SELLING my Blackmagic URSA MINI Pro for THIS camera…

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@MattiasBrannholm
@MattiasBrannholm 7 ай бұрын
I sold my Ursa Mini 4.6k G2 to get the Fx6. Two years later, I regret it. I am a shoulder shooter at I just find the Ursa to be a much better solution. It is all in one with their own should rig and view finder that nothing compares with. And I still think the image quality is out of this world. If I was you I would wait til after NAB to make sure BM is not releasing som crazy good Ursa update for a whole lot less money than the Burano. Good luck - I enjoy your content!
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
I always felt the FX6 was not the right replacement for my URSA. I am hoping the Burano is more of a "cine" camera and less of a broadcast camera, feeling more like the URSA, and I just cannot see BlackMagic releasing a camera with AF, IBIS, V-ND, 16-bit compression RAW, and 8.6k full-frame sensors. But I am hoping we finally get the new body design that is well overdue; that will be great for a lot of shooters.
@christophersue1584
@christophersue1584 7 ай бұрын
When is NAB?
@JS_Leger
@JS_Leger 7 ай бұрын
I sold my Pocket 6k Pro + Canon R6 and I bought the FX3 + FX6; but I miss so much the image quality from the Blackmagic. I think I'm going to sell my FX6, keep the FX3 (for gimbal shots) and buy an Ursa 4.6K G2. I mostly do handheld shots (+ shoulder rig). The FX6 is so convenient (AF, Lowlight, Variable ND,..) but it's rare when I'm in love with the image. When I had the Pocket, every shots looked like a movie; the Blackmagic has much better colors, texture & highlight rolloff, it felt much more organic less digital like a real movie not like the broadcast image coming from the Sony's.
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 4 ай бұрын
Now Blackmagic Pyxis is here
@waveland
@waveland 7 ай бұрын
I like the Burano a lot as a system upgrade path. At the same time, after taxes and fully rigged you’re looking at $35k and up, but for those mid-tier FX jobs you mention it will be hard (more likely impossible) to boost your rates to cover the updated hardware. So in my case I’m more interested to see what Sony does next in the FX space, and/or what Blackmagic does with an updated Ursa with CFExpress B slots etc. I don’t think this is the time to rush into a new system unless you’re sure the client work justifies the investment. In six months the cine market is going to look very different with the Burano only the tip of the spear.
@RobertJohnPhotography
@RobertJohnPhotography 7 ай бұрын
Have to agree with @waveland here.
@d_FLDE
@d_FLDE 7 ай бұрын
… one should never include equipment in the dayrate. Equipment rental is on top. Wether it is in-house or external. And one should not buy equipment to maybe get some clients. That is what rental houses are for. Get the equipment that you make money with by renting it out to yourself on your productions
@LukasStumpf
@LukasStumpf 7 ай бұрын
I agree, especially with the Rates. The market right now decreases instead of increasing and the mid range segment disappears more and more. What‘s left are solo shooters and the big big Production houses.
@videosuperhighway7655
@videosuperhighway7655 3 ай бұрын
Burano is gaining popularity in high end adult movies. The new “Super Stepmom battles II” will make use of the Burano.
@videosuperhighway7655
@videosuperhighway7655 3 ай бұрын
Burano is gaining popularity in high end adult movies. The new “Super Stepmom battles II” will make use of the Burano.
@bbrunorocha
@bbrunorocha 7 ай бұрын
the Burano seems pretty nice, but at this price point I would also take a look at the Sony Venice 1. You can find a complete package for around 20k and it also has OG recording which is awesome for anamorphic. I'm kinda in the same boat as you and i'm really considering a Venice !
@NiVoMediaSolutions
@NiVoMediaSolutions 5 ай бұрын
I would love to buy the G2 but I think I will have to get the broadcast version first because it just has so many capabilities that work for my streaming clients. Would be nice to get this version after though.
@888berg
@888berg Ай бұрын
An Amazing Journey!! You mention the IBIS and *Autofocus* of the Burano - but won't you still be using cine glass so no Autofocus?? cheers mate from Australia :))
@georgedoyle8795
@georgedoyle8795 7 ай бұрын
Was at BSC myself and the Godox range was most impressive thing I saw, to have put together such a wide range of lights in such a short space of time is incredible.
