Seneca Dragonfly shooting test - 1st impressions, 1st problems

[@ericstough6513]

mine is sick af i love it. i took the forward barrel band off of mine and replaced it with a 12mm inner diameter carbon fiber tube which i slid down the barrel to the rear sight barrel band and then torqued down on it with the thread adapter to make a tensioned free float barrel and now i get groups slightly smaller than 1/4 inch center to center in .22 at 20 yards (or 60 feet)

[@airgunsofalaska]

Right on! It sounds like I was on the right track In later videos after noticing the excessive barrel movement on this gun. I sent mine back for a refund as it wasn’t accurate past 35 yards and I really didn’t like the pumping action. Really cool that you got yours sorted out.

[@ericstough6513]

@@airgunsofalaska yeah it's basically a multi-pump Diana stormrider. It's my first pumper since the old crosman 2100 so I kinda went all out on it lol

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@ericstough6513 I was initially pretty excited about this gun even with my first issue. But after time I became frustrated with the lack of long range accuracy and I felt I was misled by the stellar reviews from the big, sponsored YT channels. I replaced this gun with a Benjamin 397S which has been extremely accurate out to 50 yds. I do miss the excellent trigger on the Dragonfly though. It has a ton of potential and a lot of great features and a good feel. Nice to hear it can be modified to be improved over stock.

[@carlfechter1082]

I replaced both the larger pin there and the smaller pin with the roller with machine screws and lock nuts. The problem is you have to hone out the stock a little to accommodate those. My c clips fell off the first time I used the gun. No problems since the fix.

[@TurfSurf]

Looks like the new production batch has better and improved quality than the initial batch.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@TurfSurf That’s good to hear!

[@precisionrodentcontrol_PRC]

I’m jealous! Been wanting one since released. Looking forward to see what you think of it.

[@precisionrodentcontrol_PRC]

I drop the “L” meister-koo-gen 🤷‍♂️

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@precisionrodentcontrol_PRC 😄 ha ha! I totally need to figure out how to pronounce it properly. I have one more full tin left.

[@airgunsofalaska]

I’m a little bit mixed on my feelings about the gun tonight. I prefer the pumping effort of my 362 over this Dragonfly. BUT… this gun is very accurate and easy to shoot accurately. There are many things to like for sure. 😀

[@Indiana424]

Indeed! Congrats! Had my eye on this one for a while now.But my love of pcps, we shall see!

[@jasonnealey8325]

Haha exact same thought. I can buy this or a 25 cal Beeman underlever for 60 more dollars 😅😅

[@airgunsofalaska]

Thanks! I can see where guys could get pretty into PCP’s. I own 3 PCP’s but use a hand pump so I don’t tend to shoot them very much. I REALLY hate pumping them up. I just don’t yet want to go to the level of buying a compressor.

[@jasonnealey8325]

@@airgunsofalaska I did it in steps . I bought a 1/2 liter bottle and valve and hand pumped to 3000 psi over 3 days of intermittent pumping . I was able to fill my home made 2240 pcp 14 or 15 times by just dumping 1000 psi and refilling from there . However it's a bitch to pump a 1/2 liter bottle . So I bought a compressor for cheaper than you paid for the Dragonfly , it only had 1 button to operate fan and compressor and failed on the 1st try . I was watching a torture test of the Vevor compressor by walnut and Steel and liked what I saw . I returned the spiritech compressor and which cost 180 bucks and bought the vevor for 230 bucks it works fine but I did have a leak in the filter part of the hose and had to use plumbers tape , after that everything worked perfectly. I figure it takes around 700 to a 1000 bucks to be up and running with a gun in pcp , call it 270 for the gun , 45 for a pump , 100 for a bottle and valve and 200 to to 250 on the econo side for a compressor . For my tiny resiviour 2240 pcp it takes 22 pumps with the hand pump to get 7 shots that are higher powered than the dragonfly it's just I like going out and shooting in the forest and carrying the hand pump you need a snowboarders back pack to carry it . It's been a full year since I built my own pcp trying to get away from Buying Co2 all the time . For me it hurts less to buy the needed items for pcp fun in stages . Now I can consider some of the nicer pcp guns for purchase, pretty sure the Beeman Bullpup in 25 cal will be my next purchase. When the tax return comes . I like getting guns I think will go up in price . I bought my crosman icon for 199 bucks and now I see they go for 270 . The Beeman underlever is same the next lowest-priced Bullpup is 600 bucks from Benjamin . I currently own the 2 pcp carbines I built myself from 2240 pistols and my Crosman Icon with a Buckrail-line Chasis installed. Take the hassle out of pumping by getting a compressor and you are golden

