Thank you Dave! Your videos are very good. I can recommend the PKS knives to everyone! I live in Sweden but i managed to get my hands on a PKS Grizzly. Its expensive to get it shipped here but it was worth it. Dave has really put in tought behind every model. Everything from the steel, to the sharp edges and the grind. If you are just starting your woodsman career then you have two options. Either you get a Mora Garberg Carbon steel or a PKS.
@dbbeck904 ай бұрын
Gotta say Dave, I love the cycle of this channel. It really feels like I am being taught. The videos gradually become more and more advanced in what’s being shown, and then boom. Back to the basics. It’s like a little break from the advanced courses, and some time to decompress and revisit the core fundamentals. Then we slowly get more gradually advancing videos, until boom. Another refresher of the basics in survival. Really appreciate everything you do.
@asmith78764 ай бұрын
You're killing it with these videos lately, LOVING the map stuff, I'm sure this will be as interesting.
@BobWiley-dn2gf2 ай бұрын
Thank you David! I love it when your more calm like this and when you dont talk so fast.... its easier to understand and stay on track, and you seem healthier in this video wich is good to see. youve been an inspiration for me and i wish the best for you Dave ❤ 2.5 years sober and dual survival got me through the hard part 😊
@jamescrowe78924 ай бұрын
PKS knives are well made and crazy sharp. Just received my PKS Grizzly and I can’t say enough good things about it. I am glad PKS brought it back. This is my 4th PKS knife to go along with my Mountain Lion, Scorpion XL and Camp and Trail. I really like the contoured handles. Very comfortable. I used the Scorpion in an Introductory Survival class a couple months ago that was close to home and it performed well. I guess you could say I am a knife junkie as I have knives from Gerber, ESEE, Buck, PKS, SAK and Mora. Thanks Dave for an excellent product.
@greekveteran27154 ай бұрын
Don't get into the teritory of LT Wright, Bark River, TRC Knives, those are better for collection,for use,you can't get better, than with a Mora and a Swiss army knife!!
@darrinmartin82474 ай бұрын
Dave is the King
@noahsmith89884 ай бұрын
I have a Buck Pathfinder I have had over 50 years in what I do dressing deer or anything else does good on fish to it looks just about as good as when I bought it it's a great knife
@Kangsteri4 ай бұрын
Good stuff. The rat tail tang with birch bark or leather stack that is used in Finnish puukko, is designed to be flexible so you can get more accurate feel of the blade when carving. Puukko literally means wood carving tool (puu is the word for tree in Finnish). Traditional puukko is also usually slightly softer steel, so the blade doesn't chip or brake at winter time. The so called blood groove makes narrow blades more strong by adding more surface and tension to the spine.
@garretmarks8884 ай бұрын
The amount of insanely useful content you come out with very regularly is the reason why this is my number one bushcraft/survival channel of all time
@TracieHunter-v5p4 ай бұрын
Good channel very helpful and every chance I get I purchase pathfinder gear when I sometimes get a little extra spending cash. Helps the channel and also helps add to my collection! One hand washes the other right?
@WannabeWoodsman4 ай бұрын
Always good to have a refresher!
@saritaford36674 ай бұрын
You are so skilled at breaking down the information so it makes sense. As always, while you do showcase SRO's products, the information can be applied for any brand. Thank you, Dave, for all you do for us!!!
@YankeeWoodcraft4 ай бұрын
Crushing it today. Dave's on a mission. Somebody once told me that I should have a Mora as a back-up to my $300 BHK Scout. I told them that the back-up to my $300 BHK Scout was my $300 BHK PLSK1. 😎 Now my back-up is my PKS Bushcraft Basic (which is for all intents and purposes practically a PLSK1 clone). It's literally one of my 3 "never part with" knives. That PKS is a beast with finesse.
@morganblackheart94684 ай бұрын
For me, I like the Becker BK7 for a camp knife, it's a bit big for food prep but it's good for small chopping and splitting kindling. It's not a heavy chopper but it's a damn good camp knife that can delimb well. I also use a Gerber prodigy for small tasks and it's like the perfect belt knife for me.
@greekveteran27154 ай бұрын
Chopping is it's best part,because it chops way to deep for it's size and weight,A bit big for a belt knife, but a really good hard use knife overall. Pair it with a Victorinox SAK or a Mora Eldris and you have all your cutting needs covered.
