Self Defense?? Only Fans Model Goes to Trial for Murdering Boyfriend

Use code LEEJA60 to get 60% off your first Factor box at bit.ly/3TO0ucm! The trial of Courtney Tailor Clenney has gotten a lot of attention because it is so controversial. Was she really acting in self defense? Who was the abuser? We'll talk about all this and more as we break down this tragic and complex case.
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[@LeejaMiller]

It has come to my attention that my tone was really sassy when I was talking about instagram models and OF creators and I’m so sorry that comes across as incredibly condescending. OF is real work, so is content creation. I just am genuinely confused what makes someone an “instagram model” and it came out as really condescending. Plz kno it’s not how I meant it and s*x work is real work. Carry on.

[@bethulrich5406]

"sex work is real work"-Ohhhh PLEAAASE!!!🙄🙄🙄😆🤣--NOT Hardly.

[@ssjalpha6593]

@@bethulrich5406 facts

[@UlisesHeureaux]

I don't think you were sassy or offensive at all. You're amazing!

[@LVSwift]

It is real work, you are such a troll

[@Iuxinterior]

you just talked the way you always talk

[@kimielle]

Surviving domestic abuse and talking to the police really shifted my perspective on law enforcement. My (now) ex had woken me up with a knife against my eyeball, babbling incoherently about some plot to kill him. When I managed to get him off me and grab a phone he slapped it out of my hands. I started screaming at that point and my next door neighbour, bless her, called the police. When the cops did show up they saw my hysterical ass, his calm demeanour, and believed his story that I had 'freaked out on him due to hormones'. I was given a warning not to call police for no reason again (reminder here that my NEIGHBOUR called) and made to go back inside while the boys had a chat about how 'crazy' I was. When people say "oh my brother/uncle/canary is a cop and he's a good guy" I think back to stories people in my family told about cops having to deal with 'crazy' women and how my story probably is among those.

[@meganjones3547]

Police need to have DV training and screenings because that's beyond unacceptable

[@Kristiekins2]

I'm so sorry that happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story, this is a real issue and there's an insane amount of people in these comments siding with the police.

[@boybriar]

It’s such a broken system I’m so sorry that happened to you and I hope you’re doing better now 💕

[@genghisghost]

you do sound crazy though

[@taylorbug9]

I'm never letting someone get away with that in conversation again 🤬 I'm so mad that happened to you!

[@emmyjulianne6850]

I was in an abusive situation once where I was able to get away and I was so scared I threw my phone in the middle of the street bc I didn’t want him to find a way to track me and come after me…I was so scared. He called the police and said I was suicidal and they drove around looking for me. I was walking to my moms when they put their lights on and found me. They asked what was going on and as soon as I said “boyfriend” I was cut off and the cops laughed and said “oh okay it all makes sense now” and then went on to talk about how “crazy their wives are.” It was shocking to say the least.

[@providence9481]

That must’ve felt so abandoning. So scary.

[@marnenotmarnie259]

holy shit dude :((

[@barijade]

I am a survivor of domestic abuse in a homosexual relationship and I understand that fear, truly. What truly got me all the way fucked up was the cops. They completely talked down to her like she was just a crazy woman and didn't take that disturbance situation seriously at all and it was just another case of cops downplaying a situation that truly needed to be taken seriously. With the amount of times I've heard in true crime stories of the cops not taking issues seriously and ending up like this or much, much worse is absolutely astronomical to me. Then a harsh crime occurs from their neglect and they get no repercussions whatsoever and it actually infuriates me.

[@hardtakeoff]

You're a gay man and you are surprised that the police are lazy, work-avoidant, minimizing, downplay actual crime to get out of dealing with it, and generally abusive to just about anyone not a white male?

[@AirQuotes]

Cops only want to help dead victims

[@seitanbeatsyourmeat666]

Cops only enforce laws… *we need better laws that are for the people* and not geared towards capitalism and capitalist because that’s the truth. Basically, police protect property, not people Also, I’m sorry you were in that situation and glad you’re a survivor ❤️ I’ve been there, it’s horrible

[@mpn304]

What did you expect the cops to do?

[@bethulrich5406]

BULLLL SH IT.--ITS NOT THE Cops fault that she was abusive-hitting name calling and stabbed someone.--are u high!???

[@FloraWest]

I had a similar encounter with cops after being assaulted. I guess I wasn't assaulted enough for them to really care. They were not at all compassionate and really poor about explaining what filing a report meant or not, etc. One was genuinely trying not to laugh. They did all they could to talk me out of pursuing action. It took a lot to want to call them in the first place because ACAB and all that and they certainly didn't change my mind on that front. (Not looking for advice here-we later filed a report after another woman in our neighborhood was a victim of attempted assault by the same guy.)

[@its-MK...]

I'm so sorry. I understand (sadly from personal experience). My ex was one of those charming sociopaths that was always very buddy-buddy/bitches-be- crazy with the cops... & everyone else (diagnosed sociopath for the record). Agreed. ACAB. His second wife just left him- she was a lawyer. I really hope karma gets him because the police won't.

[@bethulrich5406]

Not All Police are like that,-as in ANY Profession,-you got yer Good ones and u got yer shitty ones. Stay Up🙏❤️

[@kaboomblueskies]

Cops are low life dregs. There is no situation they cannot make worse.

[@taylorbug9]

I was assaulted and the cops told me I couldn't do anything because I poked her in the chest before she assaulted me. I literally just poked her but in America that's reason enough for someone to beat you up, bite you, and rip your hair out.

