Senzo Meyiwa murder trial

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@lindabenedictmdlalose8530
@lindabenedictmdlalose8530 7 ай бұрын
Mr. Mngomezulu, there was a moment when you speaking with passion, regarding the version and evidence of Mr. Ntanzi which was consistent with the AVL, you had the judge quiet there, no interruptions and no distractions. I could only see his eye one through the glasses as if he was somebody who was embarrassed or shamed. Well done, I was dancing that time singing a primary school song "fihla nu bengaboni tsosti, fihla nu bengaboni otsotsi"
@sphehsviewsmatter9328
@sphehsviewsmatter9328 7 ай бұрын
I’m
@thebestrsa8979
@thebestrsa8979 7 ай бұрын
This Mgomezulu is quality, yoh can criticize him all you want. The man is not reading at all, he's talking from the knowledge and facts as they are. Wow
@josephmakwela5991
@josephmakwela5991 7 ай бұрын
Hey he's not reading but he remembers everything date and times and places❤❤❤❤
@musamsibi7284
@musamsibi7284 7 ай бұрын
U Drwamazinyo uhlangnaphi nomzimba?
@musamsibi7284
@musamsibi7284 7 ай бұрын
U Ntanzi aka sue I State.
@musamsibi7284
@musamsibi7284 7 ай бұрын
But akusho ukuthi amaphoyisa abhala u ocorence book iliqiniso.
@musamsibi7284
@musamsibi7284 7 ай бұрын
Umbuso uyacela note that they buy I Judge ngesitayela ,ababoshwe bonke, kuyiwe kwa Kelly Khumalo😅 nababekhona bapheywe baboshwe qha.
@georgetenela7681
@georgetenela7681 7 ай бұрын
Watching from Botswana but what I can say is Advocate Mgomezulu is top notch
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 7 ай бұрын
But he is arguing on technicalities not the confession, the AVLs etc are not proving much
@georgetenela7681
@georgetenela7681 7 ай бұрын
@@gugundimandenare7969 That will be decided by the court not us
@carolthandeka5454
@carolthandeka5454 7 ай бұрын
His so calm ❤❤❤ big up to you Mr Mngomezulu you're very smart baba wethu
@phumzagalada6263
@phumzagalada6263 7 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@chukuannah3835
@chukuannah3835 7 ай бұрын
Well done advocate mngomezulu ❤❤❤❤
@njabulojb2994
@njabulojb2994 7 ай бұрын
🎉mngomezulu is very powerful he held the state by it's balls today!!
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 7 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes congrats MNGOMS
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt 7 ай бұрын
Haibo Mngomenzulu was moping with the state mos 😢...so this guys was not reading anything but telling the state 😮
@thaboshabangu
@thaboshabangu 7 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu did nothing to help his client today. He never done enough to prevent the confession to be admissible in court. The judge will rule against the defence. The confession will be read in court.
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt 7 ай бұрын
@@thaboshabangu then we are following a different case me and you
@yassinkapawo
@yassinkapawo 7 ай бұрын
Straight and this are just minor aspects that he is going to argue about more is still coming
@Sfiso-g4u
@Sfiso-g4u 7 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu looked confused
@simonphiri
@simonphiri 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dorcasmotsepe2288
@dorcasmotsepe2288 7 ай бұрын
Well done Mgo 👏 Yuu Ratha trying to distract you,you kept your cool .
@puritymabele3302
@puritymabele3302 7 ай бұрын
🎉Well Done Baba Mngomezulu 👏 Lord must proctect you from the evil eye 👁 powerful baba . 🙏 .
@tshililomavhungu604
@tshililomavhungu604 7 ай бұрын
Hello ADVOCATE MNGOMEZULU... I bambe kanjalo 👊👊.
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 7 ай бұрын
What a smart man-aka-HARD DRIVE he knows his story flowing like a river touching all important points,everything is imprinted in his mind not reading a bible🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!PLEASE Rams and others dont mess what Mngooo built,stay safe beloveds til Monday be SOBER 💋
@Dinols
@Dinols 7 ай бұрын
🕺🍻🍺🥂🍾
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 7 ай бұрын
@@Dinols haha i said be SOBER 😲
@Dinols
@Dinols 7 ай бұрын
@@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 we are thirsty 🫣
@Dinols
@Dinols 7 ай бұрын
@@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 we are thirsty
@edwardmoloinyana932
@edwardmoloinyana932 7 ай бұрын
Tjho😮 I rest my case, Adv Mgomezulu talked without reading anything. He just code. He still knows dates and names well done ADVOCATE0❤
@SonOfTheSoil834
@SonOfTheSoil834 7 ай бұрын
If the magistrate herself felt threatened how about the arrested person who to make confessions ….1st time I hear Mgomezulu trying very hard 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@MargarethMokone-jz4hq
@MargarethMokone-jz4hq 7 ай бұрын
All aspects of this trial within a trial.Job well done Mgo.
