Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 - Just Bad Games

The worst Tony Hawk's Pro Skater game of them all!
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[@williek08472]

Shane and Adam being "RADICAL" on skateboards is priceless

[@gracekim25]

Yeah 😂 that’s priceless 😊

[@erainmartinez8175]

too bad this is sh##

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Him and caddy should collaborate one Day.

[@Bubbabyte99]

​@@nehemiahpouncey3607I believe Shane cameo'd in Caddy's old Bubsy 3D review that he did a billion years ago, so it's certainly possible!

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

@@Bubbabyte99 thanks.

[@theotherjared9824]

Tony Hawk is the reason Vans are still around. When he was just getting started in the 1980s, he found that the flat, treaded sole was perfect for gripping a skateboard. He spread the word, and now they're the standard in skateboarding.

[@RusticRonnie]

Well, they were. They aren’t any more and have been since the 2000s

[@inthegrass11]

​@@RusticRonniewhat brand would you say is the standard now? genuinely curious because i still 100% associate Vans with skateboarding

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

damn daniel

[@ajragle]

Watching this game come out was like hearing a good friend was coming back in town. Then it turns out that friend's just been doing a lot of hard drugs.

[@Gatorade69]

I disagree. Drugs can actually be fun, unlike THPS5. More like an old friend who is back in town who had been in a skateboarding accident, is depressed, in a wheelchair and brain dead.

[@canontheory]

@@Gatorade69 also THPS5 is so bad even drugs wouldn’t make it fun 😂

[@sergeantjoe]

Sooooo us and the THPS franchise are like Big Boss and Zero from Metal gear solid 4.

[@wickedishiccy7621]

​@@Gatorade69They definitely aren't fun when you're the only one down for them. Gotta read the room ya know

[@Gatorade69]

@@wickedishiccy7621 I mean you're not wrong but being the only one down for them means you don't have to share ; )

[@devonwilliams5738]

I'm amazed you didn't mention the fact that that Day 1 patch contains the entire game aside from the tutorial.

[@Schnort]

Wow

[@devonwilliams5738]

@@Schnort Yup. This game really was a dumpster fire.

[@henrynelson9301]

It was actually larger than the game

[@ChaseMC215]

​@@henrynelson9301 Even Flippy mentioned that Robomodo shipped the game before it was finished in his video talking about how bad the game is. Even mention that the patch was 7.6 gigs while the game itself weighed in at 4.6. This is the same guy who talked about the mess that was Agents of Mayhem, people!!!

[@syahminorizan8064]

​@@ChaseMC215And also the same guy who ranted about Saints Row 2022

[@LeafseasonMagbag]

I like how in the “Berrics” they removed all the interesting wall art in the real original location and replaced it with bad advertisements. Just Brilliant level design

[@theotherjared9824]

Oh, you mean the thing they did for the Venice Beach level. Take photos of the real place to make a non-looping wall texture full of real graffiti. The thing they borked in the HD remake and then rectified by taking new photos for the 1 + 2 collection.

[@LeafseasonMagbag]

@@theotherjared9824 13:30 look at the artwork and compare it to the GoPro and other advertisements in the game level

[@warrioroflight99]

Subway eat fresh

[@RTU130]

ye

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@RTU130Kanan Matsuura while playing THPS5 on her PS5 be like: 🤣🤣 And thats what it is when THPS5 had tons of glitches. 😂

[@hatshooter5121]

The first level is "the berrics". It's a legendary skate location/company in which eric koston is involved. It is modeled after the real thing. Most skaters would kill to skate that place. It is done exactly the way it should be done. Probably just not a good decision to make it the first level. Should have been a bonus location for real skaters to experience after they're done with the main game.

[@GmacAttack]

Ironic how they said that in the video lol.

[@hatshooter5121]

@@GmacAttack yeaaaaa...i know. Classic case of "watch the video before you comment"😅

[@LeafseasonMagbag]

The thing that sticks out most to me is how the game devs removed all the very pretty and interesting wall art of the actual location and replaced it with tacky advertisements

[@KasumiRINA]

​@@LeafseasonMagbagis wall art copyrighted? Might not have had license for it.

[@Dkrule1]

​@@KasumiRINAI mean, someone else made it, they would have to track down countless people to get the rights for jt

[@gaminggoddess85]

The most entertaining thing about this game is the ragdoll physics making the wipeouts look as painful as possible.

[@slappybagOG]

Majima chan!

[@Edrobot7]

Man I was just depressed when I saw this thumbnail. But on the plus side we got the really damn good THPS 1+2 remake a few years later, so at least this story has a happy(ish) ending.

[@Fuyu_Arashi99]

Plus THUG PRO is pretty much just THPS3+4 with even more levels, mod support for custom soundtracks and characters, and more.

[@Gloves-T-Catzero]

A remake means an awesome thing!

[@alejandrososa3168]

The thumbnail itself is better than THPS5

[@MrChaotic4]

@@alejandrososa3168 That patch that Activision put in was twice the size of the game itself, and it still did nothing!

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@Fuyu_Arashi99THPS3+4 remaster maybe released 2026.

