Sega is RUINING Speed Sim. | Sonic Speed Simulator Rant

[@TheRealSpartanCowboy]

tbh I have no idea why I'm swearing so much in this video 😭😭 this is what no script and a little bit of anger does to a mf

[@DarkMattarJF27107]

You W I feel Bad for you Become this game it's so Dead they need to stop talk about Golden egg And skin But Don't Worry they Will returning Characters Villain

[@TheRealSpartanCowboy]

@@DarkMattarJF27107 I just had a stroke reading that.

[@ImpulseTSB]

​@@TheRealSpartanCowboymy brain is bleeding from reading that 😭

[@ATHBizarre]

No more classic characters either, that means no fang, Ray, Mighty, Trip, the Hooligans, etc. I get that they have the “core four” of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy, but they really gotta swallow their pride and be a lot more loose with their mandates.

[@rosemarierivera3267]

You know it's funny it's true that no 'dead' character can't be game but Forces and Dash has the characters. Mephiles and Infinite are in both games and had different skins like Oni Mephiles and in Forces Speed Battle Warlock Infinite. Also someone that is in Sonic Team said like a year ago that Infinite and Mephiles has the possibility of returning in future games. So technically they could retcon their death just to bring them back. It will be funny if Sonic Rumble add those characters before SSS does. I just looked up Mephiles on the sonic wiki they removed his death status on his information and Infinite on wiki is not confirmed dead.

[@nikkzio984]

"No characters that quote-on-quote died in their debut game" Shadow: "Do I look like a joke to you?"

[@sgf51]

He didn't died, Eggman picked him up before impact, he confirmed it in Shadow 05

[@bbguy2245]

He was suppost to die though

[@Abbie-Apel]

also mephiles came back too

[@bbguy2245]

@@Abbie-Apel he's not in sss

[@szszabolcs9582]

​​@@bbguy22451. That's the point He SHOULD BE IN SSS 2. He died again in Shadow Gens

[@alolanfigment9822]

The actual worst part about Sega's mandates for me is the treatment of Classic characters. They are not allowed to add any Classic characters outside of the promotion period for Superstars. Trip and Fang were added, but only as NPCs that have since been basically removed from the game. Apparently it was a struggle for the team to even get Classic Knuckles and Classic Amy playable, and we're only allowed to see new alts for the main classic four during "special occasions" such as anniversaries, holidays, or promotions. No Mighty, Ray, Bark, Bean, Fang, Honey, Trip, Mecha Sonic Mk 1, Tails Doll, Metal Knuckles, or Hard Boiled Heavies.

[@kenrichgumanid9235]

So you think these mandates are now applied in different media?

[@fideosconcereal659]

Nibroc said in the server that there arent more skins for the 4 Main classics beacuse they didnt find good excuse to say to Sega

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@fideosconcereal659 really?! So we can't even get Christmas variants of classic Amy, Tails and Knuckles? Bruh!

[@sonicultimateyt1090]

@@fideosconcereal659 how bout "Mighty the Armidillo and Ray the Flying Squirrel got captured by Metal Sonic"

[@fideosconcereal659]

@@sonicultimateyt1090 if there is gonna be a new game where they appear as Main Char we could have a opportunity to get them, but since Sega said that there arent gonna be more classics except the base Main 4, we couldnt get them

[@Quionol]

I'm shocked if this game is actually canon. Dude, this is a Roblox game. Like yeah my favorite part in Sonic Frontiers 2 is when Sonic said "it's like when i had to grind 900 levels to rebirth for the trillionth time"

[@CASC4D3]

Imagine if builderman pulls up to the next sonic game💀💀😭😭

[@Quionol]

@@CASC4D3 "builderman is my dad" ahh final boss 💀

[@Vaffle_1231]

People rebirth?

[@Neon_Here09]

...so should i still hope of Mecha Sonic's MKII addition?

