democracy is captured in some way by the proletariat, it becomes a threat to capital and it's guaranteed to be overthrown OR subverted (as it is in the US).

[@TonyMezaXD]

@@matthewmcree1992 Exactly. Great analysis.

[@julesdalli9716]

The Red Scare was just the Jewish Question with an extra coat of paint.

[@tylerhackner9731]

Not surprised

[@lyndonbarsten393]

Right.

[@jmmclaughlin1989]

"American Interests" is essentially the focal point of this whole debate. And sometimes, concepts like "democracy," "liberty," and "human rights" aren't a part of "American interests," plain and simple. Sometimes it boils down to vital resources - energy sources, food, minerals, what have you - or security concerns in key regions of the world. It would be ideal to have pro-American democracies in most countries, but from Washington's viewpoint, a pro-American dictatorship or oligarchy is preferable to an anti-American democracy, plain and simple, so long as the U.S. gets what it wants.

[@BeHelpfulNotHurtful]

They didn't just by a sport but they choose the sport that caters to the elite. Sports washing with the sport that the rich watches and will all hear how Saudi Arabia has done nothing wrong repeatedly!

[@thedemonstrativelydouggied3063]

Love the jacket big guy! SUPER snazzy!

[@sethmann6397]

The Dumbald probably isn't worth much more than fifty million.

[@adwdwdwas]

How can he have been "on the front lines" and sell out so badly... the republican party sickens me more and more somehow (politicians, and the MAGA party of the right)

[@timothyjohnson6258]

When he said he was in the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 and worked with Rumsfeld, that gives him immunity for all of the rest of the stupid shit he says after that.

[@ar71498]

Kyle: "Who did 9/11??" Me: "...bush?"

[@americanliberal09]

Just wow!! 😳

[@royw-g3120]

Even JFK welcomed about 5 dictators into power.

[@scottr.4885]

"Our gulf allies" or "Our golf allies'?

[@CraigFlowersMusic]

Strategery.

[@eddy-nd7nh]

Republicans say the darndest things 😂

[@maggie1128]

Excellent points.

[@irodney47]

I could never quite envision strips malls throughput the Middle East

[@nosondre]

Why am I not surprised?🤔

[@karldehaut]

Thank you for your work. I happily offer a verbal sacrifice to the dark gods of algorithms...

[@Redsauce101]

Any type of governing system that represents the will of its people is better than any other one that doesn't. A good dictator is better than a corrupted democracy or in the USA's case a corporate oligarchy.

[@MichaelRomanov-li4gt]

I am sure that Hitler and Stalin said the same thing.

[@Redsauce101]

@@MichaelRomanov-li4gt A democracy tested deadly diseases on its own people and used them to clear vast tracts if land of people, a democracy enslaved millions of people and keeps millions enslaved to this day, a democracy has killed more people via warfare since WW2 then every other nation on earth combined, this 'democracy' is the only nation ever to use nuclear weapons against another, keep dozens of desperate nations in debt slavery and have hundreds of military bases around the world.

[@geedee1264]

The context is you don't have a ducking choice of you like it or not son. If you start to not like it that's when you get visits by shadowy people in the night, talking about the lovely little house your mother lives alone in

[@Redsauce101]

@@geedee1264 As opposed to stazi kidnapping people from all around the world and locking them in a circus of torture in Cuba.

[@simonsobo4644]

A good dictatorship? Seriously? Any examples of "good dictatorships?" Plus, say you're in a country where you have a good dictator and said good dictator dies? What then? The people who'd been living under a benevolent dictator have no say in the leader's successor. What if they wind up with someone who's less like the previous leader and more like Caligula. That's why I'd rather live in a poorly functioning democracy like the U.S.

[@cydonianmomentum3268]

To be fair, foreign policy is extremely contentious because each individual nation has their own culture, values, and sensibilities. But, I really don’t think advocating for despotic regimes as “sometimes necessary” is ideal. It’s bad enough that we rely on Saudi Arabia and other nations because of the need for natural resources, so it’s ideal that we don’t propagate more countries like them.

[@someothergrl16]

I hate that we keep talking about this kind of crap just so we can turn off another story about about how our leaders are driving this country right into the ground and grab a ham sandwich. Has everyone forgotten, “we are the company we keep.”

[@Sparrows1121]

Kinda insane that ultranationalism could happen in USA. But all it takes is one spark

[@leegaul2161]

Did you sleep through history class? The US was nothing but an ultranationalistic movement. From 1776 to the 1860s (Civil War), to 1910s (WW1), to 1940s (WW2), to 1950s (McCarthyism, spanning to the late 1980s (Cold War), then 2001 (Sep 11), and so on. If it weren't for the civil rights movements and anti-war protests of the 70s and 80s, we wouldn't have had the doldrums of the 90s. What I've written isn't even half of what led to insane levels of pro-WASP nationalism.

[@zzeetheus]

God Kyle, you are so fucking based. I wish I was Krystal so bad.

[@brandocabuto4313]

Are you going to talk about how democrats blocked SB14 in California?

[@aliceslab]

i like how people say kyle is bad at foreign policy. yet if you hold the opposite positions youre in favor of a bunch of terrible shit he calls out. the world is messed up because someone can do wrong and view it as righteous.

[@Enginshim]

If he isn’t lying, why be upset?

[@greggwgiddensable]

It's terrifying. . North American sports teams are gonna be owned by the Saudis and Chinese and what's after that, owning entire leagues! It's terrifying

[@mathiasmies7341]

Don't you know that Iran is very interested in studying nuclear sources of energy? That goes against our big money interests. If we can't squeeze billions in excess oil usage then some people will only be filthy rich and not stupid rich.