@NellyNzama
@NellyNzama 7 ай бұрын
Best lawyer ever seen before 🎉🎉❤❤
@everbote7858
@everbote7858 7 ай бұрын
Ngonezulu said Mnyayako is nobody to the defense. 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Ratha was put to his place
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@TheycallmeBanie
@TheycallmeBanie 7 ай бұрын
I liked when he said maybe it was Ntanzi style to look down and keep quiet after Ratha said It was Mjiyakho's style to keep quiet
@Akefe01
@Akefe01 7 ай бұрын
Advocate Baloyi came with huge files and was reading through out his argument submissions whilst Advocate Mngomezulu came prepared, everything came from his head. This shows how much intelligent, wise and experienced Mngomezulu is. He is so smart, patient and great. Great Heads submitted. Hats off Mngo
@leonardchauke2601
@leonardchauke2601 7 ай бұрын
The judge was extremely happy listening, exchanging and even assisting Baloyi but now, he's annoyed I can tell u. He just HATES the defence with passion.
@nonikomaluleks317
@nonikomaluleks317 7 ай бұрын
Yey you can say it again!😅
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 7 ай бұрын
Not true, support without bias please,, be objective, don’t see things that are not there
@sindiswamabunda5627
@sindiswamabunda5627 7 ай бұрын
​@@gugundimandenare7969Wena khona into e wrong ekhanda lakho, uphika ngisho into esiybonayo kwi TV ngoba ufuna uku sider nabantu who dismally failed to prove beyond a reasonable. You went as far as saying aka washo ama facts uMngomezulu meanwhile he was qouting the relevant acts and cases phambikwethu. Khona kungekho kahle ekhanda kuwe Akekho umuntu o reasoner kanjena.
@matloujennifer8376
@matloujennifer8376 7 ай бұрын
Long time waiting dis moment🎉
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 7 ай бұрын
N me 2
@honourableprince4203
@honourableprince4203 7 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu did well today!!
@UrLegend.
@UrLegend. 7 ай бұрын
Ths case is soo addictive 😢😩🤕#soifeel!...yeeeey best stories got no writers 🙌,but the sad part is soo many lives are affected,,,
@sthembisomkhize1734
@sthembisomkhize1734 7 ай бұрын
Well done Mngomezulu usebenzile today.....
@mxolisimsibi9885
@mxolisimsibi9885 7 ай бұрын
Akafundi phepha lobaba Yonke into isekhanda yafisa Ngathi angiwina
@Sfiso-g4u
@Sfiso-g4u 7 ай бұрын
Inenkinga yamehlo that why ecela Ramasepele amfundele hhay ngoba ehlakaniphile bebuye azphikise aside ijaji
@kellybasic7210
@kellybasic7210 7 ай бұрын
Mngo can argue with ratha all day till he keeps quite 😂
@nonikomaluleks317
@nonikomaluleks317 7 ай бұрын
Aibo and he keeps his cool in the process😂
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt 7 ай бұрын
This is the mngooooo l know...😂😂😂😂
@thaboshabangu
@thaboshabangu 7 ай бұрын
Ratha is very smart. He is very intelligent. He allow you to say anything and everything that you want to say even if it doesnt help your client. Coz at the end of the day. He will make the judgement based on what is relevent
@khanyilekhanyile436
@khanyilekhanyile436 7 ай бұрын
This thabo is against the defense
@prettysandiswajobe6221
@prettysandiswajobe6221 7 ай бұрын
​@@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mtmnisi is the coolest and mngo true can keep his cool shame ratha lo uzomelwa inhliziyo
@christinamoila5644
@christinamoila5644 7 ай бұрын
Thank you lord for your devine divine intervention on today's proceedings
@tandokazimaku1282
@tandokazimaku1282 7 ай бұрын
Free Ntanzi ,arrest Kelly Hamba nabo Mngo
@LindiweRMagcaba
@LindiweRMagcaba 7 ай бұрын
Khuphuka Mngomezulu ngithembe wena usindise izingane zabantu ezingabulalanga
@thaboshabangu
@thaboshabangu 7 ай бұрын
This 5 abanodabula. They will be found guilty. The defence team have nothing to work with. The accused have no defence against the state's witness. A guilty verdict or not guilty verdict sometimes doesnt mean that what is said happen or didnt happen.