[@taylorbug9]

​@@bethulrich5406Really not the place or time for that conversation. Especially considering the extremely high number of bad apples in the system and repeated documented cases of the good apples being ejected from the force for doing the right thing.

[@LiminalQueenMedia]

As a survivor of domestic abuse, being in that situation will drive your own behaviors in ways that are irrational and unhealthy. I just hate the mess tbh

[@Shockwave_MD]

i agree. it's horrible and it sometimes gets out of hand really fast.

[@mpn304]

Ask Jonny deep how is feels to be a victim of a violent partner

[@Kat-kc1hy]

@@mpn304 you mean wife-beater johnny depp? the one that is violent towards his employees and is an overall dick? sure 🙄

[@mpn304]

@@Kat-kc1hy Not the most intelligent response.. Jonny was a victim of a narcissist violent wife! And the trail showed that extremely clearly. But it sounds like you have made up your own version

[@Kat-kc1hy]

@@mpn304 nothing i said in my comment is false. calling him a wife-beater is not incorrect, you can check the UK trial for that. and just recently, after the amber v depp trial, he got sued because he was violent towards a staff member, and he ended up paying him to drop the charges. also, it's "trial", not "trail", just fyi

[@maebloome]

Can the police be investigated for any failure of duty on the night the employee calls them? Absolutely shocking that an uninvolved civilian reported a threat of danger, and the policeman later asks her, "what makes you think you were in danger?", and refuses to signpost her to even the most basic resources in place for that situation. That policeman could have saved Christians life 🤷

[@alexwyatt2911]

My jaw dropped open when the officer asked her why she felt like she was in danger. Two people had just spent _awhile_ explaining exactly how and why she was in danger. Just mind numbing

[@superluminary9047]

Police do not have a duty to protect any individual against harm was the ruling from Warren vs District of Columbia. So, nope! "Protect and serve" is the "Live, Laugh, Love" of police. What are police for you ask? With a few notable exceptions, most police forces in the US were formed to round up escaped slaves. Their overall purpose has not changed, to protect the interests of the wealthy elite.

[@bridgetcooney5085]

The police don't actually have a duty to stop crime. It's been decided by the supreme court multiple times. Makes you wonder what they're even for. And the answer is, protecting capital.

[@greywolf7577]

Christian clearly was in more danger than she was ever in. I wish people would care as much about male victims of domestic abuse as they do about female victims.

[@taylorbug9]

​@@greywolf7577Do you know why people don't? Because often times it's the man who is the aggressor. Don't forget that not that long ago in human history, women weren't even allowed to leave abusive men and it was seen as okay to hit your wife. My Grandma, who is in her 80s, has lift through both school segregation and women not being allowed to have their own bank account. The united states did not mandate the bank's had to offer their services to women until the 1960's! There are a lot of abusive men that have had their lives ended by the women they abused for far too long. That doesn't make them a victim. It means they were served justice. You don't have the right to abuse someone. And if you keep doing it, you invite this possibility of being murdered in self defense.

[@Kb-gh2rk]

I’m so thankful you approached this from a perspective of nuance and understanding that DA/DV cases are not always cut and dry. It’s not always one person who is solely the aggressor and abuser etc. things can get very very messy very quickly. In toxic relationships that include physical violence things can go from screaming to death very quickly in the right circumstances when it’s least expected and it’s truly horrific and sad. It seems like there are several layers to this relationship and things were sadly very complicated and messy. Only the two of them will ever truly know what happened through their relationship and the night of the death. Please, if anyone out there is struggling with an abusive or otherwise toxic relationship please reach out for help. People and resources exist for you. I know it’s not easy, I know it can be painful, scary, sad, heartbreaking, and so much more. But no relationship is worth your life or your sanity and no one wants to see you in a situation like this no matter what end of the knife you’re on. You deserve happiness and SAFETY. Edit: I like when you cover these types of cases that most people shy away from in the legal world due to the nature of the charges. I think it’s important these are spoken about from a legal perspective that carries enough empathy to understand whilst not being overly bias or calling out your personal biases where they come into affect. Much love ❤

[@43v3rh1d3n]

exatly. my southern belle grandma always said "what happened was between them and god". we dont know and probably wont know

[@zeynepgulsu1899]

allways one person agressor, allways, you all just wanna blame women.

[@alexwyatt2911]

@@zeynepgulsu1899 I think you’re oversimplifying by insisting that any interpersonal dynamic is “always” anything. However, I will say that in domestic violence, mutual violence is often mistaken for mutual abuse. Domestic violence has been studied for many years in many countries. And, overwhelmingly, the studies have examined domestic violence in cishet romantic relationships. As a result of these studies, we know that violence by women is almost always done in self defense-even in a particular interaction when the woman may (technically) initiate the violence, it’s usually done to defend or ward off previous or ongoing abuse/violence from their partner. The elevator video could be a good example of this. The woman was fleeing from him, he pursues her, and he successfully manages to force her into an enclosed space with him. Without context, one could view this video and believe she was the aggressor or abuser in the relationship because she appeared to initiate the violence. However, she most likely was reacting to the ongoing attack that she was likely fleeing. He was exerting control over her and she was fighting back. I’m not condoning, defending, or praising any action. I’m merely examining the larger picture. One of the simplest points that speaks to the truth behind the complexity of domestic violence is what happens when the couple is separated. When a heterosexual couple experiencing domestic violence is separated-relationship is ending and they’re living apart-it is rare for men to experience any further violence. In direct contrast, this time period is traditionally the most dangerous for women. The abuser is being deprived of their victim and they seek to regain control and/or punish their victim (too often, the punishment proves lethal for women). In this reality alone, we can see that (almost always) the violence has distinctly different motivations for women and men. One is defensive and reactive while the other is calculated and abusive.

