Self-Playing Piano - Pedal Powered Karaoke Machine from 1925

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If you ever dreamt of waking up one day and just be able to play piano fluently without having to practice the Grandiola Piano Player is probably your best option. You only need to pedal the pedals and voila, music. Enjoy!
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Instrument Name and Model: Grandiola player piano
Type of instrument: player piano
Year Built: ca. 1925
Maker: Stems & Direct Pneumatic Action Company
Place of Manufacture: Dresden, Germany & London, England
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[@BobOgden1]

What memories, my aunt had one of these with ~50 rolls and I remember sitting pumping the bellows being amazed at the mechanical marvel.

[@TheBaconWizard]

Same!

[@PsyphaX09]

How old are you? Just curious...lol

[@BobOgden1]

Richie Rich, let's just say that the first time I saw it was in the 1950s 😃 however I get the impression that they were popular in Australia. I'd see them every now and then at friends houses and I remember a TV program about the last pianola roll maker in Australia closing and that was in the last 10 years or so. I would bet that there are people who collect and restore them out there

[@PsyphaX09]

Thank you for the reply. I haven't seen a single one of those here in the Philippines but we do have an antique piano in our house which still works to this very day. It's really great to see people restoring such an amazing piece of musical instrument. Hope that they may last several hundred years more.......

[@BobOgden1]

Richie Rich I think there would be a problem with the mechanism coping with a tropical climate, the bellows are leather (at least the joints), humidity would be a big issue so I'm not sure if they will last as long in the Philippines plus maybe they weren't that popular there for whatever reason to begin with so there are not many to survive till today

[@Maeglin7936]

Wintergatan makes Mondays awesome💖

[@shervan7705]

Exactly!!

[@Scritchnsniff]

He really does

[@Yannick432]

Monday never been so good !

[@harrytsang1501]

I'd love if this was released on Monday. I only get some Morty on Mondays and that won't last long

[@kartaloktay]

Old school synthesia, 20s kids will remember :D

[@i.i.iiii.i.i]

New school synthesia 20s kids will come up soon :D

[@lianrobintribunal484]

Synthesia is an app I use animusic songs there

[@urphakeandgey6308]

@@i.i.iiii.i.i Now that's an odd thought... especially considering we're now a year deep into "the 20s."

[@Endermanso]

I was starting to study and the video popped out. Never stopped my obligations that fast

[@heyimjosh2097]

OMG same I was doing science then found this. :P let's say I finished at 9:00 PM

[@RainbowCrash77]

There is a really simple, but good working way to get the Marble Machine X run at a stable speed, which will also be adjustable. Put a adjustable centrifugal governor in it, like every gramophone, polyphone and other music playing machines that were driven by a spring motor or a crank by hand had in. Ask the people at the museum, a lot of their machines will have governors to regulate the speed. You can put a coupling in, so that you can disable the governor, if you want to regulate the speed with the crank like on the first marble machine. Sorry for my bad English. Greetings from Germany!

[@andrewbarrett1537]

RainbowCrash77 Interesting suggestion. Funnily enough, the Melville Clark "Apollo" brand player pianos, and push-up piano players (which were really high end pianos and players marketed to wealthy people, and well worth restoring for musical purposes) usually had a spring wound motor with centrifugal fly ball governor, just like in a phonograph, to drive the music roll. This was kept wound by two connecting rods from the player pedals, and had a clutch to prevent over - winding once the spring was wound. This conserved suction so that all in the system was available to run the player stack, which apparently helped with both dynamics and tempo issues. The latest Apollos, though, a couple years before the firm sold out to Wurlitzer in 1919 (DeKalb, Illinois) used a conventional windmotor like most player pianos, including this one. You can read more about Apollo players, (and submit info on other existing ones to help with the database) here: www.mechanicalmusicpress.com/registry/apollo/apollo.htm

[@Starfighterace421]

I love the player piano my family inherited from my great grandma. Sounds amazing and is a great leg workout on the long rolls XD

[@bbreeuwer4577]

Been to this museum , highly recommended! (as well as the city of Utrecht)

[@SASunDog]

Haha Joost has no idea how the mechanisms inside actually work. He only knows what is needed to operate the machine, and is completely baffled when Martin expresses delight at the flapping sound of the winding roll. Martin, you are right. Piano music, you can hear anywhere, but the sound that flapping paper roll makes is unique to that instrument, and can be heard nowhere else!