@manikinikimjoli202
@manikinikimjoli202 7 ай бұрын
Baba wethu Mngomezulu siyakuthanda thina
@thaboshabangu
@thaboshabangu 7 ай бұрын
Even though he is leading his client straight to a guilty judgement once the trial within a trial finish. Mngomezulu and the other defence team members, will lose this case
@phumzagalada6263
@phumzagalada6263 7 ай бұрын
​@@thaboshabanguweeeee zungu khuzeka 😂😂😂😂
@khanyilekhanyile436
@khanyilekhanyile436 7 ай бұрын
@thaboshabanguzungu wish the defense to lose which is not going to happen mngomezulu is doing very well here even Ratha agrees with him
@phumzagalada6263
@phumzagalada6263 7 ай бұрын
@@khanyilekhanyile436 u zungu uphethwe ngumona kanti akayaz umona awuzomsa ndawo into entle iyanconywa
@darkness_bros_69
@darkness_bros_69 7 ай бұрын
Angithi ubala nami lapho💃💃💃
@LuluBee-bx8oy
@LuluBee-bx8oy 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Mngomezulu about question who sent Mjiyako to represent Ntanzi since Ntanzi also doesn't know. this baloyi and Ratha deliberately catches feelings when Mjiyako name brought up by Mngomezulu. Why Mjiyako was never called up to this court.
@Sfiso-g4u
@Sfiso-g4u 7 ай бұрын
You must ask yourself why the defense didn't call Mjiyakho like they called officer Makhubu
@masochas1314
@masochas1314 7 ай бұрын
They won't! They know they will fail on that one!
@bbm2116
@bbm2116 7 ай бұрын
20%nters perhaps?????😏
@sindiswamabunda5627
@sindiswamabunda5627 7 ай бұрын
​@@Sfiso-g4uBecause you cannot cross examine your witness if they had called him and he lied on the stand it would have been a big blunder for the defence. If he was called by the state on the other hand they would have been able to ask him the tough and important questions. Think for once in your life please.
@Mulilo24
@Mulilo24 7 ай бұрын
​@@sindiswamabunda5627 and it was not the defense who brought the issue mnjakonjako it was the state , the state was supposed to call him not the defense
@molebogengwelcomemlangeni2977
@molebogengwelcomemlangeni2977 7 ай бұрын
Lol the judge trying to intimidate mango by showing them his notes😂😂😂😂
@christinamoila5644
@christinamoila5644 7 ай бұрын
I was surprised. Like Moloi ga a tswareile
@kgabothantsha959
@kgabothantsha959 7 ай бұрын
They didn't bother to go through those 30000 pages as he claim 🤣🤣🤣
@andrewmabele4254
@andrewmabele4254 7 ай бұрын
😂Well done king mgomezulu,even baloi is humbled 😂😂😂😂,I see an interesting trial coming,Judge Ratha has no choice but to find confessions were obtained with duress,and forcefully so,torture no food,hand cuffs,not taken to court within 48 hours,Victorious character Mjiyakho,appointed by who?😅😂
@edwardmoloinyana932
@edwardmoloinyana932 7 ай бұрын
Eish Adv Mgomezulu I respect u.
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 7 ай бұрын
No need for him to be so emotional though, he is almost shouting! But we only see the judge shouting
@HarryHenryHounston1673-q7l
@HarryHenryHounston1673-q7l 7 ай бұрын
Ratha must just retire and give young judges a chance.
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 7 ай бұрын
He has retired, he was pulled to do his dirty job that he is known for.
@prettysandiswajobe6221
@prettysandiswajobe6221 7 ай бұрын
​@@mthokozisilanga4497just like the 4 that were appointed to investigate by the commissioner and ndosi
@kgabothantsha959
@kgabothantsha959 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂siyakhala indeed Ratha scratching head
@nomusamasina3872
@nomusamasina3872 7 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@siyamsiyana5396
@siyamsiyana5396 7 ай бұрын
This judge yooh haikhona yesterday he was assisting Baloi but 2day is fighting Mngomezulu yooooh haikhona
@LindiweThwala-vj6jn
@LindiweThwala-vj6jn 7 ай бұрын
Akuhambanga kahle😂😂😂
@hlumilekunjana8686
@hlumilekunjana8686 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Mngomezulu for coming on this case. We needed you❤
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 7 ай бұрын
1928 ngimfisela konke okubi emhlabeni, this judge is too cruel to be sitting in any chair of any sort.