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@jasonnealey8325 I actually meant for my comment to be directed to Indiana Airguns. I just can’t get excited to buy an air compressor that’ll require maintenance and eventually wear out far sooner than any airgun I buy. Plus it’ll take up space in my garage and make me feel like a slug and too lazy to pump up my gun for use in what is already a very sedentary sport. Spring or gas piston guns don’t provide the recoilless experience that is so enjoyable when shooting a pneumatic or PCP airgun. Hiking around carrying a heavy, oversized bicycle pump in a backpack is unappealing to me.

[@yoitired]

Woo nice pick! I was just thinking today I must have lucked out with how good my Stormrider trigger is, guess it's not just me lol. One of my first impressions was how precise and smooth the trigger and action felt, whoever is making these parts is doing a nice job. Hopefully the pump parts will stay together, I'll watch how yours holds up before I take the plunge 😆

[@airgunsofalaska]

I really like the trigger on this gun. I didn’t realize how much of a difference a good trigger makes when shooting long distance until I was shooting it at 50 yds after the video last night. My stock 362 trigger simply doesn’t compare. I have reservations about the pump linkage longevity over time. But it also doesn’t seem to have as much stress on it while pumping so we’ll see. I quite like the gun and plan to shoot it a lot more. I’m curious if my initial hang ups with aspects of the gun will go away with time? Right now I’m not a fan of 15 pumps for full power.

[@yoitired]

@@airgunsofalaska I just came in from shooting the 1101s, the trigger is so bad it's like going back to cave man times vs the fly/rider lol. I was surprised you found the Dragonfly pumping about equal to the 362! The 362 isn't bad for pumping, I just assumed the Fly would be much better, guess that's what they wanted me to think😄 I had been taking some mental notes on the power differences between the pumpers, if I got it right the Dragonfly gives you around the same power per pump as the 362 and anything over 8 on the Dragonfly is just gravy. Any issues with Crosman pellets jamming in the mag? I found they tend to cus they're short and the mag chambers are long to accommodate heavy pellets. I tilt the muzzle up and give it a shake to slide the pellets to the rear before cycling and that stopped the jamming, idk of other mag systems are like that.

[@greyfoxag]

The pumping action on the barra 1866 is very smooth

[@airgunsofalaska]

Interesting gun, I just looked it up. 👍

[@antithesis0]

I picked one up last winter, loved it. it broke in well and shot great, was my long range rifle. After 300 or so pellets the pump mechanism started to bind, it was lubed but, kept getting worse until it really did bind. I was able to barely close it, almost bending everything and sent it back to Air Venturi. 5 weeks later i get it back, put my scope and suppressor on it, within 6 shots, it binds up again... I sent it back again for "re-evaluation"... will see what they do, i really did enjoy the rifle. Maybe just got a bad one, i hope they replace and not repair it this time.

[@airgunsofalaska]

Initially I started off quite enamored with the gun (aside from the pumping action). But as time progressed I grew to dislike this airgun more and more with time. I never could warm up to the awkward pumping action but, more critically, the accuracy was not acceptable past 35 yards. I cover the issue in follow up videos and finally just gave up on the airgun and sent it back. I had reservations about the lightly built pumping linkage so your experience is very interesting. To me that’s unacceptable. My department store quality 42 year old, Crosman 760 has thousands or shots though it and the pumping linkage still works just fine. The seals are now worn but the mechanical linkage is solid.

[@bigd835]

@@airgunsofalaska thank you for your honest evaluation.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@bigd835 thanks! My the end of my experience with the gun I was pretty perturbed at how some of the big YT channels hyped this thing up.

[@wizonkiz]

Love mine....took a rasp along the pumping handle to take care of the sharp edges,

[@airgunsofalaska]

That’s not a bad idea 👍

[@JohnLong-ch1mc]

Bought one about 2 months ago. You don't have to close the pump all the way. You can stop about an inch from closing it all the way. Its my favorite gun. I put a cheap CVLife scope on it and its been awesome. Have fun..........