[@RussyPopDnD]

I actually lost it at the Shake Shack bit

[@nthgth]

Me too, very Seinfeldian. but it's clear that a restaurant names itself before any of its stuff is famous at all and shakes are a rare feature.

[@LaineMann]

The funniest part is that he’s entirely right. Why name your store ShakeShack when you only have like 3 shakes and you’re more famous for your burgers.

[@MarvinPowell1]

@The Nerd Room The funny thing is, ShakeShack doesn't have good burgers OR shakes. It's all overpriced, overrated trash. By really, people don't have to take names so seriously, as Burger King doesn't have real royalty either.

[@nthgth]

@@MarvinPowell1 they probably named themself for their most unique planned feature, not something common they had no way to know they'd be famous for

[@FEARitself100]

​@@nthgthit's pulp fiction lol

[@DarknetDude]

I love the show, it simultaneously teaches aspiring game programmers what NOT to do while being HELLA entertaining, it’s also a huge blast from the past, a whole gaming documentary.

[@kiarastaggs180]

I couldn’t have said it better myself! The best example of a pseudo documentary laughfest around.

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Rerez:the caddy of KZbin.

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

It was good to see tony hawk back tho.

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

What you should be playing: The hd version of 1 an 2.

[@stevenray9229]

I think the biggest thing this should teach future game programmers is try not to take on a project that your team just cannot handle. Robomodo basically seems like a fallguy in this situation who will likely be producing shovelware until dissolution instead of the bigger name they could've attained by growing naturally instead of jumping at the first big offer that came along. Note: This is not to say "don't dream big" but that if you just got out of college and activision offers you a deal, think about it before jumping on it.

[@Fenrisson]

"He mastered the art of riding a wooden plank with wheels nailed under it". That's pure gold. This is top quality writing. That's why I love this channel so much.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@Fenrisson, Lisbeth (Rika Shinozaki) also owned THPS5 copy before in 2020. Yet she refunded it only 24hrs after she played THPS5.

[@jayarby8494]

This makes Razor Freestyle Scooter look like a masterpiece Man that was an old episode

[@Wnick1996]

Sure does

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Just wait till you see Skateboard Madness by Pheonix Games.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Scoot The Burbs, bros 🤙🏿

[@shawklan27]

​@Julianno Cartagena dude, it's phoenix games enough said.

[@juliannocartagena2007]

@@shawklan27 But that’s not enough.

[@solidskullz5736]

My friend was so excited for this game, I went over to his house so we could play it since I watched him play tony hawk when we were kids. He was really pissed when it turned out to be a hollow shell of it’s predecessors

[@tjfreeland4257]

Tiny hawj😂

[@z304legend]

​@@thearousedeunuch but if you grew up with these games it shouldn't matter It doesn't matter man we don't care if the game even looks like the PlayStation 1 version we like to play stuff we used to play as kids. Also not every game you need to read a review to know if the game is good or not sometimes you could like the game for the game

[@z304legend]

Yeah Mike Tony hawk pro skater 1 and 2 I bought for the Xbox the remake or whatever doesn't work at all even offline does not work at all and you shouldn't need to always read reviews to see that you'd like a game or not sometimes when you see a game and play it you can just like it even if it's bad

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

We could even play as his son.

[@Pipkiablo]

@@z304legend If the game is pure garbage, blind nostalgia for a game from your childhood is not enough to save it. Believe me, most of us want to see an actually good new release for games from our childhood, not a soulless cash grab like this that has even less content than the first game in the franchise. Reviews absolutely should be looked at as a guide so you have at least an idea what to expect. Negative reviews don't necessarily mean you won't like the game, I like lots of games that had mixed to negative reception, but if every single review says the game is broken and empty and requires a day one patch because most of the game isn't even on the physical disc that you paid for, that's not necessarily something nostalgia can fix.

[@FusRoDont]

0:56 good to see the i‘m an eagle meme alive and well

[@misterjersey5460]

It's a old meme.

[@Galvatron759]

@@misterjersey5460but it checks out

[@warbossgegguz679]

23:30 IMO and in my experience talking to others, the series started going downhill from Project 8 onwards with the peak being either 4, THUG, or American Wasteland depending on who you ask. Most fans I've talked to seem to PREFER the lack of a timer since as you guys highlighted, the games reward exploration. You can't really explore a level much if after 2 minutes everything resets. That's just my take as someone who played the hell out off all of them though.

[@WolfmanBrown]

I’d say Project 8 felt like iT could have been the beginning of something special, but an annual release schedule killed the chances of anything bigger going forward.

[@xFlareLeon]

I feel the same. THUG2 is probably my absolute favorite due to character creation and a story mode along with the ability to *get off your damn board and walk.*

[@AI-Maginations]

For me THUG 2 was the last good one. But I completely get the points made in the video. That while THUG 1 and 2 were fun games, they certainly strayed a long way from the classic formula and were essentially a different series of games that used the same core mechanic. THPS 3 was the peak imo.

[@thesfdoctor3603]

THAW was my favorite and I loved the exploration there. Now that I finished all of them I can see that the game was becoming stale and without ideas, but in terms of exploration and gameplay THAW still holds up massively THAW, THPS 4 and THUG are easily the best ones. The timer made those games kind of worse for me

[@xFlareLeon]

It boggles my mind that Rerez, who are usually really entertaining, absolutely hated the games from THPS4 onward.

