Seedlings to Start in June for Fall Planting

[@amyschultz8058]

Holy cow!! You are amazing!! I planned a fall garden, but time has escaped me. Thank you for this reminder.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

You are so welcome!

[@DD-ws9kt]

“…WHICH IS NOW…” needed this reminder, thank you!!!

[@TJtheHAWK]

Here in New hampshire I can't set out fall brassicas later than the first week of August and I usually try to get them in at the end of July. I may have 8-10 weeks til my first frost at that time but they need a little extra time when you consider the dwindling sunlight hours.

[@brucemalakwa]

I plant broccoli from seed in my garden outside this time of year for a fall crop. I don't bother starting them indoors, just look for heat tolerant strains. I can move them if required to fill an area after the bush beans are finished.

[@tammyinwv1]

I sussession plant my bush beans, plant few rows, 2 weeks later a few more. When i pull the plants of my first rows, i plant some more

[@teresamcbride8277]

My gardens were just destroyed by a hail storm so having a good Fall garden is so important. Thanks for the video.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Sorry to hear that, depending on where you live you still have some time for a summer garden. Beans, summer squash, sweetcorn, all have time to grow.

[@SpineBuster]

In ny I grow broccoli and Brussels sprouts all summer long and I sow them directly into the ground.

[@littlecountrykitchen]

I have 1 lone cabbage plant inside still, the rest died. I will restart more now. Yay ❤

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

I have kale already started and coming along well. I will be doing broccoli, and the others this week.

[@npast1]

Can you make a video on how to plant Tstatsoi for the Fall harvest? I learned about Tsatsoi from your videos, and planted it early this year in March, and was a huge hit in our family. But I have zero experience with it -- how can I make it grow again in Fall? thank you! We just had a week-long temperatures of 95+ degrees in Albany, NY, so I suppose planting it early now won't work?

[@OneTakeTuber]

Starting tomorrow

[@Happy2Run4Me]

I’m still succession planting summer crops that do okay here (Texas z9a) but I start my fall brassicas mid August due to my frost date of Nov 30th. 😮 Plus I don’t have space in my temporary house (aka RV while we build our house) to start seeds indoors sadly. It’s so hard to have to wait! Fall and winter are the only time for me to grow any brassicas at all. Spring is too short here and they wouldn’t grow heads until fall anyways (if they survived the summer). It’s so interesting how different climates can be from just one state to another!

[@jlynnc9559]

My spring /summer garden was a bust this year. Too much rain and the. Triple digit heat. I am about to start a fall garden of tomatoes and beans. Will put outside around mid August. My cabbage and carrots get planted in Oct/Nov.

[@cynthiafisher9907]

Thanks for the reminder!

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

You bet!

[@joijaxx]

I was just thinking about this, thank you Rick!

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

You're welcome!

[@cbak1819]

Seeds starting

[@mikeswanson501]

I bought a new soil blocker just for this. Thanks for reminding me to focus on this and not just what’s growing in the garden now.

[@dawnhamilton197]

I was like, what??? Then I realized where you are. I’m north of Houston, TX and we are still a little further out. However, I’m getting my calendar out to make sure I hit the right dates.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Yeah, we have frost in late September sometimes so I have to get started early.

[@kimbarrickman1882]

if I tried to plant these now, they would die .... do not follow this advice if you live in zone 8 for sure. He needs to tell people IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO what zone he is in before he starts telling you what to do.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

@@kimbarrickman1882 I clearly stated in the video that your planting time is based on your first fall frost date. Garden Zone has nothing to do with it, it is all based on when your first frost arrives in the fall. I talked to someone just yesterday that lives in Zone 8 Oregon, who has the same first frost date as I have in Zone 6b. If they waited based on Zone they would be too late. Garden zones really aren't very important when it comes to planting times. It's all down to when you have frost and cooler weather.

[@kansasterri5977]

I have seedlings on my back deck. They are on standby: as each potato plant is harvested a seedling will take its place. Mind, none of them are brassicas: I have 3-4 melons, a winter squash, and more. I find that I would rather eat a melon than a cabbage.

[@aawilson5387]

This is perfect👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻Thank you!!

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

You're so welcome!

[@highwayroadrunner206]

Great video! When you put your potato's in a container with 4" of soil under them do you water the soil before adding soil on top of the potato's? I'm just starting out trying to grow potato's. I subscribed to your channel. Greetings from Greenville, NC. The heat here is brutal now, triple digits late morning to late afternoon! Thanks again.

[@mwwhatup]

What's the time schedule for the interior lights? Copy the outdoor sunlight?

[@raydel5732]

Rob you mention starting the seeds under lights. Why not in containers. In the outdoors

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

All of these crops are cool season crops. They are not going to like the heat of the outdoors during the middle of the summer and will do better indoors where hopefully it's a bit cooler.

[@stacysalois6659]

Are lights a must? We don't have AC so it can be pretty hot in this house ..at least this week in MI lol

[@hoosierpioneer]

​@@stacysalois6659Me too. It's hotter where my lights are than outside. Maybe shade cloth on south and west sides?

[@stacysalois6659]

@hoosierpioneer that's an idea! I'm gonna give it a shot, this will be my 1st try at these types of crops

[@hoosierpioneer]

@@stacysalois6659 my first fall garden too. Best of luck to you!

[@davidmikolajczak9361]

Spinach too?

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

No way too early for spinach. You'll plant spinach about 8 weeks before your first frost.

[@francesherman9083]

Could you tell what planting zone you're in?Because I believe in Southern California, June would be a little too soon for me to start my seedlings.My first frost is november 9th

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

I'm in Zone 6b. But remember it's not your garden zone that's important, it's that first frost date. So yes for you it would be later in the year.

