Seiko Antarctica Monster & Orient Land M-Force Double Unboxing!

[@timelesssneakersandwatches]

Shane!!!!! Great video and thank you so much for the shout out bud! Glad my video helped a little! 😊🍻 congrats on the pick ups.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! Hope you get some extra views.

[@timelesssneakersandwatches]

@@RelativeTime I appreciate you! Keep killing it 😊🍻

[@dude28405]

I was trying to go to sleep but when one of my top favorite watch channels bring out Seiko and orient I have to watch

[@markgrieves1307]

And me Peter. Shane just grabs your attention.

[@tedblack2415]

Yep,, same here .

[@MrShinobi797]

I appreciate your more “ Laid Back " vibe in this content Shane. Hope to see you like this in future videos.

[@ralphus555]

Another great review Shane. Love the new format. Both of these watches are awesome.

[@JusttheWatch]

The dial on the Seiko is awesome! Great texture and color, and the penguin foot prints are really well done. Nice and subtle, but super cool touch. I like the asymmetrical look it brings. I love Sea World too. We spent a year in the US in 2017, and got season passes to Sea World, and went as often as we could!

[@noice9709]

Great video! Especially love your comments about what watch collecting is all about. Cherished memories, warm feelings of nostalgia or celebrating a major milestone/achievement with a special watch that's fondly worn for years and years ...it just keeps getting better and better. Gotta laugh at that Seiko bezel alignment!

[@RelativeTime]

Yah. Seiko' design team is on point, but they need to reorganize their manufacturing team.

[@steveneal8247]

Really enjoyed the video. I tried to purchase the Seiko Monster Antarctica as soon as I saw it on the Long Island Watch site. Unfortunately they sold out before I could place the order! I sent Marc an email and got on the waitlist. Ordered the following week and haven’t had any other watches on my wrist since I received it from USPS. I love the dial. Fortunately the bezel on mine lines up well. This is my second watch from the STO collection. I had purchased the Blue Whale Turtle last year. I’m thinking I might have to pick up a Manta and a Great White now too. Can’t say I care for the M-Force. Even on my 8.5” wrist I think it would just be too much. Reminds me of some of the Invictas.

[@ozludo]

Nice pictures Shane - I like the new setup. Both of the Antarctica dials are fantastic, but the Baby Tuna is slightly spoiled by the date at 4.30. My opinion, and full credit to anyone who loves it. There was a great deal available on the Monster here in Australia and I came really close, but it's too similar to the coral blue SBDC067. If that dial was available on a King Samurai it would be perfect. The M-Force - wow. That's a lotta steel. The crenelated crown guards are too much for me, so I think I'll wait a few years until the next iteration. But if someone has the Popeye arm to wear it, good for them.

[@mattys1467]

Great double unboxing of two interesting watches 👌

[@halfpastblog]

Those monsters are highly underrated in my opinion. I think I'm going to have to wear mine today.

[@RelativeTime]

It's pouring here today, so I'll be wearing mine.

[@BourbonDrinker]

I have an Orient and wear it about 50% of the time, so it is a favorite. That one is really cool.

[@TechnoLawyer]

That monster's dial is really something.

[@420spuzzard]

The Wad Monster, named so for the waddling penguin footprints! ;) lol I just purchased a Heimdallr Sharky, but I think I might have to try a real monster, and this would be the perfect one.

[@RelativeTime]

Who knows, Heimdallr might have their own version in a few months.

[@dunderhay9169]

Your unboxings are more thorough than some reviews 👍 . I do like that Monster and loved your reminiscences about Sea World.

[@ManoloVintage]

I'd name it the Emperor Monster. I first hated the monster but now I'm kind of liking it and I may buy one.

[@danielhristov6175]

Gorgeous both! Been watching that Orient on amazom for long! Thanks for the upload

[@freddyrincon1481]

I thought I'd see a picture of downtown San Diego on your wall in one of your vids..🤙🏼

[@stephenbridges2791]

Nice knife, Shane (first things first). If I had to pick between the 2 Seiko's mentioned, I would have to pick the Tuna version. That oblong cyclops is just asking for the Seiko treatment. That's just one too many things for them to get lined up. EVERY one of the regular monsters I have seen has something crooked on it. Every single one. I like Orient, but; I'd have to study on that M-Force for awhile.

