Ben Shapiro Impotently Smears Atheism | The Kyle Kulinski Show

[@afterhourscinema782]

"Ask not what God can do for you, ask what God can do for Israel" *- Ben Shapiro*

[@ewrock7635]

(((The Daily Wire)))

[@beastalchemistVA]

Bomb a charity? I'm sure Ben is glad poor people aren't getting handouts anymore

[@Somedude54]

Ben would have a bs justification for the bombing of aid workers

[@luodeligesi7238]

The existence of that country disproves the whole notion of shared J-C values that Benny loves to throw out there. If that were true, they would be coexisting peacefully in the EU instead of needing to take a chunk of land from someone else in a far away land.

[@craigbrowning9448]

Oy-Fucking-Vey!

[@ArmaBiologica35]

Imangine being lectured on morality by the number one cheerleader of palestinean genocide.

[@Geenmoer748]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Somedude54]

So true exactly the point 😂

[@rx_420_mayhem9]

I couldn’t agree more , what a Monstrous snake

[@hanaaabed3662]

Exactly he’s a great liar he can never get away from his lies

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

Number 2. Biden is the leader of Zionists.

[@afterhourscinema782]

Of course Ben smears atheism. His entire viewpoint and existence depends on him being one of *"the chosen ones"*

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

I don't think he even really believes in god or anything spiritual. He is, or at least thinks he is, too smart for that. It's purely a matter of superiority for him.

[@Sarah-im3lp]

@@antonioscendrategattico2302And his contention that Jews are superior!

[@afterhourscinema782]

​@@antonioscendrategattico2302Exactly

[@LakesBee]

​@@antonioscendrategattico2302He's an orthodox jew, of course he believes in God.

[@marcozegikniet9301]

@@antonioscendrategattico2302 Religion is population control. And the coroporations he shills for defenitely want to control everything !

[@millionmarbles5612]

Christianity adopted paganism. Christmas is a pagan holiday, the early Christians wouldn’t know what Christmas is before the Romans adopted and changed it

[@stvdiapolitica]

There is precisely zero historical evidence that Christmas is a pagan holiday.

[@eldrickemc4602]

​@@stvdiapoliticabullshit!!! Lol 😂

[@akmal94ibrahim]

​@@stvdiapolitica There is precisely zero historical evidence that Christmas is a christian holiday. There, fixed it for you.

[@bladerunner3314]

@@stvdiapolitica Not the day, the date. But I guess you also don't know that just a few days ago, you basically worshipped Ostara, a pagan fertility goddess. Want to keep admitting you know nothing?

[@burninghard]

@@stvdiapolitica The Christmas tree is one. Case closed.

[@Tar-Von]

"A child's view of history " *Finally.* Someone who accurately defines _one of many_ of Ben's deeply flawed perspectives. It's like his entire childhood was spent sheltered from the rest of the world. Good god. lol Perfectly nailed that one.👌

[@miskatonic_alumni]

Chapo Trap House has hilarious reviews of his books here on YT. My personal favorite is their reaction to "On The Right Side of History," a book about history that revises and simplifies Western history into an actual fairy tale.

[@CHILDRENATPLAY2010]

Why does Ben think he's a philosopher? He can barely comprehend politics, and now he's misinterpreting Nietchze.

[@RepubliconCelebrityPresidents]

@CHILDRENATPLAY2010 he certainly wants to *PORTRAY* himself as a philosopher and a learned individual because he's banking on his viewers to not be intelligent enough to call him on his nonsense. But even He knows all he is is a virtue signaler like all of the grifters on the so-called "religious" right. Using Christianity to cosplay as if they have morals and values which they clearly don't, in order to get political clout.

[@isasooner5]

Well, Nietchze did say and believe a society without religion or God, would be a very dark society and will have endless problems and ultimately people will have to replace God as themselves as god!

[@andrewhansen1818]

@@isasooner5 'Nietzsche.' Yours just as much of an assumption as Shapiro's. Honestly, it sounds like the perspective of an indoctrinated Christian. I'm agnostic, though I lean atheistic, or at least with respect to the ridiculous myths of old. I'm also perfectly comfortable respecting my epistemological boundaries and not needing to impose answers where there is no evidence for such. At least some of us don't need the idea of god(s), regardless of what you think.

[@isasooner5]

@@andrewhansen1818 Maybe you should actually study what actually thought of God and actually study Islam. You people always speak from extreme ignorance.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

​@@isasooner5which god is right?

[@TurtleTimeVoiceOvers]

Christianity hasn’t been replaced with paganism. Paganism has been replaced with Christianity. 3:20

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

christianity is paganism. nothing has replace the other. man god, thats straight up pagan.

[@samboy90]

@@AsifKhan-hf9zy💯

[@amosbackstrom5366]

Wrong or not, paganism is baddass

[@TurtleTimeVoiceOvers]

@Abshirayamisra Exactly. Most Christian holidays originate in paganism. You’re welcome.

[@zenbear9952]

@@TurtleTimeVoiceOvers The one they sort of failed to get any traction on was halloween though that holiday isn't really anything like the old traditions where we used to talk to our ancestors and stuff. Holidays used to be more revolved around nature. Easter in spring to celebrate fertility and birth, Halloween in fall because thats when a lot of things start to die or hibernate, Christmas in winter would be party where people share the crops and food they've been harvesting because it's the hardest time of the year especially back than etc Than Christianity came along and tried to make everything about one guy.

[@RicardoGonzalez-bn5uu]

Ancient Greece wasn’t Judeo-Christian and they did a bit of philosophy…same with India, China, and Japan

[@tylerhackner9731]

Ben is not to be trusted

[@SconnerStudios]

The guy who sells you mypillow and birchgold? He's not to be trusted? The guy who has temper tantrums over people getting cancelled for their political opinions, then proceeds to do the same exact thing to his own employee and acts like he had nothing to do with it? The guy who rapped with Tom Macdonald? That guy's not to be trusted? Who *CAN* I trust then?