[@zeynepgulsu1899]

@@alexwyatt2911 Only you can see the larger picture, we are blind, keep showing it.

[@its-MK...]

@@zeynepgulsu1899 I totally disagree. I was a victim of very one sided (& horrific) abuse for a decade of my life. But I still recognize that it's not always as clear as a good guy & a bad guy. It's usually much more complex. You're naive as hell if you think good people don't do bad things sometimes. This conversation is not solely putting the blame on women. You'd know that if you watched more of Leeja's videos.

[@cadencecisneros5360]

How can she claim self defense and then say she threw the knife A CROSS the room and hit him? How is that defending herself?

[@terrav717]

As a nurse and someone who has used a device to drill into people bones for IV access and also used needles to decompress a chest, I can say without a doubt it takes some force to go INTO the sternum (the bone itself). I guess I would have to look to see if its the actual sternum bone or the intercostal spaces (spaces between the ribs).

[@hellaSwankkyToo]

if she made it through the sternum 🤯🤯 uhhh wow.

[@User-pw3pu]

I've thrown knives before. If true it was a 1 in a billion throw, but wouldn't throwing a knife make self defense less likely?

[@FabiolaMacabre]

Yeah there’s no way she just threw it at him and got him

[@PamelaBowsArt]

Maybe he charged her again?

[@10-AMPM-01]

@@User-pw3pu Thrown knife is the same as a fired bullet... so no. But it does show that she was not entirely truthful. She admitted to causing the knife to penetrate his body, but not truthful about how she did it. There was a pattern of her not being believed; so there was pressure for her to change her story to cause police to finally believe her. Some victims, when they are rebuffed enough times, will try to make their story more compelling / hide guilt. She didn't know how to get police / LEO to believe she was the victim of an abusive and cunning narcissist.

[@sweetb2750]

I’m glad you said the part about the abuser using the police to gain more control and ammo.it’s exactly what happened to me and he used shame for another year afterward because I did feel guilty. The class I had to take for my case told me about this type of abuse and showed me the abuse circle that was crazy similar to what happened. The cops didn’t even speak to me when I was arrested, just handcuffed me and put me in the back. It was one of the things that helped receive minimum fees and abuse classes thst taught me about reactive abuse.

[@LoSkip]

I saw an in-depth video from Stephanie Harlowe about this one and MAN is it messy. I would love to hear more about it as things are uncovered and explored. The serious problem here that really gets me (and I know I'm not alone here) is the cops. Whether she abused him or he abused her or they took turns abusing one another, it doesn't change the fact she stood there and asked for help. The response she got only reinforces the way most people feel about reporting SA/DV. Why should any of us seek help from authorities if they are just going to tell you to go away essentially. It's such a sad system and it fails people constantly. I was once in an abusive relationship and never even seriously thought about asking for help from anyone specifically because of instances like this.

[@SterlingSMtr]

There is a video of her on a podcast where she self proclaimed being a Toxic Girlfriend.

[@katilynwhitson3105]

She has a 3rd party account - the lobby manager - that she was attempting to get away and separate herself and he still made efforts to come after her in a physical manner in which others felt they needed to step in. She then was immediately recorded by police as saying she feared for her safety and wanted to know how to obtain a restraining order. I have no idea how someone would be able to make a 100% judgement that she is the primary abuser after that. Even with the elevator video, she is clearly trying to escape from him like he's a predator. The person doing the running away is almost never the abuser.

[@mattbell5602]

No, she wanted to get a restraining order FIRST (knowing that he was pursuing one). She’s an entitled nut.

[@greywolf7577]

But I think the point is that if he had been trying to get away from her and then killed her with a knife, people would still consider him a murderer. She is getting far more benefit of the doubt than he would ever get if he had killed her.

[@juliennecordy5111]

@@mattbell5602 THANK YOU! I don't understand how so many people over looked that

[@audreynelson3997]

oh look the police not doing their job and failing yet another victim of domestic defense

[@hannahalexander5086]

But they absolutely need and deserve all the funding they get and more! No need to defund the police in favor licensed mental health professionals, they’re doing great 🫠

[@audreynelson3997]

@@hannahalexander5086 so great 😅

[@greywolf7577]

If the boyfriend had killed the girlfriend, no one would care that he was the victim of domestic abuse. It seems like only women are given the right to kill in these situations. It's a disturbing double standard.

[@Blackwellcole123]

The reason I watch you over other certain male lawyers on KZbin 👀 is because you always approach things in a way that allows understanding of the nuances in the situation and how complicated relationships and lives are. I’ll be honest, I arrived here from the drag race reviews, but you could stop doing those and just keep doing videos like this and I’ll continue to sit here and watch every single one. 💖💖

[@laincoubert7236]

girl same i started with leeja's reaction to UNHhhh "Crime" and i was like she has taste and i need more of this content lol. leeja's a gem

[@segamai]

Same. She lured me in with UNHhhh and now I can’t leave

[@shannon7646]

saaaame. also, i stan an ACAB-believing left-leaning lawyer

[@jakestroll6518]

Except there’s omissions to enhance that “complexity”. Like how she made two 6 minute calls to her mum as he lay bleeding and then called 911. In the 911 call you can hear him moaning. He was alive as she spoke to her mum. And there’s audio of her screaming at him over multiple occasions including one time calling him the worst racial slur because he bumped into her friend and didn’t mention it. Sometimes you’re just looking at a monster.