[@jimmylaw2136]

good one. I have the Padi Monster version. personally I would go for the tuna version, as it gives more space for the dial to shine.

[@mfrankel8321]

Hi Shane, great review! You were looking for a potential nickname for the Seiko monster.. How about Polar Monster?

[@todjordan604]

Nice unboxing, Shane. As always, looking fed to your reviews.

[@jimmyschiel3863]

The Orka caseback is the most requested of my customers, Bill Murray, then the Scuba Dude.

[@gynechiatrist]

The Antarctic is still amazing. A thought on the Orient. I spent $80 replacing the bracelet on a Kamasu with a Miltat. That bracelet would be just fine- if you put a Miltat diver clasp with extension in place. For $20 to $30 less. And yes. It looks as overbuilt as a Ruger SA revolver.

[@sigh782]

Hello Shane, very much enjoy your channel! Is that the Vario Trench in 40mm brass you have there? I went for 37mm Brass - preferred the size and 2balance" of the dial. Kind Regards

[@jimmylaw2136]

for the Orient, I have the older Bravo version. removing the power reserve indicator for the new M-Force is a dealbreaker for me...

[@chrisb5986]

One of the cooler STO dials.

[@manueljnegrete5048]

Hello Shane, nice review on a nice Seiko even though Seiko has lost me because of recent practices. My favorite part is your personal connection to the foot prints. In my collection I have a few vostocs and a Captain Willard also that are very important to me. Why? During my military stint in the early 70s among other places I was stationed in Germany near the Chec border during the cold War. The watches have a special place in my collection.

[@richardvacanti4265]

I had the seiko ice monster also. Paid only $200. Unfortunately I sold it a while back. I really really regret doing that. Now the cheapest I can get one for is about 350.

[@alextomlinson1725]

I went for the Baby Tuna but it wasn't an easy choice between the two. Excellent photography Shane and usual fine review. I have several Orient watches but the M Force won't be added to the collection.

[@tri7661]

Ah, another unboxing from Shane. This is some good stuff.

[@RB-pg3br]

what type of knife is that? looks custom!

[@robertb925]

I really like the dial and handset on the Orient, but those crown guards are a little too much.

[@furzkram]

I ought the orange monster just when you reviewed the ice monster. A month later I bought the ice monster too. The ice monster's hour hand is +6 minutes off, and the movement is always slow. The orange monster was perfectly aligned, but suddenly the movement was + and - all over the place. I had a watchmaker regulate it, and it worked at +5 seconds a day for a few weeks, before it started being all over the place AGAIN. Both movements definitely had not experienced any hard bumps or anything that would explain them being off. Now both are sitting in the box for months already, my interest in them is GONE.

[@raymondrichardson6061]

That Seiko is gorgeous. A date only option with a cyclops would be preferable, but it is still very desirable.

[@brianmsahin]

2 very nice watches Shane, looking forward to the reviews, the Seiko is an attractive piece and I admit I love that Orient M-FOOORRCCEEEE! LOL. I have a shade under 8" wrist so the size is good, my Mako XL which is 44.5mm is very comfortable. Honestly if I had the budget right now I'd buy it. As for the Seiko, I hate to say it, but there's a new frost dial Heimdallr Monster with sapphire glass (no cyclops👍), solid e/l bracelet, same movement for about $180. Unfortunately though, it lines up perfectly too, so not quite a Seiko 😉

[@1968jpy]

I really want this new Seiko Monster. I already own the new 2020 Mforce diver with red dial and black bezel . Love my new Orient Mforce watch. This new Mforce land master is cool and love the stainless steel bezel. The Mforce is 45 mm but 47 mm with crown guards.

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I really like the unboxing i never liked the rattling and noise from a unboxing very neat !!

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I bought the Seiko Samurai Manta Ray partly because i used to dive with great Manta Rays great memories !

