Seed Haul! Trying Some New Varieties! 🙌🌱☀️ // Garden Answer

[@TheFarmOnSleepyHollow]

Laura and Aaron, I just wanted to say thank you for consistently posting informative, uplifting videos which I enjoy with my tea before work. I used to watch the news which left me feeling anxious. Now I've been watching Garden Answer for a few years and I feel its really made a difference in my life. Kudos to the two of you! Please give my best to your mom - she is in my thoughts and prayers.

[@diannehiggs]

Dana, I couldn't agree more! In this day and age with so much unhappiness and uncertainty in the world Laura and Arron are such a blessing. My go to place when I'm feeling despair at the state of things!

[@amysgardenstead2879]

Me too! I used to watch the news but switched to Garden Answer and am so much happier for it.

[@lynnelovett8999]

I totally agree. You take care. God's speed.

[@VirginiaMathews94]

Yep, I agree!💕

[@carmenmarcinkiewicz7149]

@Dana Davis You put into words my thoughts and feelings!!!! God bless Laura, Aaron, the kids and "Mom"..........AND the ENTIRE Garden Answer FAMILY!!

[@laurieh9388]

You'll love the euphorbia! Didn't know you could use as a cut flower. Great self-seeder too! Good luck to your mom and surgery!

[@cameronthepianoguy6045]

Hi Laura, this may be in the comments somewhere but just in case…. The “Jewels of Opar” (Talinum….) are beautiful. I bought seeds from Floret a few years ago and they have self-seeded every year. I even cut off the seed heads but the seeds just go everywhere!! It doesn’t bother me so I just leave most of them. They’re easily pulled once they pop up in the Spring. I saved seeds not realizing I’d never need to buy the seeds again… I try to incorporate their chartreuse color anywhere I can.. it’s just so beautiful and versatile. If you plant these somewhere they can go wild, they could be a fun filler or ground-cover for you. I love that they’re so versatile and can help to protect the soil until I decide what to do with a certain area. I have several growing well in my gravel patio and walkways too. BTW, I’m in Asheville, NC, Zone 7b… 🌸

[@richardproebstel6201]

So sorry about your Mama breaking her ankle/leg. I just got finished with my second surgery yesterday on my left foot/ankle which was crushed when I fell off the roof cleaning off the moss onto a concrete patio. I pray for her quick, perfect healing! Your videos are such an inspiration to watch in the morning! My wife Amy and I just love watching you first thing! If Aaron is the only person who does your editing, please let him know how much we appreciate his expertise and amount of time it takes to do that in addition to working the farm!!! So thankful for you all!!! May God overwhelm you, your staff and family with blessings!

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@Richard Proebstel ~ 🙏🙌 Prayers for you, also! You are soooo very lucky that you didn't have more severe issues, falling from the roof onto concrete. Your Guardian Angel was definitely with you, that day. May your recovery go smoothly and complete!

[@richardproebstel6201]

@@kimberleyfrasquillo3684 Really appreciate your prayers!! Yes, it could have been so much worse... After 2nd surgery I have an erector set on the outside of my leg holding the bones in place for some healing prior to the final placement surgery which will have plates and screws etc. to hold it all together. Thank you so much! May God overwhelm you and your family with blessings!

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@@richardproebstel6201, great oogly moogly, Richard, that sounds absolutely horrendous. I hope and pray that after your surgeries and physical therapy are all done, that you will have relatively little to no pain. May you be able to resume your previous lifestyle (minus being up on your roof)! Thank you, also, for blessing wishes!!!😊🤗

[@carolberres5528]

This was such fun, my Grandma had the most beautiful cut flower garden. I am 68 years old and I can still picture her working in it. It is a cherished memory. She instilled the love of flower gardening for generations to come!

[@Paige5Hansen]

Love this seed haul!!! More in the future please!

[@diannehiggs]

So glad that you around to help your mom! She's lucky to have all her children close by and able to jump in when needed! From what I've seen of her on your videos you probably have to watch her like a hawk cos she won't be happy sitting still for any length of time😉. Wishing her well for the surgery and a very speedy recovery!!!

[@gardenrevived1031]

Oh gosh I hope everything goes well for mom! I have been recovering steadily. Praying she enjoys her down time, easier said than done, and is up and going in no time.

