Segmentology The Basics

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[@tomferrier5811]

9 yr old video and you are still helping newbies like myself Thank You Mr. Bennett

[@billswink6711]

I am a novice and your videos really helped me understand the basics of segmented rings. Thank you for the downloads page. I will build all.

[@seapilot4042]

Jerry. Thank you. I found your video when I needed it most. This information is priceless, Thanks again.

[@Abi21mac]

I’m starting to the segmenting rings. I have never seen someone to explain this so clear than you. Thanks very much sir. The only thing is I can’t afford the cost of the wedges and I think those are the key of all. Thanks again 👍👍👍👍👍

[@JerryBennettArt]

Angel, you can use a large 30 degree triangle to make a 12 segment ring. The 60 degree end will do a 6. A large 45 degree triangle will make an 8 segment ring. You do not have to buy anything to get started. Jerry

[@robsandstrom9854]

Just getting into segmented turning. Very helpful in understanding what I am getting ready to start.

[@eWood_q8]

I just made my own wedgie jig and tested it, excellent result! thank you Jerry!

[@woodstoney]

Great segment tool for woodturners. Thanks for sharing! Nice guitar picking too!! ;)

[@bombjack78]

Thank you for the adjustable saw track guide idea! Brilliant!

[@carlalley4684]

I made a wedgie sled while I was waiting for my wedgies that came today(a day earlier than I expected)and within an hour I had 6 perfect rings on my bench drying.....Thank You Sir,You have made a happy camper outta me!!!!!

[@alfredoleiser]

thnk you very much for this grat video. for a begginer like me it is very important, now i hope i will try segmented bowls. you are a very good teacher. thank's again. a.leiser, israel

[@traog2445]

A big advantage I can see to the double fence sled is that all cuts are made referencing the same edge of the stock eliminating error that comes from the stock not being perfectly parallel. I've ordered a set of wedgies, looking forward to cutting out the more tedious aspects of segmenting.

[@mick1gallagher]

You don't need any of these expensive wedges a simple cheap digital protractor will give the same result

[@ArcticFlies56]

Jerry, I have to you that your video helped me to make my first segmented bowl. The sled, guide and zero clearance base plate wasn't so bad to put together. I couldn't wait to cut some wood on the sled and put the ring together. Without any idea of what I was doing, I figured out how to make the rings a little larger as you go and ended up with a nice segmented bowl consisting of 7 rings. Now I'm a fan! Thank you. Best regards, Richard.....

[@boycegoates7514]

If you’re not Richard Katzman 8

[@hmatyas1]

This is a well done and informative presentation. Thank you for doing this.

[@user-dp6cc7km5j]

That's great! Very useful tutorial! Especially thanks for soundtrack!

[@michaelbelleisle4196]

Very good video. I don't do a lot of segment turning but you have done the R&D with regards to making the wedge I may just order your set of wedges. Again great lesson TY.

[@tomhubbard7053]

Just finished my Wedgie Sled last night. The only triangle I had was my speed square, so I grabbed it and set my sled to 45°. So nine cuts later, I had eight segments that I quickly touched up on the belt sander, that fit together perfectly! I have never had anything work as well without any fiddling. This is THE way to cut segments!

[@boycegoates7514]

Tom Hubbard 9l,;

[@boycegoates7514]

Tom Hubbard 09

[@davidbuchan2224]

Yoda... thank you so much for this and your calm instruction - brilliant.

[@bushmaster2936]

Very well made video and the music was excellent : )

[@RPeterson-vr1rr]

Good video. I have the same Sears contractor table saw. I didn't think I'd ever see one again.

[@timboh.533]

You make the segments video and add your own music, too? You're a pretty talented fellow! I've been playing guitar for 50 years, but only just started turning a couple days ago, there's a lot to learn. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@stringmanipulator]

Wow .. I am gonna buy one of those .. simply genius !!!

[@DeeKrimSansMedia]

That is one great video by a very good human being. Thanks

[@flurng]

Thank you, Jerry, for sharing your ingenious design with fellow wood workers! I can't wait to build a wedgie sled of my own & try it out! P.S.> Beautiful music! You should consider recording music professionally - ah, but then, I suppose you'd have no time for turning!

[@ErikAnderson1]

Great idea! Great video!

[@sergiohebling6238]

Dear, Jerry. I'm wrinting from Brazil. It was a big plesure to see tour explanation, your calm Voice and calm way to work. I've never make any segmented work. Bit i'l try! wen i finish my very first work i'l let you know. A big hug from Brazil. Sergio Hebling.

