LD4 Tier List 2024 Where to Use These Units?! - Summoners War

[@Seiishizo]

Missing units: Isillen (dark elf ranger) Decent unit in siege off, 4th tier.

[@Arthrexx]

Isillen is actually pretty good counter to Dark Asura. Pair her with the rat and Triana and just see dots fly everywhere. Basically hard counters one of the more common nat 4* bases. You don't hit those, so I can see why the placement :D Light Dryad is also a good counter for Dark Tomoe. Max skilled her shield completely negates the damage. Dark Poison guy is also really strong. Seen Aftermath players use him regularly in Siege.

[@arturpotalov6022]

Didn't you miss gladiatrix?

[@Kyduk]

TBH you should really look into the Light Dokkaebi Princess. She's basically a similar Molly, but a bit more useful and stronger (although you lose the potential to strip on S1)

[@Eiszahn]

Interesting list, with me playing an LD only account i cant fully agree with your list but i gues that just comes from me not beeing able to use the other 3 elements.

[@exctn]

@@Kyduk Not even close, glancing passive is really strong it can even screw up Nephthys' passive. I would only look twice when cleaving with my tiana/nephthys combo IF the defense have Molly/Nyx.

[@TheDupeDavec]

My guy doing gods work here and in general! Love your videos mate, keep em coming!

[@LieyLiey]

Light robo is basically an ld4 poseidon for arena offense, good dmg and counters nemesis, he lets u build alicia/pungbaek on full dmg for tiana/galleon

[@LieyLiey]

Also the self destruct animations looks really cool

[@iiShqdow]

Yeah and its irresistible which is amazing

[@firentialombardi906]

He's so fun to use too lol. Die, revive, Cooldown Reset, Die again.

[@DarkMewtwo94]

this tier list was SO helpful and needed with the 10 year anniversary scrolls! thank you sir and very well done and great job! keep up the amazing work seii!!

[@nivikoseven]

Great point of reference for all the ones I've summoned so far!

[@darkphase7799]

I love Dusky. He is fun to use randomly when people don't remember what he does and he also hits pretty hard.

[@dahhl777]

I think felleria is super underrated. Free win vs debuff heavy siege def. And she's great for early game r5 she can solo cleanse one team

[@GFRetroSenpaix]

U get it

[@tanpham7411]

I use her in RTA as well against heavy cc units like Rica or Fire Druid.

[@sammclaughlin6748]

It's actually wild how useful she is, and how many people just ignore her. She's been underrated for *years*, and without any of the nonsensical buffs/nerfs the rest of the ld4 roster has gotten

[@mehirrahmansumon6870]

Which one is felleria?

[@mehirrahmansumon6870]

​@sammclaughlihelp bron6748

[@victordominguez9297]

Light blacksmith is actually great, if you have her you should try some Odin or Federica teams, I like to use Laima and her together, nice tier and thanks for the vid!

[@tangostacker4745]

i thought this has an hoh tierlist for a second and got soooo happy when i saw icarus thought i missed the most insane hoh

[@durant8006]

They keep nerfing ld4 and buffing ld5 to the point it's not that excited to pull for ld4 unless it's dark string master

[@potatomatop9326]

martina and deborah are even better than other ld5s bro

[@skipaxsmiley222]

Is she good?just got her recently

[@durant8006]

@@skipaxsmiley222 she is now easily the best ld4 right now

[@skipaxsmiley222]

@@durant8006 damm lucky me

[@durant8006]

@@potatomatop9326 Deborah only good for ppl who have alot of crystal to farm dungeon and Martina can be replaced with other units

[@eddy796]

There is also a weird chamie build of high Speed/Hp and stacking additional damage artifacts to use its stacks. A fun build but definitely outclassed

[@MarinaMouseVT]

after looking at the light dokkaebi princess I think she might have some uses her passive heals everyone for 30% on her turn than another 30% if they have a beneficial effect, if I had her I could say if she is actually good but I think she is usable

[@chingling135]

She’s cracked

[@dergutename]

if you dont wanna use aka in gbah u can use ereadas (white sylph thing) aka is better but if you want to be different

[@RiftyLuca]

quad hit into giants tho

[@jonyongkkkl5119]

When 90% of the LD4 are more useful than 50% of the LD5, that speaks volume. Also people are not very familiar with LD4 skillset so that can bring an element of surprise to the opponent.