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
could not agree more.
@georgedoyle8795
@georgedoyle8795 7 ай бұрын
and those Blazars are incredible too, I looked at the far more expensive "budget" anamorphics and the Blazars were way better.
@Horizons_Roses
@Horizons_Roses 7 ай бұрын
Higher Res / IBIS / AUTOFOCUS is not only a good investiment for you, but you could rent this camera to many people on your days off... It just make sense.
@Slipsch
@Slipsch 7 ай бұрын
I wanted the Burano, but went with the Red Raptor X instead, couldn't pass on the global shutter but tbh, it hasn't been a game changer for me. Burano might suit my need abit better. But gonna stick to the Red for now.
@joachimlucious
@joachimlucious 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, no camera alone is ever going to be a game changer. There are many moving aspects to get a crazy image.
@Slipsch
@Slipsch 7 ай бұрын
@@joachimlucious I mean for the type of work I do, I don't need global shutter. Not expecting anything more. But it feels good to own it I guess. It makes me happy.
@antonstafeyev3606
@antonstafeyev3606 7 ай бұрын
Well Burano is a game changer, internal stabilisation with built in ND filters, autofocus with native lenses, 8k with x-ocn, same dynamic range as any other camera except Alexa 35, basically gets any job done. While red is just a parody on burano
@adamdrakestudio
@adamdrakestudio 7 ай бұрын
Hey. At 1.40, is the BM Assist wired into something or receiving signal wirelessly? Obviously I see the SDK but can’t the wire going anywhere else.
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 7 ай бұрын
I am not surprised that not everyone is picking the Arri over the Burano. Sony pretty much had a monopoly on the small to even larger size projects since a long time now. Especially since 4k masters became really popular and Arri only doing 3.5k open gate upscale to 4k. They have a camera for every size and budget and their cameras are all well proven. I recently shot on the Arri 35. It's great. Really ergonomic on set. Loved every part of the image. But if I would have to invest for myself, I'd go with Sony every time. (Also partly because I sometimes do more cinematic live work like streaming big budget weddings and Sonys just work well in live environments.)
@Lunar_Films
@Lunar_Films 7 ай бұрын
I’m an s5 ii user, always been Panasonic since the gh5. I mainly shoot weddings and gigs, everyone seems to be Sony who I meet! You think it’s worth switching to Sony?
@harlemwoodstudios
@harlemwoodstudios 3 ай бұрын
As a LUMIX shooter (2 GH5, 3 GH5S, GH6, S5ii, HCX2000), I run into Sony shooters all the time as well. I often wonder if I should switch systems. But the cost does not seem to match the returns as of now. So I feel it’s financially wise to stick with Panasonic until a budget permits an overhaul of gear.
@KeytoKungFu
@KeytoKungFu 7 ай бұрын
The Lumix is just great
@jaysnappsmediallc
@jaysnappsmediallc 7 ай бұрын
I tottttttally agree with this. This is my dream camera at this moment. Great choice.
@antonstafeyev3606
@antonstafeyev3606 7 ай бұрын
Honestly Sony is a go to camera for even some big production, because it gets the job done. Just keep in mind it has crazy ir pollution, so when filming outdoors try to block light and relight with nova or 600d to cut it
@astartup
@astartup 7 ай бұрын
From what I hear on KZbin, clients would rather use SCinetone because it's good enough and they don't want to or know how to or why there is a need to color grade. It puts the Sony cameras at the top of the hill for contract-based work. People know Sony, Canon, and Panasonic, but they have no clue what the other companies are, so you have to pick one, and which one has the best autofocus and "color science" at the consumer price point will probably win because more people are familiar with the name.
@sixofsix
@sixofsix 7 ай бұрын
Burano, nice camera. However I'd have to go with the FX6. The image quality difference between the two is not worth the ticket for one, and more importantly for two, I'd rather have 3 FX6s vs 1 Burano.
@AllThingsFilm1
@AllThingsFilm1 7 ай бұрын
I've been thinking of the Burano as a dream upgrade for me. If I can ever afford it, I will be extremely thrilled.