[@theorganguy]

when I rewind the rolls in my street organ it sounds - well - similar, at least ;-)

[@Grey_Duck]

It actually reminds me of the sound of a film reel running out.

[@SASunDog]

Yes, similar, but very distinct nonetheless.

[@d3xbot]

Dude that's a cool system! Love these music machine mondays!

[@stevenwoolf5817]

I have a pianola at home very similar to this. There are a few differences though. When mine plays, you can actually see the piano keys playing along. I always found this to be part of the fun.

[@benjaminbrown5245]

Am a working pianist. I have played player pianos as well before. I have pedaled them and played them like regular acoustic pianos. You can do both. Now what many people probably don’t know is that the player piano actually gave an idea for today’s digital pianos. People back then didn’t even think about digital pianos but the player piano was the predecessor and an idea for what would in later years bee a digital piano. The player piano gave a principal of what and is now a digital piano. And yes. That piano does need very much tuning but for a 1925 vibe that is the way it should sound. Detuned pianos for that time really made the music of its time sound great. The cool thing about those pianos is that you could hear all of the moving parts inside of it. Kind of like a cuckoo clock. As the bird is beeing pushed out you can hear air coming out of the clock a bit. Well, the same with the piano. You start pedaling it and you can hear it pumping and getting ready. Can’t hear those things with a digital piano. Because we are in totally different years. Both player pianos and digitals can get pretty loud though. And the thing with a player is that you can hear all of the detuned sounds of the strings where as a digital piano you just hear switch on and switch off and the piano never goes out of tune. It is always perfectly in tune.plus their are so many more sounds you can hear on a player. It is like listening to a regular plain old acoustic piano. You can hear everything moving. Action and pedals and strings overtones and harmonics. With a digital you only get a real good emulation but will never bee like the acoustic and acoustic player pianos. If you want to just actually play a player piano like you would any piano you can do that as well. It is just going to bee a regular playing of the piano though.I

[@theotherhive]

this is the best way to start the week.

[@Phantomthecat]

Hit 'like' while waiting for the advert to run before the video. :) My next door neighbour when I was a child had a player piano with over 200 rolls for it - always got a good work out when I went over but there was a long piece called 'The Storm' I think that went for over 7 minutes - I could never get through that in one hit... :)

[@allanlindskoog]

I'm really enjoying these videos. I never realized there were so many different kinds of music machines. Thanks for bringing them and this wonderful museum to us.

[@KentuckyRanger]

A good friend of mine had a player piano. His father learned how to play using the music rolls. He'd follow the action with his hands and fingers, and after time, got the hang of how to play. He really was pretty good at it too!

[@photoshawn801]

My dad rebuilt one of these when I was a kid in the late 70s, so I grew up with a piano like this in my living room. My favorite scroll to play was the song, "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang." We had so many scrolls. Some were really old Sousa marches that we didn't play very often (some were in rough shape). But newer ones included a medley of the music from Pinocchio and, oddly enough, the theme from ET. I'd play "The Entertainer" and cover up the high notes on the scroll with my finger so you'd just hear the harmony. Good times.

[@SaltySalman]

the world would be heaven if the world was as beautiful as this man's mind

[@MrKlove01]

My parents have one of these. It's been in our family for years. I believe that it originally belonged to my Great-Grandmother. I have very pleasant memories of playing this when I was growing up.

[@jomiar309]

1:11 My grandparents have this at their house, and I loved playing with it! I thought this was the neatest thing.

[@seonaelizabethcoster8465]

A friend of my family has one of these, or at least had one. I cannot play the piano, so I loved playing this so much. Their pianola also had the keys move as if a ghost was playing it. It was so much fun.

[@ChickenBG7]

the song is actually He'd have to Get Under, Get Out and Get Under (to fix his automobile) by Billy Murray

[@BlinkBoxx44]

My grandparents have one of these in their basement! I use to play it all the time when I was young.

