Sega's First Holographic Arcade Game Ever! - Rerez

Time Traveler by Sega was labeled the World's First Holographic Video Game on its release in 1991. But how does it play today?
Special thanks to The Strong National Museum of Play for working with us on this episode: MuseumOfPlay.org
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[@darktetsuya]

I did think it was neat back in 1991 seeing the 3D effect with the holograms, but yeah it's just your basic reflex laserdisc game

[@JeffreyPiatt]

The awkward part is that when Sega cd came out it's first games included fmv titles that worked the same way. Night Trap is a even more interesting case as it was not first programmed for the Sega Cd but for a Aborted Hasbro VHS based video game system after it was cancelled the developers had already filmed the footage so they ported to the Sega system.

[@DerekWrites]

They had this at the arcade in the Walt Disney World hotel we stayed at in the 90s! I still remember the old man taunting us "You gotta turn before you shoot!"

[@oinvasor84]

Greetings from Brazil! I played this one back in 92. Also afterburner 360.

[@NextGenCouncil]

Played this game at a barcade on release as a kid. I just remember walking around thinking what to play. I spotted this machine its design lured me to it and I spent about 20 bucks on it.

[@xnsimmonsx]

Oh my god when I was a little kid playing his game all I could remember was "turn before you shoot"

[@ThaShowStopper]

Loved this game as a kid, Shout out to Rochester NY

[@joeshabado1431]

I remember that game. It blew my 11 year old brain

[@Nige031077]

Liking the distressed Ghostbusters T-shirt, I used to have one, did you buy it from a store or online? I was thinking of ordering one off Amazon but I ain't made up my mind yet. 😖

[@keithfulkerson]

Check out the Voxon Z3D for actual volumetric 3D games.

[@pbb817]

Nice

[@zoomstop]

Remember pumping so many quarters into this game around '95 at the mall. It was too hard, but the effect was amazing to a farm kid like me at the time. Thanks for the huge wave of nostalgia here!

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

Nah I was a city kid in California back in the 90s and let me tell you this thing was like whoa when you first saw it. But then you played it and got annoyed quickly by how terrible and difficult it was.

[@NoThanksnothanks]

Tom Hazel same

[@gracekim25]

Cool

[@keeganmoshe6816]

dont know if you guys gives a damn but if you are stoned like me during the covid times you can watch pretty much all of the latest series on Instaflixxer. Been streaming with my brother during the lockdown xD

[@kolejustin9765]

@Keegan Moshe yea, I've been using instaflixxer for years myself :)

[@TheHangarHobbit]

You missed what I always thought was the most interesting thing about that style or projection...it actually predates modern technology and was used on stage over 100 years ago and was called "Pepper's Ghost". It is also the same trick used for the Haunted Mansion and is now being used to have computer generated dead celebs play "live" in concert.

[@highpineapple]

Exactly. Just like Tupac at Coachella.

[@jayn8392]

There are actually a fair few old arcade games that use the mirror trick. Most are doing it the put the image over a drawn background or something though, not to look 3d.

[@mrdeatheli]

​@@highpineapplethat was actually Elvis in blackface!

[@JomasterTheSecond]

I'm glad SEGA finally managed to make an arcade cabinet out of a washing machine.

[@CommodoreFan64]

Looks more like they cut up a refrigerator lol!

[@cornjobb]

you're confused. it isn't a washing machine. it's white, though, so that may be the issue.

[@JomasterTheSecond]

wooooosh

[@CosmicSponge2004]

Leave it to SEGA to do the weirdest things.

[@Imgema]

Rerez: Playing fighting games with one button is hollow Amiga users: Hold my joystick

[@johnjohnz3215]

Im in my 40s and have been trying to describe this cabinet to my nephews for FOR YEARS! And theay thought I was crazy! THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!😃👍

[@funkyweapon1981]

Sounds like when I tried to explain Burger Time to my friend's son.