[@SkipEvansx]

Neat sled. I sometime use strips wider( especially at the bottom of a bowl) than the interior of the fences. Are there any problems creating the sled with the fences further apart?

[@violetkemp6054]

Brilliant and awe inspiring.

[@woodfood1]

Hi Jerry this is amazing great job ,is it possible to get the plans to download here thanks Joey

[@sheehyhouse7678]

thanks jerry great video thanks for sharing where can i buy the wedgie mike from irl

[@kfelderhoff]

Great Video. Thank you

[@denniskneller7611]

Can this sled be used to cut segments on a bandsaw….great instructions for building a sled

[@lincolnpalmer7174]

Thanks, Jerry!

[@jacksawyer3626]

Nice work Jerry. Question, how wide is the board you're using in this video?

[@rogerk9050]

Thnx for your video.

[@bluestarindustrialarts7712]

Thanks Jerry. Great video, great idea. I made one of these sized for use on my 14" BANDSAW. Result: perfect segments. I posted a vid on my channel.

[@JerryBennettArt]

+Blue Star Industrial Arts I enjoyed your video William, Great job with a bandsaw! Jerry

[@beaustjohn2342]

hey jerry, that is amazing. it looks like it makes segmenting very easy. do you have videos on how to make that zero clearance insert for these methods? thanks beau

[@JerryBennettArt]

Go to www.segeasy.com There are many tutorials including making the Zero clearance strip.

[@jackmarashlian2463]

Dear Jerry Same as every one I have thoroughly enjoyed your video and the music, I have also played guitar for 30 years but I cannot anymore as I have a CLICK IN MY LEFT HAND FINGERS. Anyhow I wanted to say that if others are confused with the angle problem is that the triangle we are looking at is isosceles TRIANGLE NOT equilateral triangle ( 2 sides are equal length and pick is in the center forming 2 of 90degree angles, therefore: It is correct that the 360/16=22.5 degrees but we are interested in the total in-closed angels of the triangle which is 180 degrees - 22.5 = 157.5 degrees divided by 2 = 78.75 degrees, for only one side. Sorry Jerry I did not mean to be rude and give a lecture, I felt it might help others if they get confused with equilateral triangle specially if they try to make there own wedges. Thank you very very much for your great video. By for know from OZ

[@boycegoates7514]

Jack Marashlian 6

[@givikvachantiradze8256]

Very nice video!

[@thebears8955]

Hi Jerry, just made the wedgie sled yesterday. Can you tell me if there is any formula or method for determining the diameter of a segmented ring before you cut the segments?

[@EdsonOseas]

Sensacional!! :-)

[@daveshutt8672]

Hi, good video and have learned a lot, but one thing I still can't work out is how you want a 12 segment disk at 100mm outer edge and say 50mm inner circle how to measure it. If you can help it would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Dave.

[@danlawlor1244]

Hello. I have watched your videos on how to make segments and I have started making rings but I can't seem to find a video showing exactly how to glue the segments using a rubber band or hose clamps. By the time I get to the last few segments the glue on the first few is already starting to set and have a mess of glue all over the work surface. Do you have, or do you know of anyone who has a video showing the process and method of actually gluing the segments together and using a rubber band or hose clamp to hold them while they dry?

[@glenglazier3691]

How do you determine the length of each segment to make a certain size ring?

[@fmmatty]

Awesome video!! Very informative!!! Loved the music; did you write it?

[@boycegoates7514]

Matthew Futral m

[@CraigLandschoot]

Jerry, I have something strange happening when I'm cutting extremely skewed wedges. Each piece will alternate in its overall width if I place them up on a flat surface on their end grain. I'm using a stop set parallel to the saw blade. One side of the skewed wedge is set to near 90 degrees and the other is the compliment that gets me a skewed wedge with 22.5 degrees (for a 16 segment ring) between the cuts. Everything is nice and tight in the setup. However, the results are that every piece alternates in its overall width as if the stop is moving. To the best of my determination, the angles are so different from the primary and secondary fences on the sled that they don't hit the stop at the same distance, and I don't get nice even segments, I end up with segments that are two different widths, which creates an issue when alternating the pieces to cause any error that may be caused by my table not being perfectly 90 degrees to the sawblade. I feel that once I tackle this, I can move on to cutting more advanced segments. I think I'm looking at having to have two saw stops in this situation. Thank you for the time and effort you have taken to produce these videos. -Craig

[@JerryBennettArt]

Hi Craig, when you skew the fences, the distance is different. I use a flat top screw in the stop and adjust it to compensate. A little crude but it works.

