Seeing the C6 like this broke my heart!

[@Boating_David]

From someone who's had four C2's and a C4 Coupe a C6 is a dream. Just it's added Frenchness

[@cromulence]

I really hope this thing is back to full health at some point. It really is *such* a beautiful car. It's truly timeless.

[@YeCannyDaeThat]

Agree

[@cristianosantos9588]

Nice seeing the C6 back! Batteries are fundamental for new cars to run perfectly, even the smoothness in automatic gearboxes can be affected! Probably all the codes were caused by the battery, however, if those turbo pressure and maf codes persist, you might have a boost leak. I agree with you, diagbox is definitely the best tool for this job!

[@PenryMMJ]

The car want's to live. It knew it's battery was dying so it opened the window to tell you. And it knew it was parked next to the unit, so it opened the window nearest the wall to protect itself from rain. Your stuck with that car Kitch, it's not going to let you go.

[@murraygnz]

Do a BSI reset. It sorts out all sorts of problems, like door mirrors that refuse to motor in or out. Had to do it twice in 6 years of C5 X7 ownership. Even have the instructions on my phone, so I know how to do it, any old time.

[@shadowjkl]

Don't worry about the mic etc.. Content matters and it's solid

[@martinneumann7783]

What a nice evening for me: first on HubNut*, watching Ian changing indicators and side indicators** on Elly, the Citroën 2CV. Then changing to Up’n’Down watching Kitch doing some *HubNut stuff on a rather larger Citroën. Did you know that my C1 and your C6 have something in common? Yes, it’s the **side indicators! Now everything is said and done. See you next time »»» Martin 🚗💨🇫🇷♥️

[@Qwerty1235945]

I'd forgotten what an exquisite looking car that is Rich. Great to see her again.

[@mikecleasby709]

Gone are the days where you could jump start a diesel and it would run happily…..damned electronics!! 😢🙄

[@groeacht8525]

At least it did start, on newer PSA stuff replacing/disconnecting the battery causes an error in the electric handbrake, and if it can't see the handbrake is engaged it wont start, it just cranks and cranks

[@NZBRG1]

I love the sound of those V6 diesels

[@chrisoncars4879]

C6s are very picky about battery condition, it's amazing what a new battery will sort. I leave my C6 on a trickle charge in the garage when not in use, as I'm paranoid about the nuisances from a low battery. Good to see the C6 back on your channel!

[@woodant1981]

Glad to see her again. In the same sorry state as my C5 right now🥲like I said on Facebook, will need to do my affirmations "I don't need a cheap C6" over and over again. Saying that I'm in Ireland and it's impossible to own or find anything😂

[@Batesandrw]

Really like the C6. If you hold the lock button in the remote key fob, the windows will close automatically. A good feature if you forget to put them up.

[@DarrenKC53]

It Sounded like a Leyland National when you started it up 😂

[@jayslittleprojects1431]

Come on man you have to bring that lovely piece of because French back

[@johnsphoneshack]

One of my favourite cars just wish the tax wasn't so high

[@Tagora2664]

Nothing worse than seeing the car you love sat around, and it doesn't take long before they look rather dishevelled. One of mine has been off the road 8 years now........ 😭😭😭

[@MattBrownbill]

Just sounds like a typical Land Rover, nothing wrong there.

[@jonnybigpotato4263]

The C6 is such a great car. I loved mine but am so glad I let it go. I too remember it being dead after not being run for a while so flat battery and pain to get in and change it and even after I decided to sell it for a whole £4,500 the main hydraulic pump went and the fans went and the cost to fix was over 50% of its then value. It’s still going though, I see pictures of it around and the buyer got a decent deal on it with some noice new parts on it. Glad I owned one love to see them but would not have another. Must have been great to own when new with parts available if cost was not a consideration.