[@airgunsofalaska]

Thanks for mentioning that! 👍 I totally forgot about that feature and was pumping it that way later on last night after making the video. I remember Expert Airgun Reviews demonstrating that method in one of their videos. It definitely helps allowing for a better grip on the pump handle.

[@JohnLong-ch1mc]

@@airgunsofalaska Yeah it takes a little practice to keep from pumping it all the way. I agree when you pump it all the way closed there is like a suction that makes it hard to break it away.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@JohnLong-ch1mc I was comparing it to my other pumpers earlier today and I like the way traditional pneumatics pump up. I think I’ll get used to it but right now I’m not a big fan. I like how my other pumpers just throw open the forearm on the upstroke. The Dragonfly pumping doesn’t feel natural to me.

[@whspioneer89]

I like the looks, handling and shooting of my dragon fly mk2. Like yours the pumping action on mine has been quirky. Once it felt like it had locked up mid pump. I oiled all the joints and it pumped better. Then the screws came lose on the pump handle. After retightening it has been ok so far. It is easier to pump than my Benjamin’s when going to higher power shots. I have noticed as well that it takes some force to open the pump. I have some arthritis in my hands and this pump makes it a little uncomfortable since a firm grip is needed to pull the pump open. But overall I like it. I ordered a 100 year anniversary Crosman 362. When it arrives I’ll have to see how it compares to the dragonfly.

[@airgunsofalaska]

I greatly dislike the nature of its pumping action with that resistance present when pulling the pump open. I noticed yesterday that it’s smoothed up a bit but still doesn’t pump as easy as my 362. If Crosman releases a regular production version of the 362 with the wood stock I’d order one. I really like the 362 and a nicer stock would be a great improvement over the creaky, flexy plastic version.

[@randyhardy3692]

Mine had a real thick grease in it and was a bitch to pull open at first I used pellgun oil and it's loosened up a lot now much better

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@randyhardy3692 During the time I had this gun before I sent it back it was loosening up with use. But, even at the end, it was still more difficult to pull open than my Crosman 362. I found my 362 was easier to pump than the Dragonfly, plus it only needed 1/2 the pumps for full power.

[@daveanddanniejacobs9432]

Dude that is a bad ass air rifle. Plain and simple

[@airgunsofalaska]

You should totally buy it then.

[@milesstover3724]

ive got my rifle now and I also have some complaints but ive also found some things i like. I need to secure the pump handle better, imo this is the worst point of quality on the rifle is the securing screws attaching the pump to the wood handle. HOWEVER -- i am thinking i might use this rifle as a dedicated dieseling rig. Making o-ring repairs is pretty simple on this gun -- I started unintentionally dieseling this rifle and got the FPS to a screaming 1075, with NO supersonic crack or louder noise , still very soft and suppressed shot even at a dieseled 1075fps. Thats extremely exciting to me from a ballistics perspective -- 1000+ with lead 14.3s, quietly, with minimal recoil, and even when seals give out they are easy to reset.

[@airgunsofalaska]

I’ve never heard of dieseling a pneumatic gun before. As I recall the Seneca had an o-ring located at the breech and the pellets would rub on it as they loaded. I wasn’t fond of this system. I like the probe to be equipped with the o-ring for sealing. I think that’s a less trouble prone layout.

[@milesstover3724]

@@airgunsofalaska yeah I didnt do it on purpose. I sprayed a bunch of Clenzoil into the wooden pump handle recesses. I think it worked its way into the gun because my Chronograph started giving me full power velocities of 850, 900, and then the peak was the 1073fps reading. Still shot quiet and soft even at 1073 I was amazed. Not dieseling it anymore though at all because the Dragonfly Mk2 is running great after Ive broken it in and tightened the rifle up and polished it all out. Its giving me 715-725fps at full power which im thrilled about. Making open-sights impacts at 70yd freehand with this thing at full power. If I can work out a couple other quirks on this thing its going to be a keeper i think

[@johnperugini2963]

Hey great review! A regular guys point of view, thanks.

[@airgunsofalaska]

Thanks! I felt I was misled about this gun by the big YT airgun channels.

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

Congratulations!🤠🇺🇸

[@airgunsofalaska]

Thanks! It’s definitely got potential.