@raymondharrisoncomposer
@raymondharrisoncomposer 6 ай бұрын
I’m purchasing 4 ursa cine 12k for making my Gospel music videos!
@OBP_
@OBP_ 5 ай бұрын
That's a lot of hard drives lol
@paulnbrenda358
@paulnbrenda358 7 ай бұрын
Quite frankly I don’t think any client is going to know what camera you’re using. Last year took my BMPCC6K with cage lens handle ssd and battery pack only two cables and left the monitor home. Tried to go in the Roman forum and they said no professional video equipment allowed. It was the look! Yet a Sony A7S3 that cost twice as much is allowed? Like I said no one really knows what name brand equipment is be used
@roscosart1888
@roscosart1888 7 ай бұрын
The audience doesn't care either, 98% of the people that watched the creator don't know what camera it is. The 2% that know are just pixel peeping filmmakers
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
I agree that a lot of the corporate clients I work with don't really know, although they do know who Sony and Canon are but also don't care. When getting hired as a DP, etc., producers and directors do know, and that is why the Arri brand name is so important. I am hoping the Burano gets a similar reputation as the Venice, but we can only see.
@covingtonrace1
@covingtonrace1 7 ай бұрын
Nice choice, the fx series was my next option
@YoungNino2017
@YoungNino2017 7 ай бұрын
I'm an editor who works with Ursa footage... and it objectively is flawed. It reminds me of a $99 camera you'd see for sale in 2002 that is marketed as "HD" but it's only technically 1920x1080 and the picture quality apart from that is a blurry mess. The Ursa is like that, it looks weird... the footage frequently has weird lines in it, the grain looks like a grid pattern rather than natural grain. Anything out of focus in front of the lens just looks low resolution rather than just out of focus. Often times a go pro looks better than the Ursa.
@tinyhousecreatives
@tinyhousecreatives 7 ай бұрын
Nice feedback - out of curiosity what footage do you like the look of?
@johnsospencer
@johnsospencer 7 ай бұрын
That's awesome, I think I'd miss my raw whitebalance and exposure tools though...I'm also an URSA MINI G2 4.6k shooter.
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, man. I haven't used it but Sony has their own RAW that is 16bit internally, as opposed to BRAW 12bit. So on paper, it should be even better when changing all the raw settings in post-production. Be sure to update when I use it.
@ginnodizon6551
@ginnodizon6551 7 ай бұрын
i dont need to sold my ursa mini 4.6k g1, i love the dng on it, the i even had the blackmagic 2.5k and 4k lunchbox did not sold it, i love having it with me. ill keep them ill just get a komodo or komodo x thats it.
@LukasStumpf
@LukasStumpf 7 ай бұрын
Sold my 12K OLPF Ursa last week, hoping BM will release a new ursa in the next year. New shape, new sensor and so on. But right now I think BM won't do anything. The Burrito Burano is the best sony cam atm!
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
I would love nothing more than for BM to drop that ultimate camera, but realistically I just can't see BM dropping anything in the range of the Burano (16bit RAW, AF, IBIS, V_ND) but am still hoping we will get a new body design but it will probably mixed in with some strange choices knowing how BM work.
@LukasStumpf
@LukasStumpf 7 ай бұрын
Yeah absolutely, they always have so much potential and the last years I just though: WHYYYY haha@@OBP_
@AdamLangdon
@AdamLangdon 7 ай бұрын
I'm on the edge of selling my 12k. I'm still getting work with it, but I know the value is gonna drop even more when the next BMD camera launches. I'm a BMD apologist at heart, haha, so I'll get whatever they come up with next. Hopefully by second quarter!
