How Good is Buffed Astar? Necro Abyss Hard - Summoners War

[@joemama-kc7ez]

i think the best part is that speed tuning won’t get all messed up if your astar ends up close in spd to your other units, though it doesn’t really matter in the boss stage

[@GrassZeplin]

Really appreciate this guide sei. Little things like targeting the boss directly instead of stolen minion as well as weakest mob getting stolen helped me cut my avg by 30 sec thanks to this guide without really improving on dmg at all. The fire bat tip was awesome

[@akomedias]

Proud Necro farmer here - avg. 50 sec - you can't get enough of those Will and Rage runes tho

[@Ytremz]

When you realise you could have been farming swift and despair runes over will and rage… 😢

[@ahouse73]

Im farming necro rn, because I'm low on crystals and didnt farm it since abyss release and lacking quite a lot of necro runes

[@Seiishizo]

yea thats a great idea

[@renanhonda8304]

I just farm necro. Trying to get great rage and will runes. I know it is not the best runes to farm, but I like them. Just tryin to have some fun with the game. 55s average

[@Seiishizo]

Yea its a good way not to burn through the cystals too fast

[@verdeh1le222]

I'm farming necro time to time, like 2-3 days per week, ty for content

[@Silent25]

I took Astar and the Fire Bat out for Shamann and Lushen and got a 36.9~ best run. It’s fairly consistent too.

[@soulawaken24]

I didnt even notice the astar change. my necro timing more or less the same. anytime between 45 to 65seconds. Good enough for me. I am farming Necro more than the other 2 dungeons, really want to up my quality of rage runes for pve.

[@Shaberony]

Also, I have been actively farming necro during this event. Since you have a finite amount of farming you can do each day the speed at which you do it doesn't really matter so long as it all gets done. I farm down to 0 crystals and have the game off for most of the day. Having even more down time isn't more efficeint.

[@bigusdickus7866]

you dont keep farming 24/7?

[@Myrtlemasta]

is the new raoq/icaru transmog faster than the mecha transmog? Just wondering which I should get.

[@davewuqio2516]

+ 1 on it i also want to know

[@KyngJay.]

because of the astar changes, if you use the team with shaman instead of bat, abigail will use skill 3 on astar to strip her attack buff.

[@ronlanders7354]

Honey there's a new seiis video!

[@blowine4075]

As a turn 2 siege player i farm necro way more than i probably should, but its always good if im working and need to set my phone aside for half an hour :)

[@Rimokusu]

It would cut down some time if Necro Passive would set all ATK bars to 0. We've almost no room for optimizations as we need multihits to be able to damage the boss at all. I usually have units left on full atk bar hitting all the good skills into his barrier, but not enough hits to break it that fast. I'm not saying the game should be super easy and fast at all costs, but Necro might need a new design we can experiment with, that is more rewarding for good team combs. Just my thoughts.

[@omarwalwan]

Is the astar skin you're using the fastest? Or the magic student one?

[@Seiishizo]

they are about same spd

[@omarwalwan]

@@Seiishizo thanks

[@zero-wo3yc]

this, watched your vid and bought that magic student skin since you mentioned it was the fastest. then saw this vid, you are using different skin, like did i buy the wrong one from event lol

[@Seiishizo]

@@zero-wo3yc they are both same speed

[@sfer7233]

Now that Icaru on double fight accuracy is stacked 😅

[@Shaberony]

I saw an interesting team that used julie for the waves.

[@zacholson4963]

I farmed necro for about four and a half months to leave with no good rage atk % 2/6 and went back to giants cuz speed meta I did get some good will runes tho

[@Mm-dn5gc]

Sei im a bit out of the loop when it comes to necro, can i awake my water cannon or not? Im avg 50 sec something with her unawakened

[@сигнатурочка]

It is not using the 3rd skill on necro, idk why. It is easier to max the 2nd skill if unawakened though

[@tunglinhvu2105]

Sure, awakening it for more stat

[@shawndoesi5860]

They buffed abigail ai to not use the third skill if there's no buff to strip

[@tzera_rhuon]

She's safe to awaken now.