[@duderyandude9515]

He’s literally a racist grifter whose paid to lie so yeah

[@Sapioso]

When did you make this revelation?

[@westofthewicky2960]

@@SconnerStudios😂😂😂

[@imofage3947]

Shapiro is such a weaselly liar that if that sycophantic worm told me "the sky is blue", I would go outside to check.

[@PBaka13]

Does Ben even know that almost all christian holidays are stolen pagan holidays. So aren't they already to some degree practicing paganism.

[@luodeligesi7238]

Everyone knows the 300 Spartans fought at Thermopylae to protect the Bible 😂

[@justinmiller947]

Yes, and that has been an active discussion amongst Christians for centuries. The history is more complicated than Kyle seems to understand (considering he thinks the Christian idea of giving at Christmas is materialistic). While the early church took the imagery of pagan celebration, stripped away the pagan meaning and replaced it with Christian theology in order to make it easier for foreign cultures to relate to Christianity; this has been looked at by Christians and non-Christians as confusing at the least. But no, they are not actually practicing pagan beliefs. That is a bit anti-historical, even if I agree it is not appropriate.

[@luodeligesi7238]

@@justinmiller947 the Christian idea of giving at Christmas has been mostly replaced by the capitalist idea of buying. Christmas isn't pagan anymore, but it's certainly losing its Christian elements too.

[@bladerunner3314]

@@justinmiller947 Ostara, fertility goddoss, eggs and bunnies. Care to display more of your ignorance?

[@justinmiller947]

@@bladerunner3314 you'd have to clarify your point, because that doesn't disprove my point. Let me know what you think I am missing.

[@lauren8135]

It’s so weird this guy thinks paganism is the other side of the coin. Dude there not a lot of people out there surely worshipping the old Greek gods,Norse gods, Aztec gods Eygytian gods. Paganism is like basically extinct at this point when it comes to cultural relevance in modern day society.

[@Hunfrid91]

Hinduism is a pagan religion, and pagan religion are simply cultural religion. The abrahamic faiths is actually religious socialism that's why they hate it it's competition in mind think

[@didgya]

A perfect strawman for Ben 😅

[@ChadillacGrills]

I hear ya, but my goodness, you'd be surprised at the number of people who identify as neopagans, Hellenistic reconstructionists, etc., and unironically worship Greek gods and shit. It's wild.

[@gayasparagus]

Anything other than Christianity is paganism to many Christians. This comes from the apostle paul. Ben is pulling on those familiar terms to push his bs.

[@ballz4kidz]

@@ChadillacGrillsyeah, like 0.001% of the human population. It's completely marginal and they have no political power anywhere.

[@tsdvaks]

He also talks like Christianity & Judaism are aligned. The theology of them lead to different conclusions…

[@truthseeker-nv6ny]

Irony is if Christianity is true ben is going to hell

[@Moesly443]

That’s what Daily Wire is just an Israeli propaganda outlet to get Christians to support the Zionist project.

[@Neanderthal75]

It's just Shapiro is catering to his large, Evangelical base, that's all. We should ask if Ben has ever read the New Testament, which is regarded BS by Jews in the first place. If they would care or take it as Da TRUTH- there would be no Jews, all would be converted to Christianity a long time ago. The whole point of Judaism is waiting for the "real" Messiah who will do several mircales, including rebuilding the 2nd temple. That tells me Jesus is thought as a fraud and not a messiah, thus the Jews only care about the Old Testament which is basically part from the Torah.

[@alejandroquinonez1836]

This idiotic aligning of supposed Judeo-Christianity religious values is really just a byproduct of our political ties with Israel. A notion being pushed to try and convince evangelical american policymakers that not only should we be blindly devoted to aiding Israel for political reasons, but for religious ones as well.

[@rollingknuckleball]

@@truthseeker-nv6ny And ironically Christianity is idolatry according to Judaism. So literally being a Christian is being worse than a murderer in Judaism.

[@crazymallets]

Anyone noticed Ben’s “argument” was just a rant with him throwing in as many big words as possible to seem smart.

[@NoahBarzel]

And speaking fast, in other words gish galloping

[@Neanderthal75]

100% of every argument he makes. 100%BS and being outraged about it.

[@question-question]

Dawkins is wrong for even saying that much. Human values evolved before Judaism or Christianity. He should know better.

[@rollingknuckleball]

Dawkins out here pretending like humans didnt realize murder, theft, and adultery were immoral prior to Judaism. Like my guy, people have known about that since like the agricultural revolution.

[@jacobkobald1753]

I like Easter and Christmas that doesn’t make me Christian it makes me a member of western culture

[@Yinyara]

They are just "traditions" at this point in time. That's why there is a Santa figure and a Bunny figure with these celebrations. And all of it is driven by capitalist consumerism these days. Barely anyone celebrates it because of some 2000 years made up books.

[@bladerunner3314]

Just like drinking on St Patric's day doesn't make you Irish.

[@user-ui8xg4zp7i]

Shapiro sounds like he just took a hit of helium. Edit. Make that Helium On Speed.

[@westofthewicky2960]

And crack

[@SweetSkies478]

And testosterone deficiency

[@Somedude54]

😂😂😂

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

hit a heil ium?

[@user-ui8xg4zp7i]

@@AsifKhan-hf9zy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium

[@TREESIFF22]

Of course Ben makes out all atheists, agnostics, etc. to be bad people because his whole identity is based on his religion. That's quite literally the only thing that differentiates himself from other political commentators. It's laughable

[@luodeligesi7238]

"Pope of the Jews"😂

[@julesdalli9716]

I'm honestly bored of all this anti-athiest sentiment from the right. Believing that there isn't an invisible man in the sky shouldn't be sneered at.