[@MrTopgearnerd]

P1351 is very common on all diesel Citroëns and peugeots. usually means the glow plugs are buggered

[@Alec-i5p]

First time i saw one was when they used them at the races to carry cameras on top as the suspension was so good it gave a great picture to the picture on your tv 😂

[@bondbug73]

The C6 means a lot to you doesn't it Richard, and the C6 knows it. You'll can beat the foibles of this stunning car. I have that TopDon battery jumpstart too.

[@UPnDOWN]

It does. Have a lot of memories in it and it was one of those 'halo' cars for me. The JS2000 is brilliant!

[@kim007250]

VED duty probably tops out at 700+ per year, for a car that will be used infrequently, there has to be a fairer way.

[@Shane_Marsh]

£735 to tax they'll all end up sorn'd and deteriorating. Should be a pay-per-mile option for low use vehicles.

[@groeacht8525]

There is, either register it as a van, and it halfs, or get something that's £35 a year to tax and accept you'll be doing annual engine swaps and rust repairs

[@merikblackmore]

If you pay by mothly direct debit you can pay for the months when you use it. But yeah £700+ for cars after March 2006 is a con.

[@groeacht8525]

@@merikblackmore it would be nice if you could get a refund for months that you don't use it, cos as soon as it's SORN you can guarantee you'll need it

[@10mbc]

Sometimes I miss having a C5 in my life but then I remember my current car works great all the time, the ac is working great and there are not weird noises all the time.

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

Fingers crossed the battery has confused the C6. A beautifal car that I admire to own, but simply could not afford the tax.

[@peterriggall8409]

Yuasa batteries are really good I find. My Citroen mechanic had a C6, past tense, it became too much even for him. He now has an SM….i bet you wish you had an SM. 😉 Hope carpets are not wet. If so will need drying out pronto.

[@hadtopicausername]

Shi... Skit passed its MOT? Hurrah!

[@Shane_Marsh]

It's such a majestic car but it terrifies me 🫣

[@Matu007]

That's what you get for 750£ lol, if I didn't own one, Richard's videos would probably put me off buying one. But it is really not that bad. Mine has been in the family since new and we haven't had such nightmares with it nor has it cost me my kidney.

[@gregchambers943]

I've run an 09 one for over 3 years, they're nothing to be scared of! Apart from the hydropneumatic suspension most of the mechanical steering and suspension bits are shared with peugeot 407s. Only things I've had go wrong are 2 central locking actuators and electric power steering pump which was a doddle to fit. Mines a 2.2 manual.

[@andrewmalyon5699]

I absolutely adore this car, I feel your pain, the new " pay per mile " system to replace the current VED rates will help cars like this,and BMW E46's and other cars that are currently a ridiculous amount to tax.

[@lukemallory7832]

Always nice to see the C6!

[@James-ld2jc]

Fantastic car yet terrifying prospect to own

[@JorgeFernandez-uc9qb]

I am glad you were able to get it in the shop. When I bought my Honda Pilot, I went to the dealer and bought a valet key that has no chip or fob in it, so I could open the driver door which is the only one with has a regular key. If the battery dies, that is the only way to get inside. The battery is god on that SUV. You were lucky you left the bonnet open. Someone I knew had a similar issue of a dead battery, and I ended up crawling underneath the car and attaching the jumper cable to the starter so he could use his fob to open the door. Not fun! I am looki g forward to seeing your diag video on this gorgeous car. Cheers!

[@yangnaifen]

Love this car too, please update soon!!

[@Mickhanic-garage]

I bought a Topscan, 45 quid direct.. Codes calibrates, diagnoses, live data and more its brilliant!!

[@johnlladron735]

A beautiful car, hope it gets well soon.

[@johnmcdonnell81]

95% it was due to the battery

[@veryrancid3128]

That is a lovely car tho! I love the look of it!