[@misterzygarde6431]

You know if Activision wanted to cash in on Tony Hawk before the license expired, just having a collection of previous games (Though modified to remove the music they couldn’t get the rights to) would’ve been better tbh.

[@nthgth]

I agree except for -couldn't get the rights to- cheaped the F out on licensing

[@MrChaotic4]

This game didn't necessarily kill the franchise as much as it desecrated the corpse.

[@zyzzy-ko4ww]

This "Tony Hawk" game was probably programmed by the Glitch Gremlin.

[@JeffreyPiatt]

They released some skus with only the tutorial level you had to download a patch to play the game.

[@thegamingprozone1941]

​@zyzzy13579 Now, that's a name i haven't heard in a long time.

[@Wnick1996]

Ah, I remember when this dropped back in 2015. This game is the definition of "we're losing the license soon, so let's pump out one more game quick." Quite a sad end to an iconic series. Also, fun fact, Pro Skater I wasn't Tony Hawks' official video game debut. His first involvement with video games was in the unreleased Duelin' Fireman, which was made by members of the Church of The Subgenius

[@victor12135]

Fun fact: Activision shipped the game literally the day before their license for the Tony Hawk name expired. That's why the game is just that rushed.

[@Wnick1996]

@@victor12135 I knew it was released before the license expired but not the fact that it was before the day of. Thanks

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Thank we got the hd version of 1 an 2.

[@bulborb8756]

@@victor12135 I think I also heard from a different video that this game was shipped with only the tutorial on it, and the day 1 patch literally adds in the rest of the game

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@victor12135THPS3+4 REMASTER maybe gonna be released in 2026. 26th September 2026.

[@wadedevinney9681]

You forgot to mention that the board slam was mapped to the same button as the grind, so a lot of times you would try to do a grind to keep a combo going and you would boardslam instead to kill it.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Even Chika Takami also troubled a lot by the annoying slam mechanic that worked as grind in THPS5.

[@TheDMan2003]

Reminds me of the bounce bracelet and lightspeed dash both being mapped to X in Sonic 06.

[@Werty715_25]

Another KZbinr called this move „the Pissy Plumet”.

[@wadedevinney9681]

@@Werty715_25 That would be Caddicarus!

[@BAIGAMING]

14:00 The final level of THUG2, Skatopia, is probably the best real-life location turned into a game level, it's so chaotic and done right. It was visited in the show Viva La Bam and a few other MTV specials I think. Edit: The THUG multiplayer, especially on PC were so amazing. It wasn't really a competitive multiplayer, rather you'd just chat and hang out with people while doing giant combos around the city. We'd all know how to make an infinite skating line and we'd just have fun with each other, we'd get scores in the hundreds of millions just for fun, no terrible progression system just having fun.

[@WolfmanBrown]

THUG was my first online PS2 experience. Those were good times.

[@Rad-Dude63andathird]

Wait, Skatopia's REAL?!

[@BR-jw7pm]

Will we get a Bubsy 3D just bad games someday?

[@songohan3321]

I'm conflicted on this. I would love to see a video on this, but at the same time, I wouldn't wish that game on my worst enemy.

[@chippy6792]

Its been done to death. No

[@BR-jw7pm]

@@chippy6792 well yes but every reviewer has a different way of reviewing things so it’d be cool to see Shane and Adam’s take on it

[@Wnick1996]

I'm hoping so. That game is so bad, it's iconic

[@Ranookswierdstuffs]

P sure this channel already covered it a long time ago, maybe they will revisit but i feel like they are trying to be very pro about their channel

[@frostthenord3942]

Just remember, after THPS 5 failed, we got THPS 1+2 remaster. So it wasnt all bad.

[@ddjsoyenby]

it fell face first in it's own vomit so thps 1 + 2 remaster could skate past it laughing.

[@AnekoGT]

Just took them around 5 another years, but yeah, at least they finally did something good.

[@baalfgames5318]

It's like they didn't want to end the franchise on a sour note.

[@_XYZ__]

Then they shut the servers down without ever mentioning it

[@Peartato59]

Now I just need THPS 3+4 Remake, even though I know it’s never coming

[@NurseValentineSG]

I always very much appreciated the change 4 brought. The 2 minute time limit is cool when you know the stage and you have all the tools to make a cool run, but it is hell for beginners.

[@rcmero]

Like if you placed the time limit toggle in the settings, then you'd be able to cater to both beginners and experts. Experts who know the maps inside and out can use the time limit to it's advantage, but beginners can disable the time limit and freely explore the maps to know the best places to rack up combos.

[@Sarahm2261]

​@@rcmero there was actually a free skate mode in tony hawk that has no timer to explore map and combos

[@PokeMaster22222]

I notice you didn't mention how this game was only made because Activision realised they were about to lose the Tony Hawk license - they bought it years ago, but never did anything with it - so, using what time was left before their contract expired, pushed out THPS 5, just to have _something_ come out of that old deal. The game being made so close to the contract expiring is why it never got many post-launch updates - the devs and publisher legally couldn't work on it anymore.

