Sekiro Deflecting EXPLAINED

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Igor

Igor

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@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 6 ай бұрын
! ! IMPORTANT ! ! A pretty major error within the video (the wiki thing is a bit ironic now, isnt it?): - Stages only exist for guarding, guard inputs after deflecting work differently. - Input after deflect instead triggers an additive animation which gives you 300ms (18 frames) worth of deflect frames (a000_299060) - The additive itself is a full second long - Speffect 100285 (Jasuga addition) is what gives you the said additive, but it can only be done once - When speffect 100285 is active, and you already have the additive, you can not input a deflect. Issue with this system, is that each deflect animation resets your jasuga addition (100285) back to 300ms, and because you can not input another guard during it, you arent able to reset the animation for more frames. This can cause a desync which makes you vulnerable. Lets say you input an additive animation 125ms before an attack hits you. You now deflect the attack, and have 175ms of deflect frames left. The jasuga addition is now reset back to 300ms, but your leftover deflect frames arent. So now your deflect frames end in 175ms, but your jasuga addition is 300ms, which makes you vulnerable for the 125ms leftover. If youre not sure what an additive animation is, its what plays on top of whatever is going on (it does not override the existing animation). Sorry for the inconveniences once again. Also, random info regarding umbrella since I've seen some people interested: - Umbrella has 24 deflect frames on open, and 48 on spin (they kick in from frame 0, so there is no timing involved) - Umbrella has its own deflect logic, but it basically makes all the hits super small (like DL8)
@mmZar
@mmZar 6 ай бұрын
From my understanding, floating passage 4x can be deflected with only three L1 input. 1st L1: deflect 1st hit 2nd L1: deflect 2nd & 3rd hit(Jasuga addition is active for only 2nd hit, because the time interval between 2nd & 3rd hit is smaller than 300ms.) 3rd L1: deflect 4th hit Do I understand your comment correctly?
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 6 ай бұрын
@@mmZar uhh from memory, first 2 hits are spaced out enough to where you can do those in 2 inputs. The last 2 hits however, are within that 300ms range where jasuga addition is active, so you need to do 2 deflects in 1 input
@tdjgaming4491
@tdjgaming4491 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Couldnt get past the first 5 seconds because of the lack of subway surfers in the corner.
@_iRBiS
@_iRBiS 7 ай бұрын
This analysis is incredible and it’s all the little details that can be found just on the parades, it’s crazy, good job Igor!
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 7 ай бұрын
Couldn't mention some finer details due to the length of the video, but hopefully what has been said is still informative
@Joex0f
@Joex0f 7 ай бұрын
So basically, according to this video, people who parry one mind without dashing/using tech in Vanilla Sekiro are cheaters. Good to know and great work!
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, fully deflecting one mind or nightjar jumping 6x without tech is impossible
@_doge921
@_doge921 7 ай бұрын
Nice video, now I finally understood deflecting properly. Just a suggestion, don’t blur the filler gameplay unrelated to the video all the time, unless some information is on the screen.
@Ken_Za.
@Ken_Za. 7 ай бұрын
top tier sekiro content
@user-9097
@user-9097 6 ай бұрын
commenting for the algorithm here, this is an absolutely incredible video! pls make more of this top tier content
@rustysponge3398
@rustysponge3398 6 ай бұрын
I love watching these kinds of videos while I pretend to know what's being spoken about
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I tried to simplify it by using the "ripping the bandaid" approach (shooting the info quickly, so as to not make it boring), and segment it so people can come back to bits which might have been confusing. Sorry if I failed to deliver on that.
@sinelacico
@sinelacico 7 ай бұрын
This was a really great video! And it also helped me solve a few issues with a game I'm currently working on, so thank you man.
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 7 ай бұрын
Wow, honestly, I expected this video to be used for like, understanding where auto deflect is used. Genuinely made my day knowing it can help for game development. Wish you best on your game!
@ttchme9816
@ttchme9816 4 ай бұрын
The masculine urge to hop on sekiro and perfectly deflect Floating Passage by just looking to the left is irresistible now
@eltigremuyloco
@eltigremuyloco 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the good explanation and including me in the video. 👍
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 7 ай бұрын
Wasn't sure if including your clips was okay. Glad to see you enjoy the video
@eltigremuyloco
@eltigremuyloco 7 ай бұрын
@@IItsIgor ofcourse man, feel free to use any of my clips I don't mind.
@MeesaBack
@MeesaBack 7 ай бұрын
Nice work on the video dude!
@Kouka2204
@Kouka2204 7 ай бұрын
Very informative, loved the video.
@croacx
@croacx 6 ай бұрын
That was very interesting, thank you
@Mohamedsayed-vs9no
@Mohamedsayed-vs9no 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Although I think your voice was a little hard to hear over the background music/attack sounds in some spots so maybe try making it a bit louder.
@ytygk5340
@ytygk5340 2 ай бұрын
yeah and maybe subtitles would help
@MrGreysnake
@MrGreysnake 6 ай бұрын
Great video though I admit a lot of the tech went over my head XD. I’ve always been curious how boss ai works, esp for ISS. They way he can switch up his attacks makes replaying it so fun