[@NealD]

Played a player piano a lot as a kid. Rewinding was always a pain and I’d get in trouble for going too fast rewinding. Unfortunately it needed work and family members trashed the whole thing a few years ago, and I didn’t even know it. It broke my heart... never had a chance and repairing it.

[@AndrewPetzold]

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[@thesegoto80]

Just FYI, the song played is not "Get Out and Get Under the Moon". It's actually "He'd have to Get Under, Get Out and Get Under". It's a comic song about someone having to fix his car repeatedly while on a date. It's from around 1913, though of course the roll may be from later.

[@CloudSplitter]

THANK YOU SO MUCH, I thought they got it wrong

[@CloudSplitter]

I remember it from that documentary about the first guy to drive cross country USA

[@andrewbarrett1537]

Gabe Gabeler Me too! "Horatio's Drive"

[@chewablezoo]

What's this specific arrangement. Do you know?

[@grantwatson8059]

Martin, thank you for these really interesting videos about these marvelous music machines...and thank you for introducing me to this song, "Get Out and Get Under the Moon." I love following KZbin down the rabbit hole, listening to different versions of songs. You never know where you will end up!

[@Lucius1958]

The song is actually "He'd Have to Get Under (Get Out and Get Under)", a comic song about automobiles from the 1910s. "Get Out and Get Under the Moon" is an entirely different song from the '20s.

[@wyyrdojim]

These machines are so cool! I'm really enjoying Music Machine Mondays. Thanks!😎

[@vullut]

Älskar dessa videos!

[@TheDarkSaplings]

Jeg elsker Wintergatan ikke bare videoene hannes. ^^

[@AdalHRivera]

3:14 I've been coming back to this video several times just for this rendition of the song

[@zekromplayspiano]

My uncle had a player piano in his living room. He had a bunch of different scrolls, but the one I remember playing most, was Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody no.2 and I was fascinated that the piano could make that. I would play that one over and over because I loved the sound of the piece. I dont think I had ever heard the piece before but I remember that I thought it was cool. (This was before I learned to play piano at all so I was probably like 8).

[@NukTap]

This exact piano is featured at the A1 piano shop a few blocks from my house.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

This is always a wonderful way to start my week. Thanks so much and I will see you on Wednesday my friend !

[@ronabalosneo]

thank you for showing us these wonders of music

[@ConsciousAtoms]

In a way this type of musical instrument is a precursor to modern computers. Very interesting, I'll have to visit the museum sometime!

[@anneb7434]

Really enjoyed this video, thanks for making my monday a little more bearable! A really amazing machine too, I didn't know karaoke machines existed in 1925.

[@benemmett6194]

The pneumatic engine & adjustable governor are very cool as he noted. However, in working with my own player piano, I find the most amazing part of it is the system of valves that are triggered by the small holes in the front where the scroll passes over. These are what actually cause the notes to play. I wish they would have mentioned more of those details. I enjoyed the video though. Thanks!

[@andrewbarrett1537]

Ben Emmett I agree! There are some good videos posted by Mr. John Tuttle and Mr. Craig Brougher on John's KZbin channel, but they're early efforts with basic videography. I think if I can scare up some talented friends who can make fancy high def videos and great computer animations, and also scare up some money, I can help Mr. Tuttle and Mr. Brougher make more. The easier it is for people to understand how a player works. the better the chance of restoring it properly, and also, these could be fun for the technically - minded to watch.

[@andrewbarrett1537]

Here's John Tuttle's KZbin channel with videos on restoring player and reproducing pianos by him and also by Craig Brougher: kzbin.infovideos

[@689Maurizio]

At the risk of sounding snobby... it's a ROLL not a SCROLL

[@hexane360]

Wintergatan design team: "Wait we have to make a governor now?"

[@billkeithchannel]

I could hear the gears in Martin's head whirring away.

[@suicidal.session]

Louder than on the first Marble Machine

[@mrmusiclover4178]

We had a player piano at our home. It was a joy! But rolls were difficult to find. The piano was a Walters, out of New York. I notice the keys don't move up & down like they did in our pre-1900 piano.