[@asafschneider3395]

I had a Peugeot 307, and when the battery died on me, the driver's side door could be opened with the key, mechanically. So I'm guessing, being a PSA car and a right hand car, that it's the same with the C6 over there, only now it is the passenger's door because they didn't bother to change such a small detail. It's also an opportunity to say how much I enjoy your channel - so thank you

[@davidmascall1575]

Glad to see you battle your way through that one with technology and that all-important diagnostic device on top of your shoulders. As an old git this made me think off at a random tangent of a couple of films, - 2001 and in particular the loving parody of some aspects of it called "Dark Star". If the C6 could speak it would engage you in a depressed discussion of French philosophy. Please ensure the ECU's never in charge of a thermonuclear weapon. Alternatively, imagine a French take on Marvin the Paranoid Android "An ECU the size of a planet and he leaves me outside a garage en Angleterre for my battery's charge to dissipate...."pah!.

[@Zeem4]

My Renault Grand Scénic once decided to open one of its rear windows overnight, must be a French thing. There's also a fun game that can be played by opening all the windows, getting out, deadlocking it off the remote then seeing which windows auto-close. It'll usually be either be one or two (always opposite corners), or rarely three. Only once has it ever closed all the windows.

[@jacksonsystemslimited]

Need to try this on my Espace lol

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Battery clip fuse box, I had about the same reaction to that as you the first time I saw it.

[@jamesward5721]

I like the Renault Fluence these days - I was previously indifferent to them, one came in for a service, I worked on it, test drove it afterwards & warmed to them a lot. Nothing exotic, pretty straightforwards to work on - IMO an Avensis is a nightmare by comparison, heresy I know... roomy, comfy, tried & tested mechanicals - yeah, I like 'em now. I semi-like the C5/C6's - they can be feckety head melts tbh, there's always that whiff of coolant of them, the signature PSA pong of impending doom. Given the choice between relying on a C5/6 or a Fluence, I'd chuck my dice into the Fluence & live with the minor foibles of those. Dunno if you ever stuck one onto your dyno-of-dreams, but it would be interesting to see. How many horses are still in paddock of a 1.5dci that's had an unpampered existence?

[@jacksonsystemslimited]

As I've mentioned before I had that 2.7 TDV6 in an S Type Jag, get it remapped, mine was kicking out over 600ft ib of torque it was mental! However what killed the car was eventually rust and electrical issues galore! All manner of things would go wrong if the battery ever so slightly went awry. Components and Sensors that where fine, would then fail when the battery would go flat. For some reason that car would go through a battery a year. no kidding. Not sure why! But I had the weird steering wheel thing happen in that car aswell as you are seeing here. Eventually it would sort itself out. The last straw was driving back from Lincoln and the battery decided to throw an wobbler, drove about 70 miles with constant BING BONG - radio would not come on, no air con... BING BONG it drove me insane all the way home! OH.. mine had strange gearbox issues as well (ZF 6 speed) I think previous owners thinking it was a sealed box, but then you get service kits for it soooooo - had mine serviced to no avail it was too late. It would BANG into gear and hold onto gears longer than it should. Enough for me to say BYE BYE.

[@UPnDOWN]

I don't think getting it remapped is going to sort out my problems!

[@jacksonsystemslimited]

@@UPnDOWN Indeed, might be good when shes up and running properly though!

[@anakinskywalker4113]

Also just an FYI I would clear all the codes on your top don thing. Then drive the car for 10mins & do another scan.

[@colinhead284]

To the tune by Daddy Yankee " got to be Vasolina "

[@vangestelwijnen]

😄😀

[@10mbc]

Car taxes are pretty good in Romania as far as you don't want anything over 2.0. It's all engine size based, but over 2.0 it's considered a luxury car and you pay disproportionately high. For a 2.0, in my city, you would pay 46 euro yearly, for a 2.2 you would pay 199 euro and for a 3.0 you would pay 543 euro yearly. Everything over a 3.0 is usually unaffordable for the regular people. A 3.2 would be 1170 euro and a 5.0 would be 1803 euro yearly.

