See Saw Margery Daw: Sordid Secrets Revealed

[@markpaterson2053]

I'm 57 and I literally haven't thought about or heard any children mention See-Saw Margery Daw since I was a kid. It was startling, seeing the thumbnail and remembering something I'd forgotten around 50 years ago.

[@mr.b.w.3146]

I'm 58 and ditto to what you said

[@Captain-Cardboard]

Again, exactly the same for me. I haven't heard or thought of Margery Daw since the mid-1970s , when my mother would sing it as me and my sister played on the see-saw at our local park. 27 years old, I was!

[@philipmulligan4325]

53 and snap

[@markpaterson2053]

@@Captain-Cardboard Ha ha, admire your honesty, even if you're joking

[@markpaterson2053]

@@senianns9522 There's an entire generation of us who've forgotten, I think

[@Rayda56756]

I grew up with all the old nursery rhymes. Now nearing 70 I left the old country in the very early 1960’s for New Zealand. Over the years it’s evident just how forgotten these old nursery rhymes have become. Having travelled back to the old country some 40 odd years later only to be affiliated with York, London, Cornwall & Scotland became aware of the origination of the nursery rhymes. My surname being Dawes I had no idea just how close to home “see saw Marjory Daw” was to me? So I thank you for this informative video. Being a lover of history, in all my years had been so near to yet so far from my reality in this realm.

[@susangarvey9415]

My mother used to sing the Nursery Rhymes to me, and I in turn sang them to my kids in the 1980's. My grandchildren loved them too, my eldest grandson thought the song Bobby Shaftoe was about him.

[@tamarrajames3590]

I learned the rhyme from my Grandmother singing a version of it, not all in English that I understood. We lived on an orchard farm with a self sufficiency farm for our own needs. Gran always made a dolly from the last stoop of hay cut for the cows and sheep for winter feed. She sang the rhyme as she wove the dolly, and set her on the shelf of the barn door, where the top opened, leaving the bottom closed. Her people were Cornish and Scottish, and she had a lot of little “charms” and rhymes she did at different times in the year. She said the dolly kept the life of the field over Winter , until it went back to the field in the Spring. The dolly was put in the first row, and I wasn’t to play with it. I enjoyed the different verses and your thoughts on them. I hadn’t thought of that in many years.🖤🇨🇦

[@kevsbored]

I was always told that this was an critique of the industrial revolution and that the because he can't work any faster was a reference to the mechanisation of many working class jobs in that period. And that was by my grandparents who would have remembered relatives who were sent to the workhouse!

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Great interpretation! Thanks for sharing! The version of "jacky shall have a new master" we're discussing dates back to 1775. That does seem a little early as widespread mechanization hadn't occurred then, but it's not impossible. Perhaps the rhyme reflects concerns about the possibility of machines replacing human labour (strangely similar to our modern world regarding computers!)

[@paulawolff3456]

I always loved nursery rhymes and passed my books down to my daughter. On her death I got them back and gave them to her granddaughter, my great-granddaughter. I always feel you can learn some history and not just a good rhyme. Thank you for this channel and your wonderful voice.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

I appreciate your kind words! Thank you for being here 🖤 :)

[@greeboX]

"My fellow darklings"... I love this every time you say it. 🤩 And every time i am fascinated by your videos

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you so much! That makes me so happy to hear! :) 🖤

[@robertbruce7686]

I gleep with dark satisfaction each time 😆

[@takohamoolsen2486]

Interesting. My late mum grew up in Cornwall and told me about the dolly dunking ritual. As a young girl, her first job was at a Cornish doll factory, and as a young woman with a family, she also worked at a clothing store called 'Marjory Daw' in Sydney, Australia. Such beautiful clothes they made too.

[@cath3638]

You never fail to research your subject thoroughly and present it concisely and beautifully! Thank you. It would appear that this rhyme began in one era and its meaning altered through a changing world. The goddess landed up in the workhouse....fascinating.

[@zebra3519]

Another wonderful upload for a Sunday. You have a lovely voice.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you! That's so sweet of you :) 🖤

[@nigeldunkley2986]

Well it’s true! Perfect diction, so clear and precise. Pity you don’t read the news!

[@anthonycalbillo9376]

I live in the United States, we also have these (in the older playgrounds), but they're phasing them out. These and merry -go-rounds, are starting to go away. Sad.