[@ianthompson2867]

I tell people about it and no one knows what I’m talking about

[@PopCultureAnticSS]

I’m right there with you no one I know seems to remember this.I found one for Xbox still new so I’m sure I’ll get the feels just having it:)

[@ALitleBitSpecial]

I vividly remembered seeing this at an arcade on a family vacation as a very young kid, up until seeing it on the Internet decades later I assumed it was a false memory because holographic video games (practically) dont exist. It must have left a serious impression cause thats one of the only 3 or 4 things I remember from that entire trip. Edit: Thought it was FMV game because thats the only one I've seen online, it was 100% definitely the fighting game that I remember playing,

[@Marcus51090]

“Please state the nature of the medical emergency” How far away are we from real actual 3D holograms like iron man?

[@kevinharris6650]

I remember seeing that game in an arcade. I thought I had just imagined it as no one else seemed to remember it.

[@RockandrollNegro]

Same. I googled "white hologram cowboy arcade game 1991 1992" for years with no results. I mainly remembered the lame cowboy going "howdy pardner" and his dumb lines.

[@TechnicolorDojo]

Thanks for covering this, Shane. I was mystified by this cabinet as a child, being in a small town and having this at the local arcade was nothing short of magical to a six year old. I remember not really understanding how to play it, but would walk around it looking at it from all angles, wondering what that tv in the bottom was all about. It must not have been a hit because it wasn't around very long. I grew up and when I would mention it to other nerds I would always get a blank stare from all but a few. It might be the most early 90's videogames ever, that mix of technology and playstyle just couldn't and wouldn't exist anytime else. Fitting for a game called Time Traveler.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

Yeah it's weird this is definitely a memory that's stuck in the back of my head for decades now. Playing this at one of my local arcades and hating it even though it looked amazing.

[@nickp8307]

they have one of these in a barcade in Brooklyn and i swear it was the only cabinet i touched

[@Invidente7]

It was a very limited gimmick, but it was fun for what it lasted. Or at least time traveller was. It was okay for what it was, heck it was made by the creator of Dragon's Lair.

[@FoolyCoolyx989]

I played this at a mall for cousins birthday party. I remember being a little creeped out with the death skull. I played maybe three or four times. Gave up and jumped on Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles lol

[@paxhumana2015]

I was not creeped out, I was bored by this game, but I played TMNT and basically made the Foot Clan regret their poor life choices that day.

[@damambinator7740]

Oof, right in the nostalgia.

[@ClexYoshi]

I actually played Time Travelr at Galloping Ghost in Brookfield, IL

[@bruceaskew2107]

I just posted the same thing,, i stay in chicago i go to galloping ghost every few months with my son

[@Meikurey]

It's actually still there, isnt there the other one?

[@kriskeilman2087]

Friar Tucks in Calumet City

[@twicethemegapower3995]

I remember playing the Sega hologram fighting game Holosseum in a movie theater arcade back in the early 90s

[@blaknift]

There is still one of these at Arcade Legacy in The old Cincinnati mall.

[@hyphz]

You didn't mention this, which I discovered as a kid. You could buy cubes by adding extra credits. But if you lost your final life and didn't hit the reversal cube button, you LOST ALL THE CUBES YOU HAD PAID FOR! You thought DLC could be bad..

[@badmangee]

Shane: “it’s 1991” Me: nah, it’s 2020 (or at least 2019 when the video was uploaded)

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

I very clearly remember playing this at my local Scandia arcade back in the 90s. It was expensive and gimmicky. I remember it being 4 tokens when everything else was 1. And it was hard compared to any other game. I never played the dragon's lair or space Ace arcade games but I can see why they got phased out.

[@mgabrysSF]

The most amusing thing, without those blocks the illusion is borked : source : me. I own one. And it hasn't been converted to that lame fighting game. The games shipped with extra blocks to replace the default blocks if stolen (I have 2 sets). The laserdisc player is an early 90s model so it's far more reliable than LV1000s used in Dragon's Lair.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

Sorry but I don't think the word reliable can ever be used anywhere near LaserDisc technology. From what I understand at least compared to say DVD technology or blu-rays it had some serious issues.

[@mgabrysSF]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Tube-based early players yes, but the later models were nearly indistinguishable from their CDplayer counterparts (which is why you had hybrid players that would do both disks).