[@comcarclub]

Oh, dear. You may have mentioned this before, but that headliner isn't looking happy. I changed mine in my C5 Tourer, so I had a big boot opening to get the roof-board thing out. I can only imagine the faff it is with a saloon

[@BrorAppelsin]

You can run Diagbox/Lexia on a virtual machine with a newer laptop too, makes it a bit less pain to do.

[@dwaynekelly2266]

If you think tax is bad, in your country you should look up how much the tax would be over in Ireland for the c6. You're looking at near 2 thounsed Our more for a year. Ireland is way worse in my opinion

[@woodant1981]

It's absolutely fucking ridicolous over here. Government taking the piss and pushing us into buying bland VW crap. Horrible country to be a motorist, but good country roads for blasting

[@groeacht8525]

I think that's part of the reason I used to get pulled by the garde, there just making sure I wasn't going about on English plates to dodge there obscene tax rates, it's not even like diesel is any cheaper

[@martinday2815]

Car tax is a rip off. Based on list price is utter bs.

[@zubeystinzen540]

Put a solar battery maintenance device on it, they've come down in price & they really do work 👍

[@UPnDOWN]

They do....if the 12v sockets stay live and the BSI doesn't D/C them after a while.

[@stephenprice7502]

@@UPnDOWN Easy enough to hook one up in the boot space via a fuse ;)

[@PaddyWV]

Is the window drop a safety measure? Or a quirky fault? (I did a quick browse and I see it happens to other cars too!) A bit of a worry security wise.

[@grumpytorque8905]

It’s alive!!!

[@wanderingorganist]

Oh, how I've missed the sound of Hydro suspension twizzling when you unlock the car.

[@johnmcmahon4364]

If possible keep it going

[@grayfool]

You would think that all these clever (?) electronics would be able to cope with a flat battery. It's not exactly an uncommon problem.

[@UPnDOWN]

Mmmm, I can understand the electronics having a duckfit, to be fair. They're all designed to work within a certain parameter, and if you alter that then you alter every law they're written to.

[@nekite1]

Holy sh*t, changing a battery has never looked so complicated. I could change the battery on my old Alfa 159 in about 2 minutes.

[@-DC-]

Try a Ford Kuga 🤣

[@GoldenCroc]

You havent seen much then, this was among the easier I have seen in modern days.. count yourself lucky.

[@UPnDOWN]

Try a modern BMW...

[@elgorka5103]

I'd like to say : because french or french connection, I cannot decide :)

[@ClassicCarDriver]

Amazing what a new battery will do. The C6 behaves better than a Ferrari with a low battery! 🤣 Much more resilient. Did I mention that I have an SM? 😆

[@MrTopgearnerd]

The C6 is one of those slighly tempremental complicated mid 00's cars that need to be driven or at atleast a smart trickle charger on if sitting for a long period. The germans are no better from the same time.

[@iangrice329]

Wow, and people say Fiat electric are bad, I have never known a car open it's windows when the battery goes, that's just so bizarre 😮

[@UPnDOWN]

It would have been when it was discharging. Likely to have send the body module into a meltdown.

[@timm.e.n.]

At this point you might as well name it Cecily

[@GryphLane]

If it's anything like my car, it might just need a bit of a drive once you've reconnected the battery, to reset the ECU. Either way it sounds like it's computer related in some way

[@lesklower7281]

I myself have never used anything on the posts on a car battery l have heard that Vaseline stops corrosion but l have not seen any in years

[@Kenjh71]

For cars that sit in longer periods, hook up a little trickle charger to keep the battery in top form.

[@tomwinch9107]

Do you have trade plates? As a completely unrelated question, if you need to test drive your C6 every now and then, would that keep it in better condition?

[@UPnDOWN]

Nah, they're a total PITA!