[@DougKeeling]

This series is excellent! Thank you!

[@GooseCaboose737]

ah my grandfather has one of these! They're so fun to play on, and sometimes they double as an actual piano for when you don't want to use the scrolls. I'll admit winding the scrolls back up is probably one of the funnest things you get to do though pfft

[@elijiah6503]

My grandfather had one of these. Very cool

[@_kariope]

beautiful mechanism !!!😤thanks

[@hvanmegen]

Wintergatan makes the monday feel like any other day of the week, thanks :)

[@peteshoulders1]

I have a very similar one made in the early 1920s, by Archway, beautiful machine, mine had air leaks until I recovered the big bellows behind the foot pedals, one of the signs of an air leak is having to pedal quite fast and that can take some effort! lol, now all the work has been done," its a dream"!!!!

[@Antimonium]

Some parents of mine had one of these in Italy, always wondered was the pedals were for

[@karenkiebooms2113]

Waking up and being able to play the piano fluently ... seems that's possible, at least when you're somebody like me and have desired to be a piano player ... and hearing Ymre practice (had his first real 'conservatorium' lesson today) has added a jazz touch ... nice to give your heavy coat away to those who always desired it more than you did ...

[@allenpryortube]

Solid good sound, we're crossing new ground, as Tre makes their way back into town.

[@Keeper1st]

As mentioned before, the song credit is incorrect. The song is "He'd Have to Get Out and Get Under (to Fix Up His Automobile)" published in 1913 with music by Maurice Abrahams and lyrics by well known duo Grant Clarke and Edgar Leslie. Also, the comment that the skill of pianolist is "irrelevant" is incorrect. There are dynamics levers as well as the tempo lever that a good pianolist can manipulate to make the music sound better.

[@Colaholiker]

I love this out-of-tune piano sound.

[@JenniferEliseAtchiso]

I grew up with a friend who had one of these... we spent hours peddling and songing

[@firemarioghost5208]

I love how these work!

[@emmabroughton2039]

Yay! Making Monday's Magic.

[@userunavailable3095]

It amazes me that these are a big deal now. When I was a kid, they were a dime a dozen and many of us learned to play piano or pretended to play on an old player piano with or without the mechanism still in it. My grandmother had one. My aunt had one. My next door neighbor had one.

[@NukTap]

"Its nothing like a piano!" Except for the fact that it's a piano.

[@kylec5211]

These make my week!

[@chentiangemalc]

Recently was playing keyboards in a musical in a small country town theatre here in Australia and they had what looks like this exact same model in the foyer

[@OakwoodMachineWorks]

At my day job we work on pianos very much like this regularly. We also build a modern version. They are very interesting pieces of machinery. We even still produce and sell the roles.

[@OakwoodMachineWorks]

And it does not act on air pressure, it actually works on a lack there of. Kind of a semantics thing. When a hole passes over a port on the piano, it flips a little bellow and actuates the key.

[@Coderjo.]

By "modern version" do you mean something like a Yamaha Disklavier, or something that still plays rolls?

@Wintergatan: thanks for showing all these beautiful machines! have you some more detailed information on the speed-guardian system? Its amazing!

[@JoshuaRastia]

Love this new series! If you guys ever tour the USA and end up in Wisconsin you should check out The House on the Rock, they got tons of musical automata and oddities you would love! Including one of the world largest player organs

[@anilbahsi]

I want this outro music Martin!

[@RandStuffOfficial]

I think the song is "Get out and get under" (sung by Bill Murray in 1914), and not "Get out and get under the moon" (by Annette Hanshaw), which is a different song. Am I wrong?

[@Lucius1958]

Correct. *"He'd Have to Get Under (Get Out and Get Under)"*. Incidentally, Annette Hanshaw was not a songwriter, as far as I know, but a singer.

[@brucewelch4374]

Nice video. Actually the skills of the pianolist does make a difference. Using certain pedalling techniques plus the speed control and the soft-bass and soft-treble levers can make the performance much more musically pleasing and more like an actual pianist playing by hand.