[@Landschootc]

Thanks Jerry. You are right. After I rested my brain for a few days I went back to the shop and figured it out. I used a popsicle stick hot glued to a portion of the stop. The flat head screw trick is brilliant. That’s the adjustable solution. Thanks for everything!!

[@plooms1]

jerry I ordered the wedges but I am confused about one thing where to set the quick stop. I cant find and videos on where to set it at ?? Help if you can please

[@moonwoodworks4607]

Again, fantastic 👏presentation my friend. However, this time you show using a stop block but not how to determine the length of each segment. Can you elaborate on that plz? Watching next video in series next.

[@gary313]

I tried your emal but it didn't work

[@rebamcfarland48]

How were the adjustment screws done?

[@douggroves1812]

Why lift the board each time and move it to the front side of each fence? Can't you use the front side of the back fence and then just slide it forward to the back side of the front fence?

[@GOLDSMITHEXILE]

I like this idea, very neat! Am I right in thinking its critical that the fence rails on the wedgie type sled are machined perfectly parallel before they are assembled onto the sled base, otherwise you are wasting your time, seeing as the wedge angle template is set on the inside of the 2 rails, but you make one of the cuts on the outside of one of the fence rails? Thanks, Jonathan

[@AllBlacksRWC2011]

I am also interested in this question, Jerry. You used the 'wedgie' to set the angle perfectly between the lower edge on the upper rail and the upper edge on the lower rail (if you see what I mean), but then you took the stock out of that gap and used the upper edge of the upper rail as your reference for the second cut. Wouldn't you have to be very confident that the upper rail is perfectly parallel, as GOLDSMITHEXILE 2016 mentions? Surely it would be better to keep the stock between the two rails? BTW, I ask this as a complete 'pre-amateur' who is just thinking about getting in to woodwork (particularly turning), so I suspect there may be something I'm not grasping here. Now I'll carry on watching the next videos in the series. I enjoyed this one very much, thanks. Cheers.

[@JerryBennettArt]

The upper fence must be parallel, not really a problem. It is not safe to use the bottom of the upper fence. The table saw is not your friend. It will bite you.

[@AllBlacksRWC2011]

Of course. That hadn't crossed my mind. Thank you.

[@marykedykhuizen6902]

Could you please give some instructions for the stop block, thankyou for the videos, they are very easy to follow

[@JerryBennettArt]

Go to www.segeasy.com

[@sethwarner2540]

Why your blade so high?

[@jeffdeluca1153]

Why doesn't it matter if the fences on the wedgie sled aren't 90 degrees to the sled? Doesn't that change the angles? Oops just got to my answer in the video. Thx

[@skif16xlten]

Jerry, can I use the lower fence on the Wedgie Sled alone if I align the Wedgie square to the blade and "flip" my board on each cut? It seems to work OK, but am I just lucky or is geometry on my side? "SKI" Kowalski

[@JerryBennettArt]

The video shows me doing that. It will always be more accurate when you use both fences.

[@MrRules100]

Jerry, I couldn't help but notice that your sled sits on the right side of the blade and the sled that Dave makes sits on the left side of the blade. Does it make a difference or is it just contingent on the location of the miter slots on the table saw? Stu

[@ernieangle2553]

Jerry, Where can I buy a wedgie sled along with the wedges,?

[@braytonbailey3782]

what is the maximum segment length one can make with the wedgie sled? ie what if I want to make a 16 inch diameter ring with 12 segments. the chart calls for a segment length of 0.2679 x 16= 4.2864 inches. the saw stop won't allow anything longer than around 2.75 inches. I was going to make another stop that would allow that extra length.

[@JerryBennettArt]

Brayton, the great thing about the Wedgie sled is the flexibility. Simply change or modify it to accommodate the segment size you need. The concept works no matter the scale.

[@jjsinacola]

Jerry, I assume that if I have a left tilt saw blade that I would use the right track, correct?

[@JerryBennettArt]

+Jim S yep

[@myzer2021]

I am a canadian wood worker trying to buy a wedgie where do I go ?

[@ralphbenson9682]

Jerry, love your videos and the great music. I've been trying to send you a private email but the address from your website rejects email saying the Inbox is full.

[@JerryBennettArt]

Thanks,I fixed it

[@williamcastleberry7338]

Nice sled. Great picking. What kind of guitar do you play

[@JerryBennettArt]

Thanks William, I have several. Which one I use is based on the music. Most of the time I play the Gretsch.