@dannym7593
@dannym7593 7 ай бұрын
He's an experienced and very knowledgeable judge who can see through lies and he's not influenced by hearsay.
@noxolosabulela340
@noxolosabulela340 7 ай бұрын
Baba Mngomezulu🔥🔥
@simonphiri
@simonphiri 7 ай бұрын
For me Mngomezulu poked so many holes in state evidence than Baloyi. So to those who say Mngomezulu did nothing. You can see which side they're all a long. As for me I still maintain that these guys have got nothing to do with Senzo meyiwa murder case.
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711 7 ай бұрын
Me too
@lindampofu4625
@lindampofu4625 7 ай бұрын
Me too 😢
@katlego..js9no
@katlego..js9no 7 ай бұрын
They killed Senzo and they are going down
@bonolomoabelo1488
@bonolomoabelo1488 7 ай бұрын
Even DNA says they have nothing to do with it
@sibongilemaduku3702
@sibongilemaduku3702 7 ай бұрын
Kelly knows who killed Senzo
@SmangeleDladla-y5g
@SmangeleDladla-y5g 7 ай бұрын
Siyacwila iState, kuyaphela ngaso
@nonikomaluleks317
@nonikomaluleks317 7 ай бұрын
I wish that was true but I don't trust this judge
@rosemahlangu3390
@rosemahlangu3390 7 ай бұрын
Yes labantu abanacala
@lwethubuthelezi1992
@lwethubuthelezi1992 7 ай бұрын
Angeke kuphele cause this stupid fudge is on their side mara we all can see the is no case against the accused
@nomavosomhlahlo2944
@nomavosomhlahlo2944 7 ай бұрын
I think the judge has already made a decision.
@lwethubuthelezi1992
@lwethubuthelezi1992 7 ай бұрын
Sadly
@bonganidube429
@bonganidube429 7 ай бұрын
He said (lingat nginigwebela esakeni) meaning he knew already that is going to sentence them
@floydlekgwathi587
@floydlekgwathi587 7 ай бұрын
AVL says Fortuner was at Garage for more than 5hrs but the driver ( Mogane) denied before AVL evidence was given...
@floydlekgwathi587
@floydlekgwathi587 7 ай бұрын
Jonathan Maphumulo also denied being there...but we know the liar ( Mogane said he had to get backup bcos the Fortuner was giving problems, mind you the very same Fortuner that he was driving fast on the highway bcos it was from service...
@noxolosabulela340
@noxolosabulela340 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@christinamoila5644
@christinamoila5644 7 ай бұрын
That one cannot lie shem. That was pure lies, and he seems not caring at all, as long as he is living
@LindiweThwala-vj6jn
@LindiweThwala-vj6jn 7 ай бұрын
​@@christinamoila5644never forget them saying they never be at the garage amanga aluhlaza heeee this tsotsi police
@UrLegend.
@UrLegend. 7 ай бұрын
King Mngomezulu 🎉🎉🔥🔥🔥🙌🙌🙌🙌
@LuluBee-bx8oy
@LuluBee-bx8oy 7 ай бұрын
Today Mngomezulu is gatvol for everything about this tiktok Ratha=Ratha is rude he keeps on saying Mngomezulu are you blank? Ramosepele are you listening to yourself? Hello hello hello...my gosh this judge.
@anniemanda-qh2sj
@anniemanda-qh2sj 7 ай бұрын
And it's sad the judge has already made up his mind and can't even hide it
@christinamoila5644
@christinamoila5644 7 ай бұрын
​@@anniemanda-qh2sjYou are right, he cant hide it but I think is a high time for him to consult or think twice coz the Nation is watching, actually globally
@anniemanda-qh2sj
@anniemanda-qh2sj 7 ай бұрын
@@christinamoila5644 it's very sad wen baloyi he listens when it's defence he's arguing with them yooo
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 7 ай бұрын
​@@christinamoila5644yes yes yes we're all watching this CORRUPTED JUDGE
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711 7 ай бұрын
@@christinamoila5644yes we are watching from England
@AndileNgwenya-pc5px
@AndileNgwenya-pc5px 7 ай бұрын
Khuphuka Mngo!!!!!!!!!!
