Sekiryu - The new overpowered japanese super carrier is the last thing that the game needed

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[@peterbayne7227]

"If everything is OP, then nothing is OP, and the game will be balanced!" - Wargaming, probably.

[@paullagarde7388]

everyone's in an OP super ship and then there's me in my fletcher, wondering what the hell happened.

[@rizkisoekartono454]

Well comrade in the future the super Nakhimov gonna be wild

[@Pepega_Ch]

So it'll have 14 AP+HE skip bombers as the tactical squadron. _Cant wait to see that happen too_

[@torpedosoup128]

Imagine thinking that Nakhimov is the best Carrier...

[@Pepega_Ch]

@@torpedosoup128 then what? Malta?

[@Kvomii]

@@torpedosoup128 regarding t10 cvs.... it most likely is.

[@ImRandomDude]

11:15- 12:03 "AA will prevent repeated CV attacks with one squadron." played with same tier BB like it was 2 tier lower food

[@moschedajan11]

Just when I stumbled over a Cossack video and I thought "Ah, good ol times, maybe take that beauty out for a spin" I watched this video and now it's a nice relaxed session of Crusader Kings 3 - thanks for saving me from the frustration of current wows

[@RobbertLobik]

I mean.. Cossack would be safe from this thing.. My Alaska however.. :(

[@jugaloking69dope58]

I'm still looking for a new game. old wot beta guy. enlisted has got my attention but its still a shooter game!?

[@Clefairy4007]

@@jugaloking69dope58 Europa Universalis 4 is an awesome historical game.

[@Clefairy4007]

@@RobbertLobik Nothing is safe komrad...

[@Bigbacon]

love how the jet rocket planes work just like the rockets used to. no wait time just boom.

[@domidomi917]

It's still longer wait time then before. In the past it was near instantly after pressing the mouse. but now with these jets it's 1.5s if I saw the timer correctly on the left of the reticle

[@jugaloking69dope58]

@@domidomi917 like that matters! when your slave to the rudder shift!

[@rowinglove4ever]

That 2 turbojet planes that drop 4 ijn torps is the last thing you want! For t9 bbs

[@flallana18]

Sekiryu (red dragon) vs Hakuryuu (white dragon)… feels like a certain long standing rivalry is coming to the game

[@iron8586]

Gotta love the fact that it's a stream upload with 0 commentary in the niche of streaming

[@MrJeffro56]

It must be hard for you to play these carriers. But to be trueful it seems like it is fun to play. A good solution would be to limit how far a plane could fly from the ship, thus making the carrier come in closer to the action. All you have to do now is sit at the back of the map and fly across the entire playing area. And of course spot everyone for your teammates. But the 10K per torp was obscene. GG!

[@noob4life1981]

A good solution would be actual working AA...

[@malamutekid8871]

now that's an interesting idea! maybe there should be a fuel gauge that runs out, limiting the range of your aircraft. It's not a replacement for more effective AA, but it's an idea I haven't seen or thought of before

[@fdmct]

@@malamutekid8871 that’s a great idea. Then they can’t circle and spot you all game

[@HybridRenoII]

The name.... SHOULD'VE BEEN SHINANO The REAL First Super Carrier built from a Yamato Hull (Historically existed)

[@Edi_J]

Dude, WeeGees with their fantasies are long after the step when they need to enter the nuclear carrier era. Jet aircraft, rocket attacks vs large warships. Those sovietophilic fanatics started with 1950+ ships because ze mighti red fleet didn't have anything else and now they actually are at 1970 mark. For some reason though they hesitate to introduce Red Octobers, nuclear carrier strike groups and clouds of cruising missiles swarming the sky. And once this was so nice WW1-WW2 "naval artillery game". But no, fuken russian nationalists could not stand that communists didn't build basically ANYTHING before 1950.

[@BENNO117]

The Shinano carried very few planes and was only intended to resupply fleet carriers.

[@Edi_J]

@@BENNO117 Shinano could carry 80-95 ready-to-fly planes, so it is more than an Essex-class could. Hence definitely it is not "very few" and "only intended". That the Japanese problem in 1944 was lack of pilots, blocked supply routes and large ship resistance to air attacks - was completely another issue. Of course, a Yamato-size ship could've carried much more planes if built as a carrier from the start or if the conversion had started earlier. But they used armored spaces to install protected fuel tanks instead. Was it a "super-carrier"? Ask the WeeGees. They seem to define their own classification, based on "sikrit archivez".

[@BattleshipWarspite]

Shinano isn't a Supercarrier Historical Fact. She will never fit games.

