Send Back To Lee Or Home Engineer A Solution??

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@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 10 ай бұрын

Proper engineering technique right there! A master craftsman would increase the hammer size until the problem went away, one way or another! 👍🏻

@DummyRound 10 ай бұрын

Easy fix! Have a great week, Mr.Cookie 🇺🇲👍

@jesseboutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Bad thing is if you send it back to Lee they make you pay the shipping. I’ve had warranty issues with RCBS twice and Frankford Arsenal once. They said no problem and shipped it. Now to me that’s better customer service than Lee.

@riflesfirst208 10 ай бұрын

I broke a small part or two on Lee products and they sent me a replacement at no cost.

@jesseboutdoors 10 ай бұрын

@@riflesfirst208 they wanted me to pay 65-75 to ship my Loadmaster press back to them. Then my Lee auto drum they wanted almost 20 to ship back. That’s ridiculous. Then my friend got a bad turret from them and want 15 to ship it back to them for a replacement.

@sherwinstaudt1881 10 ай бұрын

RCBS is a great company, never had much issue with their product for the last 50 years, the little that I did have they took care of it right away no cost to me.

@Almost_Made_It 10 ай бұрын

I’ve had to go through lee CS a few times. I’m done with it. Shoddy QC and then expect me to pay half the cost of the product in shipping fees. Nope.

@jesseboutdoors 10 ай бұрын

@@Almost_Made_It they want 65-76 to ship a loadmaster press back. Nope I’m not doing that.

@johnwesley8327 10 ай бұрын

Love Lee reloading equipment. Their universal decapping die is great, the decapping rod is nearly indestructible. Glad you had good luck with your mallet, LOL. You've got the best reloading channel, good luck.

@kerrystrunk3194 10 ай бұрын

it's not just Lee , had the same problem with RCBS shellholders , when you have machines running 24/7 eventually things get out of spec , I'm sure they'll make good for it , and as reloaders sometimes we have to improvise , that's what keeps it interesting !!!

@rufus-h4h 10 ай бұрын

My experience with Lee is they make great products at reasonable prices. And they stand behind their products. This situation could happen to any manufactured product where an unnoticed burr could cause problems. You were able to solve the problem yourself, but if you couldn't, I guarantee that Lee would have replaced it. When I get good service, I tell everyone about it.

@viejo2a 10 ай бұрын

Easy fix! I had to do a ‘home fix’ recently too. It was a fix suggested by Lee tech support and it worked. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸

@patmancrowley8509 10 ай бұрын

I had a burr on my Lee Multi-stage press that was causing the machine to shake on the return of the handle to the upright position. I found it and used a stone on it. Smoothed it right up and now there is no shake or problem.

@aaronpatterson1658 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for addressing this, I've had the same issues with mine. And found the same solution you did. However, when I put the show holder in it does not always want to seat squarely and sometimes tilts to the side and needs realigned. Not the best setup, but works for now.

@martinswiney2192 10 ай бұрын

Lee has always covered any problems I have had and very few problems at that.

@dennisjwest.7016 10 ай бұрын

Been using Lee products for years,,,,yes I have broken things ,,,and they have replaced parts for free,,,, watched their prices double over the years,,,but the customer care is fantastic. Thanks Brenda for all the help over the years

@matthewwebster2697 10 ай бұрын

Sadly, I've been using Lee products since 1988. The quality of Lee products have been going down hill since then. Right now, having spent a ton of money with Lee, due to the crap that they've descended to, I'll never spend another penny with Lee.

@jw3946 10 ай бұрын

This was my solution as well when a shell holder does not fit. Great job.

@frankwright5528 10 ай бұрын

Great channel! Something different today: FC45LC, the Russian Mechanic... Love it!

@KeithJackson-nw7bl 10 ай бұрын

Looks like you are fully relocated, Steve. Missed you in the office the other day. Wishing you and Jan a wonderful retirement.

@allthingsconsidered3211 10 ай бұрын

Ive had lots of problems with lee presses, but decent results with die sets.

@Hillbillyz1 10 ай бұрын

Give them a call and explain the situation they will probably send you one for free. Great company to deal with.