[@MarvinPowell1]

I actually LIVED through the 90s and 2000s and still can't believe the XTREME SPORTS craze, was a thing. It seems so surreal nowadays, just like dubstep being a thing in 2013. Welcome back from your hiatus, Rerez.

[@rottenapple_]

How the hell does dubstep seem surreal? It's literally just another form of electronic music? People are so weird.

[@lpnp9477]

Extreme sports was amazing. Granted I was under 10 but come on man, it's more surreal that people return to watch traditional sports year after year

[@EssexAggiegrad2011]

Rocket Power

[@MadameSomnambule]

Even Capri-Sun and Cocoa Puffs ads were in on the craze, I remember it. I was in grade school back in the early 2000s after all.

[@jacksonteller3973]

I remember watching Rocket Power, good times.

[@AlastorAltruistGaming]

The beginning mentioning how Tony Hawk is a legend! That’s under-selling it! When I heard he had built a skateboard park to honor the life & mourn the death of Tyre Nichols, it was such an amazing, sweet, generous thing he did. And that ain’t the start of it; Idk what all he’s done to be labeled a legendary, generous man, but I’m certain he’s done so much. It’s a shame some of the games, like this one, soil Hawk’s legacy.

[@Thumpmeharderuwu]

No one cares.

[@emperorfaiz]

@@Thumpmeharderuwu I do

[@Hardrian_Hardrada_Cicero]

​@@Thumpmeharderuwuexcept you. You care ;)

[@thenumberquelve158]

That Morphman callback in the beginning is just wonderful. You already got me laughing and pressing Like a minute into the video. That "Asteroid Belt" level though. How do you make a SPACE level boring? That's an achievement. The game scolding you for going out of bounds is just so in-your-face. No idea why anyone thought that was a good idea. I was never into skateboarding, but because I grew up in southern California, Tony Hawk was literally *THE* first celebrity I ever heard of, and my parents even bought me Tony Hawk merchandise when I was 4 and didn't know a THING about him or skateboarding (and yes, that was in 1999.) Interesting how the quality of the games tapered off as general interest in skateboarding decreased, but then as skateboarding got added to the Olympics in 2020, BOOM. Good game again.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Asteroid Belt level in THPS5 felt completely lifeless. Like THPS5 game itself.

[@Ryusuta]

Seeing the old Neversoft logo after all of these years gave me a wave of nostalgia and a bit of sadness. We miss you!

[@purwantiallan5089]

RIP NEVERSOFT.😢

[@planescaped]

Tony Hawk's Underground and THUG2 are by far the best games in the series and I've only ever heard people sing their praises. Saying they were the beginning of the end is quite the hot take...

[@MountainMemelord]

Not even a minute in, and I'm laughing my ass off at Tony Hawk killing Morphman.

[@soulofflame9999]

"I'm an ea-" "AND I'M A HAWK!"

[@Jasper_Silva]

Being stuck in a handshake loop sounds like a socially awkward person's idea of hell.

[@grindsmore]

THPS5's disastrous launch hit me harder than Jake Brown's slam at X Games 13.

[@paulw858]

Oof. Almost too soon. You just made the cutoff.

[@saintrobert7]

I remember the only time I ever stole something in my life is when the demo disc for Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 came out with the Official Playstation monthly magazine. I didn’t have enough allowance at the time so I just ripped open the package , grabbed the disc and put it under my shirt. I probably played that demo hundreds of times. It was pure heaven .

[@mtutechy10]

It's always a great day when a new JBG is released!

[@kiarastaggs180]

Yes indeed!

[@quentinparhiala9415]

agreed

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

The first THPS on the PSX and Malcolm in the middle was the perfect combo for my 90's teenage years.

[@PhazonEnder]

But Malcolm in the Middle didn't exist during the 90s.

[@planescaped]

@@PhazonEnder It is funny how a lot of early 00's stuff is attributed to the 90's. They had similar vibes.

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

@@PhazonEnder Holy sht it's true!! 😂

[@ericjohnson6634]

D'oh!

[@Davtwan]

“Maybe Activision was at fault.” Ho ho, you two have no idea how much of an understatement that is.

[@DryIhs]

Love the "It's Just Bad" series. Your level of comedy in your reviews adds just the right amount of flavor for an entertaining video every time. I've watch every single one at this point and remember when you started it. My ex is the one thought introduced me to this channel. Never looked back.

[@GmacAttack]

Actually, the series is called "Just Bad Games."

[@muddyboue]

The Berrics wasn't the first level in the Tony Hawk series to be a direct recreation of a real-world skatepark. THPS4 had Kona Skatepark, which is a real-life skatepark in Jacksonville, Florida. If I recall, among the game's bonus unlockables was a mini-documentary about the real-life Kona.

[@harleymitchelly5542]

In no particular order... Burnside Kona FDR by way of Philadelphia FDR outright in Proving Ground Lansdowne Skatopia had Real World elements Skater Island (Rest in Peace) SPoT (Skate Park of Tampa) in both the actual level in 2x and the Tampa level in THUG. That's all off the top of my head, and not including known spots worked into a game. The (San Fran) Streets level is essentially a collection of spots, from the EMB Fountain, Gonz ledge, and Hubba ledges, School II has the Carlsbad stairset in that secret area, Skate Heaven is literally this with several spots, and Hawaii has the Wallows area.