[@williamcastleberry7338]

Hello Jerry, I have several myself and I love playing my Gretsch. I also love my Eppi and Tele. I really enjoy your music. I play more rockabilly style myself

[@DisrespectfulRob]

"Segments cleaned up off camera" What does cleaning up entail, and is it really necessary? I would assume this refers to sanding the cut edges, which seems a tad tedious and prone to altering the necessary pricise angles. I would expect to have perfectly glue-able cuts right off the blade on my saw, am I missing something here? Thanks.

[@JerryBennettArt]

Good question Robbie, It is just getting rid of the hair and splinters that can contaminate the segment joint. I simply use a small piece of sandpaper by hand. You do not want to do anything that would compromise the angle.

[@DisrespectfulRob]

Ah, ok. Thanks for the reply Jerry. Your videos are great, and together with your wedgie sled are serving as my instruction/introduction to lathe woodworking. Thanks again.

[@AsWoodTurns]

How about a shield over the saw blade mounted similarly to the depth stop? Alan Stratton

[@Abi21mac]

As Wood Turns hey Alan. I love your videos too great work thanks

[@benpress8884]

Why?

[@atstupenas]

You are pathetic

[@shanedurham894]

Mr. Bennett, Can you please provide a link to where I can purchase the Wedgie?

[@JerryBennettArt]

Thank you for your inquiry --- you can go to segeasy.com Jerry

[@tomsaltus3602]

how do you know where to set the stop block for the length of each segment

[@tomsaltus3602]

never mind i get it it dosnt matter only verys ring size

[@chartle1]

What exactly is involved in cleaning them up? I have seen jigs for sanders to precisely sand the wedges.

[@JerryBennettArt]

+Cliff Hartle You only want to knock the fuzzies off. I do it by hand with a simple Ice cream stick with sandpaper glued to it. It takes no time at all. Sanding with power will change the angle of the segment and is overkill. Jerry

[@chartle1]

Jerry Bennett OK thanks now about to watch Beyond the Basics

[@marykedykhuizen6902]

At what measurement do you put the stop block?

[@lilleeclark6028]

Wondering the same thing. The whole emphasis is on the sled and the stop seems to be just a critical. How do you made a stop block?

[@JerryBennettArt]

You can use software to design vessels and thus the dimensions. Check out woodturner pro

[@thelasermanus]

what happens when a piece of stock is too wide to fit between the two angled guides?

[@JerryBennettArt]

Hi Thomas, you can add another hole in the fence to get more room but you may have to use a spacer to make sure the wedgie fits well in the fences.

[@marykedykhuizen6902]

Can you please explain how you know where to put the stopblock. I cannot get the segments to come to the right diameter

[@JerryBennettArt]

Go to www.segeasy.com -- under "Downloads" there is a .pdf with factors on computing the segment lengths for various ring configurations.

[@jacksawyer3626]

And how do you know what distance to set the stop from the blade?

[@JerryBennettArt]

The best way is to use software. Check out Woodturner Pro.

[@varmit7286]

Does this work as well for an odd number of segments?

[@JerryBennettArt]

+Bruce W Campbell Yes, any number.

[@allenkoop6198]

I like to make wedges that are 9 inches long and 96 pieces to a cercle. How do I make a wedge slead?

[@JerryBennettArt]

Allen, please go to www.segeasy.comThe website has everything.Jerry

[@lilleeclark6028]

I have made my sled and the stop. I have ordered my wedgies, but they have not yet arrived, so maybe they will have instructions regarding where to set the stop and how to get he ring diameter to what I want. Perfect circles mean nothing if I cannot make them the diameter I need and/or control the aperture of the ring, and I feel it has something to do with the stop. Please help, anyone!

[@JerryBennettArt]

You vary the length of segment to vary the diameter of a ring. There are several tutorials on the www.segeasy.com website. You can contact me directly through the website for assistance.

[@intrepidus3378]

I'm just here for the music.

[@gilgrace1915]

With the spacing of the two fences doesn't that limit the width of the stock to just under 2"? What to do if you need say 4" + width to make solid discs.?

[@JerryBennettArt]

+Gil Grace Easy, simply make the sled with the fences further apart.

[@gilgrace1915]

+Jerry Bennett Yes, I figured that out right after I posted my comment. I should have waited a few minutes for the solution to come to me. Hind sight is 20/20 as they say.

[@flurng]

+Gil Grace Alternatively, Gil, you might try using a single-fence sled, as is the first sled Jerry demonstrated.