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

yeah most of these clowns pretend to believe in dumb things to dupe dumb people for money... but Ben is a true believer.

[@777biggs]

I guess Ben thinks you have to believe in Santa to sing jingle bells...

[@elisawhitman8526]

A quarter of the world’s nations have laws that prohibit people from expressing “religiously offensive” views. So Ben is just plain wrong about how free speech is a religious concept or principle.

[@anthonytwohill9726]

One of the ten commandments is to not take the lord's name in vain. That's speech suppression as a core tenant right there. Add that to the rest of the laundry lists of stupidly oppressive crap that's in there.

[@AdamtheRed-]

Ben is the moneycounter whos table Jesus would overturn.

[@anthonytwohill9726]

Absolutely.

[@rsia08]

The Jordan Peterson response to this is going to make me cringe so hard I cause an apocalypse. I apologize in advance.

[@truthseeker-nv6ny]

What does he mean by cultural? What does he mean by Christian? What does he mean by liking hymns and cathedral?

[@rsia08]

@@truthseeker-nv6ny What do you mean by "What do you mean?" Also, while we're at it, what do you mean by what do you mean by "What do you mean?"

[@loganray3503]

Japan is one of the most non-religious countries in the world, has NEVER been influenced by any of the Abrahamic faiths and it is one of the safest, prosperous and advanced countries on the planet. Not to say it's perfect but it's much closer to a perfect society than any religious country is.

[@jakestumm4101]

Actually Christianity is exploding amongst the younger population.

[@loganray3503]

@@jakestumm4101 I'm pretty sure you've mixed up Japan with South Korea.

[@jex_one]

@@loganray3503facts, more younger Koreans (primarily American born Koreans) are Christian. Many southeast asian countries (even the primary Buddhist ones) are atheist except for their 1st generation American counterparts.

[@antifazisbonifaz6964]

And i think even China is better that the US with his blend of Marxism, Taoism and Buddhism. The only argument against this is that Marxism also belongs to the best judeo-Christian tradition (even tough it have been presented as his opposite)

[@Ironcorgi2]

That’s not necessarily true, Japan has a small portion of the population who is Christian. Though the majority of the population follows Shinto and Buddhist traditions.

[@GretgorPooper]

Ben Shapiro is so disingenuous it's depressing. Like, repeating the same BS about how the enlightenment was based on Christian values (they were literally in opposition to those values) over and over again won't make it true.

[@luodeligesi7238]

He also tries to insert his own religion in there too like it was a contributing factor to the Enlightenment 😂

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

@@luodeligesi7238 it was ------- who do you think financed the enlightment?

[@luodeligesi7238]

@@AsifKhan-hf9zy I'll tell you who didn't - Benny's group. Enlightenment scholars were pretty much against all religion.

[@avinashreji60]

@@luodeligesi7238 No the philosophers were religious but the arguments they made weren't necessarily from religion

[@bladerunner3314]

Today they repeat the same arguments for gawd they had in the 70s - they may reword them, but the core remains. Doesn't make it true. I've seen HUNDREDS of "Questions atheists can't answer" videos. There would be ten, if these smarti peeple would use google before hitting record.

[@velkyn1]

I suspect that Ben does everything impotently.

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

Just ask his dry wife😂

[@gayasparagus]

Impotent brains cause impotent actions.

[@Alexdenomme]

​@mytruecrimelibrary I cried when he said in his nasaly voice "I asked my wife, she said her p word should never be moist" or something to that affect. Is it just a fact that super conservative dudes don't satisfy their partner? Thank God for Rubin's sake he's a bottom.

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

@@mytruecrimelibrary whats wrong with having a dry sense of humor?

[@davidchapman7350]

@@AsifKhan-hf9zy nothing wrong with that, but if Ben is to be believed he wasn't talking about her humor being dry.

[@bryndrson8289]

"There can't be a practical reason for believing what isn't true. - [It's] a fundamental dishonesty and a fundamental treachery to intellectual integrity to hold a belief because you think it's useful and not because you think it's true." - Bertrand Russell (Why I am not a Christian)

[@hyponomeone]

Shroud of turin proves atheism and agnosticism incorrect. I'd go through the speel but the truth is that the info is all out there. Biblical prophecy referred to christ time and time again, predicted his crucifixion before crucifixion was even a thing. There is something to be said about the atheist claims being haphazard and dangerous when the atheist claims are objectively incorrect. Look into STURP and Paulo DiLazzaro papers. People who don't do their due dillegence on the shroud are practicing intellectual dishonesty. I have love for Kyle and all atheists. I watch Kyle's show often. But when you're wrong you're wrong, and the capital T Truth doesn't care ab ppls predilections. I'm only here to help. PS most of the crusades were fighting back foreign territorial gain. I have no opinion on the crusades. We live in 2024 and Israel is preparing to build the third temple which, if initiated, is where the literal antichrist comes into play. But whatever I'm just some guy.

[@frankjennings4489]

The first part of that quote is wishful thinking. The second part is definitely true.

[@bladerunner3314]

@@frankjennings4489 So you believe in lies, gotcha.

[@frankjennings4489]

@@bladerunner3314 I am sure I do believe in some lies, but if I knew which beliefs were lies, they wouldn't be true beliefs. They would be lies I'm telling to myself which I try to avoid whether it's practical or not.

[@bladerunner3314]

@@frankjennings4489 Are you religious?

[@AdmiralBison]

Religion is getting increasingly desperate as it is losing ground all over the world. No bigger threat to Religion than irrelevance and non-belief.

[@johnstaley8633]

I wrote a Paper about this in college. I came at it in a historical context. Western civilization had its foundations and sense of justice and individualism far before Christianity was even a thing. Plato and Socrates were debating justice half a millenia before Jesus was even born.

[@daveyhouston]

Religion predates Plato by thousands of years a belief in God!!