[@TaleSmith3Gaming]

YOOO this dude doesnt missss lmao props to ur Vid bruh

[@darrelld8578]

Frigate is very underrated. He’s the single biggest attack bar booster in the game. Good for speed arena teams

[@dramatique5624]

there’s a 3* that does the same tho

[@marielcarey4288]

And the 3 star is faster​@@dramatique5624

[@pierrelapierre7108]

​@@dramatique5624But Purian base spd is trash . Frigate easier to rune since he has higher base spd.

[@Steven-jj4oo]

I have lots of ld archers but never used lol good to see this coz i keep using my 3 martinas every siege

[@moin-123]

18:35 I see MST still pretty often in the Backline of g3 Sieges.

[@creeeamy7133]

Eva is a really funny unit and I really want to use her in 4* Special league when I can. Along side Konamia and any kind of defense breaker she's done well for me in guild content, but I haven't found anything setup where I can use her in RTA even in the lower tiers.

[@WhiskyWhiskyWoo]

what's some Chris offences and what do you use them into

[@charalacuchara9765]

Glad to see Cris and Bethony cuz I spam the hell out of those 2. Easily my fav units in the game

[@Russianstundard]

thanks for making this!

[@mateusbp2]

I have Leah but I don't have any setup for her, only Galleon, I don't have Tiana or Adriana, and for me, she doesn't do more damage than Lushen because I can't make her very fast.

[@MohaASeck]

You don't need her to have more than +120 and you can replace Adrianna by eshir or fire blade dancer or the premium Craig. So chiwu/Gemini - Fire blade - Galleon and Leah

[@BurakMerem]

Any suggestion of chris in siege offence?? Chilling Chris @??

[@justinwilder8571]

Yeah I'm not really understanding how to make Chris work at all

[@pierrelapierre7108]

Probably use a gemini ?

[@treeck3724]

It'd likely be chilling Chris miyang, same idea as miyang adriana sonia, fast base spd spd buffer and big nuke in Chris/sonia with miyang for spd lead and extra dmg/2nd 1 shot on squishy stuff

[@justinwilder8571]

@@treeck3724 Thank you I will test this out EDIT: Tested it, she is not a big nuke at all. I looked through all the defenses of my guild and saw 0 places where I would be able to pick her. And you would never build her over something like a Khali or Shren. I think Seii made a mistake.

[@lennartstockl5826]

On my new account I used Halphas to get through the 70s stages in toa hard. (Dark yeti and Jultan stages.) It was sefinetely a new low in my life.

[@emiliorojas5010]

Didn't got any Ld5 in the event, but pulled Vritra

[@jan-g5269]

thank you so much for the video :3

[@CommanderCody212]

I love all of my LD4's being in either Not commonly used, but probably bad, or BAD/Meme 😭

[@NicoLuna95]

Wait doesn't Lucas get 30 Crit rate by default from passive? Even if shield is down I mean

[@Seiishizo]

Apparently he doesn't need it no.

[@rohan5564]

Yes, he gets free 30% CR and damage boost in proportion to the shield thickness (not only his own shield but any shield applied to him)

[@Francorocco]

how do you build the light cookie for subjugation? with hp or just ignore the hp scaling and focus on atk? i got one but have no clue how to rune for that content

[@Seiishizo]

mainly just dmg. 100 cr some speed. bit tanky. use some leftover fatal blades that you probably have from farming giants. all of my cookies for subjugation are fatal something. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4GZimaqhdV7m9E

[@Francorocco]

@@Seiishizo but like, his skills have an ho scaling, should i ignore this and just put atk anyway?

