Sell your M140i for THIS M135i?! | 4K

Finally meet up with Mike from Motech Performance who kindly gave me the keys to the M135i Motech Edition! A lot has been said about the M135i from the 'M-Lite' groups so I thought I'd wait for the dust to settle before making my own mind up!
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[@ShogunsDojo]

Okay not even gonna lie, the title got me here so fair play. These cars have merit but they’re just like every other turbo 2.0 4 cylinder in the market. I have an M240i but it’s the same car as the 140 really. I’ve spent a little money and fixed the understeer (diff + wider track widths front and rear) and the car is an absolute peach. Nothing else gives 6 cylinders, 6 manual gears and a rear drive chassis so any MX40i owners are likely looking at the incoming M240i or a straight up M car. Great work though.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Appreciate that mate, plenty truths there…my point is that a stock 140i vs tuned 135i feels just as quick and not as wobbly as the 140i feels..the 135i chassis can handle the engine and a tune out of the box as opposed to the 140

[@ShogunsDojo]

@@TimWilliamsHD yeah I agree with you there, everything I’ve done has been to increase control and confidence. With the mods I’ve done the car is more sure footed and stable but turn in and mid corner balance is also much better. These cars have always needed some mods here and there to shine. Guess the M135i needs less of that though.

[@stevealexander6928]

@@ShogunsDojo As Tim knows, ive just bought one of these and i kid you not the grip id fantastic, like i said to Tim it aint no B58, i had the M240i and yes ill miss that sound but what ive gained is much more, the grip, the turn in, the confidence one of these gives is on a different level and yes ive had 2 M240i's both auto and manual, would i swap back? no chance. For all those saying you wouldnt turn to the dark side (4 pot) take one out for a test drive, not just around the block, a propper test drive then throw it in to a corner on the B roads and see how it makes you smile.

[@cliveturner7643]

Test drove a new shape M135i. Walked away with an M140i Shadow Edition they had on the forecourt. Just made me smile an awful lot more 😁

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Fair enough, could probably own one again tbf

[@nazu5998]

Better car hands down congrats 👏

[@gracedavies5716]

Great video Tim! Glad you liked the M135i, I wasn’t sure when these first came out but now I absolutely love them. Great cars 👏🏼

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Definitely, having owned the 140 it’s nice to get out in a hatchback that doesn’t need anything other than a (maybe) tuning box depending on your previous cars to be able to do your usual day to day stuff and still be thrashed on a Sunday morning B road drive!

[@Nath_Buys_Cars]

Great video Tim, Keep up the great work mate!

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Thanks bro, hope you’re well!

[@bimmerflex5526]

Excellent content again Tim. Motech unit so so tidy/clean. Highly desirable Bmw 135M. Styled so nicely. Excellent editing you created. More please. U.K. supports you.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Thanks mate, hope you’re well

[@MotechPerformance]

👍👍👍

[@Madmathius]

Nice video Tim. Would be good to see a stock versus tuning box view. I can’t decide whether to take the plunge. Looking forward to the long teased Motech video on it

[@rh6777]

Warranty is the only concern for me on the box, but will be a nice increase in power and torque

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Thanks mate!

[@XclusiveAaron]

Respect fellow Essex brother! Enoyed the video👍

[@gregor911]

Never and Ever. My 140 is my Little Love

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Great engine and big mistake that bmw can’t take back because no one wants to get rid of theirs now 😆

[@ashrafhossain2715]

Definitely not selling my m140.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Enjoy it mate it’s a cracking engine!

[@rh6777]

Quality mate, thanks. Did the exhaust surprise you?

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Sounds quality mate! Remus all day long!

[@andrewlee5237]

I’ve had my 140 for 3 years and it remains addictive to drive as it did on day one ☝️ I’m sorry to say that I would never make the swap but that’s not to say the 135i isn’t a good car. People keep talking about cars with AWD etc being safer but a car is only as safe as the person behind the wheel. I know the limit of my car in bad weather but I manage its limitations so have never lost control or even come close to it. Good video though mate, you should work for BMW 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Hahah thanks mate! I wish I worked for them!

[@marshmellow377]

I did exactly this. Ditched my M140i for an F40 M135i. Never looked back. Yes it doesn't have the same RWD 6 cylinder engine, but by god it's an improvement/refinement of the 140i The smile I got from the newer F40 series vs the older 140i was just night and day. Ignore the purists. Try it for yourself. The 140i only has 35 more BHP than this M135i, but lacks the AWD. So for me it was a solid winner for the F40. Means I can stick a tuning box on it and get the same power as the 140i

[@Yhyujss]

The m140i is something special because of its flaws it has a personality and character they don't make car like this anymore with this new m135i it has no heart it's just another hatchback competing in the market place with the likes of golf r s3 like you said in the beginning of the video there's no point comparing the two but lovely video

[@samellio]

The new 1 series is a great car, I'd much rather have one than the equivalent Golf or VAG. It's just massively inferior to the older model for the enthusiast. The new 240 gives some hope but it's a coupe and weighs more than an old M5 :(

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Completely agree mate!

[@stevealexander6928]

So Tim....Whats your thoughts on this in the end?

[@TimWilliamsHD]

If I needed an upgrade from a 140 that I didn’t take on track, did the occasional Sunday blast and used 5doors to do my normal day to day jobs I’d happily upgrade knowing I had all year round top grip, a nicer interior, modern looking and beefier car..it definitely would need a tuning box however…I feel a lot of 140i owners naturally know they’ve got a peach of a car which I agree with, but going forward if you’re looking for a 5 door hatch back you’ll be lucky to get rwd 6 cylinder so I feel you’ve got to move with the times…

[@davidkemp6721]

M140i all day long.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Cracking engine, do miss mine..