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@mgabrysSF I don't doubt it improved over time (I'm sure of it actually as I've seen a video on how it evolved over time) it seems like at least some of the technology never made it out of Japan but I fully admit I find laserdisc to be fascinating as a format. It really was DVD decades before DVD. Things like commentaries and extras are things mostly started by LaserDisc.

[@TonySakich]

The first time I saw (and played) this cabinet was at the penny arcade at Disney World in around 1993. The visuals blew me away and I couldn't wait to play it, unfortunately it was also my first experience with a laserdisc game and this game cost $1 at the time. My 3D Time Traveler experience lasted about one minute before I was dead. The technology was amazing but the game was just terrible. What's weird is I remember that moment from that trip the most all these years later. I love video games.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

That's the thing from going to Disneyland back in 1995 that I remember most (beyond the lines obviously) was how freaking sweet the arcades they had were. They had some of those now incredibly rare arcade gun games like point blank and just some unfindable impossibly obscure games.

[@TonySakich]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu The arcade was beyond anything I had seen at that time, games I never heard of and games that I only heard rumors of were there. The pre-internet days had some interesting times.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@TonySakich It's one of the single biggest reasons I want to go to japan. The arcade scene is still alive and thriving. Also I'm searching for some of the truly weird ones like the "butt slapping rhythm game". Go look it up it's amazing.

[@HeroJournalism]

Awful gameplay, but man seeing that holgraphic presentation back then was like seeing the future

[@dannycollazo4015]

Wow, what a flashback! I remember this game vividly. It was very impressive for its time.

[@Hairofthewolf]

SEGA also made the first laser disc based game called Astron Belt

[@djdazzydeaf7568]

WOW that's amazing I never knew this. It amazing how so many different tech that was available but way ahead of it time

[@drivenbyfate]

What weird timing, my local arcade just got one of these.

[@Blueinklingboy]

You should do videos on the iconic 4 Sega arcade games! I see you are from canada so you should check out the Skylon tower arcade, they have the full motion After Burner, Space Harrier, Galaxy Force and original Hang-On machines. There are a bunch of other rare games too.

[@christopherwalkinalloverya5824]

Galaxy Force deluxe cabinet is incredible!

[@Blueinklingboy]

@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 It looks amazing! I'll be going there this weekend so I'll give it a shot !

[@christopherwalkinalloverya5824]

@@Blueinklingboy That's by far my favorite 80's Sega game, and playing it with full motion seat is so fun!

[@phoenixbyrd79]

I remember when this came out! Was absolutely floored and loved it!

[@HenryFlores4]

Duuuuuuude!!!!! I was very young when I saw this at the arcade in the mall in the mid-90s. Then I forgot about it completely and thought it was a fever dream. I would mention it to fellow gamers and they all looked at me like I was crazy. I really thought I imagined it or Mandela Effected it. 😂 lol thanks for restoring my sanity 😂

[@RedWolfy7]

Thanks for the trip down memory lane! I thought these cabinets were so futuristic when I first saw them as a kid. You actually reminded me I own a copy of that DVD version you mentioned.

[@DiRtYLaWs2007]

I remember seeing one of these in the early 90’s. I think it was £1 or £1.50 per game (average arcade games back then were around 20p per credit in the UK) The game was utterly horrible and virtually unplayable. But an interesting concept.

[@joebigs2064]

I remember this. It looked cool but it sucked bad

[@General_X]

I remember playing this one wherever I could find it. May have been a cheesy game, but it was still fun and still had a way to drain all the money you brought to the arcade. One of my favorites as a kid, I wish an Arcade1Up-style company would remake the old cabinet for home use lol (Don’t buy from Arcade1Up, mine broke within two weeks and they literally left me in the dust with it)

[@lexlang7688]

Love the strong museum, and living in Rochester!

[@StevenReviews]

I live in Rochester also, i use to go there when i was little

[@OfTheBor]

I think I remember seeing/playing this at the forum in Cambridge in the early 90's. I Guaranteed that's where Rerez played this.

[@asadadon]

Loved Narc. The original arcade version was awesome the NES version was ok.

[@eins2001]

"You're busted!"