[@PamelaBowsArt]

Same re: drag race and leeja’s nuanced take.

[@arasharfa]

Thank you for your work! as someone who has been threatened and falsely accused by mental health workers while I was forcefully detained I would love to hear your points about the legal aspect around the rights and responsibilities concerning psychiatric care.

[@PamelaBowsArt]

Leeja, if you ever do this and need a childrens mental health perspective/ run down of issues, I work in childrens mental health policy

[@rustomkanishka]

What you went through sounds painful.

[@joshb7326]

I tried really hard to see it from your perspective, but goodness you were giving her a very favorable look and im sorry I lost you. I just watch the bond hearing and the evidence continues to get worse for her. Texts between them show he was stabbed in the chin and the leg on seperate occasions which she admits

[@mattbell5602]

Yeah, I watched most of the interrogation and she seems like an entitled piece of work.

[@devinnewbyart]

Agree. There was a lot of “I’m not going to get into that” when it came to a lot of things highlighting the victim as…well, a victim, but a LOT of time dedicated to aspects that made the woman who stabbed a knife 3 inches into the victim’s chest, through his sternum, look like a victim. Ultimately though, I do lean on the side of cutting her a break for her take here, because what she was saying about victims in domestic violence and abusive relationships IS true. I imagine that as a woman and a lawyer, these topics are something that she can speak on more than most and share the nuance and complexities in a light that aren’t widely known or talked about. So I did appreciate that aspect; however, juxtaposing all of the “woman who are being abused” when talking about the woman versus talking about all of the abuser behavior talking about the man who was killed definitely was a little…pointed? As if she was implying those things applied in this case (even if she said ‘I’m not saying that’s the case here, but…’ afterward). Maybe it was just the structure and flow chosen that made me feel soke type of way, but I didn’t feel nearly as much impartiality or “unsuredness” that she said she had in the beginning. Idk, just missed the mark on this one for me, but I’m sure others would say the exact opposite for a version of this video that I would feel like would be more “balanced.” Still a great creator with good content either way! Can’t win em all! 😂🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

There's a difference between being favorable and not willing to jump to conclusions.

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

@@mattbell5602 Whether or not she's entitled is irrelevant.

[@mattbell5602]

@@ominous-omnipresent-they it explains her behavior…so…it’s absolutely relevant. What are you even talking about?

[@PearlsAnneHeels]

I guess my biggest question in this whole thing is how was she walking free if she admitted to the literal crime?? If roles were reversed it would be hard to believe that the cops finding her covered in her blood would have let him go home, much less alive. Not even being dramatic, I genuinely don’t understand how she was out eating dinner with her dad after that insane altercation.

[@Mcdun325]

We know why 😐

[@Eatbranandfeelokay]

It’s very possible that her father took her out for drinks to calm her down/talk things out/break her out of shock…

[@Eatbranandfeelokay]

@@Mcdun325…what do u mean exactly?

[@Mcdun325]

@@Eatbranandfeelokay I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in American white people, especially white women, are often, but not always, given the benefit of the doubt. And then Black people are often, but not always, guilty before being proven innocent, and the darker you are the worse it gets. So combine those two things, and that's why she gets to walk free for at least a little while, while if the roles were reversed bruh would've been thrown under the jail until his verdict.

[@redman2751]

@@Mcdun325 Exactly!!!! There's no equality in law enforcement. Yet everyone wants to be scream equality.

[@MillennialPawz]

He charged at her in an apartment lobby in front of witnesses. That right there makes it seem he was very comfortable with this kind of behavior. I honestly can't make heads or tails of this with the little facts out there, but the few facts I do know, I have to wonder how much of her behavior is really a symptom of "reactive abuse ". Also, I wish more of the world understood things like reactive abuse and power and control within DV. Ever since the Depp V. Heard case its quite apparent we need more DV education in this world. Thanks for taking time to include educational info about power and control. More people need to understand how power and control play out in DV. Great content. I love your channel.

[@UlisesHeureaux]

When did he charge at her in an apartment lobby in front of witnesses? If you want my opinion, both of these very young people had way too much money and little to no life experience. The levels of immaturity and toxicity in that relationship are beyond my comprehension!

[@amlus05]

@@UlisesHeureaux did you watch the video? Leeja included the cop's cam recording of the witness recounting this.

[@JL_Lux]

She wasn’t reactive in that elevator. Determined to make her a victim when there is no proof

[@amlus05]

@@JL_Lux the video of the elevator is a different incident. There's a witness in the lobby when they're talking to police who reported physically intervening after he charged at her.

[@greywolf7577]

The problem is that people only care about reactive abuse when it is a woman reacting to a man's abuse. If a man was reacting to a woman's abuse, he'd still be blamed. If the boyfriend had killed the girlfriend in this case, then people would not be giving him the benefit of the doubt that they give the girlfriend here.