[@johnstaley8633]

@@daveyhouston What lol? And? that has nothing to do with Western Civilization. Every single culture around the globe had a pantheon. And The jews even during their origin had nothing to do with the development of Western culture in Greece and Rome. The jews were dominated by Eastern Empires like the Assyrians and Persians until Alexander came along, then Rome. Read a book. and not one about a make believe Sky daddy.

[@SmartDave60]

The church tried to throw Galileo in prison.

[@JoelER78]

I thought he was in prison for a time...

[@SmartDave60]

@@JoelER78 Galileo was condemned to lifelong imprisonment, but the sentence was carried out somewhat sympathetically and it amounted to house arrest rather than a prison sentence.

[@parse.thoughtspace]

Using paganism as a smear is comical in itself. The Roman empire was a marvel, and it was achieved under paganism.

[@trappedinamerica7740]

And for the majority of their existence Rome also had open homosexuality. It wasn’t until after converting to Christianity that Rome fell.

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

@@trappedinamerica7740 "......had open homosexuality. It wasn’t until after converting to Christianity that Rome fell." ------- stopped "rising"?

[@baha3alshamari152]

​@@trappedinamerica7740 Actually Rome survived 1000 years after adopting Christianity The rise of Islam destroyed Rome not Christianity

[@Moesly443]

@@trappedinamerica7740Rome didn’t have “homosexuality” it had pedastry which was grown men of higher classes molesting younger slave boys. Rome lived on in the Byzantine empire for hundreds more years under Orthodox Christianity.

[@Moesly443]

@@baha3alshamari152If you’re referring to the end of the western Roman Empire their fall had nothing to do with Islam. However Islam did bring a brand new form of civilization to the crumbling empires of the time. You’d really argue the rise of the Ummayids wasn’t a progressive force in the region along with the Persian empires such as the Savafids brought a revitalization of the decaying old regimes.

[@-7070]

Santa is actually a mixture of various Scandinavian and slavic pagen folklore, even down to riding the sleigh with reindeer and wearing red. A lot of Christian traditions are stollen from various pagen cultures

[@bladerunner3314]

Just look at Ostara.

[@MrMarinus18]

The tradition of the Christmas tree is German and was introduced into America by German immigrants.

[@neilbowler7866]

Shapiro isn't a good ambassador for religion.

[@westofthewicky2960]

He isn’t a good ambassador for much these days

[@sspbrazil]

He isn’t a good ambassador for just about anything.

[@jimbob9407]

@@sspbrazilthat why he has one of the largest podcasts? Want something to go with that cope ya got there?

[@sspbrazil]

@@jimbob9407 there are a lot of gullible people in the world, so the defense that his podcast is popular is not really compelling on any level really.

[@NunYabiznass-hd6dj]

​@@jimbob9407 I bet you think the same thing about Taylor swift, right?

[@magcarta]

Einstein said morals don't need to derive from faith, but are created through emotional bonds and social ties.

[@pdjinne65]

Interestingly Dawkins talks about it in the Selfish Gene, where morals are derived from things like survival and genetic proximity. Also, genes can program altruistic behavior in organisms, giving birth to empathy and moral values

[@justinmiller947]

Yes, the problem with that is that those are subjective and didn't logically lead to morals that someone like Kyle implies they believe in. German had these in the 40s... Turns out those connections can justify a lot of bad things. Now explain logically why Germany was bad. If it comes down to your opinion, then it wasn't actually bad in your worldview, just not what you prefer.

[@NunYabiznass-hd6dj]

​@@justinmiller947it's simple, I don't want to be stabbed, so other ppl probably don't want to be stabbed either, I kinda like my neighbor so I probably shouldn't stab them I don't need to believe in god to understand that I live in a society and we shouldn't be mean to each other

[@NunYabiznass-hd6dj]

​@@justinmiller947you're also completely ignoring Kyle's point that theocracies have historically been horrible, the crusades as Kyle pointed out were entirely religiously motivated, and at present day you have Buddhists killing Muslims in Asia for entirely religious reasons Religion does not equal morality, in more cases than not it leads to immorality in the name of false morality The worst places to live currently are theocracies (look at any Muslim nation) and the best are the most secular, as Kyle pointed out

[@justinmiller947]

@@NunYabiznass-hd6dj To your first point, i need to point out that from a rational standpoint, you don't want to be stabbed so you shouldn't stab someone else is silly, because other people will stab you if given the opportunity. If they want to stab you and you don't want to stab them, they win. It is a nice self-sacrificial idea, but doesn't line up with reality. This idea makes sense in a family, community, and even up to the national level (although not as cleanly as secularists like to pretend) for evolutionary reasons (you want your genes to pass on), but it doesn't hold up at all on the international level. Historically, the evil people who killed proactively were the successful ones who passed on their genes (and looking at what we did in the Middle East, south America, etc. it is still a very effective way of staying on top. I don't respect this idea as a basis for morality because it only works in very specific hypotheticals but not as a general rule. The world has historically been horrible. I think you and Kyle miss this point. You can easily point to any group of people throughout time and find the evil things they have done whether they were Christian or not (because all people are evil). But this is a straw man. Any Christian or atheist who claims Christians are better morally because they claim to be Christian is ill-informed or outright lying. But those who follow Christian teaching will make their communities a better place to live (not their own lives, other people's lives). This is a sleight of hand that Kyle tried to pull off badly. Those "secular" countries that he is talking about, follow Christian moral teachings, even when they do not believe those teachings themselves. Yes, on paper, they may seem more secular than the old European countries that claimed to be Christian, but in practice, they are still following Christian teachings. Yet, while they practice those beliefs, they still ally themselves with more powerful countries that do evil things for their own protection, because while the self-sacrificial mentality is nice, it is not rationally speaking a strong survival strategy.