[@GiantRPLiker10]

5:26 thats a good big the cat impression tbh

[@Infinitefan37]

I 100% agree with u. As a huge Infinite fan I was so mad when I found out he cannot be added. Sega must understand that fans (except for dumb I-pad kids) won't be happy with the same "Sonic but with a different outfit" formula. It makes me mad also that characters such as Chaos Sonic (dead) and Doom Shadow (who at the end of shadow gens loses his powers) can be added only bc they're from a promotional event. Sega rlly only sees SSS as a way to advertise themselves. The only thing I can do unluckily is to just sit, wait, and hope that Sega becomes better and lets characters such as Infinite and Mephiles to be added.

[@rosemarierivera3267]

@@radudumitru3306 It's in the ending of Shadow Generations. Shadow loses his Doom powers.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Welp I just got spoiled on SonicxShadiw Gens I guess 😅 Anyway the double standard is real

[@Draco08]

Super shadow has phantom ruby after getting the chaos emeralds ….. soooo there a chance now

[@peewee0105]

I think one of the worst examples of this is their treatment of Super Neo Metal Sonic. He's in the game, there's a boss fight with him, and we already have Neo Metal Sonic (which by the way apparently they had to fight tooth and nail for adding him according to Nibroc), so literally why not just let him be a skin? Sega rejected Super Neo Metal Sonic as a skin and the backlash was so bad that Nibroc had to include a giant message on the bottom of the announcement to say "Please note that Super Neo Metal Sonic is only a boss fight and can not be unlocked as a skin as per SEGA's wishes". Like we aren't allowed to have a yellow colored Neo Metal? Why not? He's literally the EXACT SAME CHARACTER, but YELLOW. No lore reason either, we literally defeat him as Super Sonic so it's not like he'd be "Overpowered". Plus if Overpowered is the reason, then tell me why Knuckles with a Fedora or Tails in a Conductor Hat are literally the most broken characters in the game?

[@TheRealSpartanCowboy]

tbh I could care less for a piss flavoured super robot, the boss fight sucks too.

[@Neo_Flame-21]

@@TheRealSpartanCowboy I want the piss bot tho

[@thebeard8292]

@@Neo_Flame-21 same

[@ChaotixSonicScience]

This was my very first thought when the Golden Eggs first arrived, Sega allowed this update and it is extremely stupid how they want this in their official Roblox game.

[@MiZtaAZuki]

you do realise this is ALL gamefam? SEGA hasnt done anything with the game since they licensed it as official. Heck they prob dont even know it exists anymore

[@SMAS_YT]

@MiZtaAZukisega has to approve the updates

[@MiZtaAZuki]

@SMAS_YT no, they used to buy it's obvious that they don't, gamefam showed they're true intentions when reborn released and sega stopped approving so now it's just gamefam that does everythibg

[@Shadowtheultimatechaosform-c4l]

@@MiZtaAZuki sss got really boring once sss reborn came

[@sonicmaiden2871]

I mean this isn't their priority. Most Sonic fans are really happy with console Sonic games like Frontiers and SonicxShadow Gens so there is where they get the most profits. Speed Sim is just an extra profit and promotion thing for them sadly.

[@Hazcaz10]

Mephlis isn't dead. He's just trappped in prison.

[@live_east4]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[@TheCelerBolt]

EXACTLY.

[@shuckleknuckles3581]

Let my mans out he didn't do nun

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Idk why we didn't get him as a skin in speed sim as one of the skins in SonicxShadow Generations collab. I think he would've been perfect!

[@DarKou731]

@@Hazcaz10 well they confirmed that mephiles has been delete from the timeline in sxsg so it's still impossible. I want mephiles to but we need to be real

[@sikosonix901]

3:53 Woah Woah Woah, Sonic Team is not a part of this. They were subject to the mandates too. That's why characterisation in the 2010s was either dumbed down or straight up incorrect, with Colors, IDW, Forces, and the like. In fact, the famous "Cowards run. I win" phrase came about because of such mandates. But on that note, I will say there is hope. The mandates are starting to go away. Specifically for mainline releases, SEGA no longer has Sonic Team in a stronghold. That's probably why we got to see Black Doom, Metal Overlord, and Mephiles. It doesn't confirm that it will happen, but it makes the possibility real that some day these things will get lifted.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

I hope you're right! It's good to see them at least in the mainline releases ngl!