@beekeeper8474 10 ай бұрын

Nope they charge for replacement parts warranty is a joke

@Ensign_Cthulhu 10 ай бұрын

Nice fix! If it had been steel, I'm sure you could have got someone to do a touch-up job on a mill. I would think it very likely that the shooting and reloading community and the home metalworking community have a strong crossover.

@danhunik7949 10 ай бұрын

Just another fine example of Lee quality control and why I try to steer clear of their products.

@saltsea9499 10 ай бұрын

If the primers seat concentrically, excellent job and show us the rounds with the primers mounted properly

@richhauxwell7848 10 ай бұрын

I actually have an old Lyman shell holder thats a bit oversized for some applications, luckily it has an X on it to differentiate from the others

@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 10 ай бұрын

I've noticed quite a bit of variation in the dimensions of the shellholders when I went to make my own adapter for them. I usually just take a cratex wheel to polish the neck and shoulders a bit. I suppose you could do the same to the mount. I'd sooner do that than deal with rolling a burr and galling the part in place by force.

@JohnnyBallou 10 ай бұрын

While you have to be very, very careful, I've found my dremel to assist such tiny modifications! When my 209 primers didn't seem to fit Mag-Spark percussion adapters in my Ruger Old Army, a helpful person there pointed out variation in 209 primers was the cause! Now I just have to use red wax to keep them from falling out off the loading slot!

@Buddygold9509 10 ай бұрын

Had the same issue with a Lee turret for the turret press. Had a really bad burr. Mill bastard file and about 10 minutes, all fixed.

@hardball107 10 ай бұрын

Good solution, the cost of shipping it back would not make it worth it. I love the Lee Ram Prime, I use it as a problem solver or for convenience. I usually prime off the press with a hand prime but if I need to do a single round or a just few out comes the Lee Ram Prime instead of changing over my hand prime. I also like the ease and feel of seating the primers with it.

@Eatherbreather 10 ай бұрын

Was it problematic with other shell holders too?

@mitchellcox1912 10 ай бұрын

Good job and information on that. Thanks

@michaelkaiser1864 10 ай бұрын

Glad to see you FortuneCookie!!!

@mikehenthorn1778 10 ай бұрын

percussive maintenance for the win

@thetexasrat 10 ай бұрын

Now I’ll round out with a few horror stories - {these are not meant to scare you away from reloading but rather to encourage you to always follow all the safety precautions and heed the warnings in the manuals for a safe and long Handloading journey}. Any Shoot Will Do, The A-Square Handloading and Rifle Manual, page 16: Let’s start with guys who didn’t read the safety chapter. All of these are real incidents involving experienced reloaders. #1, A commercial handloader producing handgun cartridges in quantity used to begin his day by filling a coffee can with primers to pour into the machine. He would pull out each tray and, with a flick of the wrist, empty it into the can. One day he used too much flick: one primer went off, initiating a chain reaction that filled the air with shrapnel and cost him both his eyes." [a commercial reloader that thought about how many rounds he had loaded and never had a problem whereby he did not bother with safety or safety glasses, until one day he wished he had taken heed to the warnings, but it was too late by then.] The Complete Handloader, John Wootters, page 37: The Power of Primers Never under estimate the potency of priming compounds. ... a workman at a priming manufacturing facility was carrying a bucket of loose primers ... and the whole bucket detonated. ... they never found any part of the workman except his shoes. An acquaintance of mine had ... about a hundred rifle primers detonate in a plastic medicine vial in his left hand. He lost his hand and the sight in his left eye, and he underwent a series of operations for cosmetic repairs to his face, arm, and upper body, suffering a great deal of pain, a staggering financial setback, and the loss of part of his livelihood. He was a gunsmith. Primer Precautions Such tragedies illustrate the inherent explosive power of small-arms primers, but they can be avoided totally by understanding and adhering to a few simple precautions. The first is never store primers in any kind of container other than the original factory packaging. The second is go back and reread that last sentence several times. Do not keep live primers, however few, loose in any sort of miscellaneous container, and most especially not one made of glass. A fellow KZbinr told a story of hand priming in his Lazyboy chair when one went off. They found the lid to the primer tray stuck in the ceiling above the chair. According to the story it had just missed his face. So be extra sure not to have it aimed at your face when hand priming with these tools. And safety glasses would be a very good idea as mentioned throughout all the reloading manual over and over again. And upon these notes I hope you have a blast, the good kind that is.