[@Kraftbrew]

My wife and I used to live near some bars and restaurants in the Los Feliz/Silverlake area of Los Angeles. One Summer’s night, we were woken up around 1:30AM, by a couple arguing loudly on the street below our home. At first we were more annoyed than anything else, because they were loud. A few minutes later, the woman started yelling rape, and I immediately jumped up, called 911 and got dressed to go outside. My wife stayed at home with our baby and our dog. The couple seemed to be moving around our block, so when 911 asked the location, I told them the street names, but they insisted on an address, so I told them our address, but adamantly told them that the couple was not at this address, but somewhere around it and that they were on the move. As I left the house to attempt to get a better location, of the incident, I started to realize that the male was in a car, driving around the block, and the female was on foot, more or less following the car and periodically yelling rape. So, definitely not a rape. She was angry at the guy and was hurling the most damning thing she could think of, at him. She also threw some of our neighbor’s potted plants into the street. As the police car finally arrived, around 6-7 minutes later, the couple had rejoined another couple, near the bars, where I suspect the argument started, and the police drove right past them and headed straight to our address. At this point, the female got into the passenger side of the car and they drove away, with the other couple in their own separate vehicle. I made my way back to our house, as quickly as I could, to discover, to my horror, that the police had entered our house, with weapons drawn and found their way to the entrance of our bedroom! Luckily, our elderly dog, that was deaf, slept through the intruders, because she could have easily attacked them, which I’m sure would have provoked the cops into shooting. I see a lot of comments, here and on other similar posts, from women, talking about how people treated them as if they were lying or that they were, “crazy”. I get the frustration. I also have to say that couples in the throws of an argument do crazy things. women do sometimes behave irrationally and scream rape, when that’s not what was happening, as in this case. This was toxicity in a relationship where it looked like both of them were dishing out ugliness. Her decision to start screaming, “rape”, lead to a very dangerous situation that could have been a disaster, for us, just because we tried to come to the aid of a woman we thought was in danger. Leeja, you do a great job of illustrating how domestic violence is a very difficult thing to figure out who is the victim and who is the perpetrator. As you said, it definitely isn’t black and white, in the majority of instances. As my experience, shows, the dynamics of toxic relationships is inherently irrational and volatile. Because so much of what plays out happens when there are no other witnesses, a lot has to be inferred from bits of cryptic evidence, here and there. Clearly, women are killed, in abusive relationships, more often than men. That doesn’t mean men are never victims of abuse and even murder. Sometimes a woman claiming rape, is not rape, at all, as my experience, in this case, shows. The potential for really bad things to happen, is pretty clear. This situation is very sad and I don’t have much faith that the justice system will get to the truth.

[@noellemarie]

I love when you cover true crime 💜 other channels rarely, if ever, cover the legal nuances & it’s so fascinating!

[@basementdwellercosplay]

While I have no idea of how she should be charged, but I agree that the police weren't listening to her worries and getting her help. She clearly was angry cause she wanted help and no one was getting an answer as to what she can do to feel and be safe

[@eversbrooks7162]

there's also the issue of her being a model and onlyfans creator-- there's plenty of stigma against the beauty & sex work community and i'm sure that the police were so nasty to her because of her career-- i'm not saying she's innocent though, it seems like they were both pretty abusive to each other in many ways

[@ssjalpha6593]

The evidence is overwhelming, how irrational can you lot's hatred of men make you?

[@lostblueboy]

@@ssjalpha6593 how irrational can your hatred and prejudice of women and stigma of sex workers, make you? Life is not black and white, especially abuse and psychology...its a whole lot of grey. Unless you are a qualified dosmestic abuse expert or a qualified psychologist or a qualified attorney....how about you shut the fuck up? hm...can you do that? Maybe dont give your uneducated opinion, as if this is some sports penalty where its just either a yes or no and nothing in between.

[@Heyu7her3]

Idk how they would've known who she was unless they'd watched her discotheques on OnlyFans. Her look also isn't that unique to say "that's so-and-so". Cops are condescending in general, and these ones were even more, but it didn't seem like that was the reason (unless she specifically stated "I'm an OnlyFans content creator")

[@rustomkanishka]

Aye, and the courts are always fair to black people, right.

[@bbryant2503]

Wow. Y’all are really in here making excuses for her. Even with her actions after the murder….

[@bbryant2503]

Typical

[@yassine8935]

With the evidence at that point of the vid being made it was more favoring her ,

[@its-MK...]

I would definitely be interested in updates on this trial and other true crime cases. I appreciate that you don't gloss over the complexity of life or the law. 💜 Love your videos, as always. 👻

[@LecherousCthulhu]

I think the issue here is definitely that prosecutors are usually attempting to only send as many people to prison as possible. Because it plays well politically to do so. It also plays poorly if they don't push towards sending every possible person to prison

[@jakestroll6518]

A human being is dead. This is not bar brawl, a living breathing person with as much humanity as you is erased. This is the one situation where there absolutely must be a trial. The ease of dismissal of that life here is giving white lib racism.

[@therealrobertbirchall]

It's also profitable for the prisons and the politicians who have a pecuniary interest in the prison industry.

[@josephrojas9097]

Your explanations are always very enlightening and digestible, which is a weird compliment but for things like this, where it’s a contemporary kind of situation, that’s really helpful. To answer your request, I love true crime- I was raised on true crime and nature documentaries on TV lol

[@pedroportillo1585]

I feel she should not have left out the audio recording of Courtney literally going insane on Christian for saying “hi” to a woman while on a bike ride. I mean, DEAR MOTHER OF MERCY, Courtney calls him the N-word and yells at the top of her lungs while Christian is trying to explain himself. Courtney sounds like a demon possessed in the recording! I’m not saying that Christian was an angel or that he didn’t abuse her as well. However, there is more evidence that points out she was a hell of a lot more unhinged than he was.