[@mechanic6682]

It's a good thing Biden came through with his promise to make MBS a pariah

[@themadmattster9647]

FREEDOM JUICE!

[@hylomorpher]

I'm pretty sure that US politicians use a different thesaurus in which "human rights and democracy" is a synonym for "imperialism"

[@oldworldpatriot8920]

Question; Are you the same type of Leftist that derides American support for Ukraine? If so,you are condoning Russian Imperialism,as Putin is not allowed to decide Ukraines future Alliances or military partnerships.

[@hylomorpher]

@@oldworldpatriot8920 I oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine, if that's what you're asking. So far, I haven't seen anything to make me oppose the current material support that the US is giving Ukraine.

[@66Sixxy]

Give golf back to Scotland.

[@rmaree10]

This is why nobody wants to debate Kyle ... Cause they know (j.cole voice 🎶)

[@julianloewen3374]

Coming from the guy who vociferously supports Bernie 💀💀

[@TheLastLineLive]

I’ll give him credit for being honest, at least, very rare from his circle.

[@typeviic1]

Take wait for Jimmy Dore's take in this. Oh wait, his far right audience................

[@lurice0]

9/11 victims rule

[@kalebaldwin5398]

These neocons have had a hard-on for Iran since the Shah was overthrown.

[@JustAnotherNamelessGuy]

Damm they really tryin hard to be tucker carlson

[@Stoned_apeTheory22]

The hair is too light for sunburnt Kyle

[@patfrahme484]

Love you Kyle. But thank you for reminding me to subscribe to Crystal...

[@humanhunter2322147]

Go left enough and you can keep your guns for use against fascists and generic dictator simps This message brought to you by your Friendly Neighborhood Anarchist 🏴🏴🏴🏴

[@chaos4one]

Please find the clips where Trump called out SA the first year of his campaign!! What happened???

[@antifazisbonifaz6964]

Because Iran nationalized his oil and even i think they didn't pay indemnizations to the big oil companies that's the reason Iran is the threat and not Saudi Arabia

[@yngstunna101]

Dictatorships aren't the problem. A dictatorship of the workers where democratic centralism and consensus is achieved over how resources are allocated based on needs isn't a bad thing. What we have now is a dictatorship of the wealthy elite ruling class.

[@sun1one1]

Consensus? LOL. Have you ever been part of an organization that tries to make decisions based on consensus? I have. It doesn't work. Either nothing gets done, or people in the minority are pressured to change their opinion just so something can get done!

[@PeytonDrozdWilliams]

Dictatorship of the proletariat is what we need!

[@_ASE_]

I would make major changes to the economic system and a countries constitution to achieve the same ends without authoritarianism. Get the public to ratify things through referenda that are good for workers and the planet ONCE and then they won't let go of what works well for them. Much of this can still become supreme law, but by popular vote and without the scary authy vibes.

[@smitty1647]

I think a dictatorship where the masses hold collective power isn't a dictatorship. It's a democracy

[@SurzhenkoAndrii]

Did you mean dictatorship of the party that pretends to protect the workers?

[@MSR-hi4lg]

So I guess this means you're going to stop watching the PGA Tour, right Kyle?

[@anton1949]

He's an honest Republican.Rare.

[@alexatedw]

This is a nothing burger. Kyles commentary blows

[@mozuesolympian2988]

Can anyone watching explain to me why you aren’t subbed

[@kjmps999]

Is his wife non binary?

[@greggwgiddensable]

Bro the hair is so weak... Hope you go back to normal soon cause it just ain't workin. See: Howard the Duck 1986

[@josephpacetexas]

PLO 😊😊

[@jasonpryor4210]

kYLE LOOKING SEXY TODAY !

[@rickywashington6058]

George Bush?

[@ghostwolf1435]

🎉🎉🎉

[@CrunchyDark]

Wtf....

[@ThaTruFily]

Mark Feces?

[@liseth2323]

Algorithm comment

[@bumblebeeyellowdragon]

It depends on the dictatorship. Napoleon was a dictator (he preferred the title Emperor) and he modernized economic systems, invented free religion as a state mandate, and created many equality policies that at the time (very early 1800s) were revolutionary and blasphemous to the monarchies of Europe. There's no such thing as inherently good or bad governments it's all in what they do.

[@adriankovac1943]

He also destroyed France's demographics with his incessant warmongering.

[@bumblebeeyellowdragon]

​​​@@adriankovac1943 He only started the peninsula war and invasion of Russia (which led to the last coalition war). Every other coalition war against him (and France) weren't started by him. Most of them were started by the UK who were bribing nations to fight France. Also the first coalition war was started by the French Revolution and nations angry that France overthrew their monarchy and he was only a commander at that time not in charge.

[@smitty1647]

Dictatorship is inherently bad because of the power structure (entire populace owned by one man) even a purely benevolent dictator would be preserving a power structure which is directly incentivized to commit atrocities to preserve elite control

[@hylomorpher]

I get where you're coming from, but I disagree almost completely. For me, the overriding focus should always be on how the system is set up, not on individual decisions or short-term outcomes. We should assume that politicians are going to be as evil as they can get away with being, and set up the system to minimize their ability to be evil. From that perspective, a representative democracy run by corrupt, selfish wannabe dictators is far preferable to an actual dictatorship run by a saint. The former system has a future. The latter system will turn into hell on earth as soon as the saint dies and his spoiled son takes over.

[@bumblebeeyellowdragon]

​​​​@@hylomorpherhe existence of the US by itself kinda disproves that theory of why it's better. Even if you have monarchs who are good but then get bad apple you can still get good monarchs. Make a system where only the corrupt gather together to rule you end up with a slow broken system that can't progress fast enough to deal with crisis and you're stuck in that system until a power hungry dictator usually right wing comes along.