[@evaharris5173]

With the most recent update, they finally added the phantom ruby to the game so lets hope that this means that they will add all the good characters we all want.

[@Mike_Gaming_]

well here’s some good news strike confirmed in his twitter that phantom unmasked will get his mask in the future.

[@EveryUserWasTaken-ye2I]

hopefully for an actual event

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Good but I really hope he won't be on the damn eggs.

[@noahspeedz2295]

1:34 THEY'RE IN SONIC FORCES SPEED BATTLE. 2:44 THANK YOU.

[@porterdz]

I wonder if sega hates money sometimes. Like actually, they do this all the time for some reason. They still consider some super forms canon like knuckles and tails, yet they only get a single piece of merch as if they had to win the lottery to get it. This series is a huge cash cow, yet we can’t get characters in a game because they’re canonically dead? So that means no Starline? No chip buddy? What’s even worse was super neo metal. The first IDW character in the game officially, you couldn’t get. We’re even lucky we got Phantom Rider Sonic in the game, so I’m hoping we will at least get Surge for more antagonist characters. Yet sega still refuses us to have any other villains playable. Heck you can’t even play as eggman, which I know a lot of people would want to play as even if he wouldn’t fit as much.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

My brother's favorite characters are literally Eggman, Infinite and Mephilies and none of them are playable in sss. I feel bad for him :( At least my favorites are in aka Silver and Blaze.

[@DarkMattarJF27107]

​​@@sonicmaiden2871yes me too :(

[@Calipso-tq3ww]

Bruh that's more ideas for golden egg characters.

[@alys_the_tw1sted]

Thankfully they added Tangle today.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@alys_the_tw1sted yeah! I'm so happy they added Tangle!

[@theanimatormustachegrunt3307]

1:43 meanwhile in dragon ball developer can added any movie villain in every future installment of games despite they died in debut movies

[@CallansWorldYT]

Man Gamefam should just do events where when a dead character is coming back to the game just say “Oh it’s a Phantom Ruby Version”, I mean Mephiles was in a CURRENT SONIC GAME so just do that as an excuse.

[@Cindermoo]

Sega doesn't want that 😭

[@Cindermoo]

What I mean by this is that it was said they aren't allowed to use excuses like this

[@TronicSSJ07]

Hand me the muscle stimulators, because I’m giving Sega’s brain a jumpstart.

[@Jdominik9]

FUCKING SANTA SONIC IN SONIC FORCES SPEED BATTLE💀

[@sgf51]

Holiday Cheer Sonic

[@A_faster_hero]

They (Sega) kinda introduced gambling in sonic 2 all you tried to do is hit the jackpot of rings (casino night zone or whatever it’s called ima look again) and same with sonic two absolute and sonic 3, sonic 3 and knuckles, sonic 3 a.i.r (a.i.r stands for angel island revisited if you didn’t know) and kinda getting the emeralds it’s self ya know like if you fail you try again and again and again and so on.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Air and Absolute are fan made mods. They're still based on Sonic 2 and 3 though. It's true that a lot of Sonic games have gambling slot machines in them but at least those didn't have any content locked behind them and just gave some score bonuses. Here's the list of official Sonic games who contain gambling slot machines: Sonic 1, Sonic CD, Sonic 2, Sonic 3 & k, Sonic Adventure 1/DX, Sonic Heroes, Shadow the hedgehog ps2 game, Sonic Lost World, Sonic Frontiers, Sonic Forces, Sonic Mania, Sonic Runners (had a gambling spin wheel instead), Sonic Generations (Casino Night pinball DLC), Sonic Rivals 2, literally flipping card (Napoleon and other card games of sorts) mobile Sonic games exclusive in Japan, Sonic Pachinko and Slot machines also exclusive to Japan. In conclusion, Sega really loves flipping gambling!

[@KPeraOfficial]

its ridiculous that Speed Sim has so many fucking skins yet we can only get 2 characters per world. And most of the skins depend on limited time events

[@eliasdubon-hernandez9190]

WE HAVE THE RUBY

[@1fox_boys]

It sucks that I will never get to play as Infinite... But hey , I think Tangle's being added , my fav comic character , so , Thanks to the picture that came out of the fall world??? I wonder what that'll be called , Someone who looks like Tangle being in the hay!