[@notachannel7495]

How is it that the golden is rule so difficult to internalize that people need something external to magically enforce it? It ain't complicated - don't be an asshole. The rest will take care of itself. That some people seem to be starting from a point of, "well, everyone is going to be an asshole unless they have a reason to behave otherwise, so I'll be an asshole first, haha, checkmate!" says a lot about the people professing it. I don't care which place of worship you do or don't go to, if your natural state is to be an asshole, you're not someone I want near me.

[@MrMarinus18]

the problem here is that a fundamental part of Christianity of conversion. Forcing Christian beliefs on others is not a bug, it's a core feature. So religious freedom is by nature anti-Christian because it is a block to conversion.

[@shyguy778]

So does that mean we all believe in "Pagan replacement theory" now? I don't know what's going on with this "Cultural Judeo-Christian" right anymore.

[@joe_mama7590]

He’s wearing a magic beanie on his head telling others how to live.

[@donnydogpiss4533]

I mean, he's the only one who thinks it's magic.

[@christiamcruz7454]

I agree with your right to critisize him. Just dont go far off and make fun of that "beanie" which is know as a "Quipap" and we Christian Catholic tend to use it sometimes.

[@theredbar-cross8515]

The word "justice" comes from Latin... so it pre-dates Christianity by centuries, if not millennia. The USSR and other atheist countries still had courts and laws and legal systems.

[@vidyagaems4063]

USSR isn't exactly a good example of a moral or just country. Especially when it was ruled by Stalin, who's basically just a red Hitler.

[@theredbar-cross8515]

Yeah, I heard the Soviets supplied weapons to a genocide while the entire world watched in horror! OMG!@@vidyagaems4063

[@bladerunner3314]

You think Russia was atehist, at any given time? Hey, I have this bridge in Baltimore, wanna buy?

[@loyddussaultsr4181]

Shapiro talks a mile a minute and says jack

[@popcultureprogrammer2171]

honestly impressive

[@jjfordingpoursoulstudios8581]

Ben is the living embodiment of "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, befuddle them with bullshit."

[@jimbob9407]

That why he has a larger audience than Kyle?? Maybe cope harder

[@luodeligesi7238]

@@jimbob9407yet you're here boosting engagement on Kyle's channel 😂

[@jimbob9407]

@@luodeligesi7238and? So I should remain in my echo chamber like you? Why?

[@siddpadmanaban7710]

It's also important to note that Christmas originated as a pagan festival with no particular religious affiliation

[@anthonytwohill9726]

Yule log. They didn't precisely worship the sun but understood how and why it was necessary to sustain life.

[@spencerschubert5001]

I like Chinese food, so I’m a cultural Buddhist 🥴

[@glennyates2194]

Norway is one of the most secular/Mom-Religious countries on the planet. They are also one of the the most successful countries on Earth. All of the Scandinavian countries are happy and packed full of non-believers.

[@Yinyara]

We are indeed the happiest countries over here in Scandinavia. I bet it's because we non believers don't live in fear of some texts in a book or from a god someone made up. We don't have to hate "the other" 😊

[@WilliamMorfin]

There’s nothing more Christian than celebrating Santa Claus every year. 😏

[@ross4]

He said religion is about feelings, not facts. What happened to “facts don’t care about your feelings”?

[@rollingknuckleball]

Yeah well you see, facts dont care about ben''s religion. Which is why it has to be about feelings.

[@jasonruggles4622]

Roman Inquisition tried Galileo in 1633, found him "vehemently suspect of heresy", and sentenced him to house arrest where he remained until his death in 1642

[@jaidev777]

Ben Shapiro: "When you have a civilization that does promote virtue, capitalism can thrive." Timothy 6 : 18 "Tell them to use their money to lobby for more tax cuts for the rich and deregulation. They should be rich in yachts and private jets, and generous with their demands for more money in their megachurches, always being ready to complain that the poors are just lazy and need to git gud." Matthrew 21 : 12-13 "And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them who protested the selling and buying in the temple, and approached Trump who was selling Trump-branded bibles for his own gain, and said unto him, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; and ye have answered. Praise be to Trump, the chosen one, whose principles verily and clearly align with my teachings."

[@magnabosco210]

5:30 it’s not often pointed out, but religious people generally think that their gods are real/true for subjective reasons. It almost always comes down to subjective faith, the same subjective faith others use for thinking their gods are real.

[@Sapioso]

People like him opened my eyes as soon as child. By the 3rd grade I was finished with the idea of religion altogether, not just Christianity. It’s all about division at the end of the day.

[@jimbob9407]

What division?

[@Sapioso]

@@jimbob9407 believers vs non believers.

[@jimbob9407]

@@Sapiosoand what’s the division? That people have different views on reality? And??

[@Sapioso]

@@jimbob9407 read the Bible it’s pretty clear. If you don’t know, educate yourself. Playing the ignorant, or semantics game isn’t going to work here.

[@thinman25]

Evolution is not based on truth, but utility? Ben doesn't think being able to determine truth is evolutionarily beneficial?

[@bladerunner3314]

Say the guy believing in a fairy tale.

[@AP-op4rc]

It always makes me smile to think of Benny Shapps trying to do almost any blue collar job on this earth. Soldier, Welder, Plumber, bus driver. Any of those. Just try to picture it. Truly hilarious.

[@themartialartsapproach8786]

Religion is literally feelings over facts.

[@anthonytwohill9726]

There's a reason they call it faith instead of truth, no matter how hard Ben tries to relabel it.

[@cosmicprison9819]

And circumcision is mutilation, which makes it particularly ironic whenever Shapiro goes on and on about trans people. This and the “facts vs. feelings” debate are the two most delicious ironies about him.

