Sentinels Zander RUMOR as M80 COLLAPSE Again?! 😳 VCT News

[@2ainn]

Losing twice in grand finals of ascension is probably a death sentence for m80 as a org too, wonder if they will continue in ascension.

[@oah1943]

remember RA 13-0'ed and still lost ascension... twice. M80 is just paper rex wannabe

[@crxsby2047]

Chalk the whole org, it's cursed at this point😭

[@thegamingsession3102]

PSG.LGD of Dota2 left the conversation...

[@risky7672]

@@oah1943 How are they a "PRX" wannabe? They've been doing this since Ghost Days..🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Chure-val]

Depends on what the org is gonna do, sadly for sports and competition in general, they wont remember the losers, only the winners take it all. And considering its a expensive venture that only comes to fruition if they win the tournament for ascension... yeah, hard to determine now if the org is gonna survive. Gotta wait for the partner program (academy teams) and maybe some teams might develop relationships with existing t2 teams instead of forming their own

[@Kai_-ys9jj]

M80 is SENs academy team at this point xD

[@ace.ethan7]

@@Kai_-ys9jj nope

[@343JustMe]

​@@ace.ethan7 ?

[@KirKaori]

@@ace.ethan7yep

[@Arcane_Ayush]

@@ace.ethan7 he meant if zander joins then , ( Zander and Jordan played together for a while on V1 or something , then JohnQT was from M80 too... so he meant that and not to mention Kaplan from Ghost days )

[@xeno8449]

@@ace.ethan7 nah he has a valid point they scrim with them the most they have alot of connections even SYKKO is at m80 now like kaplan is coach for sentinels like ghost everything makes sense shutup

[@confused587]

I don't think M80 are going to compete in challengers for the next season, which is gonna be detrimental for the NA Tier 2 scene. They have been one of the few top orgs really investing in the Tier 2 scene. I think now, a lot of orgs are just gonna wait till a team wins ascension and then drop the bag on them to rake in that VCT money. Its a joke really.

[@superearth5256]

These good teams are fighting for tier1 and mibr and furia still exist in tier1🤦🏻‍♂️

[@343JustMe]

You cant exaclty do that, maybe poach a roster right before ascension but definitely cant do sk for the winners unless they happen to be orgless and your org has the greatest bags to give

[@confused587]

@@343JustMe yeah I meant most orgs won't sign teams, which would mean a good few teams are gonna be F/A like Turtle Troops, can see a good few teams like that next season, where depending on their performance an org such as DZ, Faze or Flyquest pick them up mid season or they wait till they make it to VCT

[@confused587]

@@superearth5256 I don't think pointing at Furia or MIBR is fair. Those orgs don't have the talent pool that the NA teams do. Sure they can try building international rosters, but from the past it doesn't work. If 2G hadn't won ascension maybe one of Furia or MIBR could have signed them.

[@turtlehehe8220]

Feels bad for riot after the m80 loss, they're an org which would thrive within the partnership system with content and likable players

[@343JustMe]

Yea... This is totally a sad sad day for... RIOT... Mhm, truly a tragedy, imagine the millions they couldve made with M80 😮‍💨

[@Vivek-Goel_Superfan]

@@343JustMebro lives and breathes in the valorant comment section

[@felipecagorago]

Omg poor multi million company 😢

[@earthwormsally2075]

It's their fault anyways lmao. Orgs are already struggling and this stupid ascension is just killing these teams faster.

[@jonathanyan188]

if m80 remains next year, Zander has once said he'll never leave his team for a franchise one, but we'll see

[@shubhamgoel6815]

Everyone is talking about Fracture but no one is talking about Replication

[@invertedChamel]

Replication boring af

[@shubhamgoel6815]

@@invertedChamel it was fun af

[@itsCynos]

​@@invertedChamelnah you new player won't understand that feeling

[@invertedChamel]

@@itsCynos how am i new of i know how replication was? Lol

[@Blade_Venom]

@@invertedChamel nah it was actually pretty fun

[@Puskar3k]

still remember that zander ace against sen and thats the scariest look of zander i've seen

[@ha4dy]

Zander would go nuts on SEN

[@ace.ethan7]

Too bad he’s isn’t going

[@priyanshusharma1812]

Zander played like asscheeks

[@Notagenius106]

I don't see Zander going to SEN but he will probably join C9

[@atiur_7]

​@@Notagenius106 Why do u think he will join C9 over SEN?