@morganblackheart94684 ай бұрын
@@greekveteran2715 it's definitely a great knife, it's simple steel and it's really easy to sharpen and you can get it super sharp. My gerber prodigy is my belt knife
@greekveteran27154 ай бұрын
@@morganblackheart9468 Ka-Bar doesn't use 1095.Their steel is Carbon V, which is a more complicated steel, than the very simple 1095. It takes a bit more to sharpen, than 1095 but still an easy steel to sharpen, as aall Low alloys usually are.Ka-Bar sells their knives under the 1095 CV name.but that's 100% marketing trick and not the real name of any steel.They just use the 1095 name in it, because that's the steel most people are familiar with, in the USA market.Don't get me wrong, everything you said is 100% right, I just added some extra info!
@virgilcain81524 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation of various styles of knives. Thanks Dave
@zoltannagy29204 ай бұрын
Excellent video Mr. Canterbury, Thank You !
@jessemccormick78994 ай бұрын
Excellent point about ergos, I don’t care good a blade profile is, if the handle sucks or causes hotspots it will not get used
@WoodsmanHobo7774 ай бұрын
I don't understand why people have trouble sharpening a convex grind, I find it is actually the easiest grind to sharpen. Most of the time the knife only needs honed or stroped but when it needs sharpening I just find the angle and sharpen like any other grind. I know Dave knows this, but I know a lot of people say the same thing Dave just said about sharpening convex grinds which I think discourages people from buying and shying away from convex ground blades. I absolutely love the grind that came on the Jeff White knives. Thanks for another great video Dave. God bless brother.
@SR-qq8ub4 ай бұрын
I think this is going to be a really good series and I'm looking forward to the upcoming topics. I know in your videos over the years you've already covered topics such as knives, knots/cordage, bedding, shelters and so on, but I'm interested in hearing your updated takes on all of these in a more dedicated platform.
@JamieCrickmore-gs9so4 ай бұрын
Great video dave. Thanks for everything you do for us
@jeffrichards51064 ай бұрын
Great and in depth video on knives, Dave. Thank you.👍🏻
@chadsharp13034 ай бұрын
You’re on a roll Dave, good job.
@unclefreedom2134 ай бұрын
Man I've missed your knife talks. I need that HD in my life and on my SRT carrier
@heldenkreuz4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks Dave!!
@alanrice394 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave
@unfi67984 ай бұрын
Great updates mate. Valuable information. Cheers from Australia.
@bluetrue60623 ай бұрын
My favorite is an Opinel knife No. 9 Inox for me. Good basic knife, easily sharpened, easily replaceable.
@ostekuste36464 ай бұрын
My favorite and edc is the PKS Kephart Campmaster edition. I don’t have very large hands, and have some trouble with arthritis. The Kephart does all my daily cutting as well as any chores in the woods or at camp. People are always asking to borrow it, but I usually just do their cutting so they don’t abuse my knife! I started out thinking I needed the big monster survival knife but soon learned what I needed was far from it. I carry a Carbone Opinel pocket knife for very fine work, and if I’m in the woods long enough to need to process firewood I carry a Silky saw. I never see the need to baton or split for kindling, the woods are full of small branches I can snap with my hands. Chopping or splitting is the most dangerous time you will handle any blade, be it a knife or an ax.
@wolfman27024 ай бұрын
Great information. I like that big compass on the lower right of the chalk board. I would need my bifocals to navigate if I had one of those :)
@wolfman27024 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t need
@JAB6714 ай бұрын
Good video as always. That little Eastern Phoebe was sure wound up during the first part of the video. I never heard them in my part of East Tennessee - or at least never noticed - until last year. Now I have one that often spends the night in my shed and has gotten used to me enough that it doesn't fly away when I go in there for something as long as I move slowly and don't get too close. There is no nest, it just sleeps in there, I guess. I've been 'playing' with knives for around forty years and I still prefer the simple steels. 1095 is my favorite but other steels in the 10xx family and some, other high carbon steels are good, too. I also like D2 sometimes. I prefer a larger knife because I am one of those people who can do small knife tasks with a big knife better than I can do big knife tasks with a small knife but one of each for appropriate tasks is ideal. I prefer high saber or full flat grinds on 'main' knives but I almost always put a pretty deep (as in I start it pretty high up on the blade) convex secondary/edge bevel. I can get a convex edge bevel shaving sharp while keeping a good amount of material behind the edge and it is usually strong enough that regularly running it across a small sharpening steel and/or leather belt maintains the edge. Thank you for all you do and all the good, free information you provide.