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@A Garden Revived ~ I sent up a prayer for you, for your continued and complete recovery, from what you are currently experiencing!🙏🙌

[@peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920]

Good morning, Laura and Susan, from Windermere Florida zone 9b USA 🇺🇸 praying 🙏 for your total recovery 🙏 As a retired florist and lifetime gardener I love listening to your appreciation of both blooms in the Garden and their ability to perform in an arrangement. Happy Gardening Everyone 👩‍🌾👍

[@vailjeavons6338]

Hope Your Mom is healing without complications. It is so good to hear she has such a wonderful family unit to help her through this time.💕

[@wonderlymarshall6822]

Already picking my seeds out for spring 2023 😊

[@athenagibaszek6319]

To clean the house or watch Garden Answer 🤪 yup you guessed it grab my coffee reheat it and sit to watch Laura!

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@Athena Gibaszek ~ we MUST have our priorities in proper order.😉😂🤣

[@donnasmalley3713]

So sorry your mom had a break! I broke both bones in my forearm April 30 and was just released for normal activities

[@kbechtel33]

Beautiful pillows to your left.

[@bethtefke9949]

Good morning Laura. Your mom's porch looks so cozy. I love that bee 🐝 pillow. To my family and friends children I'm "Aunt B" so I get a lot of bee items and love them all. Anyway... thanks for sharing all of this information. Prayers for your mom for a full recovery. Hopefully she's found a good book to read while she waits. 🌻🌞☕️🐝🐈‍⬛

[@Wolfdogrules]

Glad your mum is on the mend cant wait to see your spreadsheet in a video as I am currently trying to make one and I am so lost of what to put in it all I have is name of the seeds and the time of year to plant lol

[@sherylemoore8626]

There you go, inspiring my garden dreams! Talking of seeds during these dog days of summer here in Virginia is such a respite from the heat and humidity. Sending healing for your Mom. It is a challenge to keep a busy woman contained! So happy for her that she is surrounded by family during her convalescence. Glad you are keeping your "eyes" on her! I laughed out loud. Adore your videos and am grateful that they are a part of my day.

[@BrittanyS143]

💜💚 you had me at sweet marshmellow ☺️. They had them white giant marigolds at my green house!!!

[@cynthiachronister4082]

You always inspire me thank you 🥰

[@mindyrutkowski3124]

Laura don’t you know we WATCH all your videos and love watching the progression of your cut flower garden?!?!? I can’t wait to see what you come with day after day!! I learn so much from you❤️🥰🌺🌼🌸Send love to your sweet mama❤️🙏❤️🙏

[@dcalivas3764]

Good Morning GA friends and family! Happy Tuesday! Sending an abundance of healing thoughts and prayers to your mom for a speedy recovery 🙏 ❤ 🙏❤🙏

[@deezahm9143]

☕️Good morning Laura and Susan and all GA friends. So enjoyable to hear your voice and see your smile, Laura. Such a beautiful array of new seeds. With all the good wishes and prayers headed your way, Susan, your recovery will be comfortable and complete, and I can’t wait to see you back in the antique stores with your lovely daughters. You have numerous blessings in your children and grandchildren! Thank you for all the inspiration and beauty, Laura. 🌸🌼🌻🌝🙏

[@katjandu]

Prayers for healing 🙏and your family. I'm the seed ordering person. We tried a pixie cabbage this year since it's only the two of us now that the kids have grown. I'm thrilled with the smaller size and sweetness. 🌷

[@digsindirt4490]

Thank you for sharing your growing experience. It’s nice when people post their results. I’ve been looking for a small cabbage. I’ll give this one a try. :)

[@cindystuder9090]

Prayers for your mom to have a successful surgery and quick recovery! ❤️

[@greenthumbelina7331]

Laura, your mom is a very special lady, and she's extremely blessed to know how much you all love her. I am praying that her surgery goes smoothly, and her recovery is a speedy one. I know the peaceful feeling of being home when you're in the place where you grew up! For those of us who had wonderful memories as a child growing up in a loving environment, there is a peacefulness felt there. It's a place where you don't have to do any 'adulting' if you don't want to, especially if your siblings are there at the same time! My heart goes out to the children who've never experienced that feeling of being safe and loved at home.