@KhethiweMhlongo-k6l
@KhethiweMhlongo-k6l 7 ай бұрын
Ibambe ngezihluthu
@ThabisoTsotetsi-nc8kz
@ThabisoTsotetsi-nc8kz 7 ай бұрын
Big ups Mr Mgomezulu👌🏾
@LuluBee-bx8oy
@LuluBee-bx8oy 7 ай бұрын
Who hired Mjiyako to be Ntanzis lawyer?
@prettysandiswajobe6221
@prettysandiswajobe6221 7 ай бұрын
We going there kusazoshuba
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 7 ай бұрын
Ntanzi himself
@dannym7593
@dannym7593 7 ай бұрын
But also heard his family member hired Mjiyakho on his behalf. If he was not happy with him why blame the State instead of engaging with his own family.
@hlongwarebotile7029
@hlongwarebotile7029 7 ай бұрын
He’s already said it that he only found out later that he wasn’t sent by any of his family
@nombuzoedithmahlangu3755
@nombuzoedithmahlangu3755 7 ай бұрын
Wena you always hijack people's comments why not write yours uyadika
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 7 ай бұрын
Wena Ratha you think that it is ok to ignore that the accused did not wash for days and had to relate that to the magistrate who did not even say anything about a person denied a bath in his presence. And the magistrate said nothing to that effect. To you that was normal, sies! You are cruel maan khehla ndini!
@ayandadzakwa5767
@ayandadzakwa5767 7 ай бұрын
Intelligence shown at the highest level and we as a nation gather to witness.🙌🙌🙌
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 7 ай бұрын
Mngoms is too brilliant, presented without having an outline to remind him, when Baloyi had to read all the court notes. ♨️♨️♨️♨️
@siyamsiyana5396
@siyamsiyana5396 7 ай бұрын
Yooooh the judge is speechless Mngo closed his mouth
@PhumelaMgangala-ro1dj
@PhumelaMgangala-ro1dj 7 ай бұрын
Hamba Mngomezulu ❤
@jackmoseri1235
@jackmoseri1235 7 ай бұрын
Translation not make sure😂😂😂😂😂
@PhumelaMgangala-ro1dj
@PhumelaMgangala-ro1dj 7 ай бұрын
@@jackmoseri1235 😅
@thusoramakobya7054
@thusoramakobya7054 7 ай бұрын
i need the service of mghomezulu
@hanspretorius4019
@hanspretorius4019 7 ай бұрын
Same .Sorry for you .He is blank
@hanspretorius4019
@hanspretorius4019 7 ай бұрын
BLANK =😂
@thusoramakobya7054
@thusoramakobya7054 7 ай бұрын
@@hanspretorius4019 you must be white
@rita_TM
@rita_TM 7 ай бұрын
but what are we going to say about Ratha's wrong recollection of the lady who withdrew... That lady wasn’t withdrawing on behalf of Mjiyako, she was withdrawing from representing accused no.2 because ntanzi didn’t want her since she was from Mjiyako's firm not that she was withdrawing on behalf of Mjiyako. This Judge bullied Rams to agree with him..This is worrisome because he will make a judgment based on misinformation
@KhanyisaJali-d6m
@KhanyisaJali-d6m 7 ай бұрын
Bt let keep it in our mind that this is the retired judge out of no where and the judge is former pirates player and senzo is a former pirates player
@SwaziTshabalala-zp4by
@SwaziTshabalala-zp4by 7 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu was on fire todat🔥🔥🔥oRatha bakhipha nama file wo 5000 pages 😂😂😂. Sibonga Mr Mngo khuphuka nabo sir, our man of the match🎉🎉🎉
@Sticknbkid
@Sticknbkid 7 ай бұрын
“Mr Rampasele” 😂😂😂 this judge is butchering people’s names
@omegakubone6826
@omegakubone6826 7 ай бұрын
"Them comin in a different style maan, Judge Ratha defending his Mjiyako"
@nonikomaluleks317
@nonikomaluleks317 7 ай бұрын
😂😂"his Mkiyakho"
@josephmakwela5991
@josephmakwela5991 7 ай бұрын
There is no style in front of law😂😂😂
@Demru_1
@Demru_1 7 ай бұрын
In court it's never what you know but what you can prove...this Toyota fortuna and AVL can be the lifeline.