@james_lessick892 10 ай бұрын

Outstanding

@dp-sr1fd 10 ай бұрын

Here in England we would say "Gi' it some 'ommer" In the West Midlands that is.

@Oldhogleg 10 ай бұрын

My RCBS press rams primers while case forming so you don't have to do a separate step for priming. A significant time saver.

@ronaldjohnson1474 10 ай бұрын

All Lee presses come with the ability to prime when sizing. This Lee tool is meant to prime batches of fully cleaned brass.

@derherr65 10 ай бұрын

Is it just the extreme close up that shows the shellholder rocking, or does it have as much play as it appears? I get that machined part 30 thou tolerance click-click with barely perceptible visual movement with an RCBS shellholder in a rock chucker.

@thomasozminkowski2589 10 ай бұрын

Dont worry the Three Stooges solved many problems with a mallet! ;-D

@kochj0713 10 ай бұрын

At my house, we call that the hammer of Thor takes care of all problems

@johnhale9686 10 ай бұрын

Like they say "Force it if it breaks it was screwed up anyway"

@jungleno. 10 ай бұрын

I had a similar problem with a shell holder from another company not fitting into a Lee Challenger press. It took quite a bit of grinding on the shell holder to make it fit. I have three Lee pro 1000s and three Lee challenger presses. One of my Pro 1000s is over 30 years old. They’re all great machines. Better than my Dillon 550.

@claiborneeastjr4129 10 ай бұрын

All needed was a little persuasion!

@ezrabrooks12 10 ай бұрын

Good Video/Info Cookie!!!!!!

@30roundclipazine79 10 ай бұрын

Sadly just about everything you order from Lee nowadays needs some work to make it right. Their prices have also increased to the point where I buy all my molds from NOE or Arsenal twice the quality for a little more money. Not to mention I've called every day for the last week and a half and nobody answers the phone there. Probably half my dies are Lee but I started buying the green brand a few years ago.

@burtbacarach5034 10 ай бұрын

Rubber mallet machining!Nice!

@aidshusten240 10 ай бұрын

i would send it back because you already pay them for the development and production of an item that should do what its payd for. Very easy otherwise money follows no more principles

@Billbobaker 10 ай бұрын

did you try a different shell holder first?

@bobbyb7127 10 ай бұрын

Lee gets cheaper and cheaper every year. I have some Lee dies, etc. But only as a last resort will I buy from them.

@GeorgeSchoonover-n5q 10 ай бұрын

Lee products are cheap for a reason. I learned my lesson a long time ago.

@robertfrapples2472 10 ай бұрын

Where you been, buddy?

@ernvhalik3933 10 ай бұрын

Fortunecookie have you ever had powder fume Like acid it was imr 4166

@yukon4545 10 ай бұрын

What happens if you turn the lock ring 1/8 of turn loose? Guessing the body, being aluminum, flexes.🤷

@Mike44460 10 ай бұрын

Why would you not use a hand primer? It's so much faster than this method? I'm confused.

@thetexasrat 9 ай бұрын

It has nothing to do with speed, but rather safety. Any tool that holds more than one primer at a time can be extremely dangerous (See my other comments below that contain quotes from many reloading manuals about primers and auto priming systems). Some of us choose safety over convenience and speed.