[@christiamcruz7454]

Actually is based around the facts, then we proceed with the Faith not the feelings. Thats the whole beauty of religion. But theres another fact is by the we DIE thats when you'll see it for yourself wether God is real or not. I already believe in him. Now if you dont thats ok thats your freedom of Will, just by the time you passed away i hope to God you'll be greeded with open arms in the heavens because if i were you i would just keep my mouth shut and stop making fun of people who believes in God and instead respect them as we respect a ridiculo ateista like you.

[@jex_one]

Japan and South Korea aren’t really religious countries, they have religions but majority of ppl there are atheist and they’re doing just fine. Way better than the US on crime as well.

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

interesting you did nt mention north korea, lol............

[@trappedinamerica7740]

@@AsifKhan-hf9zyso? We could also mention very religious countries that are doing horrible

[@oscarwarren9709]

​@@AsifKhan-hf9zySo? The Democratic Republic of Congo is 92% Christian and there's all sorts of horrific things that go on there. Hell, look back at American history. When lynching was the most prevelant, it was Christians doing the lynching. Bad people do bad things, whether they use religion as an excuse to do it or not.

[@smoke726]

Your Jordan Peterson was on point Kyle, you had me busting lol... love your content

[@aaronjoly]

Jordan Peterson had his ass completely handed to him by debating Matt Dillahunty. You would think Ben would know better.

[@stormthrush37]

"Property rights are natural fights?" ...then why did the Native Americans see things totally different to stereotypical western thinking? "Christianity is the foundation for progress" ...then why is it the Church persecuted some of those top leaders like Galieo, and why didn't they admit he was right until 1979, well over 300 years later after he died under house arrest and excommunicated (sentenced to eternal afterlife torture) because of them? What about the Inquisition? Why did the Church ally with Hitler in WW2 and help Nazi war criminals escape? Why has the pedophile priest scandal still not been resolved after literally decades? If the Church can't get something as basic as the subject of child abuse, the sun being the center of solar system, or Hitler correct, should we really think of them as "the foundation of progress"?

[@NexxtTimeDontMiss]

It’s wild hearing a grown adult man cry about people not liking his fictional best friend

[@kendanger6874]

*only

[@zaad5273]

That Jordan Peterson impression was spot on 😂😂😂😂

[@thetruth8295]

Islamic theocracy was good for the ppl in , for us kurds for example the turks didn't fight us before they changed the political system. The west suffered Christianity but we didn't suffer from islam .

[@marcozegikniet9301]

Islam is even worse then christianity !

[@leinad2934]

women do

[@marcozegikniet9301]

@@leinad2934 Men also. The last thing i want in life is Islam

[@rollingknuckleball]

@@leinad2934 Oh no, a man who has waited for you as you have waited for him. The oppression of it all :(

[@OvarosX]

As a shaman I will stress the importance of atheistism, religious pride and cruelty makes it necessary that there be people willing to reject the faith for the greater good, to the universe it is more important for people to be good than it is for the universe to be worshipped, in the end it may be a cynical outlook but if you cannot have good and faith then faith should be rejected for good, the universe is ultimate wisdom so if the Christians the Jewish and the Muslim people must be removed to ensure the good inside of humanity that will be chosen! So to this i challenge the religious people to choose the path of love good and tolerances or risk the universe itself or to you god himself rejecting your faith not rejecting you but rejecting your faith! Also Ben talking of destroying god is a sin and an impossibility, god is the universe good luck destroying thatsomething that big and untouchable!

[@smoothtalkwith2014]

Interesting words my brother. Thank you for the wisdom.

[@pdjinne65]

Who cares what Benny Shabibo thinks. Dawkins will still be talked about 200 years from now, while he will be forgotten.

[@truthseeker-nv6ny]

What has Dawkins done that was so great? He was just one of those edgy neo athiests

[@baha3alshamari152]

You mean Dawkins the neo atheist transphobic genocide supporter wannabe 😂😂😂

[@pdjinne65]

@@truthseeker-nv6ny The selfish gene is quite great.

[@truthseeker-nv6ny]

@@pdjinne65 there have been many great biologists who had written many great works that are of the same level or greater. If Dawkins will be remembered 200 years later all of them will be remembered before him

[@pdjinne65]

​@@truthseeker-nv6ny To make it short, Dawkins had many original ideas worthy of remembering. He's an actual evolutionary scientist that gets cited all the time in papers and bilogy classes.

[@FIDIOT-cringe]

A LOT of Christmas traditions are based in Paganism. It was Christians saying "Hey Pagans! You have some Solstice rituals. Well, guess what. Us too!" Same with Easter. It's Spring rituals. "Hey, guess who was risen from the dead just like all the things that come back to life in Spring?" Personally, I'm a secular Christian. I believe there was a Jesus type person in history who was a rebel. Like one day he said *There's a lot more of us. Why are we letting them make us fight lions for their entertainment?" Then again, I was raised Lutheran. It's all parables & being nice

[@omark310tell6]

i like to think of myself as being a devout Muslim , but i would gladly favor an Atheist who stands against the ongoing "israeli" genocide in Gaza over a Theist ( be it a Christian or a Muslim or a Jew) who supports that genocide or acts as an apologist for it !!

[@luodeligesi7238]

21:50 "he should be Christian because it's useful to be Christian" 😂😂😂 Benny doesn't even know how faith works...

[@ethanlonchar]

So, I agree with Kyle like 99% of the time, but in this episode, I think his philosophical thinking and analysis wasn’t up to par with his usual standards. Regardless of what you think of Ben’s opinion, Kyle misunderstood it, and thus it was a strawman

[@didgya]

Seems like Dawkins is just being honest about his bias which is cultural Christianity. I dont think he is choosing it. Just accepting it.