[@helenmcclellan452]

I started cabbage, broccoli, and more determinate paste tomatoes indoors a few weeks ago.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Perfect!

[@cornfloats7004]

Where is this? I'm in the Phoenix Metro Valley and its 115 degrees on this June 21st. Does this advice apply here???

[@carolscott9330]

ok so I am in central Texas. zone 8. my frost date is December 18th. so early Oct. to start them. or can I start them in earlier. as we have a longer Fall?

[@kaylynnr8003]

How about starting seedlings outdoors in containers? No grow lights or space inside.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

You can certainly give it a try. But these are all cool season crops that are not going to thrive in the outdoor heat of summer. You don't need grow lights. You can pick up some simple LED shop lights for $30 that will work well.

[@cynthiafisher9907]

Try the shade, maybe?

[@connecticutwormsgardens]

​@@cynthiafisher9907that won't work. It's not the sun, it's the temp. 90° in the shade is still 90°

[@cynthiafisher9907]

@@connecticutwormsgardens Yes, that’s true, it would need to be cooler than that in the shade, I guess.

[@carolinestone4527]

I started mine about a week or two ago. Maybe a bit too early? I am in the same state as you.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Maybe a little early, but you will be okay. You might need to pot them up towards the end of the season. I'm starting mine this weekend or sooner if I find the time.

[@bobbarker1798]

It's June 19th where I live. Maybe this video is from last year. The first day of summer is tommorrow. I'm not ready for fall.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Nope this is a new video, I filmed in on the 18th and published the 19th. And I know, it seems early, but for many of us if we want fall brassicas we need to get the going.

[@courtneyevers4035]

Anyone try starting starting these things around this time in a seedling bed ( nursery bed) outdoors?

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

The issue with this is that all of these crops are cool season and are not going to do well in the summer heat. That's why I recommend indoors where hopefully it is a little cooler.

[@courtneyevers4035]

@@StoneyAcresGardening that’s what I’ll do then! I’ve never tried outside, and around no here does it. But thought I’d ask the professional 😃

[@PlantObsessed]

Have you harvested your spring cabbage yet? Here in central Illinois we fo from winter to summer then back to winter lately. I struggle to time the fall plant out due to August September heat here. Ideas? Thanks 👍🏼😁

[@gh_007]

You got a winter in central IL? We had basically no winter in Northern IL. We did have a long spring, then jumped right into mid-summer last week. Nasturtium seedlings burned to a crisp this week. Dunno what's going on.

[@anonanon1982]

I’m in Salt Lake City, UT not far from this guy, he’s in a higher elevation from me and about 45 minutes north. I have only pulled one of my spring cabbages so far.

[@PlantObsessed]

@@gh_007 not a winter like I remember as a kid with 20 food snow drifts. It has been 100f here for 2 weeks. Before that it was 60/40 and it was raining for 2 months. Peppers and tomatoes are loving it.

[@gh_007]

@@PlantObsessed I bet! the rabbits ate 4 eggplant plants so I planted 4 more in larger/tall planters and they flowered! We had 90f weather for a week and the tomatoes have begun flowering already and I am hoping we can get some ripened tomatoes before August this year! I just hope it's not another drought year like it was for the past 2 yrs.

[@BergenholtzChannel]

Why did they need to be started indoors? Is it because it is too hot for them to be planted directly?

[@anonanon1982]

Fall/winter crops need to have significant growth on them before planting outside. The dwindling sunlight makes them grow slower in fall/winter. It’s too hot for them to be started from seed outside right now and direct sowing in the fall doesn’t give them enough time to grow up before the days are too short.

[@krifenburg]

Why can't we start them outdoors in seed trays though? I'm genuinly curious

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

You certainly can, but everything on the list are cool season crops. They are going to struggle outside in the heat and will thrive better indoors where it is cooler.

[@krifenburg]

@@StoneyAcresGardening ahhhh makes perfect sense now. So just use grow lights but no heat mats?

[@anonanon1982]

@@krifenburg I don’t use heat mats on cool season crops. They hate it.

[@DanlowMusic]

Hey Rick, you said June 21st in the video for the workshop but the link days July 21st. Which is it?

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Thanks for pointing that out! My mistake on the link. The date is this FRIDAY, June 21 at 2 pm. Sorry, I corrected the link, thanks for the polite correction.

[@DanlowMusic]

@@StoneyAcresGardening absolutely I figured one was a typo. Love your content. Fall gardening is something I really am trying to get going in. I'm 100% interested

[@DanlowMusic]

All signed up! See you then!

[@emkn1479]

I was just thinking about this too! We don’t have anything available in fall…nurseries basically close their doors. It’s too hot out there…I’m gonna stay inside and plant (yet more) seeds 😅 I’m still figuring stuff out and failing left and right but it’s just a few seeds, right? 🤷‍♀️ Would this apply to ornamental varieties also, I assume?

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Yes it would.

[@connecticutwormsgardens]

@ourstonyacres I (personally) add a week to 10 days to the front end of your suggested guidelines. since I want to 8 weeks of indoor growth before setting plants out, starting seeds 8 weeks before the 1st frost date is not sufficient. The 8 week growth clock starts *after* germination, not when seeds are planted. It can rake 7-10 days for germination.

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Actually I took germination time into account with these times. The 8 week old transplants are 8 weeks from planting.

[@inthehouse9062]

Useful information. But your hair is getting too long

[@StoneyAcresGardening]

Yeah I know. And it is so hard to manage at this length. So much brushing and styling to get it to look right. Some times I think I should just cut it all off!

[@inthehouse9062]

@@StoneyAcresGardening Ha