@thetexasrat 9 ай бұрын

A little bit about different brands and types of primers. Which ones to use, when and why. All CCI and Reminton primer, plus Winchester's small pistol are the safest to use in automatic priming tools. Federal burns hotter and cleaner, yet are according to the Richard Lee manual "one tough dragon to control in the automatic priming systems". Modern Reloading Second Edition Richard Lee Revised 2021, page 60: To find out why some brand primers explode violently, I talked to an expert, Dave Anderson, now retired from CCI. He told me primers are charged with one of two types of charging compound. One is called "basic" and the other is "normal." The primers that use "basic compound" must not be used in Lee Priming tools because an accidental discharge is very violent. The "normal compound" is less violent and causes little damage to the tool. The user is easily protected by safety glasses. Metallic Cartridge reloading, Robert S. L. Anderson, page 20: In the firearms industry there are two types of lead styphnate primer compounds - "normal" and "basic." There are presently four manufacturers of primers in the U.S., and all of them except one uses the normal lead styphnate primer compound. Federal is the only manufacturer that presently uses basic . The common ingredient to all small arms primers is lead styphnate of which there are several different varieties. Basically it is in crystalline form and is very explosive. Normal lead styphnate is composed of large irregular crystals, which are slightly acidic when wet, somewhat more brisant at lower temperatures (good for military use), and they burn with a cool flame at ambient temperatures. However, it is somewhat harder to get an even mix of components in normal lead styphnate primers because of the larger irregular crystals and the fact that the "mix" often requires some metallic fuels (such as powdered aluminum) to help make a magnum primer. Basic lead styphnate is composed of small regular crystals and unlike the normal mix is not as acidic and will not attack primer cups when wet. Basic lead styphnate is easier to mix than normal variety and there is no need to add metallic fuels. The basic primer flame is very hot and will easily ignite most powders and therefore Federal does not offer a magnum pistol primer. However this style primer is slightly less brisant at very low temperatures (- 20degrees F. to - 40 degrees F.) which would make normal primer more suitable for military purposes. Metallic Cartridge Reloading, All New Third Edition, M.L. McPherson, page 29: Certain brands of primers might be unsafe to use in some priming tools like Lee's AutoPrime because of the potential for mass detonation. With these tools, should an operator detonate one primer, as can happen when a handloader tries to seat one primer on top of another, the detonation subjects other primers in the tray to shock and an incandescent flash. If this shock and flash can detonate a second primer, there is the potential that most or all (perhaps 100 or more) primers in the tray might detonate en masse. Such a simultaneous detonation would be a disaster. Lee has tested all available primers and, excepting CCI and Winchester, all brands produce an unacceptable number of mass explosions when the primer being seated is forced to detonate (by heating in a remote explosion-proof box). By comparing Federal and CCI primers, we can gain some understanding why brands very in this regard. Federal primers do not have a foil covering over the primer pellet; an application of a type of paint replaces the foil. That sealant is easily ignited and highly flammable, possessing a very low kindling temperature. These are beneficial characteristics; among other things, they help reduce combustion residues. However, use of this pellet sealant makes these primers very easy to ignite. Exposure of the open front of the cup to the flash from an adjacent primer easily does the job! Conversely, CCI primers have a paper foil almost completely covering the front of the pellet. This foil deters pellet ignition because it is only moderately combustible and has a relatively high kindling temperature. A short duration flash from a primer is unlikely to ignite the foil or penetrate through it to ignite the pellet underneath.