[@expeehaa]

And again ... an instrument from Germany :D Thank you for these video, I like them very much

[@Orasund]

but can you play it like a piano?

[@dogsbody49]

yes. It plays & feels just like a normal piano.

[@Orasund]

so can i paddle and play at the same time?

[@Jono6671]

OrasundSozosha no, you would only do one at a time

[@KindGottes92]

could be great for practice with special rolls :)

[@KaOlsonSFX]

OrasundSozosha some you can

[@emils3279]

i whatched ewery monday and its really awesome

[@SASunDog]

The cool clicking graphics at the end remind me of jammed machinery. The gears should instead advance every time they jerk, like clockwork.

[@Lucius1958]

"He'd Have to Get Under (Get Out and Get Under)": Verse: 🎶Johnny O'Connor had an automobile; He took his sweetheart for a ride one Sunday. Johnny was togged up in his best Sunday clothes; She nestled close to his side. Things were just dandy 'til they got down the road; Then something happened to the old machinery. That engine got his goat; Off went his hat and coat: Everything needed repair! Chorus: Then, he'd have to get under, get out and get under, To fix his little machine: He was just dying to cuddle his queen; But every minute, when he'd begin it, He'd have to get under, get out and get under, Then he'd be back at the wheel; A dozen times he'd start to hug and kiss, But then the darned old engine, it would miss; And then he'd have to get under, get out and get under, To fix up his automobile!🎶

[@CBF1]

My cousin Sam has one of these, but Sam's piano was built in the 1890's not the 1920's. Sam claims that the organ part of the piano, has only been played once during the time he had it. Before he got it, the organ part of the piano was probably played during it's past use. But, he has been playing it with the KEYS before. I recorded it but never uploaded it. I might upload it sometime.

[@sam_james_18]

Martin could be the advertisement for holidays to Sweden

[@Lunarmallow]

drinking game for MMM: take a sip every time it's awkward, take a shot every time he tries to change the subject to the Marble Machine X

[@thevillain2754]

Nice, I've got one of these at home with about 50 scrolls for it. Always thought it was called a Pianola

[@Leonards_life]

My best friend Jim Spohn has rebuilt many of those including pipe organs, all the billows and including a pipe organ that ran on scrolls. Sorry he has passed and we did a lot together MUSICALLY.

[@andrewbarrett1537]

adinserter It's good you knew Jim, I heard a lot about him (good things) from theatre organ friends and in fact have a rank or two, and several tuned percussions, in storage he'd previously saved. Sorry I never got to make it to the Granada.

[@andrewbarrett1537]

adinserter It's good you knew Jim, I heard a lot about him (good things) from theatre organ friends and in fact have a rank or two, and several tuned percussions, in storage he'd previously saved. Sorry I never got to make it to the Granada.

[@GaryDawes]

The correct title of the music roll (not scroll) is 'He'd Have to Get Under - Get Out and Get Under (to fix up his automobile)' - by Clarke, Leslie and Abrahams. Annette Hanshaw was actually a popular singer from the 1920s - and, as far as I'm aware, was not a composer!

[@TH3PLA1NP1L0T]

Very nice instrument and song!

[@Svelix]

I love to see all those amazing machines, but it would be even cooler if you would explain a little more how they actually work. Especially if you are planing to use a concept of a machine for the marble machine.

[@bryanwhat2268]

yeah we use to have a player piano with the pedals and electric it was a lot of fun

[@PeterMackett]

The correct title of the song is (He had to) "Get out and Get Under",the title given in the video is a completely different song!

[@grandcarriage1]

I just bought one of these (not this maker). My goal is to get it running properly again. The nice thing is that the piano itself does sound nice, so even until the player mechanism I have a piano I can play...

[@H1805-n5j]

Exercising whole playing the piano ;)

[@yuyito1518]

I love this videos, they are so interesting

[@levilukeskytrekker]

Woooooo, Wintergatan!

[@WerwolfP9192]

I think it sounds like in a saloon :) I like that machine.

[@bobbygarza6263]

The song is "Get out and get under" not "Get out and get under the moon" two very different songs.