@ROE13004 ай бұрын
👍 Good advice, well done instructional video. Having said that the 2 areas I disagree with are 1) a stick/rat tail knife will accomplish anything one needs to do with a knife. They have served mankind very well for hundreds of years. And, 2) anybody who has trouble maintaining a convex grind in the field just needs proper instruction in that task. Other than those 2 items I found this video very interesting.
@jwarehouse14 ай бұрын
PKS knives are like buying a custom knife. A really great value. I would recomend offering a few versions with blade length under 4 inches for States with stupid laws. Also offering one with a full flat grind with that new satin finish, which is better for food prep.
@addisonesslinger36534 ай бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks Dave.
@joshtheweedcoach4 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking for videos like this! Especially ones demonstrating all the different ways one could use as knife. Making pot hangers, shelter, tent stakes, and as much other tasks that one could learn and utilize.
@alphaomegasurvivalsupply65484 ай бұрын
Sheath/carry system should be added to that list because thats very important too
@quinntheeskimooutdoors62344 ай бұрын
Good video Dave, thanks.
@jeffmccausland35694 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave.
@KennethEarl-l5w4 ай бұрын
Miss your brother glad to see you doing good
@kingsclownvideos4 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you.
@FishTheJim4 ай бұрын
Great video! When are the woodmuks going to be back in stock?
@jamesvickery3084 ай бұрын
Dave, I think there is something to be said for a saber grind, as well. I have a BHK Highlander in a saber grind that I wear on occasion in the woods.
@wb5mgr4 ай бұрын
If you have a knife with a convex grind and you want to keep it up in the field the best way that I found to do that is to get an old leather belt and get a honing belt light goes on a belt sander like they used to sharpen knives and a blacksmith shop, take a pair of scissors and cut that built in half and then cut a piece the same length as the leather belt you have. Then glue it to the belt with contact cement. Once it has adhered, now you have both a sharpening service on one side and a leather strop on the other side that I recommend you prelude with green honing compound. Then what I would do is just take the buckle and put it over a piece of a tree limb that sticking out or something that you can catch it on and hold it down where it has a little bit of belly and run the knife back-and-forth in long strokes. If it’s not overly dull, it will sharpen right up on some thing like a 400-600 grit belt. If you want to get real finicky about it, you could even have Half of the belt as may be at 600 grit and half as a 2000 grit belt. These belts will last a long time when you’re just dragging the knife over it by hand. Just think about how long they last when being run by machine.
@CausticPuffin4 ай бұрын
I’m probably in the minority here, but I prefer a 2.5”-3” fixed blade for edc/ basic outdoor and light carving tasks. Great video!
@earlshaner44414 ай бұрын
Outstanding subject my friend
@johnduffy65464 ай бұрын
Ahh... The Old Hickory knives. We got a set of these as a wedding gift 46 years ago. I LOVE the high carbon blades. Easy to sharpen to razor sharp and they hold an edge forever...So sad that they went out of business
@proctortoad4 ай бұрын
Just purchased your canteen and canteen cup at rivers edge cutlery. Got a call right after that daughter had pink eye and my wife was taking her to urgent care. My wife was thirsty and didn’t have her water bottle. Needless to say your canteen is coming handy already and I’m not even in the field 🤣
@lancef56364 ай бұрын
A good quality knife everyone should have. Agree.👍🏻
@KrisK-i4f4 ай бұрын
My personal choices are green river hunting knife , mora kanstable and the small bucklite . If I need a heavier knife the Gerber strong arm . But I seldom carry a strong arm because I’ll pack a small camp axe or tomahawk to process wood , it’s unheard of for me to baton with a knife . Yeah , I’ve got a couple “ high quality pricy knives “ but three of the four I mentioned weigh near nothing , take a razor edge easily , hold an edge pretty good and should I lose one somehow , I’ve still got two darn good blades and I’m out less than fifty bucks .