@thetexasrat 9 ай бұрын

Three things to keep in mind here, “primer dusting” + “static electricity” = “ka-BOOM!” VihtaVuori Reloading Manual 4th Edition, page 96: Handloading is an enjoyable, rewarding hobby that can be easily carried out in complete safety. However, like any human activity, carelessness or negligence can create hazards. Handling primers and powders correctly is at the core of safe handloading practices. Do not store large quantities of primers in bulk! Doing so will create a bomb! Primers kept in bulk can explode en masse - the explosion of a few hundred primers is equivalent to throwing a hand grenade into a room! Do not use excessive force when loading primers into equipment, primer tubes, or seating them in cartridge case primer pockets under any circumstances. Take special care in filling and handling auto primer tubes - they have been the source of many explosions. Metallic Cartridge Reloading, All New Third Edition, M.L. McPherson, page 6: FORWARD ... ... never forget that when handloading ammunition you are dealing with energetic materials and devices capable of bringing great harm and destruction. I am constantly reminded of the dangers primers present. One regional ammunition manufacturer formerly demonstrated this fact to all new employees at the company's annual picnic. At 200 yards, he would set up two targets: one was a company coffee cup with 200 primers in it; the other, two sticks of dynamite hidden behind a similar cup. He would then explode each target with precisely placed shots ... The question the group was to answer: "Which was which..?" And the answer was not obvious! page 29: Primer Safety If there is one area of deep concern, it is safe handling of primers. I don't understand how it happens, but people are always finding ways to set off a primer unintentionally. Stories abound of handloaders, managing to mass explode them. These incidents often involve hand-held priming tools or automatic primer feeds using a tube of stacked primers. The handloader can treat primers with all manner of disrespect, but sooner or later he will pop a primer unintentionally. If that happens to be intimately associated with a large group of primers, the results can be devastating. Even one primer by itself can inflict a severe wound ... ... ... page 30: Handle primers with the respect these little bombs deserve and follow all safety precautions provided by the manufacturers. Always wear safety glasses when handling primers. Swift Bullet Company Reloading Manual Number two, page 38: The Basic Rules for Reloading Safely Introduction Read all available books on reloading. Make yourself as knowledgeable as you can. page 40: Primer Handling 5. Do not dump together in bulk. There is a risk of mass detonation if one is ignited. 6. If resistance to seating or feeding of primers is felt, STOP and investigate. DO NOT FORCE PRIMERS. There have been instances of “primer dusting” in the tubes of reloading tools. Clean machine after each use. Lyman 51st Handloading Handbook, page 29 and 39: CAUTION: Primers are explosives and require special care handling. page 28: CAUTION: Safety glasses should be worn whenever handling primers. page 58: CAUTION: Always wear safety glasses whenever handling primers. Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading 11th Edition, page 85: Primers are the most active, potentially dangerous component employed in reloading. You can get into trouble with them handling in such a way as to discharge them … Nosler Reloading Guide 9, page 44: DO NOT FORCE PRIMERS 9. There has been instances of “primer dusting” in the tubes of reloading tools. Clean after each use. Barnes Reloading Manual Number 4, page 44; Norma Reloading Manual Volume 2, page 146, under “Primers”: 6. If resistance to feeding or seating primers is felt, STOP and investigate. DO NOT FORCE PRIMERS. 9. There have been instances of “primer dusting” in the tubes of loading tools. Clean after each use. Berger Bullets Reloading Manual 1st Edition, page 104: The safe reloading of ammunition is largely based on the use of common sense. page 106: Always Clean up After Each Reloading Session Debris will collect and it can be a safety hazard. It is therefore, important to clean up your work area after each reloading session. Safety always comes back to the use of common sense. If you ever find yourself in doubt, stop, research the question. Lyman 51st Handloading Handbook, page 59: CAUTION: Primer feeds require extreme care. … … handling primers one at a time is a safe procedure. However, primers handled in bulk are a potential hazard. Should you choose to use an automatic primer feed, extreme caution is required. … … Should one primer explode, all will do so spontaneously with disastrous results. Even a few primers exploding can cause serious property damage and personal injury. Many high volume reloaders feel an auto primer feed is a necessary part of their equipment. If you think you number among these folks, use extreme caution when working with an automatic primer feed. CAUTION: Never push, bang, bump or otherwise apply any force to a primer or primer feed. CAUTION: When using an automatic primer feed, at the first sign of a primer jam or difficult feeding - STOP! Then think about what must be done. Force nothing and do not be tempted to jiggle the tool or any part of it even slightly. Rather, carefully disassemble the primer feed. First remove the primer magazine and all primers contained therein. Clear the jam, determine the cause for the jam, and correct the problem before proceeding with use of the primer feed. page 60: CAUTION: Extreme care must be used when filling a primer feed magazine tube with primers. Never force a primer into a pickup tube. A pressure of no more than five pounds should be required for a primer to slip into the tube. Do not use any primer pickup tube requiring more than this amount of force. CAUTION: Primers can and do “dust”. CAUTION: Static electricity may cause primers to explode. Hodgdon Powder No. 27 Data Manual, section 6 -10, under "Handling Primers": They demand the respect and careful handling due any device containing explosives. Primers should never be handled, used, ... in bulk, since primers in bulk can explode simultaneously. ... ... ... Precautions should be taken to avoid buildup of static electricity on the person when handling primers or conducting handloading procedures. Loading equipment should be electrically grounded. Speer Handloading Manual Number 15, page 41: Static electricity and the Reloader 1. Static electricity can be highly hazardous for the reloader. 2. primers are most sensitive to static charges. The energy is enough to ignite primer dust in and around priming tools. The dust can ignite and propagate to all the primers in the tube [or tray]. The result is a serious explosion. This is the reason to keep those tubes [and trays] clean! 3. Static charges prefer low humidity environments. take some simple precautions. a. Use a humidifier. b. remove carpets from reloading areas. This is the prime source of static energy accidents. c. Clean the reloading area on a schedule. Routine cleaning removes residues of primers and propellants that can react to static energy. d. Use an anti-static product[s]. Modern Reloading Second Edition Richard Lee Revised 2021, page 59: Tony Sailer from CH Tools gave good advise about primers. “Reloading is pretty safe, until you handle primers in quantity.” Tony, a commercial reloader, visits other in the business. He says look at the ceiling above any powered reloading machine and you will see holes above the priming station. Primers in a tube explode with great force and unpleasant regularity. Jim Hulbert, retired from MEC, tested shotshell primers in a seamless tube. When the bottom primer was intentionally detonated, a 1X6 overhead looked as if it had been hit with a 12 gauge shotgun at close range. page 60: Accidentally drop a tube full of primers to a concrete floor and you are going to have one heck of a bang.te. page 30:Certain brands of primers might be unsafe to use in some priming tools like Lee's AutoPrime because of the potential for mass detonation. With these tools, should an operator detonate one primer, ... ... ... the detonation subjects other primers in the tray to a shock and an incandescent flash. If this shock and flash can detonate a second primer, there is the potential that most or all (perhaps 100 or more) primers in the tray might all detonate en masse. Such a simultaneous detonation would be a disaster. Lee has tested all available primers and , excepting CCI and Winchester, all brands produce an unacceptable number of mass explosions when the primer b