[@michaelwright2986]

I can really understand why you love that car (and while it's indoors, I hope you leave the windows open so the interior can really dry out); but it takes sophisticated European engineering to make changing a battery a major operation. So there you are, diagnosing an all-moving, all-flashing, self-controlling autonomous machine with automatic bof function, and I remember you getting a bit lost in a simple, nay primitive, Austin 7 (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHjTfKigZ7x-i8U). Give the C6 my best wishes--they don't make Get Well Soon cards for cars.

[@bluebirdfan100]

This is exactly why I downgraded to a basic base model car. Totally fed up with ridiculous endless and expensive error codes from crazy over complicated engineering. A hard lesson learned.

[@tboneisgaming]

I've always liked the look of the C6. If its anything like the XM I had I would guess it's temperamental but wins over your heart. Does it have the 2.7 v6 Lion Diesel fitted?

[@UPnDOWN]

It does, sadly.

[@tboneisgaming]

@@UPnDOWN that's an engine I'm very familiar with. I had a Jaguar XJ Sovereign with the same engine for 5 years. The main issue I had was leaking injectors. Otherwise it was fairly reliable. I have the 3.0 lion variant in an XF S now.

[@andgate2000]

Always wanted one of these....but common sense said no.

[@scotttait2197]

Mescaline on the terminals 1st? Always thiught it was last as a vapour barrier

[@UPnDOWN]

Someone got very upset about it in the comments already. Personally I've always done it and never once had an issue. Logic being that the clamp scrapes most of it off again as it goes on, leaving just enough of a film to fight corrosion, and giving it a nice coating underneath between the base of the terminal and the clamp. Then I just smear the remains at the top over the joint. I've always done it, never had a problem.

[@Sid3300]

I was half expecting you to open the door and see the interior had gotten mouldy. You still gonna sell it if the right buyer comes along?

[@UPnDOWN]

If the right buyer came along, definitely. I'd let it go slightly cheaper to the right person, just like the guy I got it from did to me. But try and find the right person...

[@TW-80]

As for VED. I own a 08 mk4 Mondeo 2.5 turbo. The car is in one of the highest tax brackets. £415 per year, however the GOV website says that my car is ULEZ compliant? I'm not sure how that works? If VED is based on emissions how is it ULEZ compliant? Your videos are great. Thank you

[@GoldenCroc]

Different types of emissions, surely. As well as it being tied to the year of manufacture for the vehicle.

[@UPnDOWN]

ULEZ is to reduce particulates, whereas VED is based on Co2 emissions (as I understand it). Hence diesels have lower tax, but are banned in ULEZ. Our S-Max has the same engine as your Mondeo, and is also ULEZ compliant. Madder still, so is Dumpit!

[@turboslag]

No, no, no,.no, just NO!!!! Do not put ANYTHING on the battery terminal posts before attaching the terminals!!!!! Just where did that bollox come from?! By doing that it just partially insulates the connections!!! Connect the terminals, THEN apply terminal grease with a brush, or aerosol type if you have it. Yes, there is a specific grease for battery terminals. Durite have a good product for this. The grease prevents moisture from combining with any acid solution that may find its way out of the area around the post, thus causing that powdery corrosion that forms. There is a terminal grease that changes colour to indicate any such problem, can't recall the brand. Excuse the rant but this bugs me to hell!!!

[@SteveDull]

Breather pipe needed reattaching too!

[@UPnDOWN]

Condescending much!?

[@UPnDOWN]

@SteveDull Breather pipe was reattached. I don't film every last second of a job ;-)

[@SteveDull]

@@UPnDOWN Apologies. Date of battery is normally stamped on top of negative terminal for future reference.

[@UPnDOWN]

@stevedull It is normally, yeah. On this one it isn't, hence I don't know how old it is. It's probably stamped somewhere and I just haven't looked hard enough (because it's not really important 😆)

[@nickhaag7803]

Time to face reality sadly. Break it for parts or pretty much give it away. On the other hand it's compelling content!