@SlaapieMaphanga
@SlaapieMaphanga 7 ай бұрын
Baba Mngo you're a genius you remember each and everything without looking at a script or is it written on the screen maybe like a news reader 🤔
@T.j-ps9lb
@T.j-ps9lb 7 ай бұрын
Yima njalo baba Mngomezulu
@siyamsiyana5396
@siyamsiyana5396 7 ай бұрын
Yooooh Mngomezulu was on Fire 2day yooooh
@jeffreymphole2384
@jeffreymphole2384 7 ай бұрын
RATHA HES TRYING TO SCARY THE DEFENCE🙆
@lwethubuthelezi1992
@lwethubuthelezi1992 7 ай бұрын
Usile lomkhulu
@DavidDavid-eu4wx
@DavidDavid-eu4wx 7 ай бұрын
Why is the state protecting those who were in the house,
@Sfiso-g4u
@Sfiso-g4u 7 ай бұрын
The mastermind will come from the house relax
@dannym7593
@dannym7593 7 ай бұрын
Gininda already linked KK to the 5 accused. Wait for the case to unfold. You'll be shocked that other people who were in the house were also made to believe that it was a robbery and had no knowledge that it was a planned hit.
@nathitwala8438
@nathitwala8438 7 ай бұрын
Is Ratha engaging with Mngomezulu or is Mngomezulu delivering his heads of arguments 🤔
@yvii96
@yvii96 7 ай бұрын
Our own Barry Roux..Big Ups Chief👏👏👍
@bonganimatebese1153
@bonganimatebese1153 7 ай бұрын
ADV mngomezulu is a brilliant lawyer however most of the points he made are irrelevant as they do not assist in proving the matter at hand which is providing proof that confessions and the pointing out were made under duress
@SydwellHlungwani-uz6oh
@SydwellHlungwani-uz6oh 7 ай бұрын
Do we even have mjiyakho people in this world njheee
@beewest5704
@beewest5704 7 ай бұрын
Ntanzis biggest problem is he went to far. It may be reasonable for the court to take his version that the police forced him to confess. Its not reasonable to say the a magistrate & a dentist & interpretors would lie & be part of the conspiracy. And he was never ever in the whole process by multiple law officers told his rights at every single occasion. If you are telling the court multiple lies you are an unreliable accused & nothing you say will be deemed truthful without corroborating hard evidence. Let the judge deliberate & tell us.
@xoliswasandisiwe5934
@xoliswasandisiwe5934 7 ай бұрын
You are a cause of concern.
@moreboysmunetsi6172
@moreboysmunetsi6172 7 ай бұрын
I also don't believe the version of saying Magistrate was lying
@thusoramakobya7054
@thusoramakobya7054 7 ай бұрын
Have u ever testified in court ?... There's no formula in court
@thusoramakobya7054
@thusoramakobya7054 7 ай бұрын
Why did the megistrate record the interview... She knew something was fishy... Remember the megistrate took orders from a senior megistrate who was in contact with gininda
@ntombikaysedanisa8645
@ntombikaysedanisa8645 7 ай бұрын
The magistrates said that she does that all the time to safe guard her i rhink when something like this happen. When the accused gobackband deny everything
@ASHBRO481
@ASHBRO481 7 ай бұрын
Maybe you were watching and listening a different trial
@Sfiso-g4u
@Sfiso-g4u 7 ай бұрын
Why didn't open a case of fraud against Mjiyakho?
@sindiswamabunda5627
@sindiswamabunda5627 7 ай бұрын
There is no legal requirement forcing him to do so. A case can be opened even 50 years sebengama pensioners, let them deal with the Senzo Meyiwa trial for now.
@underdog209
@underdog209 7 ай бұрын
@@sindiswamabunda5627 That’s not true, people do simple google search.