[@Feaxhar]

I live in the Netherlands, where last year "more than half of the population proclaim they are either agnostic or atheist, making it the first agnostic/atheist country in the world.". So, mostly non-believers, you'd think that if we believe Ben our country would be a dystopian hellscape with only powerhungry narcissists, or wait.. "In the same week the report declaring the country to be agnostic/atheist was released, the United Nation’s World’s Happiness Report was also issued. With more non-believers than believers, the Netherlands still ranked #5 happiest country in the world." (I had a link here for reference to the news article where I quoted from, but apparently the YT bot sees that as spam and instantly deletes the comment. Google quotes for full article: Majority of Dutch people are now agnostic or atheist - The Holland Times) I really pity American atheists who have to put up with so much religious nonsense in their politics, it's insanity that in the year 2024 we still have 'adults' believing in a supreme imaginary friend and 2000 year old fairytales..

[@bernardoherrera3676]

Oh Ben... if it wasn't for the fact that we don't actually deviate from whatever he means by "nature", there is no way he would've made it to the top.

[@khiedwards3371]

Honestly your Jordan Peterson impersonation was SPOT ON 😂

[@liamcdm3689]

I don't take people that wear funny hats because their God told them to seriously.

[@thealgorithmluvsu3788]

"Personally I would never want to be a part of club, where you either have to wear a hat, or you can't" - George Carlin.

[@MementoMortis21]

The fact that there were two ad breaks in his less than 10 minute video tells you all you need to know about how much of a grift this is for Ben and his ilk.

[@kenmctrowe7731]

The ads are a pallet cleanser for the brain, they distract Ben's viewers away from thinking to hard about the shitty argument.

[@rudeoldguy]

If "paganism" is a religion, can I start getting tax write offs? Also, if you ever want to see baby Ben stutter, just bring up Exodus 21:20

[@AlanMars]

This was a good video. Watched the whole thing!

[@SconnerStudios]

What's the stock market at? Should I buy more Trump NFTs?

[@AlanMars]

​@@SconnerStudios Khajit Coin is the future

[@teresaamanfu7408]

⁠@@SconnerStudios Yes! Put all your life’s savings into Trump nft’s.😊

[@WizDomSon]

Shapiro never studied the greats like Plato. He states that the necessary and sufficient conditions (effectively, in philosophy terms) of ethical behavior are religious adherance and worship. I have a Bachelor's in philosophy partially because i saw the opportunity to form an ethical framework independently of religion. This is the great power of philosophy: logic and ethics. Peace and respect to all the believers.

[@WizDomSon]

@dewaldt8104 I have come back to Catholicism. I find many values in both books. I still maintain that the quilt of philosophy provides an ethical framework alone. The quest continues...

[@trevorgrover5619]

Religion is one of the few efforts I consider a total waste.

[@joepenguinptakk9224]

Paganus is Latin. It means the rural folk. Christianity spread in the cities first. If you think about it, Christians were the new urban liberal ‘woke’ religion, and once they took over the Empire, any hold outs were held in severe derision. Pagan came to mean polytheistic in a ‘deplorable’ sort of way. Today Christianity is in the same position that ‘Pagans’ once found themselves as young people leave church and search for new moral authorities to follow.

[@LazarheaD]

Shapiro has got to be one of the worst.

[@MrMarinus18]

17:12 one thing I also keep noticing with them using the USSR as an example is that they seem to think it just sprung up from nothing. The USSR was a continuation of the Russian empire. Locking people up in forced labor camps was something the tsars had been doing for centuries. The trans-Siberian railroad was largely build by prisoners who were forced to work. Oppressing the Ukrainians and stealing their food is also something the Russian empire had been doing for centuries. Most of his critics called Stalin the 'Red Tsar' and that description is very accurate. He pretty much was a tsar and did all the things the tsars did just under a different excuse.

[@calebrobinson6406]

If you were judging the success of a society by how long it has lasted on this planet, then Egypt has every civilization beat

[@anthonytwohill9726]

And Ben would say that they're pagan.

[@markbouvierjr.7446]

The Christian trolls are blowing up about Dawkins saying he's a cultural Christian. It's crazy!

[@Riverfox2012]

You cannot take any word from the bible as accurate. It's a patchwork quilt of cut and paste religious history.

[@jimbob9407]

You sound even more arrogant than trump

[@Hunfrid91]

​@@jimbob9407 He's right the Bible is just a remixed version of the enuma elish, sorry you never figured that out yet 😂😂😂

[@drogusmaxwell6640]

Fast food workers contribute more to society than most politicians, let alone Fox News "contributers", and they make more than $20/hr. The pure ego and hubris of these people is disgusting, and the lack of awareness is disturbing.

[@beastalchemistVA]

Ben, there have been crusades...

[@jimbob9407]

And?

[@beastalchemistVA]

​@@jimbob9407he's saying that without religion, there is ruthlessness. Like, the stuff he says is so easily disproven

[@jimbob9407]

@@beastalchemistVAyou mentioning the crusades doesn’t make him wrong. It makes your argument haphazardly and sloppy

[@beastalchemistVA]

​@@jimbob9407I don't have to try as hard when it comes to disproving what Ben says, because his arguments are inherently sloppy

[@jimbob9407]

@@beastalchemistVAwell you do if you want to make it seem like your view has been thought out rather than an emotional reaction.

[@kinghassy334]

Juduo-Christian values is an oxymoron because both religions claim themselves to be the one true religion and thus contradict each other. It's just the new way of separating whites from non white that the right developed after other ingroup/outgroup distinctions became unpopular

[@SconnerStudios]

CHANGE YOUR HAIR

[@SconnerStudios]

Daily hair rankings (might get deleted by youtube because they're anti-good hair): Silver (gets the gold today) Black (like my soul every time Kyle uploads a deminem hair video and not silver/black/or anything else) Pink/blue swirl (cotton candy debut) Reverse Mohawk with Viking helmet (new record for reverse mohawk with viking helmet) Bald (takes a dip today, invest now, better investment than Trump NFTs) Clown wig Pubes on head and lastly...shocker....*Deminem* Blonde who hates free speech and America and continues to be the bane of my existence because my existence and self-worth relies solely on Kyle's hair decisions.

