Self-Reporting Pastoral Misconduct and Mentoring Young Leaders with Kadi Cole

Kadi Cole returns to discuss creating a safe space for self-reporting pastoral misconduct before it starts or before it escalates. Carey and Kadi dive into how this one thing could drastically change our churches.
Plus, Kadi shares why older female leaders often resist younger female leaders, the remaining pay gap between women and men on church staff, and how to equip business and church leaders to mentor the next generation.
----------
Welcome to The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast, a podcast about leadership, change, and personal growth. I hope this episode helps you thrive in life and leadership.
Subscribe to my channel so you don't miss any of the newest episodes: / @careynieuwhof
Find the show notes and more at careynieuwhof.com/episode648
Follow me for the latest leadership insights:
/ careynieuwhof
/ cnieuwhof
/ cnieuwhof
TikTok: @careyniuewhof
Interested in what gear I use to record my podcast?
I list all of the equipment in this blog post: careynieuwhof.com/the-home-st...
----------
Brought to you by:
THE CHURCH NETWORK
Church leaders, the race we're running is a marathon, not a sprint, so don’t go it alone. You're invited to build community and grow with other church operational leaders at The Church Network Conference on July 9-12 in Lexington, KY.
www.thechurchnetwork.com/2024c...
GLOO
Want to break through the noise and connect with people at every step of their journey in faith? And save money while you do? Gloo+ gives you impressive benefits for introducing people to the radical love of Jesus.
Find out more at gloo.us/glooplus
Intro Music:
Song: Alexey Anisimov - Always Be Beautiful
Music provided by Tunetank.
Free Download: tunetank.com/track/4144-alway...
----------
Chapters
00:00 - Self-reporting in the Christian Church
02:20 - Women vs Men in Leadership
07:43 - Developing Women Leaders
11:29 - Leaders in Their Twenties
19:36 - How Did What You Do Become Your Full Time Work?
30:00 - The Momentum Marketplace
30:49 - Importance of Intergenerational Ministry
33:16 - The Next Generation of Christian Leaders
35:28 - How to Coach Older Women on Female Leadership
37:46 - A Message for Leaders in Their Fifties and Sixties
43:19 - Challenging Female Leaders
47:26 - Does the Church Have a Well-Balanced Pay Structure?
49:48 - The Gender Pay Gap
53:03 - What are the trends in the church around women in leadership?
57:14 - Safe Place for Women in the Church
01:00:20 - Moral Failure
01:04:43 - Sexual Abuse in the Church
01:16:03 - Kadi Cole on the Future of Church

[@dawnfrazer7942]

As a woman in ministry, you caught me in the first few minutes! Truth!

[@richarddawson2862]

The Presbyterians in New Zealand have had a self-reporting system for at least 15 years. I know of one case personally and it was handled, I believe, with significant grace and to the satisfaction of the other party. The person involved made a full recovery after some significant time out of ministry. The interesting thing about this was that the whole incident was recognised as a cry for help after burn out.

[@CareyNieuwhof]

Thank you for sharing this Richard

[@ItsSisterAnge]

I enjoyed this convo! Gonna follow Kadi! I am a new grad nurse, and I’ve always felt led to lead in a different capacity beyond the bedside, though I love it, I know there’s more🙏🏾☺️

[@CareyNieuwhof]

You got this!

[@aartiroyan]

Brilliant Podcast! Thank you Carey and Kadi! I particularly love the idea of a performance review on me as a volunteer leader.. so much food for thought . Thank you!

[@CareyNieuwhof]

Our pleasure!

[@ChirpyChat]

Loving this and will replay to listen and learn again. From Singapore

[@CareyNieuwhof]

Thanks for watching

[@garykingsbury4758]

Your closing discussion about churches being Sunday centralists brings up the issue of Sabbath to me. The church pushes that everyone needs to find a serving role on Sunday, as a greeter, helping with kids, and more. Doesn’t this take away from a day of Sabbath because most people work full time Monday thru Friday, then catch up on chores around the home, attending kids activities, and everything else that doesn’t fit for the rest of the week on Saturday? When everyone returns to work on Monday, then the church staff takes a real Sabbath day for themselves. What am I missing?

[@pj773]

For those working on Sundays, to serve the church, Sundays are not the sabbath. You either have to pick a different day, or a different timeframe. Which may be later in the day on Sunday.

[@dawnfrazer7942]

@@pj773 I would argue that volunteer roles that take place on Sunday can be part of the Sabbath practice. Serving and using our gifts for the Lord is entering into a form of worship, and can be completely part of the Sabbath practice.

[@pj773]

“A part” yes. Just as long as it’s not a replacement, which is something I’ve seen.

[@pj773]

Very provoking discussion. In many good ways. A couple questions I have. There was a comment in regards to Gen X mom‘s being able to be a great resource in the church. One challenge is simply speaking, that there are not that many Gen X moms actually going to church. Most churches have a demographic of about 70% 60 and older. Second question, the idea that there needs to be more female leaders may be a challenge in that from most of what I have seen in the church, most of the leaders are actually female. There is just not that many men leading in churches. Percentage wise, it’s about 25%. I’m speaking of the smaller church, of course. And the smaller church is what is the norm. Some of this may be just personal opinion, but I think there’s some truth there. Would love some thoughts.

[@MrStripedsocks]

You know what celebrates a female leader…not making her talk about being a female leader and letting her just talk about being a leader. The podcast title starts at 1 hour. Come on dude. Click bait. Ill still probably buy her book.