[@andreaiacolina]

I really like the dial of the Antartica Seikos, but I probably prefer the Tuna. I'd like to see them in person the next time I will go to my AD.

[@RelativeTime]

At this point seeing them in person is the best way to go. That way you can make sure everything is lined up.

[@andreaiacolina]

@@RelativeTime 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@HVG67]

I saw you listed the caliber on the Seiko as a NH35A, but officially It's a 4R36 of course 😆 Not sure if in practice it matters at all. But it sounds better I guess. I'm really thinking about picking one up too.. The Orient on the other hand... 🤔 Weird one. Those crazy oversized crown guards are a bit ugly to me, but the rest looks kinda cool and unique...

[@GODSPEEDseven]

The Antarctica Monster is my favorite dial within the Save the Ocean lineup. I was really taken away with the Manta Ray dials, but I quickly became annoyed at the amount of reflection on the dial itself, so they rarely got wrist time. I like the first gen Save the Ocean with the Humpback Whale "lines" and the Antarctica very much. The penguin feet are subtle enough they blend in unless you look closely enough, and the fumé effect blending with the chapter ring is near perfect at normal viewing distance. Just a quick thought here, what would you think of this Monster, but with a dark blue bezel? A little bit like on the PADI monsters.

[@RelativeTime]

I think the steel bezel is a better choice. I have the Heimdallr version of the padi with the blue bezel, and wasn't too impressed with that part. Here I think it would distract a little from the dial. Where the steel acts as more of a frame.

[@TheGoodwolfe]

I like Seiko & Orient Dive watches with a preference toward Orient (after Seiko abandoned the SKX). The Orient M-Force looks are overkill for me, so I'd pass. I like the Antarctica Monster, but it seems a bit overpriced. Side note, I bought a Baby Ice Monster 2 years ago after watching your video, and it's still one of my favorites!

[@RelativeTime]

Yah it is a bit. Mostly because it's new, so it's going to be at almost MSRP. One reason I jumped on it now is because I think it might sell out. The frost monsters used to be this price and are now over a grand if you find one.

[@TheGoodwolfe]

@@RelativeTime - That makes sense & is a good point. It just irks me to pay over $450 for a watch without a sapphire crystal. I paid $159 for my Baby Ice Monster with same movement & similar specs except WR, and they now sell for $350+ !

[@limacuan]

The M-force has a pretty large fan base here in Malaysia, I don't really get the older versions even though I've seen it in steel for a few times, but this new all steel looks does look kinda... intimidatingly cool?

[@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm]

I own the Monster V2, and an orange V1(well used but purchased at a reasonable price)…I just received a homage from HEIMDALLR. ‘Frost monster’….some sharp edges! But otherwise a better watch than my Seiko’s…Sorry Seiko. Sapphire crystal, better bracelet/clasp, same quality movement etc etc….$149 pre order(had to wait 3-4 months) now $189…. No reason to buy the Seiko…unless the brand name is worth $400-500 more to you.

[@Shri_V]

The Seiko looks like a nice homage to the Heimdallr frosty monster.

[@RelativeTime]

Ouch! 😂

[@chasekemp4982]

Emperor Monster works. The Emperor penguin is the largest penguin in Antarctica.

[@RelativeTime]

That works. I remember seeing an Emperor Penguin at Sea World. They were pretty big.

[@jeffreygleaves2931]

I think Orient needs to back up and try again on that beast. It's different but they missed on the 'cool' different.

[@jimmyschiel3863]

I really like that Seiko, maybe South Pole Monster?

[@Xoan-Diaz]

Loved the magic unboxing knife, where can I buy one? 😏

[@RelativeTime]

It's still in R&D. Sometimes it gets messy and cardboard explodes everywhere.

[@karlsenula9495]

The penguin feet also look like the old dinosaur fossil footprints ... soooo dino-monster?

[@RelativeTime]

The should make a dino monster. Make the dial a sand / champagne color. Make it look it's somewhere in the middle of the desert.