[@shroomie108]

I played this as a kid but i was too short to see the holographic image properly. You had to be the perfect height to enjoy this game which most of us werent. While this was an impressive game for its time, it was a highly flawed game due to needing to be at the perfect height to see the image properly.

[@TheFLOMAN76]

Ahhh..I remember this ..game? Weird. Hurt my eyes. Controls were bleh. Actors stunk. This whole huge thing just plain sucked.

[@worldofretrogameplay6963]

I beat this game back in the day. The holographic technology was the bomb!

[@chicagomodzz]

I played this in the Wisconsin Dells as a kid in the early 90t was $1 a credit.. That was a lot to a kid back then lol.

[@cecilwalker8339]

Love Sega and how they are always ahead of there time,especially with there arcades. They've been using SSD almost 9 years ago and consoles are now starting to catch on! SEGA!

[@brycevo]

This is such a cool arcade game

[@GenerationalGamer]

I remember playing this when I was a kid. My mother was shocked at the $1 entrance fee for a single game, but she let me try it anyway. Thirty seconds later, I was walking away with her because I got killed so quick. It looked amazing but the gameplay was atrocious...and to think people complain about "lag" today with a bluetooth controller.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

It definitely fell under the category of cool to look at terrible to play. It was all gimmick and zero content.

[@GenerationalGamer]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu 100% True. I was never a big fan of the laserdisc games anyway, but the hologram based graphics were like a moth to the flame. Very cool (to look at).

[@invaderzimm7871]

I remember this game costing 2 dollars per play in the arcade

[@dcb99filmz]

They have one of these at one of the two arcades I frequent

[@minidisx]

If you like holograms you'd love the Dio Hologram Concert In Las Vegas.... (Non sponsored, I just thought it looked cool)

[@chem9773]

Which dio??

[@minidisx]

Ronnie James Dio. They turned him into a hologram concert also, Prince, etc.

[@minidisx]

In the past there were other concerts which are on KZbin.

[@MarkDawsPresents]

I remember seeing this in an arcade far back in time, it did have a charm but was just hard to play making it a one and done.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Is it fair to call Laserdisc "basically vinyl but for movies", what with it being an analogue format and having plenty of format snobbery associated with it?

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

As a format I find LaserDisc fascinating. A very early predecessor to DVD that broke new ground at the time. I also find it interesting that the single thing that made it annoying (having to flip the disc) was solved by later models of the players. In the grand scheme of things it will go down in history similar to VCD's a cool format that has since been completely replaced and forgotten.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu, when I bought my Sega Saturn, it advertised an add-on that would play VCDs, I was fascinated. Of course, I never saw a VCD for sale in the UK, let alone the Saturn add-on to play one.

[@amolochitis30]

Used a bunch of quarters on that game!

[@PearangeProductions]

It looks like a washing machine... ...but it has an arcade game unlike any other. To be fair, I feel indifferent about the other games that were made like this, being Dragon’s Lair & Space Ace. Sure, it was awesome, but it was just one big quick-time event. But this...this actually feels...better. Even though I know it’s the same as Dragon’s Lair and Space Ace, the “holographic” nature of the console makes this thing SO much better. The only bad thing is the DVD game/PS2 port, but I think that’s to be expected from ports of Don Blooth’s games. Dragon’s Lair got ported to the NES, and Space Ace got ported to the SNES. They were incredibly difficult (although Space Ace knocked the challenge town at least a tad bit). And although the PS2 ACTUALLY had the power to make the game what it actually was, the game lost a big part of it’s charm because of it. Sure, the GAME was the same, but using 3D glasses can’t beat the holographic beauty that the arcade cabinet had.

[@devote]

Thanks man. I was waiting for some to talk about old arcade technology. Everytime I went to an arcade back in the day it was like stepping into the future.

[@Phaota]

Back in the early 90s, the arcade by Pasadena City College in California had one of these. I played it a few times, but the enjoyment factor wore off fast. The "Pepper's Ghost" holographic-style illusion was innovative, but not amazing.