[@MegaKenny9]

@@Francoroccohe doesn’t have any hp scaling. It’s only if his hp drops under 50% that his s2 shuts off. So atk is the way to go

[@Francorocco]

@@MegaKenny9 ty

[@Zeledon3]

Dang, I just finished building my dragunov, but at least I know to pull my dark string out from storage😅

[@pimenta2541]

don't care to him, build what you think is good, this is the fun of the game

[@lukildsz]

Gg man, tnx, link for the list?

[@Seiishizo]

edited it in the description

[@Lp0tr33]

I got Lucia the light cyborg. Haven't tried her yet, not sure if she should be a super tank, or some hybrid like the dragon knights.

[@ConspiracyNewsChanel]

sure some can be replaced with nat 5s but not on 4star defense towers siege! js! ;) always like!

[@the.reel.mccoy.]

The only one that I slightly disagree is Sige, He actually has a lot of turn control on Vio

[@hirstygaming4752]

Thoughts on this tier list on an LD only account?

[@YanlucasxD]

Hard disagree on Tosi, I used to use him in AO before I pulled Leah He's basically Leah with ~30% less dmg, but still enough damage to cleave those Karnal defenses

[@Seiishizo]

I think many units can do more dmg than him, i wouldn't use tosi for it if i didn't have leah.

[@SivabalanRajasekaran]

Bro, Light Robo shit??, it has some great potential pls try using HP, CD, HP build and it does like 30K damage and attack bar boost and decrease is irresistable.. so it can be followed with Bael (S3) or other for decent cleave

[@galleonspeedrunner8655]

26:35...doesnt the new fire cyborg become the most consistent def break unit in the game rn after nepthys?? if fire cyborg has high enough atk she will always land aoe def break without res check

[@trugam3r402]

Yep. He wasn’t aware of that tho, vid was before new monster

[@martinlutherkingsize]

light robot is quite good in specifique teams

[@diaolener]

nice one :D

[@brandonmorgan-f6x]

great video

[@ChoperJoJo]

and to think years ago i wished for a dark samurai and got it in 2020 i think. Gave him all my devilmons lmao... the regrets now

[@hmmmmmyes8062]

no dark sniper? i just got him but seems kinda me

[@Queendom-jd9ln]

I got Leah & Icares but no nat 5 this many scroll event. I mean there are 200+ more scrolls available but after 250 scrolls I havent got nat 5. Leah & Icares are the only great ld i got. Time to delete the account & make new.

[@moacyrnogueiraluz1196]

Which string master for Toa hell? Light or wind or use both? Kinda confused

[@Seiishizo]

Light, then wind, then fire in that order.

[@lenlilam8199]

Trasar is pretty insane in g2 siege and below

[@dracyra]

is there will be ld5 tier list?

[@MohaASeck]

Waiting for Seii to make Chris offenses because yeah her placing is kinda sus

[@Seiishizo]

check the arena hits of guts the berserk. he uses her quite some.

[@chibbster1691]

why do u only need 53 acc on bomber?

[@Mystery-2nite]

sad light neostone agent isnt all that good, it looked strong to me

[@ShiekSw]

Skogul trasar in siege is pretty strong

[@durant8006]

Arnold beat this easy

[@ShiekSw]

@@durant8006 as a offense haha

[@durant8006]

@@ShiekSw oh my bad

[@butchthebullbro]

id be curious to know why Dark Ezio is so bad lol

[@wagon3855]

specifical is not a word but great video otherwise

[@Seiishizo]

www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/specifical#:~:text=Definition%20of%20'specifical'&text=1.,a%20specified%20or%20particular%20thing okay

[@moin-123]

😂

[@lordvectra7821]

​@@Seiishizo LOL GOTTEM

[@lolc4108]

Yeah..l wait my first mirinae,kinki,dova,dark archer,leah and martina 😢

[@MohaASeck]

Damn the disrespect on Korona is insane even Lanett (actual trash unit) is higher

[@carlhaight3827]

I agree, actually! I use him to help prevent people cutting my terribly speed tuned units. And if Arena units don't have buffs? great, toss out the crit/atk buffs.