[@vickimurphy590]

Thank you for another relaxing, enjoyable and informative video. I hope you realize how appreciated you and Aaron are to all of us. Sending healing prayers to your beloved Mom.

[@kbechtel33]

Great informational video....as always.

[@andreasprickman6255]

I got my pen and paper! Your seed haul has me searching for seeds for next year! I’ve tried starting my whole garden from seeds this year but as I try, the more I learn what works and what doesn’t. I appreciate that you share your journey with garden success and struggles! I hope your mom has a speedy recovery!

[@sheilaasbjeld8979]

I started looking at seeds too , I’ve started a lot of seeds this year

[@margaretpervier8357]

I wish your mom had joined you and added her thoughts. I just love the interaction between you two. 😊❤️

[@gingersalmons2314]

Sorry to hear about you Mother. Prayers are with you .

[@elisawall7558]

Love my tallium!!

[@CloudsLoom]

Hope your Mom heals quickly and without any complications. It's so good to have family helping out in such a trying time. Poor lady, I thought, "Geez, she just now recovered from back surgery and now this." Hope the rest of 2022 is kinder to her. HUGS

[@karenturner7983]

Praying for your lovely Mother. ❤️

[@danakenoyer106]

Please give your Mom a hug and I hope her recovery progresses well. Thanks for a peek at flowers on the horizon for 23

[@lisah6159]

Please let your mom know we are praying for her!❤️

[@nikierohrer2001]

God bless you Laura, your mom and all your family!🙏🏻 Your mom is going to have speedy healing with all this love and prayer!!😊

[@jocelynedesrochers732]

Thanks for sharing. I’m sure I speak for all your viewers: you never need to speed up your videos. We enjoy it all and you inspire everyone of us! All our best wishes to your dear mom.

[@fromseedtobloommedia9340]

QIS (“Quality in Seed”) is a considerable improvement over standard seed varieties in uniformity, colour, flower size and stem quality.

[@annierampersad3982]

Hello Laura. Prayers for your mom and I must say that you're such a treasure to your family. I love your collection of seeds. Thanks for sharing and have a blessed day.

[@sharoncrowley1999]

Oh Dear… so sorry to hear your mom broke her leg . She’s is such a sweet person. All the best to her for a speedy recovery 🇨🇦❤️‍🩹

[@Talula72]

Prayers for healing for your mom. Your videos are part of why I ventured deeper into seed starting this year. I'm looking forward to trying some of your selections next Spring. Dianthus are at the top of my list. I planted just a few this year and would love many more

[@Sunshine-xt1vb]

Great video!! Two questions: who is the cat and where can I get a bunny pillow like the one you were sitting next to?

[@jenniszafranski6360]

Good morning from muggy Ohio! So, who else had the video playing then opened a new tab to Johnny's Seeds to shop as Laura talked?? :) Love taking a respite from the heat and humidity and think ahead to next year; especially thinking of the process of starting these seeds in the harsh winter months. It makes the heat and humidity seem not so bad! Lol. Thanks Laura for all the inspiration and giving us such thorough information on all these seeds!

[@denisefaust1290]

God bless your mom with her recovery! I know you guys are taking great care of her. Love the idea of adding a section of perineal flowers.

[@amynovitski2659]

Thank you Laura for your videos. I haven’t been able to garden for the last 2 seasons because of a difficult pregnancy and now a big life transition so I love to live vicariously through you and your videos. 🥰 I feel like I’m learning so much from watching them. Thank you!

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@Amy Novitski ~ Having a baby is definitely a "big life transition". I hope you are enjoying the care and nurturing of your baby! Sure makes the difficult pregnancy worth everything it took to get your precious child. HUGS🤱👩‍🍼

[@amynovitski2659]

@@kimberleyfrasquillo3684 absolutely totally completely worth it. He is such a blessing. 🥰

[@lynnelovett8999]

Mr. Aaron and Ms Laura thank you for your post. I always look forward to them and seeing the progress of your gardens. Keep your mother/family and your family in my prayers. I have great news in that I don't have to have surgery on my broken elbow. Thank you Lord. God's speed.