[@muddyboue]

@@harleymitchelly5542 Oh wow. Gonna be real, I didn't know most of these were real places. That's really cool though; it really goes to show how much genuine care & passion went into these games (in spite of the burnout I imagine they experienced later on)

[@harleymitchelly5542]

@@muddyboue Special mention does go to Skater Island. The whole place was bulldozed a while back, so THPS3 and related materials are now the last place to truly enjoy it. There's a lot of history in plenty of these parks, and I just listed outright parks. As I said, a lot of places do actually feature skate spots in the levels proper.

[@MadameSomnambule]

This is making me want to check out THPS1+2 even more, it looks so good! I loved THPS2 so much as a kid, played it on my brother's N64 a lot back in the day.

[@redbomberx354]

Definitely worth it! 1+2 Has gameplay comparable to the Underground games (minus getting of your board, of course) and a crap ton of challenges and unlockables. A great return for the series, and I hope they do remake 3+4.

[@anigamerreviews3136]

​@Tony Hunt wasn't that something that was initially considered before Vicarious Visions got thrown into the cod mine?

[@ThunderDragonRandy]

I highly recommend THPS1+2. It's the best THPS1 & THPS2 remake/remaster. Vicarious Visions, who previously made the portable versions of Tony Hawk games for Game Boy Advance/Nintendo DS, did an amazing job at remaking THPS1 & THPS2, unlike Robomodo with Tony Hawk's Pro Skater HD. But admitting, I did like THPS HD at the time while others hated it but attempting to go back to it after playing THPS1+2, THPS1+2 completely replaces THPS HD for me. I even prefer THPS2x Xbox remake of THPS1&2 over THPS HD but THPS1+2 is the best over the two other remasters/remakes.

[@YungMeech313]

Back in the early 2000's you pop that hard disc in the system ...you see that Neversoft logo show up on screen with the eyeball getting pierced you KNEW you were about to play some good Tony Hawk

[@baalfgames5318]

When going into the other developers that worked on the original Tony Hawk's games, I was REALLY hoping you would have brought up Shaba Games again. It's ironic how they ended up porting (or at least helping with) THPS3 to the PS1 after Razor Freestyle Scooter, but they did a commendable job on it.

[@purwantiallan5089]

I remembered a lot that Shaba Games also ever developed 2 great Mat Hoffmann's PRO BMX games.

[@Offroader210]

Big ups to Vicarious Visions for the THPS 1+2 remake; that game was sick. THPS5, however, makes me sick.

[@Sarik0497]

You've probably heard this a million times by now, but I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago and I've just gotten through the last of your "Bad games" videos last night, and I just want to say thank you for the amazing content. I work a lot of hours where I just sit around, doing nothing, so having your videos to watch in the meantime/background has made my work much more fun. Keep being amazing!

[@gracekim25]

Welcome to the family 😊

[@Sarik0497]

@@gracekim25 Thank you! =)

[@beautyforashes2022]

It's so funny how the avatar just goes completely limp, like he just experienced a rapid onset coma while falling.

[@MrMegaManFan]

It’s always a good day to be a patron when a new “Just Bad Games” drops. Thanks Shane!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Agree. Seems like bad games deserved praise for that.

[@josephkeen7224]

No joke, when you guys said they added generic game modes I jokingly thought “imagine if they added deathmatch into this game”, then I heard you guys say that’s actually in the game. If someone jokingly guesses your feature and is right then there’s definitely a problem.

[@jacobdesioreviews]

I get so excited everytime a new “Just Bad Games” comes out. It’s by far one of the best things on KZbin. Thanks rerez

[@tylerrusnak7736]

I'm so glad to see this! I was in a bad car accident yesterday with a car I care about alot. I'm glad that this can cheer me up.

[@ddjsoyenby]

hope you're doing fine and this came at the right time :D

[@jacksonteller3973]

I know the feeling, I got rear-ended once, luckily I was uninjured but my car was totaled and I had to get a ride home and once I got home I watched an episode of Jimquisition to cheer me up, I told Jim about that on AskFM and they actually responded and were pretty sympathetic mentioning they'd been in a few accidents themselves.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

Hope your OK, but I also get attached to cars, so I'd be real sad too if my car got smashed.

[@W0lfenstrike]

To be fair, Vicarious Visions has always worked on the THPS games alongside Neversoft, they were the ones responsible for making some impressive portable ports of the games, along with Crash Bandicoot on GBA and would you look at that, they ALSO have a fantastic remake of the orange marsupial! It's a damn shame nowadays they were absorbed by Blizzard though...

[@_Twink]

Apparently they were in the works on THPS 3+4 until the merger axed the plans.

[@Custer_X_Of_The_DAU]

​​@@_Twink was so upset when I heard those news. That was when I was gave up on Activision Blizzard. I'm glad they are doing terrible now because think of the money they could have made.

[@lampovyurge]

THPS 4 & THUG 2 are the absolute best of the series for me, pure masterworks

[@shadowleon659]

Wow! Tony Hawk was a once great franchise that Activision completely ruined.