[@jasonnealey8325]

Thanks for posting I remember this pumping mech actually originated on a Beeman or Sheridan riffle so it's not a new mech , I guess the reason Benjamin didn't sell many was it added a 100 bucks to the original cost which new went for 60 to 80 bucks add another 100 just for easy pumping most people passed on the deal . I guess the patent lasped after 11 years do now anyone can use the design. It's a nice looking gun in my opinion.

[@airgunsofalaska]

That’s really interesting! I was looking at the linkage and it’s just a parallelogram. Earlier tonight I was thinking of why someone else hadn’t come up with it before? I’m not certain that I’m sold on the concept. I was shooting it more tonight and 15 pumps for full power kinda sucks. I *think* I’d rather do fewer hard pumps than more reps of easy pumps. I know for certain I like my 362 better for pumping effort and it only needing 8 pumps for full power.

[@pricelessppp]

I got a 30ft range for my pistols and a decently long side yard for my pcp rifle.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@pricelessppp how long is your side yard? I like shooting my 2289 Drifter carbine but the way I have it set up, 20 yds is kind of the sweet spot for distance.

[@pricelessppp]

@@airgunsofalaska I think around 50ft.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@pricelessppp the Dragonfly would be overkill for that range. Not that it wouldn’t work, just that you can buy less expensive guns to shoot accurately at that distance. A modded 1322 would be a nice gun for that distance.

[@frankm1776]

Hey champ. You need to clean the barrel and put some oil on all the linkage hinge points and a drop or two on the felt wiper in the pump tube BEFORE you shoot it. This will take care of the "grittiness' as you put it. Also. the pump handle screws may need to be tightened as they tend to work loose. Also, it is possible to adjust the trigger to get a better break point. But I don't advise it for anyone who is not mechanically inclined. Also, make sure you keep an eye on the muzzle adapter. It has the tendency to come loose while shooting. This can affect accuracy and you won't know why until you discover it. Put a couple wraps of teflon tape on the threads or a drop of blue locktite to keep it from working loose. Other than that, its a great air rifle for the price.

[@airgunsofalaska]

Like the vast majority of airgun owners I shot the gun just like it comes out of the box. This gun literally started falling apart on the first day. A loose muzzle adapter wasn’t the cause of the inaccuracy I experienced in later videos, the barrel brace assembly doesn’t prevent the barrel from moving. For the price the gun is a junk show. An airgunner would be much better off buying a Benjamin 392/397S. That gun is far higher quality and much more accurate for long distance shooting. A Crosman C362 is much easier to pump than the Drangonfly.

[@frankm1776]

@@airgunsofalaska I own a Seneca Dragonfly MK2 and have no problems with the airgun. The forearm hardware were a little loose when I received it new out of the box. A little locktite and good to go. Accuracy is the best out of all my air guns, and I have vintage sheridan blue streaks and Crosman 1400 and 392 aire rifles. The MK2 is way easier to pump and very nice to shoot in my opinion. I think you just got a bad one.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@frankm1776 Perhaps, that’s always a possibility, but I’m skeptical. I’ve not seen any videos showing it being consistently accurate at 50 yards. My Benjamin 397S is consistently accurate at 50 yards. I also absolutely hated the pumping feel of the gun. That was ironic since low pumping effort is the most touted feature of the Dragonfly. I found it to be a total gimmick. My Crosman 362 is easier to pump, plus doesn’t require twice the pumps for full power. The only good thing that came from my Dragonfly experience is that I learned what big KZbin channels make shill videos. After it and my Crosman Magfire Extreme purchase and return I know what KZbin channels are completely full of shit in their reviews.

[@daveanddanniejacobs9432]

All compound bows perty much have the same clips. It happens from time to time. But when you weigh out everything in comparison to a .17 hmr or a .22 rifle I honestly believe the advantages of a good ole Sennaca Dragonfly pellet rifle is worth its Weight. No doubt.

[@airgunsofalaska]

Oh yeah, it was easy to fix, just annoying to have to do so seeing how it was brand new. It has a lot of cool features and is pretty innovative compared to what Crosman/Benjamin & Daisy are currently offering in pneumatics. All said and done if I could only buy one I’d get a Benjamin 397 or 392 depending on what caliber you want. It’s a really solid gun, well built and my 397S was night and day more accurate than the Dragonfly. But the Benjamins take more effort to pump but you don’t have to pump them as much. Basically I’m pretty jaded towards made in China airguns at this price point. I’ve had a number of them and didn’t find them to live up to the hype of the sponsored YT videos.