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@Lynne Lovett ~ That is wonderful news from your orthopedic surgeon from a day of so ago!!! Thanks/Praise to God!🙌 I know that news absolutely made your day!!!!

[@marysueluther659]

Everywhere you go a kitty is attracted to you. Hoping for a quick recovery for your mom. My mom & I love your channel, I always play it for my mom when she comes over.

[@cherylkemp548]

I am so happy your Mom will be getting her surgery soon - getting her on the way for a speedy recovery. The bee was entranced by that gorgeous pillow on your left and who could blame him! Gorgeous! Thanks so much for letting us know about Johnny Seeds. I just placed my first order from them. Pelletized seeds - Genius! I remember how you said something like "If you don't love it, take it out" in one of your videos. I am currently redoing most of my beds because I didnt love them and Johnny's will be helping me out. Thank you again for all the info and smiles!

[@teresaschaedel5392]

So very sorry to hear of your mother's injury. Will add her to my prayer list, take care. I am taking care of my 95 year old mother and she is never out of my sight.

[@jackiebirch1600]

Thank God you and your siblings are around to help your mom out. She raised good people. God bless you. And the surrounding is so calm and inviting. Thanks for all that you do.

[@zormier2002]

I would love to see a slide show of all the bouquets you put together in the year ❤️❤️❤️

[@joeyoosthuysen3518]

Laura, I'm sending your Mom best wishes and praying for speedy recovery. ♡

[@sherriianiro747]

I give you so much credit for being there for your mother. So many people are too busy or start thinking about assisted care for crying out loud. Good video too!

[@cbagenll9231]

Thank you Laura and Aaron from Halifax,Nova Scotia, 🇨🇦 Canada. Whenever I tried to grow anything outside plants 🪴 or inside plants they would die because I was never taught on how to garden.When I Found your garden site on u tube all that changed this year,I am so excited 😊 growing vegetables and flowers 💐. My most exciting plant is a baby lime tree here because we only have a short summer season.I watched your video on how to plant a lime tree,and you were cooking 🍳 with limes and said they taste better than store ones.Thank you for my new hobby in gardening. I am an Artist 🎨.looking forward on painting flowers 💐 .God Bless your Family and will be praying 🙏 for your Mom's healing recovery. I had broke my leg this past Christmas 🎄 and it did heal after 4 months

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@C Bagell ~ I am sorry to hear of your broken leg, last Christmas; that could not have been a fun holiday for you. I hope your recovery was full with no lingering issues or pain. HUGS

[@lakemarygardens]

I am sending love and pleasant thoughts to your Mom. Get well soon! Laura, I am impressed by your ability to organize and optimize how you use these seeds to bless others and find some treasured plants that will grow well for you.

[@nicolehuffman2995]

Sending prayers and well wishes to your mother for her full recovery. 🙏

[@judygraham2561]

Great video on flowers for fillers. You mentioned the flowers that you started from seed this season are flowering. Could you do a video of how these are doing? Love the idea of a perennial section in the cut flower garden and how you like to change things up and try new things in your garden. You teach us so much and we are all grateful for how you and Arron have impacted our lives. God bless.

[@tonigardella4165]

Your parents shady spot looks so inviting,thanks for the seed info and hope your mom is doing better !🌸🪴🌸

[@unicornzalltheway8064]

Paused the video to send your Mom my best wishes !

[@DebbyBoyce]

Best wishes to Mum for a speedy recovery, sending prayers and healing hugs 🥰

[@jeanbrewer576]

Good morning Laura and family. Praying for your mom and healing after her surgery . Those seeds sound beautiful, I'm sure they will look wonderful in the garden and flower arrangements. Thank you for sharing as always. Have a wonderful rest of the day ☺👋.

[@WastingThyme]

I was so excited when I sat down and opened my computer and saw you and a box at your mom's house. Had to go make a Tea and turn off the phone to sit down and enjoy. Hope she is on the mend. Hugs from Ontario Canada

[@deborahbell3518]

Tell your mom I pray she has a speedy recovery. Lots of beautiful flowers to be.

[@lindawoody8501]

I will pray for your wonderful mother's leg to heal up quickly and well. You are a good daughter and I know your Mother and Father appreciate your assistance. Glad you got new seeds to explore and try.