[@1fox_boys]

SSS being canon is the dumbest shit ever

[@Gamers_Curse]

Totally agree I mean just add E-102 Gamma already 😭😭😭

[@YeetusShadow]

Apparently not, bc Gamma is ded

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Robots can be repaired this is stupid :/

[@Germs-ys4bh]

"It is my IP to sit on and do nothing with it" - SEGA probably

[@sonicmaiden2871]

We do get Sonic games every year though so they don't really do nothing with it.

[@mintwantsacookieanimations3473]

The thing is that there’s also a bunch of non dead characters that people want in this game, characters like Whisper and Tangle are popular choices and the existence of the Phantom Rider skin proves that IDW characters can be added into the game. But nope instead we get ANOTHER Sonic reskin.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Disappointing honestly

[@fivenightsatthefreddys]

“Canon” more like marketing strategy

[@corbangonzalez4935]

“Characters who died in their debut game can’t be in the game” Metal Sonic and Shadow: NERVOUS SWEATING

[@YeetusShadow]

It was confirmed, in Shadow 05, that Eggman picked up Shadow, BEFORE he crashed on Earth, which means, SHADOW ISNT DEAD!

[@corbangonzalez4935]

@ I was referring to SA2. Even tho he came back, the series was supposed to end at SA2. So it kinda counts.

[@Classicsonicova]

Infinite actually might be coming to sonic speed simulator!

[@TheGamer-jm3in]

For real though, sega and gamefam sold badly, and they say sega listen to their fans, sure, so much that they kept the eggs for the past months doing 6 waves to this day, they only "listen" when it's beneficial for them it seems, if its "oh so canon", then why on earth would sonic wear himself in aluminum, why would sonic characters be inside gold eggs and shit like that... sega is just allowing their own franchise get ruined with gambling RNGs, "normal" skins in gold eggs just made me lose hope, if they're gonna keep doing this with every character, wether is gold, or chrome or whatever, and not to mention the aftermath of this shit, when because of trading and greedy kids, the game becomes a sonic auction bidding simulator

[@unkownunkown2420]

Well phantom rider is from idw and that’s canon

[@TheGamer-jm3in]

@@unkownunkown2420 and is that a valid reason to make a skin that has nothing to do with gold being on the damned eggs? my point was about the eggs, not what is canon and what is not, this had everything to be a normal neat riders themed event, if the masked one comes in the eggs as well, i'm never trusting gamefam again

[@unkownunkown2420]

@@TheGamer-jm3in Just saying, thought u didn’t know phantom rider didn’t come from idw

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@TheGamer-jm3in you're spitting facts! And since I couldn't get a single chrome Sonic on the eggs I went and traded for him and traded flipping 67k red rings, gold egg metal and 2 exotic gold Tails for him -_- Also some dumb kids kept saying in some servers "try and earn the skin yourself". BRO I FLIPPING OPENED OVER 300 EGGS AND HAVE BEEN GRINDING FOR OVER 2 WEEKS AND STILL DIDN'T GET A SINGLE CHROME STYLE SONIC!!! I'm just tired of this shit man and the fact that we got a normal looking skin on the eggs doesn't make me optimistic at all. In fact, I'm actually scared we might end up only getting new skins on eggs and gamepass things and that we might not get any new skin events anymore. To be honest, the skin events are already pretty rare and we get mostly eggs and gamepasses since months.