@thetexasrat 9 ай бұрын

@jeffhuntley2921 10 ай бұрын

BFH comes through again:)

@livincincy4498 10 ай бұрын

People complain about Lee and their warranty. They require you to pay shipping. This is to discourage fraud. This permits them to price things where the do. Dillon is so locked into its legacy costs from warranty cost burden they made the 750 a 5 station press. RCBS & Hornady have upped their warranty to Dillion No BS warranty level. I have no idea about Lyman’s warranty.

@JohnDoeEagle1 10 ай бұрын

Ever since Mike Dillon died in 2016 their prices are really starting to climb up there. I have my old first RL-550B, and couple year old RL-550C and a couple year old XL-750. I also have two (one old/one newer) RCBS Rock Chuckers, Redding T7 Turret, Lee 90045 single stage, MEC 600 JR 12 Ga, MEC 9000GN Grabber 12 Ga. If they keep that up people will stop buying them and get something else. I remember when a RL-550B all decked out was around $300. By the time you buy the (modern replacement RL-550C) press and outfit it as you would want you are $750 - $1,000ish +/- into it now. Dillon is also one of those companies that raise/hike their prices EVERY single year. I understand things go up with inflation and you have to give your employees raises. Your customers shouldn't always have to absorb all of those costs on US though. It don't cost you $45 - $200 (depending on the equipment) MORE to make it in 2024 than it did in 2023. Really............. If the others tried pulling that crap they wouldn't sell anything at all and likely be out of business.

@T.A.B.Videos 10 ай бұрын

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@derekp6636 10 ай бұрын

sounds like some extra slop from poor manufacturing tolerances. Nice fix!! Percussive maintenance ;).

@stangaloski4208 10 ай бұрын

Anyone got a hack to seat an FTX bullet with dillion dies? Current seater smashes flex tip and leaves a hell of a ring on bullet. 44 mag 225 grain

@fjb4932 8 ай бұрын

I recall something along the lines of lubing the inside of the seating die with oil or Vaseline, dropping melted wax inside and running a bullet up into wax while it's still warm to form a mold of the bullet. The lube is to expidite removal of the wax mold. Once i figure out how to send pictures and drawings vice text clarity will increase . ☆

@l.a.3887 10 ай бұрын

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@3dtexan890 10 ай бұрын

Aluminum was the worse thing that LEE has done. I bought some of their Breech Lock Bushings and they were aluminum. They were total junk. I always used LEE and would recommend them for reloading equipment, but not any thing like the bushings that are aluminum. Beware of aluminum in LEE products.