@zuhayrmohammed2849
@zuhayrmohammed2849 7 ай бұрын
No way voiced igor video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 7 ай бұрын
yes, honey
@DarkBlyght
@DarkBlyght 3 ай бұрын
@IItsIgor nice video, but the recovery guard where you stumble back after a hard hit how many frame does it have? I saw that there a big start up delay for that one
@RustysGhost
@RustysGhost 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! As someone who's not quite up with the tech jargon I think I barely kept up with the concepts. Maybe once you've broken down a concept show what that means/looks like in the gameplay so we can link what you just said to what it looks like 😊
@Benissy
@Benissy 7 ай бұрын
i gyatt to play sekiro again
@stranger_that_sees_you
@stranger_that_sees_you 7 ай бұрын
kinda makes me wonder if the fan parry works differently since it seems like the most reliable way of parrying floating passage
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 7 ай бұрын
Umbrella has 24 frames on open, and 48 on spin. Deflecting with it does not build stages
@Taipan278
@Taipan278 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, I think (?) I understand a lot more about Sekiro now. Just had two questions: 1) Why is the 10-hit flurry from Centipede NOT a problematic attack? Is the attack speed just too slow to trigger the issue? 2) Is it possible to release a public mod for the game to avoid entering the 4th stage (or maybe leaving some deflect frames on the 4th stage)?
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 6 ай бұрын
1. centipede attacks hit at an interval of ~316ms, which is just enough for accepting the input to guard. 2. The explanation of stages is true for first input, not consecutives (my mistake in the video, pinned comment explains the consecutive deflect). I have created a small mod to address this sort of thing (along with other oddities) www.nexusmods.com/sekiro/mods/1917
@Taipan278
@Taipan278 6 ай бұрын
@@IItsIgor thank you!
@calebandrewgalicha118
@calebandrewgalicha118 6 ай бұрын
what if i like press the guard button and release as i soon as i can, will the deflect animation still be 15 frames?
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 6 ай бұрын
if you mean like double inputting, guard then you can get 12 + 6 frames with maybe a frame or 2 between due to human error. As for inputting after a deflect, I've made a couple errors, so its worth reading the pinned comment.
@rEHTst
@rEHTst 3 ай бұрын
am I the only one who is surprised by how Inner owl used mist raven 6 times in a row @03:29, on a serious note very nice video, was an interesting watch. and some things that I would be curious about is why some of the attacks have multiple hitbox such as Owl's chasing slice if deflected at close range or Juzou's hand attack or Armored warrior, or why does your posture break even if you deflect if you are on Poison during GSO fight.
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 2 ай бұрын
Owl's has 8 DL10 (sword drag animation) hitboxes which last 1 frame each (last one is 2 frames). Juzou has DL10 hitboxes which last 3 frames each. Armored warrior has a body hitbox which happens after you deflect the DL10 (presumably its intended purpose is to destroy terrain, but it has posture damage, which can cause stuff like that). DL10 doesnt accept your block input for 1 full second, which means you cant deflect, so you end up blocking the other attack(s). As for poison, it might just be fromsoft jank, I'm honestly not sure. Oh and big thanks for watching!
@squirrelfart275
@squirrelfart275 7 ай бұрын
This information will surely be huge for my Jidao DB/CL clear :clueless: Anyways, good video with some pretty insightful info
@mooxsir
@mooxsir 3 ай бұрын
Jasuga---> Just guard
@Victorlnc
@Victorlnc 7 ай бұрын
Igor, my beloved 🥺 thx for the tutorial, f*ck autodeflect mod xdd
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 7 ай бұрын
Yuh, hopefully it makes it easier to expose autodeflect users
@dreambokek
@dreambokek 7 ай бұрын
Raise your mik volume bc I can't hear you over the gameplay footage. Good vid tho 👍
@matalayu
@matalayu 7 ай бұрын
Rad.
@chinmayhota8983
@chinmayhota8983 2 ай бұрын
So, If I spam deflect, can I add those speffects one by one, essentially giving me 12+6+3 frames on parry window? Because speffect always happens at the very beginning.
@justsomeotherguywithamusta6810
@justsomeotherguywithamusta6810 2 ай бұрын
No. The first deflect has 12. The second has 6 and third 3. The franes are inside the animation. Meaning the animation takes X amount of frames only 12 of them are deflection. If you spam basically it's harder to deflect
@chinmayhota8983
@chinmayhota8983 2 ай бұрын
@@justsomeotherguywithamusta6810 But If I play my cards right, I can combine the 12 + 6 + 3 all together right? because they are always at the beginning.
@IItsIgor
@IItsIgor 2 ай бұрын
@@chinmayhota8983 no, since it takes 200ms (12 frames) before you can input for the next deflecting animation, so you end up having "dead zones" with no deflect frames.
@chinmayhota8983
@chinmayhota8983 2 ай бұрын
@@IItsIgor Thank you for the answer!
@Victor_StudentOfFloppa
@Victor_StudentOfFloppa 7 ай бұрын
@LongNotes
@LongNotes Ай бұрын
Yo, very informative video. I also read the pinned comment, i kind of understand I think how it works, but I didn't get what happens when you are in the air. Can you or anyone explain or redirect me somewhere the air deflections are different from the normal ones ? Thank you
@asdsadasdadsadsaa5432
@asdsadasdadsadsaa5432 6 ай бұрын
lil bro did a whole vsauce type tutorial video and have not posted it on "mods-media"😭😭😭
@pyrex7520
@pyrex7520 7 ай бұрын
Talk louder im almost there 😩
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