[@TheGamer-jm3in]

@@sonicmaiden2871 for real though... and seeing people defending the eggs makes me crazy, they say "great red rings farmer", yeah, to the point not even that can happen, you open 10 eggs, 9 were silver chao and only 1 was red rings, these people can't really see, wasting hours of your life to gain that, you grind for hours just for the SLIGHTLY chance to get the actual skin, if only you could be granted to get the skin after the grind like every event, would be understandable, but no, its all if you're lucky enough, and thats why gold eggs should've never existed at all, the game lost it's meaning and fun because of it, from running to get stronger to running to try your luck

[@partyfoxdavy]

Sega being a damn hypocrite is fucking annoying... I literally said the same thing before, just cause in Sonic Forces Battle shows the characters we want and not because they're "illusion clone copies" but Sega wants to troll us 😑💢

[@sonicmaiden2871]

And Sonic Forces Speed Battle has worse gameplay than Speed Sim in my opinion. Shame honestly -_-

[@FriedWafflez8208]

Sega when gambling is added: OK that's fine Sega when Gamma is considered: NNOOOOOOOOPPPPPPEEEEEEEE

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Priorities I guess :/

[@FloobusGoobus26]

So you may not believe me for this but apparently the reason why SSS is considered canon by sega is that the official account tweeted that everything was canon. Meaning all sonic media is canon regardless and its most likely that SSS is for sure in a different universe and events like sonic 06 and adventure 1 happened all already due to the characters that died in their debut game not appearing except black doom.

[@ArleeySafari]

SSS has a lot of stuff that contradicts its source material, so I don’t know why they’re crazy enough to make the game less fun just to try to keep it canon. Even without SSS in there, which makes no sense whatsoever, the canon is pretty screwed.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

I guess It's cannon that Vector likes gambling at the gold eggs in his free time

[@S.F.Y.T.A.G]

I'm sorry, Sonic Gambling Sim is FUCKING CANON?!

[@TypicalHaribo23]

First hahahahaha, seriously though, you are right about Sega ruining the game, but gamefam also have the decisions such as gold eggs and sega is allowing it, it's really stupid that they want to keep it canon too... a roblox game....

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Sega and Gamefam are a really good team!...at ruining the game together...

[@kaobunn]

is there a source that stated speed sim is canon? the movie characters are in the game, so naturally id imagine it's non-canon

[@ThePlayerRolo]

TO answer your first queston, its skins that no one cares about being all over the place, the enormous P2W mechanics, and the potiental that was lost when this game was made. Oh and to top it all off, GameFam, a company who doesn't give a care to its employess made it. EDIT: WAIT WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK? SONIC SPEED SIMULATOR IS CANON? WHAT THE HECK? ALSO MEPHILES IS ALIVE IN SHADOW GENS SO THAT DOESN"T EVEN WORK! WHAT THE HECK! NO CHAOS IS ANOTHER IMEDDIATE L

[@therealkirito4280]

The absolute lag on the ps4 version is what's killing it for me

[@TAHAELALOUANI-ii6hi]

Tbh I was hoping for other fake metal skins like fake metal shadow for this halloween but it is not allowed because sega calls this a dead skin all it is just sonic character just with there old and original animation with damn fake metal mean while sonic forces speed battle has 109 characters which is more than half the character are dead characters

[@FrostclawTheGatomon]

SEGA's CEO doesn't know how to make this game any better than it is. Can they just fire SEGA's current CEO and get a new one?

[@espiodaw]

speed sims been ruined since the reeboot imo but you made a good point in this vid like why the hell is it canon

[@Vaffle_1231]

Holy shit The fact they won't let Gamma appear in SSS really makes me upset because he is a severely underrated character that barely gets anything Like he had 2 plushies one of which is barely existing due to its awful material he had 1 figure released back in 1999 Hopefully Jakks is able to make a Gamma figure because they were able to make a Chaos and Mephilies figure ANOTHER THING HEY AMY YOUR FRIEND YOU HAVE MADE HAS MYSTERIOUSLY VANISHED AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM? It's like Sega wants to emphasize certain things from Sonic Adventure 1 but Gamma? Nah shove him in the closet Did you know he made ONE small cameo in the Tailstube Christmas special? ON A FUCKING BOOK? AND EGGMAN DOESN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE FUCKING ROBOT HE HAS CREATED I am just so mad so sorry for yapping I think I'm done

[@Dayronthesonicfan]

As a Sonic forces speed battle and sss player I can agree that hardlight sega cares more about hardlight then Sss

[@Digicara64]

how is infinite even dead? he just vanished

[@alexkuntmm7201]

it was confirmed in the official encyclo-speed-ia

[@Infinitefan37]

@@alexkuntmm7201 Rlly they just said he was "consumed" by the Phantom Ruby.