[@Bigtiddygandalf]

All the footage I’ve listened to is Clement screaming and hollering and him trying to calm her down

[@hannahk9310]

Thank you making a video about the case Leeja!! 💕 Always love getting your wisdom on cases!!

[@dustin628]

Men CAN be abuse victims, and in this case all the evidence supports the fact that she was an abusive person. The texts even show she had stabbed him before! The previous multiple, extreme DUIs point to her problems with alcohol and other substances. Personally, I think she got violent when drunk, and since she was drunk all the time she was violent all the time. She also had zero defensive wounds in those pictures right after "threatened for her life" to use lethal force. He deserves justice in this case.

[@hjr228]

Thank you!

[@eh7322]

Thank you for covering this from all sides Leeja. I always look forward to your points and breakdown of the situation!

[@marionlogan6069]

The police are annoying the heck out of me talking to her. It's amazing how under trained they are. Then them talking to the witness and blowing the actual victim off is 😡😡😡😡😡.

[@summervonholten7643]

I wondered that too! They says it’s because the real detectives that handle that are off on Sunday’s.

[@natalyabelaya883]

“Unless you’re a cop” 😂 love you Leeja

[@laurenglerup4208]

Love when you talk about true crime and give us the legal spin on it! Please do more of them!

[@anikap8180]

I appreciate your nuance and care taken in your coverage of this.

[@chattingman6777]

To those making excuses for clear signs of abuse and murder get help. This case isn't complicated she killed him intentionally. It happens often in abusive relationships. The problem is that this was a woman committing the crimes and the me to vibe only wants to see me as aggressive. Calling the elevator assusalt toxic is down playing abuse victims. When Chris brown abused Rhiannaon on the elevator did we say it was a toxic relationship or directly call it out for being abusive.

[@LeejaMiller]

Did you not hear a word I said? This case is incredibly complicated, if you don’t get that then I can’t help you. This is a very different situation from the Chris Brown/Rihanna abuse. Gain some critical thinking skills my dude

[@greywolf7577]

@@LeejaMiller If we took this exact case, except the boyfriend stabbed the girlfriend instead of the other way around, I highly doubt people would be defending him, no matter how abusive the girlfriend had been. People are giving her a lot more benefit of the doubt than they would give to him if he had killed her.

[@yassine8935]

​@@greywolf7577that isn't necessarily true nor does it really matter about public perception if the abuse happened it happend , some people believe in patriarchal system to much hat they could never be able to phathum a women being an abuser but it does change the fact that if a man did fight back against his female abuser it would be self defense . The general public are still in a very patriarchal world view but it doesn't change the abuse onky the way it woukd be perceived by the general public .

[@Pink_Torch]

Leeja, I love your content and loved your coverage of this story. The people you represent are truly lucky to have a lawyer like you!

[@bannor99]

"your self-defense has to be equal to the threat,.......... unless you're a cop" Indeed

[@marionlogan6069]

He's darn near twice her size, pushing her off and trying to beat the snot out of her are two separate things. She's not hurting him to the point of doing damage, so I could see why he'd smirk.

[@JL_Lux]

She wasn’t worried about his size in that elevator

[@greywolf7577]

She literally murdered him. She is a lot more dangerous than he ever was. Why is it people don't want to punish female abusers?

[@icanseewater]

"Unless you're a cop...." LOLOLOLOL truth and a half!

[@julieblair7472]

You nailed this. Thanks for hitting all the touch stones so well here.

[@berryreadable]

Thanks for making a video about this case.❤

[@terrylovesyogurt5983]

This was a refreshing and nuanced take, thanks Leeja ❤ Love your perspective on true crime cases. Maybe cover the Danny Masterson case? Thank you queen!

[@LeejaMiller]

Omg you read my mind, that video drops next week!

[@larbot3433]

She's so good!

[@malikhill8166]

This video deserves more likes. Extremely underrated channel with lots of great information. I appreciate this content.

[@christinabarker1453]

Thank you taking for this approach about such a complex issue and event and I hope you do trial updates! Also would love to see more videos like this too!

[@alidawn6723]

You have such a good perspective on DV. Would love more videos on this case or this topic.

[@milissaellan6805]

Yes yes, please more true crime-- we see a ton of channels just telling the story as they see it but your legally informed viewpoint is SO valuable!

[@emmapavan4949]

Great video, so many layers to this case. So far I've kind of enjoyed all the videos you've done. It's a good variety and keeps it interesting

[@thefirstaquarius]

I always enjoy when you cover time crime! Thank you for pointing out the nuances.

[@matthewcunningham9049]

Great video! I'm interested to see how this trial progresses. I'm a long-time subscriber, and I really enjoy when you talk about current events, especially when you dig deep into muddied topics. Always enjoy watching!

[@KatStrega]

Great video as always, I love how you explain things in such a digestible way. I also want to say that you are looking fierce and I love the mood lighting!

[@Cc44444]

This was really informative! I enjoyed learning about the complexities (specifically legal complexities) of cases like these. Basically just love when I get to learn!! I must say, again, LOVING the fashion Leeja!

[@ps374249]

This seems to be going to trial really quickly. There's a murder trial from my home town scheduled to start in January. The accused was arrested in December of 2019. While I understand that a pandemic happened in the interim and that a capital case is going to take longer to get to trial than a case for second degree murder, 4 months between arrest and trial seems super short for her attorney to prepare a defense. Even if she retained counsel in April, 8 months doesn't sound like all that long for either side to prep.

[@canadiancowgirl8776]

I was so hoping you would talk about this case, would definitely love more as the trial progresses as well! Of course it is sad but the complexities make it interesting and these dynamics definitely need to be talked about.