@vinnysandoval31144 ай бұрын
Convex knives are supposed to be easy to maintain in the field, thats depends on the tools on hand obviously. The OG Kephart was a full convex, they used to slack belt sharpen knives to give them a convex.
@demo29524 ай бұрын
I usually have 3 knives on me at any given time. A big beater, a self-defense knife, and something for fine work.
@robertdole53914 ай бұрын
Given the return to great powers competition and peer-on-peer conflict, do you have any Soldier knife recommendations? A WWIII Soldier knife? Something tells me that basic bush crafting and basic wilderness and urban survival skills will be handy for any frontline Soldier in the near future.
@indianprepper24784 ай бұрын
Thanks For revision sir. I will go with HD scorpion
@clarencesmith23054 ай бұрын
I have a knife that I like but is a common hollow grind. Can I follow the edge to the thick part of the blade over the years to create a so-called "scandy" grind?
@stephencarmichael51563 ай бұрын
Buck 119 and 102 my go to combination
@xlargetophat4 ай бұрын
What does Dave think of the tracker knife?
@thomasmusso11474 ай бұрын
👍👍👍 .. basic and easy to understand .. as it should be. What does come out of the Presentation is that there is no perfect knife for all purposes .. hence the 'intent'. There will be compromises alone the way. M first ever knife, my Dad bought for me .. then a pre-teener, back in the latter 1950's. A cheap 'fishing knife' (it's initial purpose) .. carbon steel, full tang, with an about 5" blade (guestimate) and a riveted wooden handle. It served me well for many, many years, and not only for fishing-related chores, but for everything! Perhaps I did not know any better then as it seemed to work fine for practically all chores 😏. Through my teens, military service (14 years) and well into the '80's when it got lost during a Company-Initiated transfer, home relocation. That and a SAK (bought in 1968, which I still have and use) were then, my only two blades. I have more now 😊. The 'Hype' over knives can be at times confusing .. 'what was good yesterday, is not today, and that today, will not be tomorrow' .. often leading many on the Search for a 'Holy Grail', leaving a myriad of discarded blades in their wake 😏. Thanks to Mr Canterbury for this post which will perhaps assist some in making better, more informed and less wasteful choices when acquiring a blade.
@imgadgetmanjim4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I love my pks.
@19Willy674 ай бұрын
No comments yet. Wow. Anyway great info 👍❤️
@homeofinventions4 ай бұрын
Convex doesn't need maintained in the field. A light stopping after use is all that you need.
@tomritter4934 ай бұрын
Oh hell didn't know about the outfiiters scorpion that's a hell of a blade Chris woods let review his man what a blade
@cherokeesurvival83404 ай бұрын
what about old timer sharp point 4'' blade @dave canterbury
@larson00144 ай бұрын
ever going to sell knife blanks again?
@glbwoodsbum25672 ай бұрын
If you can sharpen and maintain an axe or hatchet, you should be able to sharpen and maintain a convex ground knife.
@jwgbmp404 ай бұрын
I have a handful of really cool bad ass knives. I have a kabar from 1989 I used in the Marines overseas, etc.. Ive got some newer ones, expensive, high speed low drag steels, etc. Recently, I found some sort of Morakniv in a chartreuse green sheath, used, at a gun store, for $9.99. Its got a couple funny looking grinds on it. Stainless steel, about 4". Ya know, its the best fukn knife on the planet I have ever found, for under $10..