[@yashofficial___]

I should race this in mine😏😈

[@matth8205]

The 4 wheel drive is a great option but I can’t say I’d want that engine. The 6 cylinder b58 is where it’s at.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Fair play mate, beginning to feel a tad dated though

[@matth8205]

@@TimWilliamsHD do you mean from an interior point of view ?

[@TimWilliamsHD]

100% mate

[@matth8205]

@@TimWilliamsHD yeah the new digital displays are superb

[@BOSKILLZX]

Title triggered me I can’t lie 😂😂

[@TimWilliamsHD]

😆 sometimes savage

[@MotechPerformance]

Little aggressive on the title haha , as long as you enjoyed it .. 🙌

[@TimWilliamsHD]

“Should you*” maybe? 😆 Can tell I enjoyed it! Need a long term review I think next 😉

[@carmad1287]

Sorry but my m140i with a diff, a cheap b12 kit and wider wheels is so much fun and i couldent think of a worse upgrade than to switch to yet another 4 cylinder all wheel drive car, yawn yawn yawn. Im kind of glad you are praising this car so highly as you selling your m140i made me doubt owning mine a bit as you said it never felt surefooted, well i can hand on heart say with the mods ive done it does feel surefooted and its incredible fun. More than can be said for a 4pot 4wd car with traction traction traction. Im not a fanboy, i just like 'proper' drivers cars. This to me is a clinical does everything car.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Don’t ever apologise bud! Remember me selling mine was due to wanting something more track friendly..I absolutely love the Mlites and would happily have another one knowing what I know now about m car handling and I’d learn to drive it accordingly! The title has triggered a few but hey that’s KZbin! 😆 Sell me your 140i for my m2?

[@carmad1287]

@@TimWilliamsHD Haha i love my m140i, couldent see it go not going to lie. I love the road presence and the noise of the m2 and i know out of the box it handles better but im very happy with how my m140i is set up now. I run 245 up front 255 rear and my wheels sit further out than stock about 15-20mm i cant remember the exact figure but they sit close to flush to the arch without rubbing, i feel like this wider track makes a huge difference, combined with lsd/b12 kit and rear bush inserts it is so well set up.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

What wheels do you have? I’d happily have an mlite again as they still have yet to find a worthy competitor

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@carmad1287]

@@TimWilliamsHD Just some lightweight bolas mate 😀

[@jamboSAFC]

Think theres a few who made the jump from 140 to 135 and were seriously disappointed.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Tuned? That’s the biggest thing for me, when this 135i is tuned it feels as quick as a stock 140 and no wobbly rear end

[@jamboSAFC]

@@TimWilliamsHD who wants a predictable car 🤣🤣. Plus the 4 pot sounds shite lol

[@jim8462]

You Should race that against your m2 just to see the difference.

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Wish I had it on track 😆 Maybe Mike will trust me with it one day 😂

[@Orange-label]

Nice review Tim, title a little bit 👺 Still enjoyed as always 👍

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Haha cheers mate, triggered a few I’m sure 😂

[@one40i19]

140 or a JCW with a rear diff. No brainer😂

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Need to try a JCW for sure!!

[@m140iblack9]

Would have to have lost your mind to trade an turbo inline 6 rwd for a fart box🤷‍♂️

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Yes for out of the box performance with no wobbly rear end and perfect daily..my 140 was always needing fiddling about with and I did all I can..engine outperforms chassis without a doubt

[@m140iblack9]

@@TimWilliamsHD sad thing is the m140i was levels ahead of the golfs an other hot hatches in its price range for power,think the new golf r would eat the new 135i

[@b58m23]

lmfao this must be a joke

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Not at all! If you were going to upgrade from a m140 for a new current bmw that offers everything better other than a powerful engine what would it be?

[@kUNCHRIS]

@@TimWilliamsHD X4 M40I 😂

[@legendgalaxy]

Title a bit too aggressive Tim...... video is better than that. Would never buy this over an M140i

[@TimWilliamsHD]

😆 yes I’m hindsight I should have said should…

[@bradofwar5960]

Why on earth would you downgrade to this car? I have an M140i xdrive and no way in hell would I want lesser performance...

[@bloodstockvip2176]

Because you can't get xDrive 140i in UK and the rwd car is worse than f40 135i overall (having had both for 2 years and a little over 18 months respectively). New car way nicer to live with every day imo as daily driver

[@bmwb5858]

Hell NO. why would I downgrade from a silky smooth zf8 paired with the beautiful b58 and rear wheel drive to a Chinese gearbox 4 pot lifeless fart box. NO THANKS

[@TimWilliamsHD]

Haha I knew it would cause some anger 😆

[@biotechisgodzilla4790]

Looks like a tuned family van 😂 never ever gonna change the M140i vs this ugly vacuum cleaner..

[@cfaul100]

Haven't even watched the video and it's a NO from me. Everybody, hang onto your F2x M135i/M140i. In a few years time they'll be worth more than these generic machines.

[@phantom2k10]

Whenever I see this 135i sport(not an mlite) on the road,I put my thumbs down at the driver lol.Such an underwhelming car to say the least

[@TimWilliamsHD]

You driven a tuned one?

[@phantom2k10]

@@TimWilliamsHD nope,but even in this video bro,it's evident that this is an underwhelming car