[@greywolf7577]

It just frustrates me that she gets a lot more benefit of the doubt than the boyfriend would have gotten had he killed her.

[@someordinaryswmajor3932]

Hey Leeja, love your content. I really liked this update. I heard a lot about this case initially but the way you broke it down and saw the nuance to this was fantastic. I’d love to see more of this in the future.

[@marslivingsimply]

Really interesting and thorough. Thank you for covering these cases!

[@lenorahummell1580]

I actually used the wheel of power and control to help with my divorce, when I was a DV victim.

[@gumsguey]

Thanks for covering this complex case! I defo learned a lot and would love more videos like this. You're the best, Leejah!!!

[@itoobable]

yes, Leeja - this type of true crime analysis and your historical legal videos are probably my favourites :) thanks so much!

[@meglincolnsquarepotterystu1522]

I would really love to see a video where you explain that Wheel- it looks like something really important that lots of people should know more about

[@brianhellums595]

“That’s some ‘Kill Bill: vol. 2’ shit!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@greywolf7577]

Making light of a case just because the murderer is female is not appropriate.

[@MR_CAMARADERIE]

Seriously underrated channel. You are AMAZING

[@LeejaMiller]

Thank you!!!

[@jacobvardy]

"... drinks with her father..." For a lot of men, a chat in a quiet pub is step one in dealing with trauma. I bet the dad suggested this.

[@whome8444]

Old time advice in a hyper media world.

[@JL_Lux]

Sorry but after killing someone - a chat at the pub is also a bad look

[@rustomkanishka]

Might as well go dancing. One is expected to stay home.

[@kevinmckelvy3358]

I dig your videos. I am 22:42 seconds into the video and I am slowly churning with what I realize is anger and I searched my feelings to understand why. And, I knew what it was; I am a Black man and have witnessed abuse by men but also have suffered from and witnessed white women vacillating emotional states when we are in the equation. I stopped the video at this point to recognize my triggers. I don’t know if you will be fairer in your account of the story. I may just be bearing down hard on my perspective. I will start the video and see where it and you go, however, I wanted to acknowledge my feelings because sometimes in this country those feelings are ignored. I am glad that she was finally arrested because that is what triggered a lot of my culture; the seeming inability for the state to do the basic SOP. However, keep it up miss.

[@seymourjackson9777]

Nope trust your feelings

[@smokeyarmstrong8292]

Whhhoooaaa, hold on...gotta throw the BS flag on your description of the elevator incident. First, it's horribly misleading to say that Christian was 'pushing [Courtney] around.' He was trying to protect himself without injuring Courtney - he certainly didn't use any more force than he needed to in order to keep her from pummeling him. Second, Courtney was 'fighting back' in the elevator? Huh? Uh, in order to 'fight back,' doesn't another party have to initiating the fighting? As far as the video demonstrated, there was no 'fighting back.' There was, however, a grown woman failing to regulate her behavior and assaulting her boyfriend.

[@SillyGoose001]

Somehow, I hadn’t heard of this case. Thanks for covering!

[@LisaMW]

Yes, please share more of your thoughts on this case and others like it. Your perspective is helpful!

[@jadenharding6835]

You handled this all so well, I would love to see other videos like this ❤

[@idamay4590]

Thanks for bringing up the power and control wheel, love you

[@FatLarz]

Just to add something before getting to the facts of the case; your fit today is fire Leeja! Love the glasses :)

[@cearathomas930]

If a cop asked me why I don't feel safe after someone else described my large boyfriend as "charging" at me, I would have flipped shit. I'm not done with the vid so im not fully on her side yet, but damn. At face value I'm holding the police partially responsible for his death

[@greywolf7577]

No, she is fully responsible. She was the one who stabbed him. Even if the police did a bad job, that doesn't excuse her actions. You know that if the boyfriend had stabbed her after she was physical with him, people wouldn't treat him as the victim.

[@OriginalBernieBro]

Imagine having to pressure a SA to arrest someone for murder. Please make that make sense.

[@TheZinistra]

I enjoy your reasonable and nuanced take on issues and cases like this. I think it's so important to add a measured take to discourse that is otherwise, like you mention, often filled with snap judgements. It's so, so important. It's also important for people to get to see the views and opinions of what good conduct should look like, putting into words why cops ways of questioning can make you feel at fault where you shouldn't. More like this please 👍

[@stayhigh-drated]

One thing in this case that makes me go “?” is the fact that apparently they rented their apartment together but she said she was being stalked by him when he tried to enter their apartment… I’m no criminal lawyer but also the autopsy makes it seem like she was above him to be able to make that kind of harm. But still I’m not convinced bc we never know what is going around even w ppl we know.

[@summervonholten7643]

In no way do I think this man stalked her. I think she likes drama and is very abusive and aggressive. They had a dysfunctional relationship and I think she liked it that way. She has a very bad temper. The proof is the elevator scene. It was horrific. He never hit her back.

[@yassine8935]

​@@summervonholten7643someone not hitting another back literally proves nothing when we know they wound be arguing and probably fighting in their rooms , so him not hitting her back while literally in public proves nothing ngl .

[@asugirlgonenerdy]

Hurray for the shoutout to hotdish! As a fellow Minneapolitan, just wondering if you would consider covering the ongoing struggle between MNA and the hospital systems in contract negotiations? It seems like there's a deficit of public information about the labor law, of healthcare workers advocating for quality care for our patients and fair compensation for ourselves, and the collective bargaining process overall. Totally understand if you don't want to comment/speculate on an ongoing thing, but figured it was worth asking! :)

[@focusinc4266]

you do this so well.