@InkedCarpenter17764 ай бұрын
❤
@troybridges31464 ай бұрын
Dave...I see you still like your tobacco, huh? Good to see you still doing the damn thang! 🖖
@dennisleighton28124 ай бұрын
4:30 Hi Dave. 3/16s that blade looks a bit thicker than that. You said the previous blade was 3/16, so this looks more like 1/4 or 5/16. In terms of full tang vs through tang, and judging from manufacturer reports, it appears that incidents of through-tang knives (that are not perfectly full tang) suffering handle breakages are very rare indeed. Is this requirement not being overplayed somewhat? Steel: Wow! Controversial indeed, as always. Is the carbon steel requirement also not somewhat overplayed? Also the tendency to corrode is a serious flaw. You mention simple steels - well Victorinox use a relatively simple steel and have done for a very long time, very successfully; Sandvic 14C 28N steel, which meets your suggestion to a tee. Also, some complex steels (like Cold Steel San Mai III blades, and Falkniven blades) have very robust steel at the cutting edge and would very rarely need sharpening in the field, if ever! Again, it comes back to point number 1, "intent". A lot depends on what you want to use the blade for. [ Incidentally, these convex ground blades do NOT have a micro-bevel ] This brings me back to my hobby horse. I firmly believe that for longer sojourns in the wilderness one would do well to have a selection of blades, each for the tasks for which they were designed and made. "One knife fits all" doesn't make sense to me. I'd much rather do without a heavy axe, and carry a Silky folding saw and a selection of knives that will accomplish the same end result under most conditions. My selection: Saw - Silky Gomboy (maybe Bigboy, if processing larger timber). Large blade - CS Trail Master (San Mai III version) - I have one. Belt knife - Victorinox Venture Pro system - full flat grind, 14C 28N steel, 17deg edge, 59 Rockwell hardness. Excellent woodworking capability and feathersticking knife. I want one. Pocket knife - Victorinox Hercules (I see no use for a larger pliers in the woods). Food - I'd even chuck in a small Victorinox paring knife! [At 21 grams - 0,7 ounces, it's worth the weight penalty!] Just some thoughts as I watched your video. Cheers mate!
@gregorywagner94164 ай бұрын
I would never buy a knife without a guard I like the buck knives
@SonnyCrocket-p6h4 ай бұрын
I"ll take a modified Crunch multitool and a few saw blades, to be held in the vise-grip of the Crunch, any day over any belt knife. I'll take a Cold Steel shovel, without a handle, over any hatchet, tomahawk, machete or kukri, any day, too. In an hour, I can make whatever configuration of handle that I need to REALLY get some work done with the shovel. I can wear the sheathed, handle-less shovel on my pack anywhere and not be bothered by any cop. Try THAT with a machete, hatchet, etc. You really should try cooking or digging with a machete or hawk sometime, much less digging a stone-boiling pit, etc. Try sharpening a knife, saw or hawk with the knife , as vs with one of the 2 file blades in my modified Crunch. One of the files is 3 sided, for the saw teeth.. Try carving a spoon with just a belt knife. You'll probably end up bleeding. The hookknife blade in my Crunch handles that job with ease. The medium flathead blade also has a chisel head on it. The small flathead is a two edged drill/awl. so I can make the mounting holes for the shovel handles. you can always make woodedn wedges and baton them into saw kerfs to split logs.a lot better than you can cut or split logs with a knife. I dont even own a belt knife and havent for decades. they are just too minimally useful, comparted to a multitool and when that multitool can hold a REAL saw blade, its utility goes up 4 fold (at least)
@EricCampbellUAV3 ай бұрын
my edc has a pinewood derby car
@outdoorsythings25734 ай бұрын
Bps knifes = crazy value for your $ There better then mora and cost the same or less. And awesome scandi grinds.
@Robert_Thomas8324 ай бұрын
Nearly 8000 viewers and no comments 😮 lost for words courtesy of god like instructor 😅
@JohnVentarino-ey5ln4 ай бұрын
Do you and Codie ever see or talk to each other anymore.
@johnathanrowden80664 ай бұрын
What’s the possum’s name
@brunorojas39924 ай бұрын
What about knife addiction where one cant stop buying knives.
@ChaLy-r4d4 ай бұрын
Hey why does this guy have a hockey puck 🏒 on his head? Just what is up with that?
@drunkwoodswyllia48854 ай бұрын
So Dave, do you and the corporal get together each week so you both can be on the same page! Because both are going back to basics! Just you we will follow if we like ya and you don’t want to sell us $20.00 hatchet for $210.00 and then $200.00 for a backpack! We are confused now out in da woods
@johncalliope1974 ай бұрын
3/16 is thicker than 1/8
@ronfarnsworth70744 ай бұрын
Knife safety and skills are too often overlooked.
@desertfoxxx984 ай бұрын
Scandinavian grind doesn't have a micro-bevel..... Mora has lost it.
@rickwelling98264 ай бұрын
You lost me inch and a half..go back and tell the truth.
@alwayson9994 ай бұрын
Gonna bet your life on the instruction and information from someone who's guilty of stolen valor?