[@Kevin-zd5bi]

Some of the older games had online modes with the fireball death match. It was a quirky afterthought, but fun. I remember you could take advantage of a glitch and grind infinitely on top of a fire hydrant and fire fireballs constantly.

[@biscuitboi9478]

I was in college when this game came out. I was swamped with schoolwork, working 2 jobs. Not a lot of free time to play games anymore. But I walked by the GameStop near campus and saw a new THPS released! I ran in and bought the game without a thought. I grew up on the THPS series. I skipped my next class I had coming up, ran back to my dorm and started playing. I was back at that GameStop an hour later for a refund. I was crushed. One of the worst gaming experiences I’ve had.

[@slothsong080]

Funny enough, it's not the first time that "Deathmatch" mode has appeared in the series. I believe it used to be called "Firefight" and functioned in a similar way, if not the same. Thought when I played it with other people, it was more something to do in between games of horse and trick attack.

[@calemr]

Something that didn't get said about the combos that's a Huge part of the appeal is that it's a great risk VS reward system. As your combo goes up, it becomes harder to hold manuals or grinds, making it harder to maintain your combo. Every extra trick earns you more points, while making you more likely to bail, earning you Nothing. It's a constant gamble, and personal skill judgement, "Can I hold a grind just a Little longer to hit that angle, get air, and get one more trick? Or should I bank what I've got?" It creates a consistent rise and fall of tension, entirely driven by your own gameplay, and at your own pace. The difficulty rises as You decide to push yourself further. And this makes even the earliest levels still fun. THPS1 tracked each skater's progress separately, but the combo system means that your First runs of Warehouse will be Very different to your second runs when you try a different character. It's good. I'm saying that it's good.

[@ImpmanPDX]

One of the earlier Tony Hawk games had "Skate Street" which is based off a skate park in my hometown of Ventura. They took the overall general layout of the park, and then added a bunch of verticality and extra features to take it to the next level.

[@poisonempress]

glad to see this series back, you and a few other youtubers I like dropped new content today so today's been hella cool. Awesome episode guys, sad to see a legacy like pro skater go to the dumpster fire

[@InsanityPrevails]

I really wish you guys could upload more often.. I know it's difficult and it takes a lot of time to do, but your videos are always so, so appreciated. ;w;

[@MrCed122]

No matter what people say, my favorite one is still American Wasteland, I really liked the mid-00s style, the open-world, the BMX, the stupid missions, etc. Even Project 8 and Proving Ground, while pretty flawed, were still really fun experiences to me. Even at their worst, the Neversoft games were at least decent, while the Robomodo era was just a trainwreck from beggining to end and to this day, I still can't comprehend how they were able to make more than one game. Even the least offensive, Tony Hawk Pro Skater HD, isn't even close to the quality of the worst the Neversorft era offered (which is probably Proving Ground). Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5 was a cash grab from the beginning and had no hope of being even mediocre, they just rushed the development to release it before losing the license (I think it was released the exact last day they could legally).

[@MechMK1]

The game genuinely feels like an internal "test build", where they'd show rough concepts for levels and obvious placeholder assets. It feels like this game was 30% through the development cycle when someone said "We ran out of money! Ship it!"

[@999haunted]

Here's something that you guys probably didn't know when talking about Tony Hawk clones. Disney's Extreme Skate Adventure was developed by the once legendary Toys For Bob and they utilized the same game engine as Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4. In fact they got permission from both NeverSoft and Activision to use the engine, and even had some of the original developers in NeverSoft to help further develop the game. So that kinda makes Disney's Extreme Skate Adventure both a THPS clone and a spin off

[@jakeproven256]

Honestly, the fact that Activision released something that's not finished should be a surprise to no one.

[@tylerironside8109]

You guys have the most infectious energy that my life's been missing. Love it!

[@MrGlenbw]

35:35 (Cue finger-tenting Bobby Kotick grinning while saying "EXCELLENT"! )

[@RudeNippah]

I've got a few major things I want to bring up here. I don't like how it's being framed as if THPS4 and THUG are some kind of gradual decline, when THUG2 is perhaps the tightest and most responsive-controlling skateboarding game ever conceived of. The combos that you can pull of in THUG2 are absolutely legendary, and the maps are very iconic and very well designed. The ability to get off your board gives you a way to manually level yourself and redirect your grinds, which adds so, SO much depth to the way you skate, as an experienced player, you do NOT want to be deprived of the ability to walk, the utility it adds to your combos is absolutely insane, the way that you can get off your board mid-air and switch directions, level yourself to string an airborne QP combo into a grind OR force a grind on a QP into an acid drop to string that into a revert+manual, or manually transfer to an elevated rail, it is so, so good and so responsive, absolutely 10/10 mechanic. The tony hawk series has a VERY definitive drop-off point, and that drop-off point is Project 8. Project 8 was their attempt to directly compete with the 'realism' of Skate, AND their first attempt at a simultaneous multiplatform HD release, and the result was a shallow mess of a game. I also want to point out the that in spite of everything wrong with THPS5, the inclusion of Firefight is NOT one of them. Firefight has been a staple multiplayer gamemode since Underground, and it wouldn't be multiplayer Tony Hawk without it's inclusion, that along with Graffiti, Trick Attack, and King of the Hill.