[@HitomiKitage]

It's all for safety reasons. We're trying to keep our kids safer than we were.

[@Todd.P]

@@HitomiKitage LOL. Yeah, right.

[@anthonycalbillo9376]

@@HitomiKitage Yes, I remember playing on them too. No helmets for our bikes, and playing in the streets until sundown.

[@moiramarriott4403]

​@@HitomiKitage so children are allowed to go online , unsupervised . Eat food full of chemicals and when bored resorr to drugs .. Not all of course but safety comes in many guises .

[@daniellewillis2767]

​@HitomiKitage our kids are too safe for their own development

[@labethspain7936]

After tracing family roots from Cornwall, England in the 1600’s to Canada, then America and knowing my father (and his father) were “sawyers” in local lumber mills lends interest to this fascinating tale ~ Thank You! ❤

[@francesbernard2445]

So very interesting. Sawyers instead of lawyers and log drivers instead of war horse riders.

[@Alignedwithmyself]

My grandfather was born in a Cornish workhouse. I chanted all these rhymes as a child; it's a shame we are losing them, they were a normal part of childhood along with hymns and carols. We moved to Wales from Cornwall when i was 10. Wish we could afford to move back.

[@whatsanenigma]

Have you ever seen the Australian cartoon "Bluey"? If not, you will be happy to know that "See Saw, Marjorie Daw" is in at least one of those episodes. The episode is called "See Saw" and at one point kids are singing it in the background like it's the most standard thing to do in the world when you get on a see saw.

[@andydavis8437]

I just want to say these stories are getting better and better. Seems the more innocent the rhyme, the darker the history. I particularly like the Cornwall connection here.

[@HookBeak_66]

I once had a conversation with a primary school teacher, they told me that the rhymes that children were taught to them by their teachers/parents/relatives were originally created by adults for adults, in the local taverns. To be later altered & made suitable for children.

[@jonathangriffin1120]

I was always led to believe that a lot of nursery rhymes were in fact, political satire, a famous one that was local to me was 'Little Jack Horner' which relates to Mells, Somerset.

[@alfeersum]

I like the Cornish angle - they tend to get left out when it comes to British history, but I suspect Cornwall has a lot more influence than many give it credit for. Especially as one of the main reasons Rome came to Britain was to get their grubby little hands on Cornish tin - at the time, the biggest supplier in the world.

[@patricedesvarieux2856]

All of this was total new for me. I used to sing the “see saw” song as a little one but these stories really opened up my eyes. I wonder if she was a saint. Thank you again for another fascinating video. I always look forward to them. 🙂

[@monicacall7532]

I always look forward to your new videos. They always make me rethink all of the nursery rhymes that I learned as a little girl. Thank you.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

That's wonderful to hear! Thank you for your support, I truly appreciate it 🖤

[@mauricebate5069]

Another fascinating story ! Never heard the verse about sleeping on straw before 🤔 thank you for your professional narration 👍👍👍👍👍

[@The-Resurrectionists]

I appreciate your kind words! Thank you for being here 🖤

[@M-demo]

Thank you for your post. I cannot recall any nursery rhymes that convey a purely happy or innocent atmosphere. I believe each one has variations within their respective communities. As people traveled across the country, they likely spread these different versions. It's quite fascinating.

[@westzed23]

This is very fascinating to me. This rhyme is not one I heard in Western Canada growing up. There were never any workhouses on the prairies but harvest was extremely important for this agricultural land. We called the plaything a see-saw here, as they call it a teeter-tawter in the US.

[@helenhighwater5313]

@@weareboundtooneanother "teeter"...to wobble .

[@Vasislaw]

These wonderful snippets are always fascinating. Thank you for the time you take in sourcing your material.

[@arthurwebber-g4l]

I am now a true darkling. I love all this stuf. Thank you.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

I'm thrilled to hear that! Thank you for your support 🖤

[@louisev9707]

I love how unlocking these nursery rhymes also unlocks the meaning of so many common Anglo names! It never occurred to me that 'sawyers' were carpenters until listening to this. I feel like coming up with a rhyme to accompany the monotony of work is quite plausible. It is a way to keep rhythm and pace as well as to occupy the workers (and I can imagine with the variances of lyrics, sawyers riffing off the lines with other sledges and quips to keep them amused)

[@savetommyrobinsonfreespeec7660]

I could listen to this beautiful voice for hours!