[@kiodiekin]

I have the time travels game too bad it won’t run right

[@OtaconEmmerich]

I've played it in person it's really fun to watch but Gameplay is eh.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

Yup, the wow factor wears off pretty fast once you start playing it. I fricking hated this game back in the day.

[@8ByteBrian]

Wow, thanks Shane for doing a segment on this really cool arcade machine. I remember me & best friend used to play this every summer when we went down the shore in Ocean City, NJ, at Jilly's Arcade. My friend was really obsessed with the game & I think he even beat it. You're definitely right, back then the game looked totally futuristic & my 13yr old self was amazed! I did the same thing too moving my hand over the play field because I didn't understand how the game worked. Such a cool piece of video game history & I would love to see this brought out at more conventions for other people to experience it's unique style as well. I'm glad to say I got play this weird little oddity when it was new, and maybe it didn't hold my attention like Mortal Kombat II, but it was still pretty neat.

[@DrButthugger]

Jilly’s Arcade still the best arcade on the boardwalk

[@GlensRetroShow]

Man I played this at Atlantic city .. it was awsome

[@otaking3582]

The technique being used is a variation on Pepper's Ghost. Pepper's Ghost is where an actor or object is doing something off-stage / off-camera on a plain black background while the main set has a sheet of glass to reflect the image, giving it a ghostly appearance. The most famous example of this effect is the ballroom scene in Disney's Haunted Mansion ride.

[@Cranilla13]

Holy crap! I've been thinking about this game for decades! Didn't know the name of it, and couldn't find it through Google searches. Thank you for covering this! I remember the joystick being a trackball though.

[@zombiejlt1]

We had a version of this in my local arcade/mini golf place. I think it had both games in it, if not it for sure had HOLOSEUM. Very cool to check out but I was too into my fighting games to appreciate it. Awesome review Shane.

[@LorenHelgeson]

I never saw Time Traveler in person, but there was a Holosseum cabinet at my local movie theater as a kid. I never had money on me to try it out, but it looked very rough. The whole draw really was that hologram playing field.

[@DeadKoby]

If I recall, Other laserdisc games like MadDog can be converted to use a computer /w/ an SD Card. Some retro arcades have done this.

[@MarionRelics]

I never actually played it because it was insanely expensive. As I recall, it was something like 2 dollars per play when everything else was 50 cents. But it didn't really matter because looking was free.

[@hanselmanryanjames]

I used to play this game every time I went to Chi-Chi's as a kid. I loved it!

[@bruceaskew2107]

Ohhhhhh chi chi's i miss that place

[@dnice712]

You can play this game on PC with the emulator Daphne which also runs games like dragons lair and the other laserdisc games. Its a limited novelty but VR makes it a little better.

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

This thing is as retro future as it gets

[@randomninja]

This was so incredibly mind blowing at the time, but ya, the gameplay really sucked. Still a great attraction though, waving my hand through the characters was so crazy!

[@NoisyBones]

The technical name of the hologram effect is actually pepper’s ghost, it’s when a piece of glass reflects an object with specific lighting! The most famous use is in the Haunted Mansion in Disneyworld!

[@fusionspace175]

I'm just glad someone else remembered this game. I always liked it better than dragons lair as it was easier to see things coming and focus with the black background. Memorization and timing are key. I want that remake.

[@utubepunk]

I worked in an arcade that got this, so most people playing it were seeing it for the first time. 100% right about the button placement. I'd say 99% of people playing never hit the reversal button. It was a novelty for the time, but doesn't hold up well.

[@LelandReview]

One day every living room will have a Hologram coffee table. That they watch sports and concerts on. It will be a whole new era of video games to play on it.

[@SEGAGIGA]

Stupid thumbnail. You don't need 3D Glasses for this game. Makes your statement"when I saw this as a kid", seems made up.

[@DavidWonn]

As a kid at the time, I remember a Saturday morning show talking about this upcoming holographic game. I never was fortunate enough to run into the game in person though.