[@TweezyJay]

Playing tony hawks pro skater 2,3 and underground was my childhood. I am so sad to see 5 on the list but as I’ve never played it this should be an interesting video, I’m getting the popcorn!🍿🥤

[@TweezyJay]

As always you guys do not disappoint! Glad I never tarnished my view of tony hawk games by playing that entry.

[@jaketaller8567]

I remember when Caddicarus covered this game on his Skateboarding Games video. Long story short, he hated it.

[@AlastorAltruistGaming]

No surprise he’d hate it; if everything Rerez would later describe in this video weren’t enough, how about the massive update file to the game? Because what’s more fun than waiting for a patch bigger than my house to download, right?

[@Athenor]

I dumped so much time into THPS 2 on the Game Boy Advance. It was an incredible translation of the game, and showed that the 2 minute score attack was just perfect for portable play. It's also where I became in awe of Vicarious Visions' ability. ... Oh hey, and look who worked on THPS 1+2!

[@slappybagOG]

I had THUG on GBA... It was an experience for sure haha

[@Dynaman21]

0:57 - He’s also internet famous for his misadventures where no one believes the guy is actually Tony Hawk. 2 on the Dreamcast was my jam. I still associate half those skate moves with Guerrilla Radio.

[@mcporkrhymez4433]

I Will Never Forget Seeing Tony Hawk Hit The 900. It Is Magic.

[@megamanxs1984]

Missed you guys SO much! Love your videos.

[@SniperGothsRave]

The "deathmatch" was also on American Wasteland from what i remember, and the bigger your combo, the bigger the fireball was, it was quite fun lmao

[@brandonroy6981]

I love these! Thank you so much. I have a lot going on and the world is a miss but this brings me laughter. These are always great!!!

[@demontamerbf18]

I have never played a Tony Hawk game but even I felt insulted by the companies that thought it was fine to release a game in such a terrible state, and even after patching it it looks empty and boring, I'm sorry for what you went through, Tony Hawk games' fans.

[@kuramacon]

"I'm an Eagle!"

[@xanderac]

I kind of wish that the weird lack of character and park creators was mentioned as it had become a staple of the series. I remember you couldn't make your own character in 5 but you could customize any of the skaters to look different, and the guest characters they had were basically implemented there, which were Lil Wayne, Tyler the Creator and the main character from Kings Quest

[@ninthaeon8106]

I had to stop 1:00 in... "I'm an eag...ah!" got me too hard... Haha!

[@rustkitty]

The section in MGS2 was actually a reskin of the then-upcoming skateboarding game creatively titled Evolution Skateboarding. Kind of a cross-promotion thing.

[@matthewmincey8822]

Funny I've been binging Just Bad Games for the past few days and was hoping for a new episode huzzah! Here's hoping you guys have plenty more to cover because you gents are hilarious.

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

Seeing a new one of these pop up in the notifications is like discovering a piece of entertaining treasure, just seeing the REREZ logo in my notifications is always something that makes me smile. Genuinely hoping this series can continue for many many years to come. 😄👍

[@Dopamine9481]

Yooo was patiently waiting for a new entry in this series! It's my fav on KZbin! Thank you for these videos.🎉🙌🏾

[@kaydwessie296]

Man, there are moments. I know it's not fun but there are moments there where there's a glimpse of the good game it wanted to be

[@Robinjhoe1]

Its like making a game called "skate or die" without the dying part

[@TheSuperSaiyan4Gamer]

I’ve been watching Just Bad Games for quite some time now and I look forward to every episode! Normally, I hate any kind of videos with two narrators, because it always just seems like two people just talking amongst themselves. However, this series with Shane and Adam is an exception for me. They actually talk to the viewer, rather than just talking amongst themselves and bounce off of each other really well. They’re also quite hilarious! 🤣

[@JustStayingGroovy]

At school in the cafeteria back in 97 or so, there was a Got Milk poster with Tony Hawk on it. That was how I knew him.

[@gracekim25]

Yay! Skate Thursday! You have brought life to my day. Thank you 😊

[@neonbarnowl]

First time watching anything from this channel. It's oddly nostalgic, reminds me of the shows that would play after the Saturday morning cartoons ended 😅

[@TheCamSays]

13:24 The guys go on a tangent about the Berrics level being based upon a real park in LA. This isn’t the first time that the series replicated a real park for a level. The competition levels in 1 and 2 do this. The Chicago and Burnside parks in 1, the Marseille, France, SkateStreet and Bullring levels in 2 all were based upon real parks. Then again, those were later in the game and not the very first level in the game compared to the original Warehouse, Hangar, Foundry from 3, College from 4 and future first levels.

[@fikritarhan8380]

7:06 I love how the Earth explodes MK3 style when internet cable is disconnected from Xbox One.

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

I'm just going to watch this to see how you were able to get this whole game running given it almost exclusively required online access.