[@BEGGARWOOD1]

Gosh I would hate to see a car you don’t love 😂

[@UPnDOWN]

I know, right?

[@zaphodbeeblebrox6627]

Maybe the passenger windows( which would be drivers side in France are designed to drop down when the battery is about to go flat so you can actually get into the car rather than locking you out ( as you found out when you tried to unlock the car on the British drivers side)French cars are quirky that way, I've had a couple myself. Just a thought!

[@peterreeton6051]

does it work on suzuki motorcycles

[@UPnDOWN]

The TopScan? Or the jump pack?

[@gillscorner794]

C6 would be a perfect electric conversion as the landrover ford engine is sh*t anyway

[@UPnDOWN]

Agree, it would. It even looks 'right' as a Tesla Model S alternative.

[@gillscorner794]

@@UPnDOWN Colab with Damien McGuire?

[@tridaks]

I thought you'd decided to sell the C6???

[@UPnDOWN]

I had. Haven't really tried very hard, mind.

[@midnightchannelclub]

i am not second

[@cbmsysmobile]

Yuasa car batteries are sh*te. I've had quite a few come through my hands and they always give trouble. I replace them with Varta or Bosch.

[@mikecleasby709]

Ummmm……… “Because French”………🤔🤔

[@andyand100]

Avoid ads for car vertical hearing lots of complaints about data

[@UPnDOWN]

I had an approach from them the other day, funnily enough!

[@anakinskywalker4113]

That’s an unhappy C6. Why are French cars so complicated it just blows? my mind. This is perhaps one reason. Why you need to drive older cars at least 1-2 times per week. They shouldn’t be left sitting around. I run my own shop in Australia I have a few cars in my fleet not as many as you do though. However I make sure that I run all 4 of my cars that I own for at least 15mins every week.

[@UPnDOWN]

It's not French cars, it's anything of this era with this level of complexity.

[@anakinskywalker4113]

@@UPnDOWN very true however i find French cars just that little bit more annoying to work on. Even with almost 15 years experience in the business. There will be some cars that come in like the C6 that have not been designed with any sense of serviceability in mind. Also most cars from about 1995 onwards are not made to be left parked up for weeks on end. They need to be moved around, started up & run. Otherwise seals dry up & as happened to you batteries die. As soon as i notice any issues with starting or the battery starting get dodgy I replace it immediately. I don’t wait for things. I’m a big believer in preventative maintenance that means I replace or repair things before they are due. I would rather spend 1-2 days throwing the kitchen sink at my cars knowing they are tickey Boo for the next 6mths than have to keep doing little odd jobs here & there. I hate that part for me it’s get everything done in one hit or I just keep procrastinating which then causes even more problems.

[@jasperdemann5936]

I am *not* first.

[@GryphLane]

Neither am I

[@jasperdemann5936]

😄

[@GoldenCroc]

Is there any reasonable justification other than pure political ideology for not just having the road tax be part of the fuel tax, I wonder? I cant seem to think of any pragmatic/practical reason, at least not off hand.

[@Zadster]

1. I suspect people (well, daily newspapers) wouldn't stand for road fuel prices going even higher. 2. Electric vehicles. If it were taxed at commercial charging points at diesel/petrol rates, people would just charge from home.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@Zadster Yes, I was thinking of both those reasons, as well as a few more, but at least the second one wasnt an issue 10 years ago since there werent any number electric vehicles on the road to speak of. As for the first one, well it would be a fairer system for everyone, but I suppose you are correct in whats fair or not isnt very interesting to the genereal public either in comparison to "headline politics".

[@richardeasther2569]

How can you love such a stupid car -- get a proper old Citroen and have a real love affair

[@Zadster]

Like a DS/DSuper or SM? I can't imagine Mr. Kitch ever doing that. That would be stupid.

[@UPnDOWN]

Or a BX...