[@kenrichgumanid9235]

Felt like the Ruby itself is one entity now. There's only one way to find out.

[@DJInfiniteRuby8]

Same with mephiles , he literally returned in the newest damn game. I would love infinite and mephiles to be in the game one day , but I barely have hope

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@DJInfiniteRuby8 same

[@helpw]

Did they already added sonic and the black knight characters and darkspine sonic?

[@TheNoiseRator]

Does he know sega doesnt control anything in this game

[@TheRealSpartanCowboy]

.... sega has to approve everything gamefam wants to add, so yeah, they have control.

[@ChristinaStonee]

Ok 1. Fact : How does even Neo metal sonic still been alive he never transformed ????

[@soncks.e1207]

I think sega just selected the worst companie for do a game in roblox, gamefam

[@spider-soniczilla2989]

Wait, but the Twitter Takeovers are also cannon, and Infinite is alive and trolled Eggman with Sonadow art. No, im not kidding.

[@live_east4]

To be honest i was gonna suggest the lore for Infinite's return but the discord people goes NOPE HES DEAD...i mean at least Gamefam could at least do is make a spinoff called Sonic Speed Simulator: Villains where its all villains dead or not or Sonic Speed Simulator: to the multiverse where that Sonic-verse can reintroduced the Archie universe I feel like ill get lots of likes from this concpet

[@DarkMattarJF27107]

W

[@ToadProduction1]

The battlepass is outrages also the price is as much as a brawl stars plus and it takes so long to level up

[@BlueFish2910]

the new sonic models is hard for them to do, they each all have different meshes and if they were to change it, it would be VERY broken, having double the hands and feet, weirds arms, and stuff like that.

[@matasjuska9621]

Ye fr I agree with you dude gold style sonic needs to get updated bro!!!

[@sonicmaiden2871]

And needs to be brought back as well.

[@matasjuska9621]

@@sonicmaiden2871 true

[@Tato_theTomato]

The only reason chaos sonic was added was for the sake of promotion if it wasn’t for that rule no prime characters would be in the game beside sonic with (silly shoes and gloves) as they are no longer accessible so kinda like the mephiles treatment of not existing.

[@Chuxlol]

Honestly sure the phantom rider got added which is a cool IDW character of sorts, but if they add surge and kit onto the golden eggs ima lose it but in the case of the Tikal and Chaos, they didn’t “die” last I checked they went back into the master emerald after SA1

[@Bluefang23]

If they make a rule saying Sonic cant have his eyes covered up, say goodbye to Excalibur Sonic

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Winter Sonic does have his eyes covered during his idle for a few seconds I think.

[@REAL_NOLAR]

Were so fucking lucky for tangle I swear

[@ChaosAttorney]

GameFam absolutely is who I blame because this game could've been so much fun without the gambling aspect, but since it's always been apart of it I never could like Speed Simulator did play it though, the game feels actually great and has some good momentum physics it just sucks that it's got so much gambling because there's so much potential Sega mandates are a bitch though

[@madblendy5099]

I agree with everything else but the rule that sonic can’t have his face covered up is straight false cause nibroc said shortly after the update that they’re added masked phantom rider soon

[@Kaydon122]

And also the Brock is the best because he tries to make the the skins in the game, but hell no Sega always says no fuck off

[@luttlunughtmurus]

This game is not canon

[@AdamSchrimpsher-hb2yx]

I 100% agree with you

[@cake2943]

Once i unlocked omega, that was it. I was complete

[@Shadowtheultimatechaosform-c4l]

Gold eggs was the worst thing ever in the game

[@sonicmaiden2871]

I agree. The grind is really boring since you just auto run and you don't even get the skins after so much grinding. I opened over 300 eggs and didn't get a single chrome Sonic at least.

[@DaDumbOne]

I want to be Solaris in speed sim

[@shuckleknuckles3581]

1:48 We need to roit against that

[@shashsow7113]

If mephiles died in 06 why is he in sonic X shadow generations

[@kenrichgumanid9235]

To die again.