[@davidaldana1785]

Great content and lookin gorge, thank u for this, greetings from Spain!

[@noripapaya]

I agree with the types of cases you want to cover & would love more!!

[@JamievsKane]

Hey Leeja. Great video (as always). I’d love for you to do more videos on true crime stories. I have always been interested in learning about the details surrounding the Karla Homolka/Paul Bernardo case from a legal perspective. From what I understand the trial was a bit of a hot mess. I would love to hear your perspective on it. Thanks!

[@becauseimafan]

I heard about that story growing up, it's local to me! I'm an 80s baby from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. It's the first, like, criminal trial I ever heard about. I'd definitely watch if she made a video on that, for sure! I know very little about it. The first time I heard about it was cuz we were stuck in traffic on the way to school, and on the radio they said it was caused by a fire that broke out in the early morning. And that early reports said it was possibly arson by neighbours who didn't want this "Homolka" person moving into their neighborhood. Whether this turned out to be true or not I don't know, but it was reported she didn't move there, so 🤷

[@PanoramicLove]

Loved this. Really reminded me of the Killer Sally Netflix docuseries. Also, would love coverage of the case.

[@rossanadehache165]

I really enjoy your channel and getting this kind of updates and information it's really good. I hope to see more videos like this :)

[@LouforYous]

Love the true crime type stuff!

[@killallrobots2001]

Those cops didn't help her because they thought whatever happens to her, she deserves it.

[@mabonniejungle....7851]

Thank you for this video, as a survivor of an extremely violent and controlling relationship I can say that I fought back and sometimes it would have looked like I was the aggressor. I am just thankful that I had the support of womans aid and police Scotland’s DAU when things came to a crash and he tried to come back and make me look like the violent one which was scary especially when you have untrained police taking the side of someone who you are in fear of. I was grateful to work with police who were trained and that gave me the strength to carry on. I see so many cases in the USA that make my blood boil, I’m not saying the system in the UK is flawless but I think it definitely supports victims more that in the USA. There’s so many women (and men) locked up because the defended themselves and god forbid they had a drug or alcohol issue !! Seems like instead of wanting to help the system over there just likes to lock ppl up. I had to also go through civil court to help protect my daughter which again I had the support from WA and my police liaison from the DAU even the civil court in the USA is a mess if you don’t have money and you are a woman or of a minority then you have no chance, which saddens me. Thankfully I do see that there’s a lot of organisations fighting to hide woman who are fleeing a DV situation and aren’t receiving help from the courts and police. As survivors we have a duty to speck up and help change the system within our own and within other countries, because it can be a cultural issues as well the number of minority women fleeing Dv relationships is through the roof and when the leave they have even less support because it can be seen as shameful to walk away from a marriage especially with children, it’s terrible the number of minority ppl that end up dead at the hand of their family and not the abuser because of the shame they have brought on their family which is absolutely absurd and now being in the position where I get to work with these women and help them find their inner strength to re gain their lives truly fills my life with a purpose I never thought all those years ago that I would have. Please if you are reading this and you need help to leave and be safe, do not wait, take the first safe opportunity to leave and go to your nearest refuge as they will support you when and if you chose to go to the police. Do not wait until you are in the position where defending yourself may lead to you losing your freedom because the judiciary system sucks !! Be safe and know you are not alone, it will get better and you can have the life you deserve 🤗 Love ya Leeja, keep going queen you are a light in a murky pool and you 100% help more than you will ever know. You are an inspiration to so many and I truly wish you all the best, btw you are not only always looking fierce but if you don’t mind me saying you are a stunning piping hot ladeeee you always bring your A game and it is so appreciated, thank you x

[@greywolf7577]

The problem is that if a male victim of domestic abuse defends himself, people assume he is his the aggressor. And in some cases, he ends up dead, which is likely what happened in this case.

[@neldormiveglia1312]

I'm a Spanish lawyer and it's actually ILLEGAL for the police to initiate a formal statement of the detained person if said person hasn't seen their lawyer/been assigned one. It's ILLEGAL.

[@palmtreeesrsexy]

Love your videos, LOVE your true crime videos and how you explain law things without being condescending.

[@ukallii]

Please do more of these true crime type videos. They're really interesting

[@katmeowgarcia7189]

I love your channel. Thank you for your content. I think your commentary is rad and it resonates with working class.

[@lukelowry]

I would love if you did an update on this case as it unfolds!

[@gloomybears31593]

love love your incite. so informative. much thanks!!!!

[@LettersToSummer4]

I love this type of video!

[@geekfreak5100]

"Punishment for a term of years not exceeding life"... Well, good to know my corpse won't be in prison

[@nikoledale1270]

I definitely like these type of videos.!! Don't have any recommendations but I would he interested to listen to more of the legal background of cases that are going on and those that have been closed.

[@laynemartin7914]

This is triggering for me because my nephews girlfriend slashed his throat because he wouldn't let her read his DMs and she suspected he was cheating on her... her defense was she thought it was a spatula.

[@meganjones3547]

I'm sorry for your loss, I'm assuming she was found guilty with that dumb ass defence

[@hayleygloria3042]

your makeup is on point. slaaaay ✨

[@cinsavior]

I really like your editing style

[@skyechild]

Loved this. More please

[@AlexanderVoltage]

LOVE THE TRUE CRIME STUFF!