[@bigblue6917]

Thank you for the video. Very enjoyable and informative as always. One idea put forward for Johnny only earning a penny a day was that he was on a piece-rate and so he only earned a penny because, as it says, he could not work any fast.

[@deniseelsworth7816]

I can't believe I had forgotten this rhyme completely. I can't decide what I think on this one. Unlike the others. Fascinating about the Cornish goddess I knew nothing about her either.

[@mariannebarlow8336]

I love history, the English language and hearing about the origin of nursery rhymes. Your videos are wonderful!! 😊

[@The-Resurrectionists]

That's wonderful to hear! Thanks for being a part of the community 🖤

[@thehomeschoolinglibrarian]

A very interesting video about a rhyme I have never heard of. I do love these histories.

[@TedCornish]

Lovely seeing Cornwall getting a credit 👍👍

[@roxerforlife3663]

Its amazing and blows my mind that all these nursery rhymes are hundred+ years old and we still are saying them. Even if the original means are most likely lost or distorted, they are still around. Very powerful ❤

[@JenneeB927]

This was a fascinating video. I've, personally, never heard this rhyme before. I'm not sure what to think of the context of it. Thank you for another excellent video.

[@EllisR.]

I found myself wondering as I watched and listened if all of the various speculations are actually cumulative contributing factors for its final or at least later versions. Nothing seems to contradict or challenge earlier or later interpretations.But its possible alternative meanings seem to develop as it passes through various popular uses and their changing, evolving relevance and interpretations.

[@missjoshemmett]

You're always fascinating and your real voice is much better all the AIs we are getting today! From a Darkling.

[@deniswilliams2212]

Please keep them coming they are informative interesting and intelligent The “I’s” have it

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you! I'm grateful for your encouragement! 🖤

[@deanmartin6052]

I love your voice, I could listen to you narrate all day long.

[@kungfutuber]

There aren't many videos I need to play twice. With this, the first is to listen to your captivating exploration of this rhyme as rightly mentioned in your description and a second to appreciate your fabulous, articulate and beautiful narration. Subscribed 👍

[@Nanaonhotwheels]

What a find stumbling on your channel. The dark origins of nursery rhymes have long fascinated me but I only know ages. Thanks for the explanations.

[@hebbyhope2094]

Another great video, I really enjoyed it. So very interesting. Thank you L. 😊♥♥

[@The-Resurrectionists]

You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤

[@RaAvim]

I was about to comment that you were showing wheat instead of corn, but I decided to look up corn in England and discovered something I didn't know. Corn in Europe refers to any small hard cereal grain locally. So not only did I learn something about an old children's rhyme, but I learned something about colloquial English. A 2 for 1 video.

[@helenhighwater5313]

I learned that in my childhood Bible lessons, written in the King James English..."except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it shall not bear fruit..."

[@DanielMatthews-ql3wf]

My uncle started as a carpenter by sawing wood planks and studs back before they had circular saws. His reaction when I asked was it is a great way to build arm strength.

[@benjones4365]

Sawing wood into planks was a highly skilled job. The Top Sawyer, not only had to pull the saw back up, but also keep the saw strait and the thickness of the plank correct. I doubt very much if they did that drunk. It is however true that workers during the 17 & 1800's did drink a lot of very week beer, Ale & cyder etc, as the quality of the water was not guaranteed.

[@bluecobra6294]

I was absolutely transfixed, what a superb presentation, Many thanks❤

[@raymondtillotson6985]

See Saw Margery Daw. Sounds like Margery's life had its ups and downs...

[@davidcarney1533]

Ba dum tss

[@deniswilliams2212]

I hope you herd the groan when I read this

[@raymondtillotson6985]

@@deniswilliams2212 I anticipated a couple.

[@KevinWhite-zb5os]

Do you feel good? Do you feel good about that statement? You should, that s&%ts hilarious. 🙃

[@raymondtillotson6985]

@@KevinWhite-zb5os I feel good. I knew that I would.

[@suehardy5604]

amazing! love this old folklore stuff. particularly local. thank you!

[@saddaddrummer]

Superb rendition. These just keep getting better and better. You must be so proud of your channel and the way it's received and praised by us subscribers. Can't wait for the next one and have a good week.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you, as always, for making my day brighter with your comment 🖤 :)

[@martinwarner1178]

Thank you. Certainly giving food for thought. Peace and goodwill.