[@greendude27]

you change your hair!

[@Zyo117]

With Ben Shapiro in the video, I'm not feeling the black. Silver tho

[@jugo1944]

Leave Sisqo era Kyle alone

[@SconnerStudios]

@@jugo1944 Sisqo was like 2000. it's 2038, time to catch up.

[@robert5897]

Not a knowledging that minimum wage creates unemployement and thinking that inflation is the consequence of “corporate greed” rather than a monetary phenomenon, is just like denying evolution and believing in creationism, believing that climate change is not real or that the earth is flat. It's incredible how Kyle is so alike the right-wingers that he despices. Kyle, you even praise Richard Wolff, who is the most famous flat earther of economics. Love your show, Kyle. ❤

[@grapes9h5]

Every talking point he spouts is inherently contradictory and just nonsense he’s trying to make sound simultaneously pseudo-intellectual and directed at illiterates or very old and/or isolated people. Pure motivated “reasoning”.

[@BigHatSupremacist]

Justice->Community Cohesion->survival of community and its members->Justice has evolutionary value Objective truth->accurate prediction->better success rates for whatever you're doing->increased survival->objective truth has evolutionary value very simple lines

[@slight7241]

Great Britain is an example of how secularists and theologists mix well. Secularism will always allow the religion to be around and never force anyone to not be, very rarely will you see any religious people in GB argue against people having equal opportunity based on who you inherently are, now we're a progressive society (an encouraging change towards society regardless of belief). However when you have multiple theologies mix in society like Muslims not wanting to assimilate to British society and/ or respect British culture, and openly say they want to enforce sharia law in the UK, that's when you clearly see a theological society doesn't work. It has never worked. You can probably make the case that the British abolished slavery because of Liberal principles that was also introduced into England around the same time as the Age of Enlightment. Theologies at any opportunity will want to take control of PEOPLE, especially using America as an example. When you have every educated person be against Gender ideology, we can easily disprove it with facts, logic and truth based on science. Then you have right wing political grifters who then try to impose Christianity onto everyone else. One recently was when Lauren Chen said anyone who isn't Christian and gets married, is committing Sin.... which is a dangerous rhetoric to push. It implies they created morality, which is impossible because morality is a measurement of good and bad deed or thought. They think just because they discovered the concept that they own it, whether that's marriage or mortality. When you still have people like Matt Walsh say gays shouldn't be able to get married, then Joe Rogan defending gay marriage against him because he's a true liberal in the sense of freedom and liberty for all. I've been liberal all my life and the recent crazy far left ideological doesn't push me to the right, it just means they pushed them selves further left and then when conservatives also argue it but on the grounds of theology and god instead of science it really starts to show anti freedom they WANT to be. Church must always be separate from state and that's what's its been like in GB for a very long time but in America... you have the conservatives passing hate speech laws expanding the definition of Antisemitism because of some college protests, which then goes against Christianity, making these religious right wing political grifters mad. Right wing commentator grifters = we don't care about the right of freedom to protest until it affects out theology. US Politicians = it doesn't matter as long as Israel keeps paying us. Also it was really great when they let Jesus say whatever he wanted and not murder him or when a woman refused being a witch and her word was enough to get her out of being burned alive or drowned, or when people today appose children in Islam being r*ped and married at the age of 12.... yano the historical religious free speech. Ben is a tool.

[@shyguy778]

On Kyle's "anyone who reads the bible" part on capitalism, ANYONE WHO LISTENS TO THE POPE as well. Look at EVERY SINGLE ACTION of those "Megachurch" pastors!

[@AceFondu]

I'm an atheist, I like the architecture of churches and mosques, etc. They are creative in a world of large rectangle glass towers.

[@xXxjayceexXx]

Why did California carve out fast food workers for the $20 minimum wage. What are others making and why is it different?

[@NoName-cz3wn]

While Dawkins was always terrible on the issue of Islamophobia, I still didn't have "Alex Jones has better takes on this than Richard Dawkins" on my 2024 Bingo card

[@xavery7842]

What I find extremely problematic is how there are people who speak about others trying to shove ideology down their throats while it's themselves pushing to do exactly that. What happened to the free transfer of ideas rather than trying to rewrite history and make everyone conform to the ideals based upon bigotry, religious zealots and fear?

[@CrimeDoesNotPay]

The first mistake was assuming Shapiro knows anything whatsoever about our Jesus. The root of his religion denies Christ 😂

[@frankjennings4489]

Very funny to hear his Nietzche take. Nietzche wasn’t warning us about the rise of the ubermensch. He was telling us to become an ubermensch. Nietzche despised the “slave morality” of Christianity. Yes he did also predict that horrors would result from the death of God in the popular consciousness and he wasn’t wrong, but he wasn’t saying that Christianity was a tenable ideology.

[@ElPolloDiabloCH]

Ben is the incarnation of unearned confidence.

[@MrMarinus18]

14:00 The thing is that this is exactly what the US is build on. The enlightement was indeed build on Christian values and the US was an attempt to break from that.

[@vertigo2894]

The Greeks and the Romans set the western civilisational model, not christianity.

[@ingemaus6368]

About church/religion. I don’t think Americans understand that concept of “cultural Christian”. In most of Europe, our churches mean so much more than religion. Those impressive buildings are part of our history and culture, full of pieces of art. Europe is the birth place of classical music, so of course we love hymns and Christmas songs . And I miss all of that including the church bells! Lifelong atheist here (30 yr.germany/34 yr.USA)

[@cameronostrander7140]

That is an awesome parody of Jordan Peterson, almost Kermit-like. Which, when he tries to make point, he sounds exactly like!

[@happyliving1922]

Bible: "We're created in the image of God." Ben: "Let me explain how this means billionaires deserve to be richer."