[@paulw858]

A couple things: I play this game on my Xbox One from time to time, and I've never had an issue with the game kicking me out or disallowing me to play because of an internet connection. If you go into the game and then pick a level from level select. you can start it in Private Match (press Y instead of A) and that lets you play... I am playing off a digital copy, though, but I don't see how that would make a difference. In fact I just did it right now, so... ? Another thing: you can toggle the "Slam" mechanic in a way. If you go into the options, you can set it to requiring two presses to activate instead of 1. This helps a lot with making it feel like a more natural Tony Hawk game. But the Slam is necessary for some goals if you want to do them efficiently. The footage where you kept falling, you can tell that most of that was you trying to fail. You were doing more tricks than were able to be completed at that height. The glitches are bad, but they aren't as constant as you make them sound. There are plenty of "things" in the levels. I believe it's the art design that's to blame for the feeling of emptiness. The lack of detail on objects and the overall "bland and doughy" look does a horrible job of making the world feel right. I guarantee if places like Venice Beach and Warehouse were in this game, but done in this lazy aesthetic with no other changes, they would feel right at home with the blandness. The biggest issue with the levels is that they lack any flow or logic, unlike the levels of old Tony Hawk games. The second biggest problem, as you mentioned, is the lack of secret areas, let alone the lack of meaningful secret areas. You could tell that the people that made this game had no idea what made a good level. But as far as that empty feeling, I think that's down to the really awful art style. The idea of the developers paying homage "to an actual skate space" is something that's been going on since the original game. It's just that usually the games reference bits and pieces from real life spots as opposed to entire levels. School II in THPS2, for instance, has the Carlsbad Gap in the secret area. That's a really well-known skate spot. The "Leap of Faith" area and rail is a direct copy of the real life spot, too... there are countless references to real skate spots and places in pretty much all the Neversoft games. It's quite the rabbit hole. So The Berrics being features is nothing special. The one exception to this "bits and pieces" thing is that I think a good portion of the competition levels are actual skate parks in real life. Chicago and Burnside from the first game are 100% real, for instance. So again, The Berrics? Nothing new. In my opinion, the powerups were an interesting idea, but they were executed very poorly. It is true that Neversoft had a lot of stumbles, especially in the post THUG world. But their failures pale in comparison to the ones Robomodo committed. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater HD is not a total reworking of the first two games. It has only 7 levels out of the 19 available in THPS1 and THPS2 combined. Plus 3 levels from Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3. And the only way to get a Revert ability, as far as I know, is to have that THPS3 DLC. THPS HD is an atrocity, and I could go on forever about all the horrible mistakes it made. I find it more offensive to the franchise than THPS5 even though I would argue that THPS5 is objectively the worse game. Okay I have gotten to the point in the video where you mention you've been playing the unpatched version up to this point, but my points all still stand. The option to make the Slam require two button presses was added in an update... and I think that's about all that you missed out on from the stuff I mentioned. I just tried my copy again, and I was able to get into my own solo game. I'm really not sure what you guys are doing wrong, or if me having the digital version really is the difference? I just don't see that as a possibility, but maybe. Okay. Anyways. The main reason for posting this was to say that you are definitely able to play "offline" when you're still online. And the Slam can be adjusted. And I don't mean to sound like I'm defending this game. It's awful. But I wanted to clear a few things up so it's more fair, that's all.

[@thesfdoctor3603]

That was a good read, gg

[@Drain-Life-Archive]

Knew about this one for a while now, glad you guys covered it. It was rushed out before the license expired to be a quick cash grab. It never should have been made. Since they had to make the disc before losing the license, they resorted to a giant patch to try to "finish" the game. It didn't work. Even with the patch, it was still a trash game from a trash developer that would finally go out business a year later (good riddance).

[@Propanesucka]

Ah, yes. Skateboarding, an activity associated with youthful rebellion. Video games, a media format known for encouraging exploration beyond predetermined boundaries. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5: "STAY WITHIN THE LINES"

[@brianhoward7277]

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5? More like *Anthony Eagle's Amateur Skater Cinco*

[@zyzzy-ko4ww]

Cinco or Sinko?

[@YodaSan2]

THPS 4 and Underground in my opinion are still two of the greats of the franchise. Yes they tried newer things and people hate change. There is still that Tony Hawk feel throughout and I think everyone should give them an honest shake. You guys are great but I respectfully disagree with you on those. Just Bad Games is one of my favorite comfort series to continuously go back to. Thanks guys.

[@KhorneProphet]

Thank you I needed this today

[@wiredcoffee9347]

Your humor in these videos is great.

[@VulpesHilarianus]

One thing I don't think you guys realized (or just neglected to mention) is that despite the day one patch being a download for the other 70% of the game game to actually finish building it... It's not actually finished, because you're only downloading 60% instead of 70%. The reason being, you're still missing other base game content that's in the comments in the code, but was never actually sent out because the game was rushed to disc pressing two weeks before it shipped, and abandoned by Robomodo the week after it shipped.

[@gaminggoof1542]

I fucking hate games you can’t play anymore just cause online only

[@brandonwithnell612]

i remember that deathmatch fireball thing was in underground as well with its local multiplayer modes, although underground did it much better simply by having larger more varied maps with hidden areas making chasing eachother down more fun, there was another really fun ode where you highlight pllaces y preforming tricks on them and whoever had the most places highlighted by the end wins, kind of like splatoon on skateboards

[@NealCamerlengo]

I've been waiting for this episode after I rewatched your Razor Freestyle Scooter episode.