[@ArindraMeidyPratama]

Abigail AI's is improving, I got 44 secs record though after awakened her.

[@XPuntar]

Did I miss the memo (for Necro) when those Abyss dungeons were introduced? Do I actually need a sacrificial mob to clear those Abyss dungeons? I am asking because I can clear B10 with Tricaru in around 30 sec while I can barely clear Abyss normal (1+ min ) while Abyss hard is just no go most of the time. It mostly fail 90% of the time on auto! So I just do not bother at all with Necro Abyss versions. If I farm I just do B10 instead. It's reliable and fast and I do not care for those 2 new rune types at all! Just did a B10 10x run with Tricaru. average clear time is 42 secs. Abyss Normal would be double that with fails in between!

[@сигнатурочка]

Abyss has a way less chances of getting rare runes, so it is better to farm in terms of energy spending

[@HoangAnh-ye1wb]

Thats kinda a newbie way of thinking Abyss didnt exist just because of 2 new runes If you farm about 1000 runs of Abyss compare to B10 you will see In 1000 Abyss runs you will get like 450 purple, 400 blue and 150 legend runes While in 1000 B10 runs, you get like 650 blue, 300 purple and 50 legend Thats a lot of differences already, not to mention the new runes is clearly very strong in which in can replace any other set runes

[@XPuntar]

@@HoangAnh-ye1wb I see no point wasting my time when even at Abyss normal x10 run would fail at any time while If I would run B10 I would already clear double the runs! It is time-inefficient for me to run ANY Abyss dungeon because I would get FEWER runes in Abyss dungeons compared to B10 in the same time spent farming! Do not assume Energy efficiency is everything when I can do 40x runs in half an hour in Necro B10 while only 20x in Abyss normal with a high probability of failure! Which means even less runs done in those half an hour! I still haven't got an answer for my main question! Are Abyss dungeon teams built differently? I am asking BECAUSE Seeishizo uses a specific mon to get stolen by the Lich in Abyss Hard! As far as I remember that was never the case in B10!

[@HoangAnh-ye1wb]

@@XPuntar as i said, its a newbie way of thinking, because abyss hard is really easy to build now, you just have to ask some oldbies, and even thought the time would take longer, it woulnt be a problem since fast-farming is nothing if you will eventually low con crystal As for your information and question, Abyss requires us to not using the same Mon => Tricaru is no longer available because tricaru needs 3 of the same icaru As for Seiischzo, he used the 2* monster because the Necro on Abyss will suck the one who attack the most, and that monster always aoe attack in the first 3 rounds => most amount of attack hitted by him => necro will suck him up, and sucking him up is not a problem because hes weak and only there for the purpose of getting sucked instead of Asta

[@yonayo_hsb]

@@HoangAnh-ye1wb agreed with the first part, but the boss doesn't imprison the one who attacked the most, but the one with the highest attack value at the start of the boss. after that, he would imprison the one who did the most dmg, but that doesn't happen in speed teams. That's why his bat got high ass ATK, so Raoq or Astar don't get imprisoned.

[@hiitsgrinx3849]

Opinion on Emily instead of Abigail?

[@Seiishizo]

worse lead and will be hard focused by the dark units, so it's less recommended

[@jensb194]

Best in slot team is still abigail lushen icaru raoq and shaman. Lushen (highest atk) abigail raoq icaru shaman turnorder Fastest run i got is 35s. Abigail on full rev

[@Seiishizo]

sounds like a team that can quite often fail. and avg wise it will mostlikely be 50+ often

[@NovemberX]

​@@Seiishizo Agree. Lushen AI is derpy as hell. And he will cleave the team after being kidnaped by the boss LOL

[@jensb194]

@@Seiishizo even if lushen derps on waves it still gets cleaned up pretty nice. I have been running this for the past 4 months and haven't had any issues. Average is mostly around 40 to 45s

[@Hiro_Ieyasu]

​@@jensb194Wow. don't know what I'm doing wrong because that team is like 30% win rate for me. Lushen AI is horrendous.