[@gloriaruiz2332]

Prayers and hugs for Mom!!!. God bless you all.🌷

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@Gloria Ruiz ~ God Bless you too.🙌

[@gloriaruiz2332]

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[@jeannetteburgess3516]

Hi Laura, I have been watching your videos for several years now and each time, I always learn something new ! I enjoyed this seed haul video especially since I am an avid seed starter myself. I use a 2 x 2 inch soil blocker which I know you have touched on before. Like you, I do vegetables and flowers. I have, in the past year, become interested in "cool season" annual and perennial flowers and starting those in the late summer to winter over in my zone 7b. I would love a video on using this method for particular flowers if those are possible in your zone. All my best to your sweet, sweet mother as she recuperates from her injury. (I have a three year old grandson who loves to garden with me. It is such a joy to pass along interest in this most enjoyable hobby. He has recently learned how to cut so now I am teaching him how to deadhead !😊)

[@cynthiaarmstronghopefulhom9672]

Praying for your mom to have a successful surgery and recovery.💞💐🙏

[@Sweetiepie032510]

Prayers for Mom ! Love her cozy porch ! Love watching you and your beautiful family !

[@carolfisch9750]

A neighbor gave me a lump of spotted bee balm seedlings, only 1/4 inches tall earlier this summer (Washington, DC). I have never dealt with any seedlings before and had none of the materials required( only a city roof deck container gardener). I gulped, thought of your seed starting process, then spent 2 hours separating all those intertwined babies. Planted each one in a plastic egg carton section and put under my one plant light. Nurtured them until a bit larger, then potted them into 3 inch pots. Now transplanted into large pots on roof and growing strong. No blossoms yet. But it’s promising. I would NEVER have attempted this without having watched your calm, informative gardening example. Thank you for making me brave enough to try something out of my comfort zone.

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@Carol Fisch ~ Wishing you much success on your roof top container gardens!!! We have to embrace our surroundings and garden where you're planted!!! Love it!!!😊💚💚💚

[@trudimorris8206]

Oh my goodness! Your poor mom..im praying for a full recovery and healing of her leg n ankle in Jesus name! Amen! Great seed haul, Laura! Cant wait to see them in your garden!! Gods blessings family!! 🥰🙏💖

[@juliafiore120]

Good morning, Laura ☕️ Hope your mom is comfortable and pain free! Great seed haul indeed. Love Johnny’s seeds. Going to try my hand again next year. This year was meh 🫤 Winter sowing with jugs worked better for me. Have a Blessed Day 😊🐈

[@pamsweeney1171]

To Laura's Mom: the leg is not fun, but look at the outpouring of love for you! Be well soon so we can see you soon. :-)

[@ranchhomeliving]

Wishing your Mom, a successful surgery and speedy recovery. 😘

[@cathycorriher6313]

Thanks for your positive toned videos....you set the mood for a happy garden and family. I hope your mother's recovery after her surgery is a speedy and uncomplicated one....prayers for her and your family as she gets back on her feet. We will miss her in your videos.

[@jenniferseelen1899]

Praying for your mom. Thank you for sharing next years seeds.

[@leesaaugustine1444]

Good Morning! 🌞🌻How is your Mom doing? She is so lucky that family lives so close to help her! I am all for preparing & getting seeds for the 2023 season!! 😃🌱☀️🙌💚

[@htl4286]

Thank you again for a lovely start to my day😊 Also, tell your Mum I love her cushions! (Just ordered seeds while watching this😁)

[@amydeeds6248]

I was really surprised when my Sahara rudbeckia returned in my zone 6 garden this year 🙌🏻. So great of your family keeping your mom company while she recovers. 😊

[@justanonymous5681]

Mucho well wishes & prayers for a speedy recovery for your sweet mom!! 😍🙏🏻

[@Yrutnec1]

*** Prayers and LoVE for MOMA!!! *** I so enjoy the seed inventory videos! I did go to Johnny Seeds for the Champion PINK II Pelleted (F1) Campanula Seed - 100 for $9.25 --- my question is: how many should I plant in each cell and should I fertilize with the fertilizer I see you use in the cut flower garden ?