[@justinholoviak5357]

I feel lucky. Mine came functioning flawlessly. Put a Donny ronin on it and whisper quiet shots. Took the old oil gunk out and replaced with clean oil. But seriously there are way too many reports of misaligned pumps, loose parts, bad barrels, etc. Nothing like the solidness of past Sheridans. If you get a good one and keep the pump mechanism shiny and lubed be grateful. That seems to be the summary of reports on manufacturing issues

[@airgunsofalaska]

It definitely doesn’t have the build quality or solid feel of a Sheridan or a Benjamin. I’ve not spent any time looking for other reviews or write ups on the gun since sending mine back. I’m glad to hear I wasn’t the only one who had problems. I did really like the trigger on the Dragonfly. Initially I was quite taken with the gun but my experience soon soured. I think I’d have kept it had it been more accurate at longer ranges but I never cared for the feel of the pumping stroke. Overall it performed better than the Mag-Fire I briefly had before it. But the Dragonfly was outperformed by the Benjamin 397S I bought to replace it.

[@justinholoviak5357]

@@airgunsofalaska yeah. I’m enjoying the thing but it’s flimsy and more of a driveway toy I use to not add wear and tear to my compressor. I should have bought a Sheridan or the 100th Benjamin anniversary gun. Sturdier. I wish they added another $100 to the gun with quality control and tougher metal for the links to the pump.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@justinholoviak5357 I was pretty disappointed in the whole pumping affair considering that was the major selling point of the gun and the big YT channels fell over themselves hyping that aspect up. The linkage is flimsy and because you have to pump it twice as much as a older Benjamin or a Crosman 362 for full power, I’m not thinking it’ll hold together as well over time. I really like the concept of the Crosman 100th anniversary 362, just not the $400 price. 😆 If they’d release a plain Jane version with the wood stock I’d buy it in a second. I liked the innovation the Dragonfly brought to pneumatics. Hopefully some other companies take note and start releasing some new pumper models.

[@pricelessppp]

Nice review! Would the 1322 be a better self contained plinker? And if so what’s the pumping effort like?

[@airgunsofalaska]

Thanks! It would mainly depend on the distance you wanted to shoot. The 1322 is easier and faster to pump. This Dragonfly is really accurate and really easy to shoot accurately. If you wanted to shoot things out to 50 yds and wanted a Crosman I’d get a 362 and modify it. I don’t care for the looks of long barrel 1322’s. I like it much better as a carbine or a pistol. It’s too early for me to say whether I think the Dragonfly is the best pumper in this price range. My biggest hang up is the 15 pumps for full power. BUT… it’s a really accurate gun!

[@scotthanson4200]

will this new style air gun stand the test of time like the older sheridans and benjamins have done. the look of this one looks cool but i will wait on this one and see if its still around after a couple more years the pump linkage has too much going on which seems troublesome after alot of use. and built in china l dont have one gun that is from china. some things should be done in the usa like it used to be with craftmanship and pride. a well planned out air gun and tested built in the usa. daisy company in the day was just that. a good example.

[@airgunsofalaska]

Absolutely! 👍

[@daveanddanniejacobs9432]

I would think the sights are adjusted for 10 pumps at 25 yrd

[@airgunsofalaska]

That wasn’t my experience. I suspect there is no real standard for how they come out of the factory? For 20 yds I didn’t see a need to pump to 10 for that range. If you watch the rest of my videos on this gun I ended sending it back for a full refund because it wasn’t accurate out to 50 yards. Basically the longer the distance the less consistently accurate it got with a scope. I also grew to absolutely hate the pumping feel and having to pump to 15 for full power. My 362 is way easier to pump and only requires 8 pumps for full power. I can’t and won’t recommend this gun based upon my experience with it.