[@Notagenius106]

@@atiur_7 SEN is already trialling other players

[@Chure-val]

A little of a correction, you said in the video that 2g "lost 2 games and win 3 games" ; They actually just won 2 games (against Reta ; which was the first map of the entire tournament to be played and they dismantled Reta 13-2. And TSM ; that everybody but Galorys win against, sad fact) The fact that they were on a 2-3 Score meant that the last game that was played ON GROUP STAGE - AK vs TSM was important for 2g to qualify to playoffs. Had TSM won the game (which they came close to as they pushed the last map of the series to OT) they should have qualified as 4th seed. Regardless, 2g win against M80 is not a fluke, considering they had to beat them twice, first convincing 2-0, and then on grand finals 3-2. IF m80 came from the upper bracket then im sure m80 would have won the entire tournament as they have a deeper map pool considering the rest of the teams in contention, sadly, because they came from lowers, the map veto really played against themselves (they couldnt ban their perma - Bind, the same map 2g started the tournament winning and ended it taking the W, poetically you could say) Dunno if this result its gonna be healthy for the NA Scene (as a region) considering BR hasnt done shit in ages (except Loud) there is talent that its gonna be scattered through 4 different teams (considering the identity of Loud - Mibr - Furia - and now 2g). All depends on what m80 and what the rest of ascension is gonna do (if they disband or split the core, then some talent could go to other Na t1 teams)

[@carljojohnson]

he's talking about 2game losing 2 games and win 3 games because they won 3-2 against m80. it's not that deep

[@ignacionunez1808]

I think he got confused but yeah, m80 git gud

[@jhonataninciarte4141]

He talking about finals, they lost 2 Maps

[@ddeadpark]

i kinda got lost when you mixed NA scene with br

[@j-s-m]

The entirety of T2 is kinda rough right now, these teams are investing alot for so little gain. It has to be damaging to the esports scene with these orgs losing money like that, many of them are just gonna drop investments and abandon the idea. There needs to be more tournries with some type of money incentive even if its just a little. Riot can't be short on money at all making millions up on millions for bundles. Even T1, there should be more tournaments happening. Whether it be friendly match ups, hosted cups, or bouts. Something more.

[@ortegawendellwencyd.3468]

M80 😢😢😢

[@343JustMe]

I genuinely feel bad for everyone associated with m80 but at least this is good for the SA scene

[@priyanshusharma1812]

G2 vs 2G next year would go hard

[@343JustMe]

WAIT YOU'RE COOKING

[@crxsby2047]

Battle for who's the Top G😭

[@Kaits1]

@@crxsby2047 kinda funny as it was andrew tate who got G2 Fucked

[@AhmadSaifudin116]

@@Kaits1 isnt it because the owner say some stuffs?

[@rb_7010]

EMEA :- Apex to the final and won CHINA :- Rare atom to the final and lost again AMERICAS :- M80 to the final and lost again PACIFIC:- Scarz didn't even make it to ascension

[@risky7672]

I don't think M80 runs it back.. IT costs a lot of money to keep these teams running. And after losing like that twice now. It might just be that they disband the org from Valorant. Which a lot of teams are doing because of the shit way its setup. But M80 is a insane team. Was rooting for them since Ghost. A lot of Tier 1 teams always scrim them as well. The only way I see M80 maybe trying it again is if they rebuild around some players.. Not sure which ones will get poached from a team.. But its likely a few of them will..

[@magmoz565]

As much as it might hurt for m80, they definitely did not deserve to win. If you lose to the same team twice then that’s all it is, they were better

[@sebaba001]

Also AK choked against them. They were destroying them 2-0 in maps easily. Ak was probably the best team but they choked like 7 maps throughout the tournament.

[@boootio]

If anything this year showed how solid the m80 players are considering they had a bad start to the season and had to make a roster change and switch IGLs. Reaching top 2 is massive.

[@shubhamgoel6815]

will replication come back to map pool

[@FateOfAllFoolslol]

M80 on Bind was horrible, thats the worst team I've ever seen on Bind. You can tell they don't practice on that map much because they had no strats or anything for that map.

[@DolooDoloo-df5eb]

Please gave us Zander and Narrate I wont ask much. 🙏

[@earthwormsally2075]

This whole VCT academy ascension bs is what's gonna kill the competitive scene man. It's already an unprofitable business for orgs.

[@zaros8741]

Firepower wise bang would be a better pickup then zander if you want a like for like with tenz. Plus they’ll have an actual viper player now and zellsis can flex more

[@laughingstock6078]

m80 losing again to someone that have a 2 and letter G is mad. hopefully next ascension they get a final match again with a team with GG lmao

[@nachiketb0073]

We Need 2G Vs G2..!!!

[@SniffersCreepers]

it could've been M80 vs M8 but now we got G2 vs 2G

[@marc0z198]

m80 🤝rare atom

[@SvenRz]

Zander and narrate to sen would be insane 😬😬😬

[@superearth5256]

Cant wait for g2 vs 2g🙂

[@sweggieboi4928]

Zander would do well in SEN I think

[@gpfhantom1890]

How about the team that gets places 2nd in Ascension, just gets a free slot in Ascension for Next Year? How does that sound? It would prevent these great orgs from dismantling and leaving the scene. The way Riot has handled the Tier 2 scene, there is absolutely no incentive to even stay, cause more than likely you are going to bleed money like crazy with no result whatsoever

[@carljojohnson]

they'll do that for next year's ascension. if both teams from ascension in franchise league didn't get any result and got 8th-12th placement, both ascended teams from franchise will fall back to ascension, meaning 2 grand finalist on that year's ascension will ascend to franchise. but if those ascended teams want to stay for another year, they'll have to try for champs or get top 4 in their respective league(riot don't count masters for ascended teams to stay in the league) or placed 5th-8th in the league. But, they'll have to fight the ascension winners team(if both ascended teams place 5th-8th, both grand finalist in that year's ascension will fight both ascended teams).