@LukasStumpf
@LukasStumpf 7 ай бұрын
@@AdamLangdon yeah, Feel that. But the value drop with ursächlich is insane. You get almost nothing for it here in Germany when used💀
@prostigeMarketing
@prostigeMarketing 6 ай бұрын
​@@AdamLangdon why are you selling? I'm thinking of picking up the olpf to pair with my 6k pro
@loudandclearmedia
@loudandclearmedia 7 ай бұрын
I'll be the flier here and say I do think the Burano is a bit overpriced. Yes, I know its feature set, and as a camera package it looks awesome, but right now, I see its main competitor in function the C500ii, and its main competitor in price the Raptor. While C500ii has few less features, it still has most of them, big resolution, internal RAW, and is now WAY less expensive than Burano. In the case of the Raptor, it lacks many of Burano's features, but the Raptor's image walks all over the Sony (from what I've seen), let alone the prestige that RED brings, which it absolutely does. All that to say, I don't think Burano is a bad choice...just maybe not a shoe-in obvious one for a lot of people. After all, there are some REALLY nice cameras in that $20K-$30K price point.
@SamLucas26
@SamLucas26 7 ай бұрын
I think the Burano is the most compelling cinema camera that Sony has ever made. I'm NOT a fan of the workflow of Sony in general and I HATE shooting with the FX line, so I just don't use them when I have the option not to (not a statement about the quality of the products and what they produce, which is great by the way, they're just not my preference from a workflow standpoint). But I think the Burano is going to go gangbusters for them. It's a really compelling option for a lot of reasons and a lot of those mid to high mid jobs in the commercial, narrative, and doc space.
@tudormakesfilms
@tudormakesfilms 7 ай бұрын
the workflow of the camera itself or the editing workflow of the files? thx
@SamLucas26
@SamLucas26 7 ай бұрын
​@@tudormakesfilms Both, frankly. BUT mainly the actual use of the camera. I'm a DP so I don't handle post production except for on smaller client projects where we handle 100% of the process in house in which case we're either shooting on Red or Canon as we own a C300 mark iii, C500 mark ii, and Red V-Raptor. But most of my work through agencies, the agency sets requirements for camera specs because they're handling post so we have to go with what the agency requires which leads to us working with Sony sometimes and I just really dislike it relative to other platforms we work with (Red, Canon, and Arri predominantly).
@tudormakesfilms
@tudormakesfilms 7 ай бұрын
@as26 i agree. i love the autofocus on the fx3 tho. it creates a whole other realm of creative work. and once you get a hang of the fx line, it can be an incredible piece.
@tudormakesfilms
@tudormakesfilms 7 ай бұрын
it is an incredible camera, and it has all the tools to get you where you need. for documentary work and a lot of hand heald comercials, i would def go for thr ursa line with a lumix s serieis full frame as a second camera. @@SamLucas26
@SamLucas26
@SamLucas26 7 ай бұрын
@@tudormakesfilmsyeah, I think for solo op stuff, they’ve got some great offerings for sure. We never use autofocus. We shoot almost exclusively on cine primes with a first AC pulling focus off camera so no autofocus anyways (although we are playing with LiDAR autofocus on our manual lenses which has been pretty dope). Sony, no doubt, makes some great tools though
@Shuttterbugg
@Shuttterbugg 7 ай бұрын
I love the panasonic its the next cam I'm getting the fuji sh2 or the panssonic s52x...but ya a 40000 camera is gonna beat alot
@ni7suj
@ni7suj 7 ай бұрын
Was my first guess as soon as I saw the title. It is amazing.
@FilmFlab
@FilmFlab 7 ай бұрын
Are you keeping your S5II, or are you moving fully to Sony? 🤔
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
Defiantly not. I'm going to get 1 or 2 E-mount lenses for the Bureano, but I'm going to be using it with my PL-mount cine lenses most of the time and keeping my Blackmagic full frame and S5ii as my B and C cameras with all my L-mount lenses.
@FilmFlab
@FilmFlab 7 ай бұрын
@ Good to hear! Because all three have Sony sensors, I bet all three will match very well. I'm a fan of your channel! Congrats on the Burano!
@MichaelPerez83
@MichaelPerez83 7 ай бұрын
Oh! I'm gonna love to see some Burano content. That's a great camera!
@lumixS5M2
@lumixS5M2 7 ай бұрын
Link to that new lens?
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
Apologies; I forgot to add the link. You can find it in the description now.
@lumixS5M2
@lumixS5M2 7 ай бұрын
@@OBP_ Thank you, i cant see it yet Only pointed to Panasonic not to Cinelens. BTW nice camera you get. yesterday first time real life i see ARRI filmset
@KianourKianmehr
@KianourKianmehr 7 ай бұрын
with all respect, the audio on your video somehow is disturbing. Love your content. Thank you man
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
Sorry about that, thanks for letting me know i will have a look to see if i can find any issues.