@Sfiso-g4u
@Sfiso-g4u 7 ай бұрын
That would have help them in this case to prove that he don't know this Mjiyakho
@MxolisiMthembu12
@MxolisiMthembu12 7 ай бұрын
But still the State must bring Mjiyako's bank statement, that reflects the payments done by Ntanzi. For his services if he rendered them
@timothymoeketsi4960
@timothymoeketsi4960 7 ай бұрын
To Ntanzi, Mji. is a nobody.Besides, how will report an attorney if you are locked-up...🫣🫣🫣
@KhettahNxumalo-dr5gp
@KhettahNxumalo-dr5gp 7 ай бұрын
Syabonga Dlakadla
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 7 ай бұрын
5 accused r innocent you're right
@vincentmakgato3662
@vincentmakgato3662 7 ай бұрын
State forget that they said 'they drive with ntanzi the whole day because he was bored,
@bongilakey1019
@bongilakey1019 7 ай бұрын
Mr M is speaking English today
@luvobooi911
@luvobooi911 7 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu 👏👏
@tamariemusangeya-magaisa8281
@tamariemusangeya-magaisa8281 7 ай бұрын
Yaa mngo mixes number acc 1 and no 2 most of the time thays a big mistake
@papatnyatoro
@papatnyatoro 7 ай бұрын
Its immaterial
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 7 ай бұрын
That is what I have been asking, what was the role of Mjiyako in that court, no statement qouted from him by the presiding officer, and why would an accused/suspect not tell his lawyer that he did not bath, or why was that problem not related by Mjiyako himself to the
@nonikomaluleks317
@nonikomaluleks317 7 ай бұрын
Mfethu!!
@siyamsiyana5396
@siyamsiyana5396 7 ай бұрын
Ratha is quite hahaaha😂😂😂
@tamariemusangeya-magaisa8281
@tamariemusangeya-magaisa8281 7 ай бұрын
Seriously, which case is the state dealing with Robbery gone wrong or a hit. Why were the suspects arrested for to be charged 4 months down the line with a case of a hit
@zwelimkhize3071
@zwelimkhize3071 7 ай бұрын
It's dynamics of investigation. at the time when the statement was made allegations were different was that of a hit. So as the investigation unfold new evidence comes out. So they is nothing wrong with that. Gininda is a professional. He aline his statement with what was happening at that time. He knew on those statements that the gun was not a revolver but a pistol but he was not going to state his view without the backup of 212 Affidavit from the ballistic so he sticks to what the ppl inside the house has observed. Should he stated on his Affidavit that it was a pistilol he should have bben in trouble now as he was not and expect in firearms. So the statement is in line with what was happening at that time Kelly was a suspect but after NPA decided not to prosecute 6 individual but 5. It was not his dicision but that of the NPA. So he is indeed an standout police dictedtive. not a street dictedtive. He know how the law is applied In all aspects.
@sindiswamabunda5627
@sindiswamabunda5627 7 ай бұрын
​@@zwelimkhize3071You need to consult Google and look up the word professional. There is nothing professional about how this whole case was investigated.
@DominicNdlovu-tv9tp
@DominicNdlovu-tv9tp 7 ай бұрын
Mix up n only want to find these young man guilty for crime they never commited
@simonphiri
@simonphiri 7 ай бұрын
Detective
@simonphiri
@simonphiri 7 ай бұрын
​@@DominicNdlovu-tv9tp It'll never happen . Truth will always prevail.
@MilloGololo-pr7eu
@MilloGololo-pr7eu 7 ай бұрын
U Freddie Gwala is waiting 4 u. mr vaseline nd ghininda lead singers chicco producer mjiyako a dancer mr jonathan responsible for transpotation yoo i cant wait 2 buy the cd
@underdog209
@underdog209 7 ай бұрын
Thinking Mngomezulu did a great job is the funniest thing I’ve heard this week. The man has done very little to place doubt on the states case regarding the confessions. He delved too much into the case in its entirety instead of confined matters of the confessions.
@bonginkosigumbi6348
@bonginkosigumbi6348 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. Instead he's made the state's case even stronger. His closing argument is all over the place. And mostly it's got nothing to do with the trial within a trial which is about the admissability of the confessions. He had to be reminded several times. Very weak.
@matomewaynemehlape5974
@matomewaynemehlape5974 7 ай бұрын
It's important that you go read the requirements that are Needed for a statement to be admissible. The fact that cronjie conceded that she was afraid it's a lopewhole and he doesn't have to prove his client case beyond reasonable doubt. He only needs to create a single doubt and he goes home to celebrate. Which he already dd
@underdog209
@underdog209 7 ай бұрын
@@matomewaynemehlape5974 Let’s not argue the obvious. Even if the court was to believe that Cronje and everyone in that room was scared, Ntanzi’s version is that he did not give a confession on the day in question, he only signed the documents because HE THOUGHT IT WAS FOR HIM TO GET A BATH, not because he was afraid of heavily armed policemen.
@HarryMzwane
@HarryMzwane 7 ай бұрын
State is winning here thank you mr Baloyi he didn't prove that allegation that this guys were beaten😂
@SizweMgadle
@SizweMgadle 7 ай бұрын
My brother why would they dispute that now,if it was done voluntarily???