[@kevinportu]

​@@carljojohnson they do not fall back immediately. They play against the ascension teams. It would be dumb to not even have the chance to defend your spot.

[@carljojohnson]

@@kevinportu like I said, they're able to defend their spot IF they got 5th-8th in the league. Below that placement is automatic relegation.

[@Blade_Venom]

damn this loss for m80 hit even harder than last year. ggwp to both and congrats to 2G for making it to vct. cant wait for G2 vs 2G lol

[@theneokenshin]

cloud9 should buy most m80 players

[@tinytempa3093]

C9 should sign the whole of m80

[@desh6418]

narrate and jawgemo on senti

[@Samvideos2021]

man heartbreak legit felt so bad wakin gup to this result and the same for rare atom man if C9 are losing oxy some team at that point just blow up the roster and pick up the entire m80 roster would look much better still so sad for the org and players alike

[@brunoregis5158]

Zander crashies to Sen and that’s a chip

[@arnavprabhakar8882]

Can you do the thug shake?

[@SniffersCreepers]

BcJ threw almost all of his rounds.

[@AyoLamandau]

zander zellsis zekken zohnqt z4rrate sounds like a very good zentinels

[@YHADaGOATmain]

Riot is a fucking joke, watching all these acsension games, most notably in both the BO5's, as soon as M80 would build momentum there would be a tech pause always, not to mention the crowd placement was horrific, i hope M80 drops out and lets this T2 scene go to scrambles, then scoop up who ever wins. I think the whole system is dumb anyways, like why have T1/T2, look at CS they make all teams qual and there scene has so many more teams and more games because of it. With riots idea now that some cinderalla 2game team fluks out 3 match wins they are in tier 1, they will be so trash mark my words, atleast MIBR will have some comepetition for the bottom now, its a joke

[@KGarcia2000]

I don’t want Zander going to sentinels 😭😭

[@sygann]

im a zap fan

[@gimmy2501]

It makes sense that Zekken stay in SEN 😉🤣

[@longjones]

Well. At this rate next year M80 will draw 3-3.

[@aurafln9509]

M80 just can Beat G2 / 2G they just the same 😂

[@xeno8449]

SEN ZANDER - SEN NISMO OMG

[@SushiKong]

bros milking Sen so hard

[@kazuto7803]

I feel like SEN koalanoob would make more sense than Zander Edit: for people wondering why, it's because koalanoob has played kayo, omen and yoru All which are good replacement agents for tenz

[@marsfps171]

? Add duelist player when you alr have zekken? Zander is a smokes player, sen need a smoke player... Idk what you are smoking

[@gyd1714]

What 😂😂 why they dont need a duelists they need a dedicated smoker

[@kazuto7803]

If u don't know, koalanoob plays good omen, he's good on yoru as well He's a really good replacement for tenz

[@seishiro11]

​@@kazuto7803nah wait u r lowkey cooking

[@kazuto7803]

​@@seishiro11ik 😔, in 2022 when I said johnqt should join sen instead of shroud people called me crazy Fast forward to 2024, look what we have

[@MCyahhhhha]

1904 views in 13 mins gg bro fell off

[@Tenz2346g]

2023 m80 3-1 2024 m80 3-2 2025 m80 w

[@TheAndre2131]

2025 m80 disbands

[@sunitapatil1721]

2025 m80 3-3

[@ace.ethan7]

Zander is not joining Sen . Valyn and rob Moore has confirmed sen has already got their roster during Zander is in ascension with their two players and they will announce it soon. it’s literally impossible for sen Zander to be happening rn

[@MaelMeier]

bro yapping

[@ace.ethan7]

@@MaelMeierit’s not my words though 🤣. Rob Moore literally said they gonna announce it in Oct 7th and he said this during ascension Americas

[@Sg190th]

@@MaelMeier misusing words in 2024

[@rubberducky3137]

@@ace.ethan7 he said more to come, not full roster. could just mean they have signed one player and are still trialling. That tweet could also just mean they will have a team by 7th october, not that they have one right now

[@ace.ethan7]

@@rubberducky3137 my point is sen Zander isn’t happening right now maybe there’s a small chance later but right now it seems impossible

[@tinctress]

tex 💜💜💜

[@-____-56789]

3 views in a minute bro fell off

[@abdullahalgazali4852]

First

[@mrbreakfastmcmuffin]

2:38 how long were you thinking about this line XD