[@miyukihanazawa4316]

I run necro while I workout in the gym

[@noviyoutube917]

Why does my astar not get a atk buff when I get attacked? It is a in built effect?

[@Seiishizo]

they changed her passive afterward to just give extra attack. so she can get both attackbuff + the passive.

[@noviyoutube917]

@@Seiishizo thank you sir! 🙏

[@ko300zx]

Abigail has always been horrible for me. Drives me crazy. Necro honestly wouldn't be too bad if she actually had decent AI and just S2'd when it was available.

[@ajaay786]

My bat on triple fight🥵

[@adse7205]

Necro Svcks, they need to improve that Dungeon, Rage and will runes great, but not farming in that way👎🏻

[@Seiishizo]

agree :P

[@grinnbearit8427]

I want more destroy, 56seconds is best 70 is average

[@moresezer8680]

Newish account 200days never farmed necro

[@StanHatesYou99]

Newish? 200 days? Im at 27 days now and Farming necro12. You must do smth wrong mate

[@SS530]

WORSE dungeon to farm fr

[@Caioboladim_]

could you make a toahell guide for dummies

[@MohaASeck]

The problem is that it's not really f2p content it's unit and runes dependant.

[@ryuox]

@@MohaASeck it can definitely be done f2p, it's just more a matter of if you're willing to take the time to deal with some stages

[@shippy1001]

TOAHELL has two things you gotta keep in mind. It`s not easy if you are F2P, you might need to re-rune several units for single stages. If you are not F2P, you just need good runes.

[@a.prayogo9857]

Check F2P player channel on yt for this... Seii rune isnt newb or f2p friendly

[@connorg4446]

Why do you have an xp buff for 239 days?

[@Kraedi]

Asking the real questions 🤣

[@CulturedHeaven]

No rage 🥶

[@picjojo8022]

i saw a post on reddit with a julie shaina icaru sabrina and astar. I tested it shortly and had a 40s avg time, but i think it will fail sometimes if astar uses s1 on boss. still dont farm necro xD i think my rage sets are good so i need better swift runes :D

[@Seiishizo]

hmm could work, but does sound dangerous, plus julie might nearly kill itself on waves

[@picjojo8022]

I had no problem with julie. Think the trick is double will shaina and astar. The team is from shroomia

[@nathanielmontemayor5601]

Is there a minimum speed required for this dungeon?

[@HasanPikerIsADouche]

He mentions it in the video that it's 152 spd total, for example, with astars base spd (110) you would only need +42 spd

[@khangchow5694]

i never summon an Astar sad

[@TheSlejhy]

HoH soon

[@dragonwave5224]

I do every other content except for necro.

[@LawlietDN_92]

As a former high g3 siege tryhard, I've never farmed nbah, that dungeon takes way too long compared to the other ones... My gbah is around 25 sec, it would literally take double this time to run necro, that is insanely long, it's never worth it for me unless I really need rage/will which I don't atm

[@potatomatop9326]

that's the good news for f2p. They only have limited xtals and won't matter if necro abyss is longer.

[@LawlietDN_92]

@@potatomatop9326 I am f2p but it's way more efficent to farm anything else. Then again, if you really need rage or will I guess there's no other choice

[@Hiro_Ieyasu]

Eh, if you don't have unlimited crystals time doesn't really matter. I farm necro when I know I only have enough energy/crystals for like an hour or 2 of farming.

[@potatomatop9326]

@@LawlietDN_92 we will always need will no matter what plus the mana return in necro hard is great

[@briansutherland1989]

A buff? Since com2us did whatever it was they did to Astar my nbah times are 30-40 seconds slower 😂

[@CulturedHeaven]

Tf is that team 💀

[@M_i_z_a_r_y]

i only farm giants , fuck necro

[@rizaliilmi2444]

Same bro

[@冬雪林ふゆきりん]

I only farm dragon fuck both giant and necro

[@Xavyoid]

Necro gang 💯 since Tr-icaru