[@Tato_theTomato]

Time eaters shenanigans

[@BuhawiManiti]

espically trip..

[@Calipso-tq3ww]

A thepry i got for Chaos Sonic is that they made that it takes place before he was killed buy it's still stupid, game is mid to be honest.

[@CorruptFox92]

Where's the proof that Sega says that "Speed Simulator is canon" despite the fact that it has no story? Also, these "mandates" for characters like Infinite, Chaos, and Mephiles not being allowed to appear because they're canonically dead sounds made up. Those three have appeared multiple times since in not only spin-offs, but main series games as well.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

A dev said it on discord. That's where this info's from. I agree these Sega mandates are stupid though.

[@CorruptFox92]

@sonicmaiden2871 Oh fuck, I forgot they had an official Discord server like with Runble. That sucks, though...

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@CorruptFox92 yeah :(

[@Amarachi-w7x]

another problem of this game is that they keep on adding reskins of characters we already have meanwhile all we want is a whole entirely new Major character that everyone likes

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Fr

[@SegaMario]

I'm frustrated that SEGA won't let us unlock Super Neo Metal Sonic. Like...for christ's sake, what is *WRONG* with that? Yeah, Base Neo Metal Sonic is already a "Super" character, but he's slower than Super Sonic and isn't invulnerable against Eggman's freeze attacks. Super Neo Metal Sonic could simply just retain Super Sonic's traits and get a Chaos Spear-like attack since he uses that in his boss battle. And if they must, they could nerf base Neo Metal Sonic so there are more differences between him and his Super form. Hell, base Neo Metal Sonic could've been an Exotic character and be rid of the Super Sonic aura he strangely has when that's obviously more fitting for his Super Neo form. And stop disallowing dead characters. They literally brought back Gamma in Speed Battle, so they're clearly contradicting themselves - they're really talented at being blithering hypocrites.

[@BuhawiManiti]

like they cant even put whisper or mighty and ray...

[@alyx9191]

gold eggs without a doubt and the borderline gambling

[@TeresaKazimirska]

10000g is the perfect template for eggman

[@BAked69420]

Didn’t Mephiles Return though?

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Yes. He was a boss in SonicxShadow Generations.

[@ChaotixDavid]

In the vid the eggs said 0/50 so either hes making a tantrum on not getting anything or hes idk something. But i guess i agree

[@FluppietheRockruffFan]

Reminder it isn't just Sega, it's gamefam, and they aren't....the best people in the world I'm just gonna say that

[@OfficialChaosDX]

Also for the “dead characters” not being allowed…what about nine? Isn’t he dead? If that’s the case then why is he in the game?

[@kenrichgumanid9235]

Promotional event

[@I-Beat-Raikous-in-my-basement]

that’s bullshit, why can’t we get some of our fan favorites 😭

[@NanagoBlake]

Just give us playable eggman and i am happy Also that "no low poly" rule sucks balls...i want sonic r sonic goddammit!! Fuck SEGA

[@victor-vyt]

If the game is canon, does that mean roblox characters are cannon in the sonic universe?

[@jamaler-ob5ug]

i have a idea on how they can bring dead characters back either bring back the phantom ruby somehow or have a white space event i don’t know the dead characters rule is stupid

[@DarKou731]

The pixel skins are okay cuz it required to be on a special world that change the physic and its in the game its technically a "form". Chaos sonic was added as a promotion for sonic prime. So what i can understand is that our only way to get a dead character or any other shit, is for a promotion. About sfsb and dash its not canon or its really that phantom ruby shit that was never confirmed by sega or hardlight.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

We had Mephilies in SonicxShadow Generations as a boss so idk why we didn't get him added to speed sim as well.

[@DarKou731]

@sonicmaiden2871 I'm sure at 99% gamefam asked for adding him as a promotion cuz they know we all want mephiles. Sadly sega probably refused for some reason cuz theres no way they not even asked to add him

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@DarKou731 true. Gamefam probably did ask for him to be included. Just Sega stubbornness to not add him to Speed sim baffles me.