[@Wheels-Wheels-Wheels]

Fascinating, will have to see more of your videos. Have often thought there was something rather unsettling about some nursery rhymes.

[@VijaySuryaAditya]

I believe Margery Daw to have come from Margaret d'Or, or The Golden Goddess, a most apt name for a Corn Fertility Goddess! Possibly She was even the very origin of Corn Dollies!

[@hillerymcdonald2303]

Gosh your work is just so consistently fascinating and wonderful!!! Thank you :)

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you for your kind words! It means a lot! :) 🖤

[@johnscanlon8467]

Moistening and storing the corn dolly for reburial with the seed seems like a good way to propagate the microbiome of the last crop. She seems a worthy goddess, whether historical or invented.

[@chezchesterman5920]

Very interesting.... Brings back my childhood.. even as a child I thought thy were dark...

[@lyamainu]

I’m fascinated by the idea of this starting as a harvest fertility rhyme, but shifting in meaning and purpose as it travels and people make assumptions about word meanings. It feels so organic, and really cool to think a single rhyme can retain so many impressions of different points and circumstances in history.

[@DrMontague]

Many a times I rocked a child on my knee's and swayed them back and forwards to this rhyme, we just took for granted , thanks for your time and effort for looking into its origin

[@The-Resurrectionists]

You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it, thank you! 🖤

[@AHoundOnAHonda]

On your knee's what?

[@andrewgrillet5835]

So, no firm conclusion - but definitely one of your most interesting, and also one of the best! Also interesting that people outside the UK have little knowledge of see-saws. A penny a day would be meager in the 19th century, but in the 17th would probably have been a reasonable wage. This suggests that the phrase is not as old as the original rhyme.

[@MikeS29]

What a fascinating set of possibilities! Great video, as always.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

I'm so glad you found it enjoyable! Thanks for being here 🖤 :)

[@shelley9087]

Found your channel today. Fascinating. Thank you❤

[@RobCarmina]

Thankyou - you have such a beautiful, intelligent, mesmerising voice - which makes me think of the actual music for the rhyme as we know it today. Unlike a normal ballad quatrain, it doesn't resolve - the last line feeds into the first, so the song is never-ending. Perhaps this complements the seemingly never-ending, arduous task of the sawyers as they produced (for example) yet another endless plank for the shipping industry. It reminds me of that American folk song 'Jump down, turn around, pick a bale of cotton' - which has the same kind of endless feel (even though it does musically resolve, it feels as if it wants to repeat). All the elements of your admirably-researched presentation have potential truth, and relevance - but I feel that the song perhaps could have ended up as a work-song (?). Also, as I've commented before on your pieces, I think we shouldn't ignore the power of verbal association - the need for and the insistence upon a rhyme - so 'saw' could simply generate 'daw' almost as a kind of 'nonsense' musical rhyme. However, the evidence that you present earlier on (I think) makes that unlikely in this case.

[@StixDarKlor]

KZbin algorithm is fascinating, this appeared on my timeline and it was a really interesting watch thank you: I’m Cornish and am currently studying Cornish literature for my degree, the more I dive in to Cornish history the more bizarre and interesting it gets……another rabbit hole to traverse 😂🤣

[@graemebrumfitt6668]

Hey Wonderful Darkling 🖤, Being a hobbyist woodworker I like the sawyers tale best but the corn dollies is a good twist! Stay safe n well. TFS, GB :)

[@The-Resurrectionists]

It means a lot to me that you enjoyed it! 🖤

[@Jean-yn6ef]

Wow, how complicated! Very good stuff.

[@tudormiller887]

Growing up here in the UK, it was a very familiar nursery rhyme sung locally. Great video. I'd love to know the origins of the nursery rhyme "Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary" ❤

[@OwlingDogDesign]

Wow, what a wealth of information are you! Thank you so much!

[@The-Resurrectionists]

You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤

[@jessecaple170]

As usual, an incredible wealth of information garnered from an obviously huge amount of research and delivered in so sweet a vocal style🥰 Thank you so much for such the fascinating content🤩

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you so much! I'm so happy you enjoyed it! :) 🖤

[@jpendowski7503]

I had heard the common version, the original one I had not heard. Thanks for your careful research and theories.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤

[@nicholaswalker2494]

Thank you dark one super video keep them coming 👍👍

[@christellehoareau5303]

Amazing take on a rhyme I sing to my children without really knowing what it means !