[@orlandoblake5012]

Your mom's patio looks like such a lovely and cool place to relax. Our best to mom. Hope she gets well quickly

[@donnaokoniewski3761]

Speedy recovery wishes for Mom. An informative and interesting video. Thank you. xo

[@jasminelouisefarrall]

Beautiful seeds Laura 💕 and give our love to your Mum 💕

[@bettypisiakowski2148]

Praying for your mom's healing.. love your videos.. so inspiring 💝

[@maryquinn1706]

It was so nice to see you spending time with your mom. I hope she is feeling better.

[@judyingram4846]

So exciting, to see how all the seeds do. Thank you Laura and Aaron for all yall do, always so interesting and refreshing ❤️💙

[@lindawilliams5478]

Hope for your mom to have fast healing. The snow on the mountain, my gran grew when I was young. She passed away in 1979, haven’t seen it since.

[@mandyhassell]

Awww I broke both bones in the bottom of my leg last week , I really can sympathise with your mom, wishing her a speedy recovery ❤️‍🩹 xxxxxxx

[@gemstonegalaxy9446]

Im wishing u a speedy recovery as well.sorry 2 hear about your leg also.

[@marmaladesunrise]

Gosh, I hope you're OK. That's horrible!

[@kimberleyfrasquillo3684]

@Mandy Boden ~ I sent up a prayer for your full and speedy recovery of your broken leg bones. You can most certainly relate to what Laura's Mother is going through. Did your breaks require surgery?

[@mandyhassell]

@@kimberleyfrasquillo3684 yes unfortunately, had to have it pinned 😞 thank you 🙏 xxx

[@mandyhassell]

@@gemstonegalaxy9446 thank you 🙏 xxx

[@melissam6320]

I hope there is an overcast day (or dawn/sunset time?) soon so we can see the flowers you mentioned in this video that are so pretty right now in your garden. 💐🤗🙂

[@julienelson7082]

I'm sooooo very excited to be working on a little care pkg for sweet Susan (and one for Laura) for her recovery time. And just now I got this great idea for a video for you guys to do! Since we can't get a 'Laura and her mom antiquing' video very soon...... How about Laura at her mom's house, fixing a lovely cocktail, sitting down with her mom and asking her questions so we can get to know her better???!!!?!?!?!??🤔 🤔 😃😃😃😃😃😃👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 That would be so sweet and meaningful. If not no biggie.... I will continue to go back and watch all of the antiquing excursions. You two are so sweet and fun. I love to watch those. ♥ 🤗 ♥ 🤗 ♥ 🤗 P. S I like your sister too when she has been in the shopping excursions :)

[@barbaracarlson1331]

Your parents porch is just lovely!!! Prayers for successful surgery and rapid healing! Blessings.

[@carolthompson8159]

Well, you had me at a sweet marshmallow smell! The Summer Pastel Yarrow will be beautiful. Have a great day and thank you for always providing so much information on all the amazing plants, trees & flowers. You inspire me every day.

[@salmarahman1263]

Little CS having a party in the corner there for a sec, much love xx

[@camicri4263]

Lots of pretty flowers! Give your mom a hug from me! Praying that she heals fast and complet🤗🤗💗❤💜🤗🤗

[@SpecialgiftsLA]

Dear Laura. Iv been watching you for 3 years i think. When your sweet mom is back after healing.(recover fully and speedly)🙏.I would really love to know about the way she raised you..I know its not your channel's theme. Ohh better yet..maybe while she's having to sit alot she could write about it ..Lol..😇😊It's heart warming also that you are involved in your community .sending much love to you all.

[@NinjaOrchids]

Loooove your new stash 😍 most of all, a Marigold that smells of sweet marshmallows? Wow! Nice!! I am not a fan of marigold fragrance but I have only ever experienced the most common ones that you mentioned! Ooohh, yes, this new variety is a winner 👍🏼

[@debjohnson5976]

Glad your Mom had you around to help! Just wanted you to know that I have ordered my very first seeds- ever!!

[@eringamma4459]

Wishing mom a speedy recovery. ❤

[@theresarasche3173]

Oh NO... I'm so sorry to hear about your mom 😢 I hope she feels better soon 🙏

[@traceyely7728]

Thank you Laura and Aaron for your videos. They are the highlight of my day. I hope and pray for healing for your mom and praying for the surgery to go well. Also, when will you be planting around the Hartley?