[@peteralexben]

its made by spa ,the same base serie its known as pr 600 co2 .and pr900 pcp

[@airgunsofalaska]

I just looked those up, Snow Peak Airguns, very interesting. I stumbled upon a forum post from back in ‘17 where guys were saying how SPA was coming out with guns with features that people wanted. They were upset that Crosman wasn’t keeping up. I’d have to agree. Thanks for commenting! 👍😀

[@natesmith5393]

It's an interesting gun for sure....still, for that money, I'd rather have a good piston or c02 gun; speaking of great Chinese guns, my buddy has a QB78 tuned by the late, great Gene Sunday over twenty years ago and that thing still shoots great and has an amazing trigger.....I sold mine to my cousin years ago and regret it now... From what I've seen, the Dragonfly doesn't really perform THAT well power wise vs number of pumps, but maybe they vary a bit...if you mount a scope, be careful of the smallish receiver and watch the front sight barrel band...I've heard those can create barrel tension and affect accuracy....might have to remove it in that event.. I really hope you get that Crosman 2200 up and running again; I've always want one of those guns...hehe I think Henry Ford sells seal kits for $20-30 or so, plus he can rebuild guns too if need be .. Beautiful spot you're in up there too...we have mountains here too, in NH, but not like that ... wow. Keep up the good work and thanks for the content.

[@airgunsofalaska]

I’m wondering if something happened to my gun since installing the scope. Towards the end of my last video on it the accuracy just went away. It started shooting quite erratically, like flyers one after another. This all with using the same pellets out of the same tin. I’m going to clean the barrel today and see if that cures it. I’ll check the front barrel band. I was very pleased with the accuracy initially and even started thinking this was going to be my new favorite gun when I first started shooting it. But now that I’ve spent time shooting it the weird pumping action and need for additional pumps is getting really old. Hopefully the pumping action smooths out over time so it has less resistance on pulling it open. If for some reason the pumping action gets worse this gun will,end up gathering dust in a corner next to other airguns I found I don’t like shooting as much.

[@airgunsofalaska]

I’ve not forgotten about my 2200 Magnum 😄. Just keep getting side tracked with other projects, guns and things that come up. Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

Niceeee enjoy 😉👍

[@airgunsofalaska]

Thanks! I shot it some more tonight after making the video.

[@tripleooo7881]

How much it cost ?

[@airgunsofalaska]

Overpriced at $200 for Chinese made junk.

[@a234633]

Just wish the manufacturing was better to many with bad guns

[@airgunsofalaska]

I came away from this experience pretty irritated at the big KZbin channels that proclaimed how great this gun was. One of those channels said it could be looked at as a successor to the Benjamin 392/397 line up. What a joke the “Just facts, no fluff” guy is.

[@silvaresl]

Is that all the extension you get when pumping it? I was watching Rick Eutsler's Channel and the pumping arm seems to extend further. I'm leaving the link to the video in case you want to compare how far the pumping arm goes. Cheers!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5y2eqKid8R1aLc

[@airgunsofalaska]

I watched all his videos on this gun before I ordered it. I think that maybe my camera angle made it appear that I wasn’t getting as much extension? I just watched that video in your link and didn’t think mine pumped any differently. I shot it some more tonight and I’m not sure I’m 100% sold on its “easy pumping effort” design. It’s certainly easier to pump up than a Benjamin and marginally easier than a Crosman 362. But 15 pumps for full power gets old quickly.

[@ahmondeboxley2950]

It makes too much noise when pumping I can't hunt with this

[@airgunner0335]

I don't like the pumping design it's too bad that clip came out

[@airgunsofalaska]

I’m glad I ordered it through Amazon as returning it was no hassle. I don’t miss it at all and I replaced it with a Benjamin 397S. I much prefer the 397S over the Dragonfly.

[@airgunner0335]

@@airgunsofalaska I'll look into it I have 3 Avengers but I like to change it up sometimes

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@airgunner0335 the big downside to the Benjamin is mounting a scope is a hassle and the only really decent mount costs around $50 from Baker.

[@airgunner0335]

@@airgunsofalaska I'm ok with open sites for close shots

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@airgunner0335 unfortunately that is the big problem with the 397S & 392S. The new synthetic stock has way too high of a comb to shoot the gun comfortably with iron sights. It isn’t like you can’t, it’s just quite awkward and unpleasant.

[@armandogonzales9304]

GET YOUR OWN CHRONOGRAPH!!🙄

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@armandogonzales9304 what is the point of this comment?