@Andrewmanko-jh7hg4 ай бұрын
That one knife is butchered, taken to a grinder!!
@edrader4 ай бұрын
no BS dave?
@timscarborough75754 ай бұрын
Stolen Valor. Disgraceful. Bah blah
@howardvarley87953 ай бұрын
How many times does he have to cover this same subject??? Must be absolutely desperate for income! ie. Knives JMHO.
@cocovasquez123 күн бұрын
Don’t watch, Super easy. I enjoy all his input and is always good to go back to basics. Stop being a 🤡
@johntheo47294 ай бұрын
Canterbury = National Treasure
@nerminjahic41254 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave
@amateurshooter60544 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave
@doubled39834 ай бұрын
Hello from Oklahoma! The old river rat here. Good video! Lots of good info here. The plethera of knives made for the outdoors these days is crazy. These are the golden days for the outdoorsman, Bushcrafter. Thanks for all You Do! God Bless!
@mrkultra16554 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave
@bobpadrick77184 ай бұрын
A good primer, thank you! Oh, and seeing your square and compass tat for the first time was an unexpected delight. SMIB
@aball2184 ай бұрын
I just noticed that myself and was VERY happy to see it. Safe travels Brother!!
@victormartin660819 күн бұрын
Just say it... your grandmother's paring knife is the best choice.😊
@Ruger44Redhawk4 ай бұрын
My wife and I loved watching you on Dual Survival. Always excellent info. One thing I would add is non-skeletonized full width handle stock knives. For the life of me, I don't understand why companies like Kabar (Becker), Essee and Archetiect weaken their blades with a skeletonized handle tang! Also, you would think it would be cheaper for them to produce by skipping that step of removing material from the handle. The BK9, for example, would be such a better blade if it had full non-skeletonized handle tang. I would not trust my life on it being that I have seen them break at that weak point. I e-mailed Kabar about that and they have no interest in offering a true full tang option. In addition, I never baton a blade. That is abuse of a tool. Use an axe for that intended purpose or scavenge for wood on the forest floor that is plentiful. Cheers.
@Jaden481084 ай бұрын
I'm afflicted with KAS (Knife Acquisition Syndrome), so I have to be careful here. It's sort of like alcoholism insofar I feel the urge to purchase a knife despite receiving a BPS Adventurer in the mail a few days ago. For the record, I do own a Scorpion. One of the best knives I own. Great discussion Dave.
@jonathanfrisbee88894 ай бұрын
This is an awesome intro for new folks as well as a good refresher for those of us older folks! Would be great to see some of these back to basics for Axes and Hatchets too! Thanks Dave!
@duybear40234 ай бұрын
You guys should make a Canadian Belt Knife. I'd buy it.
@HughGard-rc7cc4 ай бұрын
Three minutes in and I just learned more about fixed blades than I knew there was to learn ! I'll be watching this a few times just to get all the info ! I've been a knife guy since my grandad used to give me his chesterfield coupons so I could get a case pocket knife..circa 1965 !
@StevanOutdoor3 ай бұрын
I would add 'area and climate'. If it's very cold or very hot a full tang might not be the best and if you're in a very wet place carbon steel, wooden handles and leather sheaths might not be the best option. I personally see no difference in sharpening a Mora 511 (carbon steel) and a Mora 546 (stainless steel). When it comes to field maintenance carbon steel needs more care. I agree that a true scandi (scandi to zero) is more likely to roll so I always give them a secondary convex edge before use (aka scandivex).
@gwpattrick4 ай бұрын
Yup, I have the camp and trail, and the Scorpion HD and the Kephart. I like the Kephart that's the best.
@arturohammersley97034 ай бұрын
How many "Cutting" tools do you carry? - Fix blade ( Main knife ) * - Folding knife ( SAK or Multi tool ) [ Food prep and eating, fine carving, ? ] - Backup knife [ Neck, boot or merc carry, maybe hidden, possible self-defence? ] - Scalpel [ Sterile, super sharp, emergency backup ] - Utility knife [ Disposable, cut against cement or scraping ] - Hacksaw blade [ Cutting steel ] - Wood saw [ in/SAK or multi tool or Bahco/Silky saw ] - ? * "Two is one, one is none"