[@mrspicolli]

Oh thank God, I’m so so happy and relieved to see the name of the game was time traveler not hologram because I saw the thing in a walk-through of some arcade like the galloping horse or something turn on the top of it it just said hologram and I knew that couldn’t be the title. I was gonna be so mad if it was and I just never remembered it. I didn’t remember time traveler either, but as soon as I saw it, I recognized that that was the title, I wonder why the title isn’t on the machine in the arcade

[@richardadamson1438]

I guess it is one of those things that's cool in concept but stinks in reality. Still, I honestly think I would have enjoyed this as a kid.

[@mrspicolli]

Do you know what seems like it would’ve made a great transition onto that holographic machine? … hear me out. Primal rage! I think that they arcade version, even just in the animation style would’ve linked itself very well to translating into a hologram

[@justinholmes5614]

Played this with my Dad in the 90’s. I’ve not seen one since and couldn’t remember what it was called. I’ve been racking my brains over this for years, thank you

[@possibilitytv5652]

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[@JakeFromSpace]

Played it once. It sucked. Stopped playing.

[@TheFLOMAN76]

Lol... Pretty much

[@PopCultureAnticSS]

1991 Downey California Downey mall arcade happily giving my quarters away to this game.End of 2023 and as of this moment owner of the game :) no matter how the graphics are by todays standards this brought a genuine smile to my face it was a huge part of my childhood=]

[@ecu4321]

I saw that one playing here from waaaaay back in 92-93 here in the philippines (isetann recto) which had a dome-shaped screen

[@andythebouncer]

Perfect example of what happens when you've got a solution looking for a problem. Nobody was like "Oh, I have this cool game that would really mostly work with a holographic display. How do I make that happen?" They were like "Oh, I have this extremely limited holographic display concept. What sort of game can we jam into that format?" Just a cool-looking, quarter-stealing gimmick like Dragon's Lair. This is why game design is no longer considered a secondary task for people who knew how to make games using assembly code. Hardcore low-level engineers work their wizardry on game engines while artists and designers figure out how to make things actually compelling without having to worry about the hardware considerations.

[@zeliardforty-two4692]

I remember playing Time Traveller when my family went to this burger place. I thought the idea was neat but that was about it. I could never get too far and it just ate quarters. Also the cube was a scam! It cost extra quarters for just one! Whole this was still kind of neat to see again

[@TheBreathez]

PRINCE GEORGE BC, had this game...1997 at its arcade around the back of the Plaza located at fifth...I cant remember the street behind where the arcade was....maybe Tabor. The console itself wasnt SEGA, it was black, round short table type with a big curved cover. I thought it was amazing...but I was only at this arcade to play mini glow put in the basement, pool tables, or the Star Trek pinball game with Picard saying"Engage!" Other games there were DR MARIO, and a multiplayer game by SEGA for car racing...play Solo or up to four players. This game of holograms was very neat, but at the time didnt make sense to spend anything on.

[@holocaustxlx2819]

Awesome I remember playing this when I was a kid God I miss going to the arcade.90s kid for forever 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@cartmann94]

My local TimeOut had this arcade machine. It was cool at the time. it was a fantastical experience for me as a kid.

[@officialnofriendo]

We had one of these at our mall in CDA, Idaho. So epic!! For that time!

[@PANZERFAUST90]

lol I live in CDA :D

[@nickipriestley1066]

OMFG...you have no idea how long ive been searching for this game,for years ive been trying to remember what it was,,i used to go to ice skating just to play this game,i was obsessed with it...its been about 30 years,wow the nostalgia..would be nice to find a working unit somewhere i would gladly pay tons for this machine just to relive my youth🙂

[@craigwood9520]

I remember playing this game. It was downright terrible. Did I stop playing? Of course not! Holograms!! It's the future! NOW!!!

[@vtrip_]

Omg I remember this game!

[@TheZephyrsWind]

I hate the whole "let's make it look good but sacrifice game design & all other aspects." I don't care about super good graphics, I'm happy with last generation graphics for each new game. Great graphics delay release, can make buggy stuff happen, cost a lot to do & you'll find DLC or microtransactions are usually there to make up for the cost, & far more. Sure when I was a kid I thought all games were better & only good if the graphics are. Now, at age 31, I literally have games that are kinda using bland visuals but are more fun to play than AAA games, & aren't games there for fun anyway?