[@suleymanylmaz15]

thanks

[@loganadam4108]

Rating units on how useful they are in summoners war but only if they should be built for siege! Thanks

[@nathanchen2824]

Man this is really weird to see because I have both light and dark magic archer but was told dark is ok but requires too much setup and that light was just decent. I also have 2 dovas and 1 dark string master that are both unbuilt (because my swift runes are garbage) but I never knew they were considered so strong

[@laxusanime2504]

Is this video glitched

[@Queendom-jd9ln]

I came here because I got Aurelia(light Gladiatrix) & u didn't even include her💀💀🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

[@Dnice_]

I pulled her as well and omg she never lands anything! Granted she's not skilled up but still.

[@carlhaight3827]

Is included. mentioned in passing. Meme level. Aure/Kass.

[@ramirosantana2648]

Cant believe the place of the samurais...even the light pirate among them???!!!...nop. Inacceptable...

[@BullettBooks]

Where is isillen? Dark elf

[@Seiishizo]

good point that one is missing i'll write it in the comments

[@ConspiracyNewsChanel]

1 more thing! Com2us needs to End LD4 HOH! We get enough free ld scrolls and pieces to summon these days! LD summons has become underwhelming for way too long and the fact that back in the day people would buy ld scrolls to get those very hard to get, really good ld4s and to give really good ones away for free is like a slap in the face to those who really keep this game alive! No money spent, no game! Thats just reality! Therefore, enough damage has been done to ld summons and its time to either get rid of hoh entirely since we get enough scrolls period for free or rotate existing ld4s hoh during ld rotations! And Fix RTA for once! Stop nerfing units because a few people cant deal with certain units! Of course there are Very Few Exceptions in the past but I dont believe theres anything that cannot be dealt with! Maybe a permanent Ban before the match starts like Competitive! Im tired of listening to some people who are upset with one unit and then the unit they have thats complained about is ok to keep the same! js!

[@ronlanders7354]

I agree korana is pretty bad in rl and in game.😂

[@farhanqqq5358]

Where we can use deborah ?

[@diluc1611]

Tbh I see more mollys than bettas and I’m more scared of Molly 😂

[@donwebster9292]

Doesnt do enough damage and just makes me mad. Lol.

[@Thepokedek]

I made a comment back in 15/16 when i got illiana (she was my first l&d 4 star that was outside of a HOH) that she wasn't anything special and Chloe was kinda better in the buffs she provided or the very least more useful than a 4* light monster in Illiana. That comment to this day is the top voted comment in her discussion and you guessed it, almost 9 years later she hasn't been buffed.

[@mdnght0095]

Are u dutch ?

[@shadowlegends8433]

Eva?

[@Seiishizo]

Not on it? if not i do say lower tier

[@Ant-Honey568]

Magnus Carlsen for summoners war

[@mehirrahmansumon6870]

Someone pls comment the heroes mentioned in the vid lol

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

[@philippemuniz4203]

Dark Taoist

[@Seiishizo]

nat 3

[@Caioboladim_]

forgot about isillen

[@Seiishizo]

added him in comments, thanks :)

[@Caioboladim_]

@@Seiishizo love your content

[@summonersummoner9536]

Green should be the best units and red the worse

[@Seiishizo]

Guess you have never seen a tier list from tier list maker :P i just copied their "standard"

[@summonersummoner9536]

@@Seiishizo yeah I know they all do the same, green should be great and red bad... :S

[@Surr3alD3sign]

More or less, if you get an ld 4 its boring as shit and you wish it was a basic element 😐 thats fucking awful... whats worse is that the ld 5s follow this EXACT same fucking trend of so very few of them actually being good and the rest are niche at best

[@ShiekSw]

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[@Vimouch3]

« OP, build multiple » 😂

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...