[@karlsenula9495]

@@RelativeTime dinosaur skin pattern on the dial ... the dinosaur feet and a dinosaur on the caseback .. and maybe crown? .. I'll bet that would sell HUGE. The 'extinction' special ... a.k.a. dino-monster ... they could even have smaller runs of select dinosaurs .. triceratops, t-rex, brontosaurus, sea-dino with a megalodon etc.

[@RelativeTime]

@@karlsenula9495 Seiko... If you are watching, make it happen. Also send us each a watch for the idea.

[@karlsenula9495]

@@RelativeTime ...lol ... love that idea 👍 I'll take the triceratops. Send mine to Shane so he can review a couple of different dino versions and Shane you can forward it on to me - given the popularity of the t-rex I think that would be the big seller.

[@chasfoster9895]

Because of Seiko’s QC problems, I’m boycotting them. However, as a native Texan, I will purchase a model with Armadillo tracks when available.

[@RelativeTime]

That would be cool. Or road runner tracks.

[@iTziLLUMY]

Voice is very pleasant to my ears

[@PaulewingStHelens]

I thought the seiko looked better off the wrist but on the wrist that orient looked well cool. Both great looking watches though. It is a shame that the orient bracelet has that cheap looking clasp but aside that it's the one I think I'd choose.

[@jaysmall5586]

Didn't think much of the M-Force seeing photos of it, but looking at it now I kinda like the steel everywhere aesthetic. Looking forward to the review so I can see the lume comparison.

[@josephj7387]

Great content as always Shane! I will never understand the design logic that went into the m-force minute second hand counterbalance :/ just why??? Apart from the case size I don't see any other negatives per say! Both watches looks ubercool! Please don't ever get rid of the monster Shane!

[@RelativeTime]

I won’t, even with the misaligned bezel, it’s a keeper. I should of held onto the ice monster too.

[@deanspeer1]

I like the Orient. To me the "M-Force" name always referred to the power reserve indicator all M-Force models had. I'm not a fan of the new ones.

[@RelativeTime]

Yah. Unfortunately Orient seems to be making that an exclusive feature for Orient Star.

[@thetimebombardier]

Nice review as always mate 👍 really think the penguin footprint is kinda wrong to me, would have looked better without them 😎 the orient is so cool, chunky monkey 🐒

[@StefanBacum]

Love the Orient.. Seiko.. Meh. Great video!

[@furzkram]

How do you tell a fake Seiko diver? On the fake, the bezel is perfectly aligned and has no play.

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

Is there already an ice monster?

[@bobmclennan1727]

That penguin dial is beautiful, but the two watches it comes on aren't my style. Monster and Tuna models put so much emphasis on the bezels (and to a lesser extend, the cases) that dials - in my opinion - are easily overshadowed by what's framing them. If they ever port that dial over to a Samurai or a Turtle, then I'm in trouble...

[@GODSPEEDseven]

I was also "afraid" of that when I got the Antarctica, never having tried a Monster before. Here though, I cam assure you, all eyes go straight to the dial. It's impossible to get the effect from a video, but because of the way the markers sit on top of where there is a change in color, they sometimes almost appear as floating over the ice. I'm not sure how to put it, but they work much better here because of that chapter ring then they would on the samurai/turtle. Keep in mind, you are seeing things pretty much bigger here than you would on your wrist, which kind of "distorts" the effect.

[@RelativeTime]

That's true. Sometimes a wrist shot tells things more like it is. I'm a little frustrated with the bezel and the fit of the endlinks suck. Yet even with that this is becoming one of my favorites. The dial texture and coloring is very unique. I'd be curious to see Seiko do a grey version that looks like the moon. Complete with little craters.

[@osgoodbad]

A monster at the South Pole? Sounds like just The Thing.

[@Miginath]

Call it the Sully. From Monsters Inc.

[@lulul]

i'm sad they are phasing out the baby ice monster.. i realy liked that one..

[@RelativeTime]

Yah, I'm not sure why. Seiko seems to be phasing out everything unique and different these days.

[@TJ-Network100]

My suggestion: The Abominable Monster. Maybe its a giant penguin or is it?