[@Vernagene72]

Thank you for another lovely video.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

You're very welcome! Thank you so much :) 🖤

[@troyallen8223]

I forgot to turn on notifications. I feel lucky that you came up in my feed as my history is turned off and thus my suggested channels are myopic in scope. Well... the narrow path has widened slightly 😎😁🥳👍🏼 Love your channel

[@alexbowman7582]

Some Cornish people and Welsh are genetically the only remaining Britons here in Roman times, the English are genetically German Dutch and Danish.

[@davidharris4062]

Spot on

[@azillliasmith2734]

And Scandinavian .....true what you said but "Welsh" are genetically present in Brittany also and all of the Britons in English weren't wiped out in one mass strike on one day .......there was always some crossover and remaining Genetic Britons ....so not strictly true about the " the only remaining Britons" in Cornwall and wales... some Genetic Britons got pushed up to Scotland and are still there complains to this day...... but yes Cornwall is unique and should be allowed to be a country....free Cornwall...❤

[@jimtoye2844]

Wales is derived from the proto germanic word Walhaz meaning foreigner. The Anglo-Saxons referred to the whole of Britain as Walhaz, the land of the foreigners. It's also the root of the surname Wallace.

[@raibeartthehairypict4696]

I am open minded to all of this, although I like the last one about the sawyers. I imagine it would be a good one for working with.

[@maddybertani8161]

Thank you! I find these videos fascinating. Have you considered doing one on 'Oranges and Lemons'? I'm wondering if it was taught to children to help them identify where they were if they got lost in London?? Also interested to know how the words are relevant to each area? Just an idea! Thanks for your great work! 💕🇬🇧

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you, I appreciate your kind words! :) I do plan on doing Oranges and Lemons in the future; it's an absolutely fascinating rhyme and historically had many more verses! 🖤

[@patriciahayes2664]

4:57 - That's a beautiful painting!

[@tedgoodfellow9103]

You have a good voice for this. Regards from Blighty :).

[@deewesthill1213]

Thank you for this wealth of fascinating information. Reading the verse long ago about a boy named Jacky getting a new boss and a lower pay rate, i was vaguely curious about who "Margery Daw" was, but not diligent to do research. Reference books on this subject were not available at the library.

[@hArtyTruffle]

I think its origin could well be the one furthest back in time and then would have been adapted to the later cultural predispositions.

[@wrecktech]

I used to work for a wonderful lady named Marge Daw. I had never heard this rhyme until now.

[@kquat7899]

Interesting and well-spoken delivery.

[@zzzsydneyhom1379]

Wonderful detective work as always my dear! Great Britain has such a cruel history, and how the Monarchy dodged revolution in the 18th century is quite miraculous! Or perhaps preservation of Monarchy was the ultimate goal of the policy of transportation of the wretched and poor to Australia? Perhaps there is a rhyme that gives us a clue???

[@martinwarner1178]

Hmmm. Getting shut of the trouble makers! Like that. Peace and goodwill.

[@chrisdstard5644]

The descendents of those transported had the last laugh, most of those who stayed are now wishing they were down under!

[@martinwarner1178]

Too true. Full of infiltrators.@@chrisdstard5644

[@Robert-cr8bq]

Now that was interesting. I feel that Marjorie Daws was a 3 aspect goddess (maid, mother, and crone) and could refer to the moon goddess in her 3 phases. I like the corn dolly piece, and to me that sense. Thank you.

[@GordonDonaldson-v1c]

Robert, I wonder if you have heard of an historical novel by Naomi Mitchison called The Corn King and the Spring Queen? The author knew all about Frazer's Golden Bough and Robert Graves' The White Goddess. It is set in the 3rd century BC and is full of sex and violence. How it got printed while Lady Chatterley suffered her trials, I'll never know!

[@Robert-cr8bq]

@user-vj7el2wg9b No, I had not heard of that, but I will take a look. I have read Robert Graves 'The White Goddess and have heard of 'The Golden Bough'. Thank you

[@mavka.chorna]

I think she's just a Celtic version of Kora (Persephone), a fertility goddess with ties to Death, hence the Reaper. Celts and Greeks are Indo-European, thus have a lot in common within languages and their mythologies.

[@johna5635]

I was referred to as "Johnny" for the first few years of my life so I heard this rhyme A LOT!