@botumileseleke2712
@botumileseleke2712 7 ай бұрын
The defence is holding this trial within a trial with a straw, remember the statement were made voluntarily by the defence's to their witness, ....Up.to so far Mngomezulu is all over the show to dispute the statements...
@kabelokatjedi3801
@kabelokatjedi3801 7 ай бұрын
How can you say the statement was made voluntarily while the accused were abused, have you ever being assulted by the police whereby you accept for something never done?
@sindiswamabunda5627
@sindiswamabunda5627 7 ай бұрын
​@@kabelokatjedi3801Seems like this one is delulu and doesn't even know why there is a trial within a trial.
@botumileseleke2712
@botumileseleke2712 7 ай бұрын
​@@sindiswamabunda5627..It seems like you and Kabelo are suffering from an Artificial Deficiencies Hypertensional Disorder...I don't blame you for supporting Adv Mngomezulu's articulation...Democracy projects you guys to that....😂😂😂😂😂😂
@malopo99
@malopo99 7 ай бұрын
How is Ramosepele still consulting with accused 1? He was terminated earlier
@blessedchibaya378
@blessedchibaya378 7 ай бұрын
Because he is only terminated in front of the court or judge.. But behind the scenes they are still there and working together to bring down ginida and his partners in crime..
@Positive_vibes1982
@Positive_vibes1982 7 ай бұрын
He is terminated on paper😂 it seems like Rams are still in partnership with adv Mngo
@gertrudemabunda4105
@gertrudemabunda4105 7 ай бұрын
That is the strategy the defence using
@musamsibi7284
@musamsibi7284 7 ай бұрын
Emaningi kangaka in South Africa kukhethwe lawa but abukekaka a corrupt awaboshwa.
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt
@NiphoMakhanya-hk8mt 7 ай бұрын
Patiently waiting for mnisi and my show stopper Mshololo....the state must provide wheelchairs l don't see baloyi coming back on this one😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@lorainesedume
@lorainesedume 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@prettysandiswajobe6221
@prettysandiswajobe6221 7 ай бұрын
Mnisi will fish the state, I just wish mshololo can be calm and not shout or she will cause chaos but maloyi is shaking of those 😂😂😂 mngo already knocking him down with his friend ra...
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 7 ай бұрын
Baloyi is a seasoned lawyer nothing shakes him
@nomfundomalgas8091
@nomfundomalgas8091 7 ай бұрын
When are they back in court again?
@LwaziNdwandwe-wo5og
@LwaziNdwandwe-wo5og 7 ай бұрын
Monday
@LinkieLedwaba
@LinkieLedwaba 7 ай бұрын
How I hate it when Ratha mispronounce the names
@thandazilemthembu8013
@thandazilemthembu8013 7 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Mngomezulu
@carolinesimayile952
@carolinesimayile952 7 ай бұрын
thatha Mngo❤🎉
@theodorahmpunga7350
@theodorahmpunga7350 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 When Ratha dissagree with what is being said he use his 🖋️🖋️🖋️🖋️.that noise says a lot
@abeaaphane6411
@abeaaphane6411 7 ай бұрын
Where is Limpompo and Mapumalanga😂😂
@gertrudemabunda4105
@gertrudemabunda4105 7 ай бұрын
Mgomezulu is very intelligent,
@siyabulelabrucecamagu5755
@siyabulelabrucecamagu5755 7 ай бұрын
akayontsango akatshsywa Mr.Ngomezulu take yr time before u criticize him 🤝
@ntokozombatha1335
@ntokozombatha1335 7 ай бұрын
Ubulungiswa yinto engekho lapha ngeke futhi siyibone kulelicala uRatha uchemile usedlile naye njengo Baloyi
@Mummy-o6o
@Mummy-o6o 7 ай бұрын
The professional judge don’t do this showing his judgement before his verdict meaning his guilty and already made his decision but after mngomezulu submission he felt threatened being as unfair judge as always be
@LindiweThwala-vj6jn
@LindiweThwala-vj6jn 7 ай бұрын
Ratha is defending his colleague Mjiyako he knows him very well, they are all together in this, if he can't see he is going to jail together with his Baloyi and Gininda the brigadier
@isaacmasete2219
@isaacmasete2219 7 ай бұрын
This judge is baised,defence is against ijiako representing the accused ,how can they call him as their witness,
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