[@szszabolcs9582]

Tbh I COULDN'T CARE LESS OF MEPHILES OR INFINITE NOT BEING IN THE GAME If the game would be fun, I WOULD NOT CARE about the characters. There are a lot of things that could be added to make the game more replayable, like... A Time Trial creator letting people make time trials in the world New stages that are fun and long (about 2-3 minutes) New types of events that keep the game fresh A trick system that would encourage people to make some crazy trickshots or just chain sky rings or enemies togheter without touching the ground (the Super characters are in a disadventage in the system as a means of balancing them out) And there are even more things that would actually change the game In short, if Gamefam can make fun new feutures, i don't care about the characters

[@sonicmaiden2871]

We just need actually engaging updates and new content not flipping gold egg and gamepass updates. The ninja Shadow update was actually pretty fun in my opinion and I liked finding all the scrolls for Kunoichi Rouge. I just want more updates like it, more action race tracks and more time trials. Maybe even the obbies and tag mode should be brought back as well. I just want updates were you do something. The gold eggs and gamepass updates are just afk grinds in auto run or whatever and those get me really bored with the game. These kind of updates aren't engaging or fun at all -_-

[@paocomdoritos6114]

We will not able to play with maria in the game 😔

[@chaos_makerYT]

how tf is it canon with classic sonic and sonic prime in the game, is it a multiverse game or smth? thats been my biggest thought with the whole canon thing. and im gonna be honest this issue is worse than the gold eggs, i said it

[@stephanygomez6938]

Strike confirmed Phantom unmasked the skin Not the unmasked Verison was from the comics series

[@andrebrown9580]

Issues with infinite he isn't dead no like he just disappeared he didn't die

[@YoylecakeDev]

If Sonic Speed Simulator is Canon, then why haven’t any of the characters within the official sonic content IE The games, TailsTube, and Twitter Takeover mentioned anything from Sonic Speed Simulator? At this point i’m even more glad i quit roblox

[@kenrichgumanid9235]

Namedropping.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Of course the Roblox avatar is an important Sonic character to the lore 😅 This cannon stuff is bs! I'm a long time Sonic fan and I don't consider speed sim cannon at all. It's just a spinoff game which most fans won't even play.

[@talkingcoreylittlebigplane6054]

Sonic Speed Sim, Sonic Dash, and Sonic Forces Speed battle are not canon. Sega just says that to make people care about them so they can get more money. The same way that Sonic Prime isn’t canon but Sega says it is so they can drive up toy sales and get more money. But none of these things can feasibly work in the timeline established by the games/comics. The only way they can work is if the Sonic series takes place in a multiverse where there’s an infinite amount of universes that are all in a vacuum and separate from each other.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Instead of getting actually good new skins like Mephilies, Infinite, Gamma, Chaos or Tikal, we're getting lame and lazy reskins of existing skins like chrome Sonic, grim reaper metal, Werehog with flipping chains on him, gold egg metal Sonic, etc. Also I heard that Sega doesn't allow Gamefam more classic characters for now either so no Fang even though he's alive, no Bean, Bark, Honey the Cat, Tails Doll, Metal Knuckles, Mighty, Ray and Trip. Stupid Sega mandates -_-

[@braydenplays3182]

Bro if they got rid of these rules they would stop adding golden eggs and random shit because they would have so many other ideas💀

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Or they cpuld lock characters like Infinite or Mephilies behind gold eggs 💀

[@braydenplays3182]

@ if they do I would kill myself

[@fideosconcereal659]

They also said there wont be any fake metal skins, so RIP fake metal charmy

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Bruh really? They could've made all teams from Sonic Heroes as fake metals since that's cannon!

[@SonicManiaShorts]

Goat posted? Bet

[@Asr0dud3]

I’m convinced these eggs are rigged. I was Afking all night once, and when I check to see what I had got, I had SIXTY TWO SILVER STYLE CHAO AND FIVE GOLD JETS I’m so done with these eggs man 😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@Munasir-m2p]

wasnt tmnt in the game at one point?? 😂

[@DarKou731]

If sss was not canon we would be saved 😭