@BampFilm
@BampFilm 7 ай бұрын
It's your boy Arri Arri
@Sethmotley
@Sethmotley 7 ай бұрын
I thinks it’s overpriced and the image quality is no better than a BMCC6K $24000 vs $2500🤔
@joachimlucious
@joachimlucious 7 ай бұрын
I second this. I’ll rather save up a bit more for a used arri Alexa because it’s the industry standard and owning that camera will get your jobs as a dp. I see the rave about the autofocus but in reality most people including myself who invest in Cine cameras invest or often use Cine glasses with no autofocus capability. If it’s Sony and it’s not a Venice, i wouldn’t spend so much on it.
@leeevans1874
@leeevans1874 7 ай бұрын
Get the alexa fella . I have blackmagics on a personal level , last 2 shorts I've shot on the LF , last music video on an fs6 and so disappointing on the look of it finished. Can't talk about the new Sony but I havnt seen a Sony image yet that isn't smoked by the arri .
@Sethmotley
@Sethmotley 7 ай бұрын
@@joachimlucious you’re absolutely right I’m more on board for a used Arri mini any day.
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
I will be sure to do a video comparing them when I get my hands on one.
@Sundirre
@Sundirre 7 ай бұрын
Bmppc6k has great quality image, but it is in no means professional camera like burano
@corerage
@corerage 7 ай бұрын
Wish you luck mate. However I think the Burano is way overpriced. Sensor wise, it's much worse in latitude and dynamic range performance than the Ursa mini pro you sold. You could see the tests conducted by CVP and cined. Codecs wise, there's nothing to speak about really. No comparison to 12-bit BRAW with highlights recovery. If IBIS and autofocus are what you seek. Then I think the FX6 is a better buy for your needs. Looks like you're more of a documentary shooter than a narrative filmmaker. So it's understandable why BM, ARRI and RED cameras wouldn't suit you. But Burano is way overpriced for docs IMHO. And it's far worse than say REDs in the same price bracket for narrative filmmaking.
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, I will be sure to run some proper tests vs the URSA when I get my Burano, am interested to find out how it compares, from my previous test, I find the FX6 to have pretty much the same DR as the URSA so should be a good video VS the Burano.
@ohdeazy1567
@ohdeazy1567 7 ай бұрын
The only problem with the sony BURANO is the lack of slow-motion Impossible to shoot 8k 50p, it’s a shame But otherwise yes the camera is just amazing, ND filter and stabilization and autofocus in the same camera it’s just crazy
@Shuttterbugg
@Shuttterbugg 7 ай бұрын
Ya of coarse, but the 12k Ursa mini is good enough for 99 percnet of filming bri....the burano is insane though the only camera that other than venice looks like a film and not digital like all Sony camera look idc if it's t he a7s3 every footage from aony looks Luke a digital image..red bm and arri dont..even fuji sh2s looks better then any sony other than burano and venice
@dennisbalagna
@dennisbalagna 7 ай бұрын
6:58 for those of us who live life on the go.
@MachinaExplorer
@MachinaExplorer 7 ай бұрын
i find ursa to be the worst camera of the bunch far too clunky for me best off going with the sony
@chicobraz4335
@chicobraz4335 6 ай бұрын
You will regret that decision , remind me here in a year. Burano is over priced and over hyped
@Calvarydima
@Calvarydima 6 ай бұрын
Crazy . Sony bewitched you )))
@chrisjenkins9978
@chrisjenkins9978 7 ай бұрын
Your new choice of camera was obvious. 😂🤣😂😅
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
haha
@Motoko_924
@Motoko_924 7 ай бұрын
bro is rich
@OBP_
@OBP_ 7 ай бұрын
Bro is not rich because he spends way to much money on camera equipment.
@FrankNazario
@FrankNazario 7 ай бұрын
you reeally need to work on your diction... great video actually awesome video... but bro, come on.
@charlybread
@charlybread 7 ай бұрын
Ursa all life❤
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