[@choond]

Great video 👍

[@eduardoarosemena655]

Great video, the monsters may benefit if the designers improve bezel, in my humble opinion it is kind of ugly, that is why I stay away from that line, the Orient M Force looks great.

[@richio2525]

How about "The Penguin" ?

[@campshay19]

Haven't seen this version of the m force yet

[@RelativeTime]

I think it was released in Japan in June. Although someone point out that it's a regular 200m, not a divers. Which is disappointing.

[@OneBravo1]

If you found "Happy Feet Monster" to be a silly name, then you'll think "Chilly Willy Monster" is a down right ridiculous.

[@robbabcock_]

Interesting watches! But I take it you're not joining "M-FORCE!" 💪😂😁

[@RelativeTime]

Maybe... Although I might do a fake movie trailer opening for the review. M-Force!

[@richio2525]

...Or "The Ice Prints" (ice prince).

[@brifiveo]

Chill monster

[@RelativeTime]

That's a good one.

[@bruceleroy8063]

The Yeti

[@terryk9240]

4r36 movement or nh35?

[@RelativeTime]

4r

[@wallytangofoxtrot4721]

Penguin feet or Alien hands?

[@RelativeTime]

Same thing?

[@TinBin-Craig]

like the monster a lot.... not a fan of the orient. i hate them lugs near the winder cheers

[@RelativeTime]

You mean the double D sized crown gaurds?

[@TinBin-Craig]

@@RelativeTime yeah lol dont look right...

[@MortalMechanica]

San Diegan Chiming in.

[@jaysterling26]

The pingu?

[@RelativeTime]

That works.

[@elboogy]

Oswald-ster lol

[@renngretsch]

The Orient reminds me of a Seiko Franken Monster at 9:09 and the mention of a smooth bi-directional bezel made me think Seiko Flightmaster. Two great Seikos I own at almost double the price I paid for both...I'm just an old man that is very bitter about inflation, haha.

[@anthonydevono8833]

Monster is ok the m force is really good but to big for me unfortunately

[@timefliesby-jleo474]

4r36 not 5!

[@RelativeTime]

Did I mess up the spec page? I'm visiting family for a bit and edited it together on my ipad. I knew I was gonna mess something up.

[@timefliesby-jleo474]

@@RelativeTime it’s all good man, love your work. Keep it up, You don’t make many mistakes at all so, good job!

[@timefliesby-jleo474]

Wow

[@elarson312]

The Seiko dial looks really cool. The poor bezel alignment is not acceptable and Seiko needs to improve those bracelets. The M force though is super odd/ugly. Weird crown guards, awful bracelet and ugly indices are just the start. The Orient is a definite no.

[@rumatadestora]

Not impressed with the Seiko Monster, the Orient is a much better watch. Besides, that misalignment is no joke

[@RelativeTime]

Yah... At this point it's getting ridiculous. Seiko needs to fire whoever is in charge of production and QC. Made in Japan used to mean something.

[@dosprompt5418]

You call that a boxcutter? This is a boxcutter.

[@Ktc99999-b]

the designers must be nuts to put white hands over snow background. Totally unreadable.

[@RelativeTime]

I've had it for a while now, and surprisingly not bad. Mostly because the background is more of a light blue that gets much darker as you get to the outer edges. Which contrasts enough from the pure white on the hands and indices.

[@Bigaletto]

The Seiko is nice. I hate the M-Force.

[@RelativeTime]

At least it's fun to say. 😎

[@RogerSartet007]

Orient goes Vostok, lol

[@NotstarvinMarvin]

Seiko are pushing it... The downgrade off the movement, low clasp, misalignments, very cheap box... Asking 500 euros for this is too much even though it looks nice... Great video though!

[@NotstarvinMarvin]

Edit: ofcourse i bought it🤓.

[@watchyouwant1617]

@@NotstarvinMarvin totally agree and probably I‘ll have to make the same edit in a few days😂. I‘m constantly eying this Monster…

[@watchuwatching1286]

😴

[@RelativeTime]

🐧🐧🐧

[@AlexanderB.]

One hit (Antarctic Monster) one miss (Orient M-Force)! This thing is fugly!