[@recarunu868]

HONEST OPINION - There is no last ship "to be needed" in such online games like war gaming. They develop more and more overpowered ships as the time passes. Otherwise, their income source will not be flowing 'cause players are settled and nothing more to spend to get a better item. But at least this is true that some of the superships will have a long-term impact in excellent battle performance.

[@BinkyTheElf1]

Behold the hat! Warm comfortable Trenlass ensues.

[@grayshadow2597]

Imagine a game with 3 sekiryuu in one team and 3 other super ship in the other(no CV / annapolis).

[@verrezen]

You saying how OP these things are, just drives up sales for WG. Just say they are shite and see WG burn. ;)

[@tonyennis1787]

Those ships should just dodge the torpedoes.

[@HP4L16]

That Hindy must have enjoyed getting torped for 36K and not having any time to turn because the planes are so fast.

[@rustyzipper19]

The jets remind us why IJN CVs should only drop two torpedoes per run

[@Pavlovsobaka]

Flambass gonna love this

[@Mirrodin82]

After all this time I still think that old cv gameplay (RTS style) was better. Don't know why they did this.

[@Over_Hard]

Yes.😢

[@KaguyasBeat]

The Satsuma is a prime example of why CVs are so dumb. Guy was doing everything he could to "just dodge" but it doesn't matter. Wasn't doing anything meaningful to the planes to dissuade attack either so Trenlass gets 4 drops off flying around in AA for a whole minute nbd. How many planes were lost? Three. Seriously: I can't believe people are dumb enough to defend this shit. But that is the unfortunate state of WoWs at this point. You play knowing you're likely to have to deal with this.

[@joca1378]

the crate simulator

[@smw211]

Is the the first completely fake planes too? the Shinden, while real, wasn't a jet.

[@juankovacs6033]

Poor Satsuma, he couldn't do anything about it. And 36k on hindy with 4 torps, 10k per rocket salvo, 10k per torpedo... lol

[@DrSid42]

It would be the same with Haku though ..

[@juankovacs6033]

@@DrSid42 oh I wasn't saying is too much dmg, I was just recounting it

[@rowinglove4ever]

If you want to play super ship satsuma, so you can delete poor cruisers with 510mm overmach! The pay back period is coming for you! Super carriers will Fack every available hole!

[@nailed2ax_126]

After playing 7 years a dnever playing CV, I am now, new cv main coming

[@LabeLincoln]

CVs are worse on console. Maps are smaller and fewer ships for CV to attack. CVs have all but made DDs useless on console. Then more and more people use them because "if I'm going to be continuously match against CVs, I might as well be the person in the CV". Then before you know it, 80% of match have a CV and the issue is just compounded by newer players who can't or refuse to learn to play DD, Cruiser, of BB. Something has to be done, a CV doesn't have to risk damage to their ship to affect the game. I propose that anytime the CVs planes are in the air, their ship will be spotted, even during a return. So if you recall plane then immediately send more, your ship will always be spotted. Also I want control over my AA(I want to aim and shoot them). I propose being able to control the AA, but main guns and torpedoes can't be fired while in "manual mode". Ooooooooor, allow me to mod my ship to the match during the loading screen. I shouldn't have to chose between mods for killing ships vs mods for killing planes(its called world of warships, not world of war planes).....just do something please.

[@saffira35]

Its all about draining Credits from the game. More and more overpowerd T11, which mostly cost credits to play AND are expensive. Eagle, United States and now Sekiryu.. for what? WG is no longer interested in any balance

[@kena4977]

Pay to win except it has been my experience that the worst players play them and drag their teams into defeat.

[@berserker4940]

Were they ever interested in balance?

[@6th_Army]

They had actually built a super carrier. The worlds first supper carrier at that. Why not use that instead?!

[@Pepega_Ch]

Because wg is too dented to even care about that

[@beherith2874]

And that carrier would have had a smaller strike force than other smaller (by displacement) fleet carriers

[@6th_Army]

@@beherith2874 At least it existed.

[@beherith2874]

@@6th_Army A beautiful ship. It sure did exist unlike… 95% of T10

[@BattleshipWarspite]

​@@6th_ArmyShinano isn't Supercarrier, wasn't even proper Aircraft carrier, will comes to World of warships, Even Light Carrier are stronger then Shinano.

[@vincentvalentine2198]

Petro full AA now lol

[@Carly1405]

OOF? ordier of fortuna? Hey maybe I Will Come back, long time ago I was in RM and we moved to OOF, used to be main CV player in cw, getting used to It again

[@ainzooalgown7589]

even though its OP, its still doesnt make up for bad teammates

[@mr.skully8787]

Next update Weegee adds the focking death star

[@luke_3_113]

This looks like it will be so much fun when I am up-tiered against it!