[@TheUserid82]

Would you want the governor to be visible or hidden? A ball governor is great for visible as they lift the faster the spin controlling the speed by opening or closing a valve/clutch. The hard part is the math for figuring out the weight they need to be to lift at the set speed. Ether way the easiest way to have them transfer power from the input to the system is friction pads that are pushed to the wheel by the governor retracting so you have full power transfer when starting then it starts slipping as the system hits the speed it needs. Would let you over spin the input wheel without effecting the systems play speed.

[@pinkponyofprey1965]

They did it! They did it! It's alive! :D

[@Malva597]

Wintergatan: The only reason to get out of bed on monday

[@BrotherSkodidi]

Flera tack för helt din videor!

[@JudsonGraham]

that's the song they used on Futurama for the old timey cutaways

[@RealRequiem]

Notification Squad! ♥️

[@wideyxyz2271]

cool as always

[@babyjenks1784]

Looks like there is still one company out there that makes piano rolls. QRS. They have been in business since 1900 and I remember we had some QRS piano rolls when I had a player piano growing up. I would love to get a player piano again!

[@davidburke1794]

I'm sure you looked into this a little more and found this operates on vacuum of the bellows. Also this was not as robust as versions around the USA. We had an upright player that when in operation would operate the keys so you could copy the movement and play the tune on your own. And there is still companies that produce the piano rolls even today.

[@theblackbaron4119]

It's awesome that you're getting so much support from the museum to help build your marvel machine. Did you make an arrangement with them to donate marble machine X after your tour? Would anyone be able to see it in that museum, after a certain time?

[@SeanLamb-I-Am]

If you ever get to Wisconsin, I'd love to take you to the House on the Rock. There are a lot of music machines there to enjoy. Also, the Circus World Museum in Baraboo has a few calliopes preserved in working order.

[@steakkie4059]

The piano from Westworld!!

[@stratosphere1360]

Martin i think you'll soon reach a crossroad: create a classic marble machine made to resists to concerts and tours but still "traditional".. or a better "modern" marble machine with classic exterior looks and a XXI century heart within.. Who knows maybe we've already seen the traditionals...infact there's a wonderful museum hosting them... Personally the second possible way could be more interesting to hear and watch at creating music! What do you think about? I'm wondering: could it be that in 2017 you are the only handcrafter that is building a marble machine?? ;-) Go Wintergatan Go !!! (thumbs up!)

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

the way he's going, he'll have a fully functional Animusic rig by 2020.

[@stratosphere1360]

Nighthawk hopefully before your prevision ;-)

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

being conservative. I mean.... have you _seen_ an Animusic contraption? 0.0 if they get it by 2020, that'd be a record.

[@stratosphere1360]

Nighthawk I've found some cool (little creepy too) examples on the web, still the marble machine mechanism is more fascinating to me; i think it's because of the visible "game" of the marbles, running up and down, with the eyes that follow and admire the mechanism that creates music ..and Wintergatan, not every music! ;-) We will see the final result, before 2020, hopefully!

[@Fretalex]

Increíble que algo como esto exista gracias

[@apuherra8864]

Have you already planned for something to keep the tempo smooth? The first MM uses a flywheel, but it is weak to slow accelerandos and ritardandos over time. Is MMX using something else, a mind-blowing technique to guarantee smooth 120 bpm?

[@apuherra8864]

Also: I created a Stack Exchange question about that. Check it out and share your knowings to help Martin :) engineering.stackexchange.com/questions/17170/keeping-rpm-stable-with-input-of-floating-rpm

[@loddude5706]

Like a variable pitch air fan as a governor perhaps? (May help to cool the operator on hot days too : )

[@apuherra8864]

I think that air should not be used while transforming the power in a system like MMX. Great losses of energy are added in when no proper pneumatic system and air-proof tubing is used.

[@wezu6729]

Torilla tavataan :DD

[@apuherra8864]

Tortillat avataan :D

[@neuralprobe]

I hope you solve the time regulation problem in MMX in a way that makes you happy because that's an interesting engineering challenge; but please don't lose the magical part were the marble machine gradually slows to a stop at the end! :-)

[@shellywhite3091]

so cool