[@gilgrace1915]

I tried that first. I need more accuracy. If you set the two fences farther apart you can still use a wedgie or triangle to set the angle. If the triangle is too small you might need a spacer or two to make it work. As long as the spacers have parallel sides the fence angle will be the same.

[@JMEJIZU]

Hello, Mr. Bennet, I could explain how you graduate each segment, I mean, as it does for a larger ring, I'm from Chile, excuse my translation. Thank you.

[@JerryBennettArt]

Hi Jaime, You simply vary the length of the segment for different ring diameters.

[@JMEJIZU]

Thanks friend for your reply

[@harrydudley3840]

where can i buy wedgie for segments

[@JerryBennettArt]

www.segeasy.com

[@darwinbenedict2874]

Where to buy the wedgies?

[@JerryBennettArt]

www.segeasy.com

[@mariesantana5033]

Hi Jerry, I have been watching your videos and am very excited. I am new to turning and really love the idea of segments. I have an idea that I am playing with but have no clue how to get it going. Can I ask for your input? If you can send me an email address I can send you a picture. Thanks Jerry.

[@JerryBennettArt]

Thank you, go to www.segeasy.com

[@ronald44181000]

I'm just getting ready to make my Wedgie-Sled and the only thing I can't get my head around is your accurate reference for a 78.75 Degree segment.. I don't know what I'm missing, but 360 divided by 16 = 22.5. What am I missing??????????

[@JerryBennettArt]

Ronald Lambier Ronald, the triangle is an equilateral triangle. The pointy end is 22.5 degrees but for the conventional sled you need the other end as in the video.The angles at the base of the triangle is 78.75 degrees. The Wedgie sled uses the 22.5 degree end.

[@daviddrum6700]

+Jerry Bennett So really, if you divide 360 by the number of desired pieces, you will get the angle needed for using the Wedgie sled, correct?

[@JerryBennettArt]

+David Drum That is correct.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

@@JerryBennettArt if you have the base angles at 78.5 degrees and the "pointy end" is 22.5, then your triangle is not equilateral! In an equirateral triangle, all degress are 60.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

You divide 360 degrees by your number of segments, in your case 16, which gives you the angle of 22.5 degrees. But there is an angle on BOTH sides so you divide by two = 11.25. 22.5 would apply if you had half of 16 = 8. 360 ÷ 8 = 45 ÷ 2 (because there us an angle on 2 sides ) = 22.5 degrees for 8 segments.

[@victorstalick5528]

He doesn't explain the adjustments for the blade / track misalignment.

[@dadatschool]

+Victor Stalick Right, it’s not covered in the video because that’s a general set-up chore for your saw when you get it or move it. Jerry’s sled does not care if the blade is exactly parallel since only the leading edge of the blade is in contact with the segments; even if the blade is slightly misaligned, it will still cut accurate segments. This is not true if you are using the fence or may second cut the stock if you are pushing the stock past the trailing portion of the blade.

[@flurng]

+Victor Stalick In fact, he did mention that problem, stating that it really doesn't matter - regardless how misaligned the blade may be ( within reason, of course), the sled is going to follow the guide track. So long as you keep your work piece tight to the fence and don't let it slide left or right, you will get the correct angle.Admittedly, the cut may not be perfectly vertical, but he addresses that issue as well - if you notice, he marks the top of his stock, and then alternates the segments; top-up, bottom-up, etc., thus cancelling out any vertical alignment errors.

[@jameskoehn4331]

Having that blade above your wood thickness is a bad idea. NEVER BRING YOUR BLADE ANY FURTHER THAN THE THICKNESS OF YOUR WORK PIECE... Other than that great video...

[@JerryBennettArt]

Actually having the blade all the way up is purposeful. Cutting small segments with the blade down makes for very fast projectiles. Also a lowered blade combined with any tracking errors make the cut curved and the joints will not fit perfectly. The table is not your friend it will bite you when you least expect it, blade up or down.

[@twoweary]

Very informative video. A bit long though. You really don't need to show over a minutes worth of the same cut , just show a couple of cuts and skip to the end of that step.

[@thatellipsisguy8984]

twoweary, less time for musical accompaniment then.

[@nukebert1]

Great content, but kill the music. I go to a channel like this expecting to learn something, not to be distracted by your favorite music. If that’s the price I have to pay, so be it. There are other channels. Thank you for the effort.

[@JerryBennettArt]

bye

[@tom50mg]

Good day Gerry,I have friend in Connecticut that very much wants to purchase your wedgie jigs(sleds),can you please send me your contact info,thanks.