[@mcbrite]

I want at least 2 years of SOLID crying by CV-players after the AA-rework goes live... Anything less will not be enough.

[@Clefairy4007]

Why am I watching CV gameplay?😵

[@berserker4940]

Playing a carrier is like player VS ai. There no counter play. There is no risk to your own ship. How is any of this fun beyond a brief power trip?

[@bowlerhatclan9209]

This is why I only play tier 5-6

[@noob4life1981]

Hooray! Even more skycancer!

[@subarusumeragi899]

what exactly is overpowered for this ship? The special planes are pretty much useless, so it's mainly a Hakuryu with more hp

[@trenlass809]

the special torp squad is strong, haku is already broken on tier 10 and this is just improving it even more

[@GavenYurisich-nu5zn]

Double medical

[@ukchris64]

I want this, simply just to have it, can't play CV for shit

[@rokko1020]

this game is beyond broken at this point

[@markoviitanen2671]

Super CV Security!

[@Ocean-Jay]

How do people still play this game?

[@ted5567]

If you whiners think that cvs are op check modern warships and grow balls.

[@Metallica4Life92]

What is even AA at this point lol

[@godlynewbie]

basically use this to get the hate off subs lol

[@jugaloking69dope58]

less ships more maps. where are all the new maps? the artists are working on? more players mean more money not just same players more ships!?

[@muyangcheng3874]

plot twist: wows and wargaming is going bankrupt with all the money they are making so sekiryu will indeed be the last thing the game releases

[@berserker4940]

Why do you drop bombs in the water not trying to hit ships before you attack the ships?

[@robertshaver4432]

He's saving aircraft for later by returning them back to his CV so he doesn't run out of aircraft that are ready to fly.

[@berserker4940]

@@robertshaver4432 Interesting. Why does the airwing launch with that many aircraft in the first place then?

[@robertshaver4432]

@@berserker4940 If there's not any major threatening AA then the options open to make more attack runs with a full squadron. I play strong AA destroyers so he would die before the 3rd attack for sure so he's better off just depleting his squadron to save some ready aircraft. IDK... that's the best that I can fathom. I'm not a CV player.

[@berserker4940]

@@robertshaver4432 Ok thanks. That actually makes sense to me. Full AA build gigachad recognized. Death to CV

[@jasonbrewer6714]

@@berserker4940 It both saves some squads for later and it allows to "skip" faster to the enemy. its like the speed boost planes get but a pseudo version of it. That's to my knowledge what it is, I'm no CV player tbh.

[@annuvynarawn392]

hardly OP, average sort of damage done on that map and killed before the end by a DD snipe. add to that the 400,000 + credit repair and supply bill and the super carriers do not have much impact in the game. really good cv players are hitting 300k damage in tech tree ships so nothing has changed

[@martyincanuckistan3635]

This was painful to watch that Des Moines player must love you 😂 this things obscene

[@israelballew4155]

I just got TRASHED by this cv. Had to come see how broken it really is. Wargaming is so disconnected from their playerbase its not even funny. They ruined tanks, now they will do the same with ships.

[@MrAlbutiu]

👏.

[@Pepega_Ch]

That's quite a tragic game. I hope you had better ones, trenlass Also, every time I want to play t9 in random, I always ask 1 of my divmates to play t10 CV because at least I can avoid being fucked even harder by superCV

[@Mithril_Antimarr]

get them to play t8 cv, will eliminate all superships

[@Pepega_Ch]

@@Mithril_Antimarr lol no, I don't want to drag them to t11. That would be tragic

[@ragw33d]

super cv are worse then OP they are game breaking nothing worse being in a tier 9 battleship and its a super CV game but i think the tier +2 is worst thing they changed all because they are losing player numbers

[@savagewombat6949]

JEEZUSSS - watching CV play is sooo boring! next please........

[@ruffianeo3418]

Best part of it is that all those supership tier 12 players whine about the tier 9 iowa lol. When I play tier 9 in such a matchup I simply go suicide with style and get on with my life, because I consider it a bug/oversight, that this match making exists.

[@winter_soldier_ymb8630]

Cvs

[@winter_soldier_ymb8630]

i thought CVs hardcounter DDs so hard... Gröningen ez hunts him down... wow hop OP are CVs ;)

[@solidtoto]

@@winter_soldier_ymb8630 are you drunk?

[@kennkoala]

CV hypocrite

[@ThePooppantsman]

I love CVs and I hope they never remove them. Ever.

[@Kvomii]

If that wasn't sarcasm I'd recommend you pray to the lords that I never meet you in person.

[@ThePooppantsman]

@@Kvomii i was speaking 100% truth. To add to that my favorite class in WoT was arty before they destroyed the game