[@morriganwitch]

Shared to a friend in Cornwall xxx

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you so much! :) 🖤

[@Kikatebnpagan]

Fascinating 😊 Thanking you 😊

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤

[@lisathomas634]

Delve into Peter Piper . Also great job presenting these old nursery rhymes , thank you

[@AllisonMoon-SheWandersFeral]

Creating a dolly of seeds 🌾 would have made a brilliant storage package for the next planting season

[@marytataryn5144]

This is fascinating. In Winnipeg, at the "Mug Pub" pavilion at Folklorama, the wheat is woven like this and given away to patrons. I had never associated the British with vast endless fields of wheat, and I thought it curious. I felt a great affinity with the wheat-art. In Ukraine, before mechanization, the wheat also was brought into the home for winter as an old man, or "didukh" grandfather.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Thank you for sharing, that is fascinating! :) 🖤

[@michaelhager2846]

Great story teller 😊thank you 😊

[@ajbubbles67]

Another great video. Well done.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

I'm so glad you found it enjoyable! Thanks for being here 🖤

[@silva7493]

How fascinating!! Here in California, I never before heard this one.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

non-english ignorant ... :D

[@Snickelfritz_]

My dad named me Marjorie (over Mom's objections. She wanted me to be Margaret). I had that sung to me so many times when I was little. Two of my aunts nicknamed me Marjoriedoll, since in our southern accents the word daw and doll are quite similar. Never knew it had dark origins. Love this.

[@Maliceah]

Thankfully I'd never heard of this song. Glad I never sang it. I was just curious as to what It was. Thanks!

[@frankmartinez4856]

This is a great story 💕Thanks 😬

[@susiefairfield7218]

This Darkling is so ready.... Thank You 🖤🖤

[@The-Resurrectionists]

You're welcome! And thanks for being here 🖤 :)

[@AdelaideBeemanWhite]

See-saw, sacradown, which is the way to London Town.

[@altair8598]

Intriguing. I thought possibly 'see- saw' may simply refer in present then past tense to 'seeing' Margery Daw...but the sawyer connection is good onomatopoeia.

[@stuartgraca]

When I was young in the early 1950’s , my great aunt , who was in her 90’s , used to recite lots of rhymes and tales to my brothers and I . If we could remember three of these tge following week, she would give us a threepenny bit . One song was about tge Blue Boys marching along. Do you know this one and was it about the children of a school or poor house who dressed in a blue uniform or children sent to battle. Little Tommy ticker tack was part if it , I think, he could play a ticker tack on an old drum . It had an element of counting with a sort of chorus in it.

[@serinachilders74]

Thank you I had never heard of this one.

[@pariahthistledowne3934]

The Dolly Dunking Rite is beyond cute! I will be making a Corn Dolly this Harvest.

[@martinriley106]

Food for thought? Brilliant!

[@hicsumfabulalepus]

Fascinating! Such history behind what we see as nursery rhymes. P.s. Penzance is pronounced 'pen - zsans. We pronounce the z. As as in buzz.😉

[@The-Resurrectionists]

oh I do apologise! It's always tricky with names/regional dialects. Thank you for watching, I hope you enjoyed it :) 🖤

[@GrandOldMovies]

Thanks so much for this informative video. The idea that the rhyme may have its origins in the widespread poverty and hardships affecting so many in its era is truly sad. Seeing that the rhyme also seems closely associated with Celtic countries (ie, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall), is Margery Daw also linked to Celtic goddesses and religions?

[@The-Resurrectionists]

There's a possibility that Margery Daw could have been associated with Celtic beliefs. Interestingly, a significant number of Irish people travelled to Cornwall to convert its inhabitants to Christianity, leading to the large number of saints in the region. It's challenging to determine which Margery Daw was, saint or deity, or if Celtic ideas merged with local folklore surrounding witches and mysticism, which abound in the area. Thank you for watching and commenting! Your engagement is truly appreciated!

[@margueritehuggett440]

Also the illustration of the saw-pit where a large tree-trunk was laid across the pit and a man above pulled up the top-half of the two handed saw, and the man below pushed up the saw from inside the pit: gave English the phrases 'the top dog' and the 'under dog'.

[@The-Resurrectionists]

Yes it did! The device used to keep the wood in place was called a 'dog' :)

[@paulbellingham3948]

What an interesting little story, thanks