Senzo Meyiwa Trial: Ramosepele accuses Ratha of being impatient and leading the witness

“Here are numbers (ending 358) and (ending 498) those are numbers for Kelly Khumalo, and I have an affidavit by Kelly Khumalo to say those were the numbers she was using on the day Senzo's demise. That’s just background. I put it to you that there was no communication between Kelly Khumalo and accused 3, looking at those numbers, you find no communication specifically on the 26th (day of demise),” says Mngomezulu.
This is according to cellphone data analyst Gideon Gouws who has been testifying at the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria.
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[@kotelokotelo2886]

Mngomezulu has a good PA and a very sharp memory, thats why he is always on point and recalls what we didnt pick. he can even recall the phone numbers without reading

[@fikilefikzen]

This judge has already found the accused guilty

[@humbelani.tshiswaise7498]

Mngo when he said I listened and write notes he was being sarcastic. The judge is the one who always said I listened and write notes. Allegedly

[@NokuthulaMkhize-dg2xx]

Yes 🤣🤣🤣nd I laughed

[@thandikote878]

I loved that, I just commented about it didn't see that you did. I just admire advocate Mngomezulu his excellent

[@mongikunene3471]

Mr Anno and Sr Emily yes they blocked Ramosepele but it's not over advo Mnisi is coming Now that the defence have told the judge to exercise patience they must also include "as you do to our learned friend Baloyi"

[@sibongilembilaphu4589]

This case is already a mess,now the state is worried that if they can't arrest those 5 then the state will be sued, people must answer before the law,now the question is how many people can be implecated on this cooking hence it seems the whole justice is already in it 😅😅😅

[@barbarapeters2945]

It has always been a mess!!! Worse when Mngo dealt with them accordingly. Many people are implicated and they will pay. It's sad that they still dragging it....😢

[@malatjijohannes8722]

I agree with you

[@mongikunene3471]

Gouws agreed that the 1st thing a suspect is arrested he is searched and whatever is found is taken But the judge comes and say What If the police overlooked the protocol. What is that family? Is it not to water down the facts of the defence and support the state theory?

[@MrStokes83]

Kunene you are correct. The judge works with Baloyi allegedly. He has chosen a side

[@inno585]

But Baloyi brought that station commander from Silverton police station to testify on procedure. It was all well and good, and he did not find him irrelevant. He is a 50 years experience crook! Allegedly

[@siphonengu5436]

All the police officers of the numerous police stations neglected to follow protocol. This is laughable and gross abuse of common sense

[@trustyguriras9607]

Yes the judge meant that f the police fails to keep up the protocol than its their inspiration to carry on or answer tot that but the fact is ntanzi went with his phone in the cells, that what ratha means,.. how come can the man intrusted to preside over this trial says that...

[@nomvulahnkomo6995]

Have you noticed that the judge always ask defence the names of their witnesses, but yesterday he didn't ask Baloyi, I wonder why. This judge must fall.

[@swabsilegama6928]

Mngomezulu shredded the State's evidence so calmly and for once he raised his voice calling that mkhulu to order Bravo Mngo.🎉 This focus and spirit flooding the defense for a way through is indeed nursing our wounds in this case

[@everbote7858]

Ratha and Baloyi are team shame

[@ZEEH406]

Ntanzi's phone was locating him at estate Germiston, vosloorus mall, one of the flats in Pretoria and in church, one can ask who was in position of that phone bcs Ntanzi was in prison by then

[@johnmagolane]

Morning morning thank you very much guys for the update

[@valentinezulu8018]

Being at work with headsets on and listening to you guys......thank you for making our lives easy....❤

[@valentinezulu8018]

N waiting for another police officer to come and testify 🙌

[@patrickntuli703]

The judge seems to be changing records. He takes the role of prosecutor as well as that of a witness himself. I wonder if the honourable Mlambo is watching

[@barbarapeters2945]

I'm happy these defense lawyers are finally calling Ratha out for his impatience. They putting it on record. The rest must also do it!!! He won't stop but it's on record!!!

[@malidirbth7100]

I liked it when Mngo says 'Baloi must learn to tell this court the truth'. This simply means that in most instances mr vaseline is lying, ALLEGEDLY. In my opinion, Baloi looked confused and not listening/paying attention to what the defense is putting to the witness.

[@siviwembatane3600]

Not allegedly, we're tired of this judge and Baloyi , Gininda cooking

[@luthandovuso2006]

Hi Emily and mr Anonymous my question now is that why if they acquired confession from the two accused they didn't take their cell phones for data analysis earlier after their confessions

[@sibandasikhathele7753]

Morning guys. I like following you live but these days I always miss your lives iam a Morning gang .

[@buhlegcabashe4895]

Why is SA judiciary mocking us, truly they can't see what is happening in that court isn't right😔

[@bongamendu3510]

The media coverage is a game changer in this case.

[@bulambethebnag7370]

And there was a time when the device was pulling network via some apostolic church tawer 🗼 and I thought to myself 💭 Mamfundisi😂😂😂

[@smangelemnisi8961]

😂😂😂

[@buhlemthembu]

😂😂😂😂

[@ThabisaTyobo-nh3bw]

😂😂

[@user-yr1cu1qy2k]

Thank you Mr Anno and beautiful Emily I can't go to sleep without watching your show big up guys

[@davidk7407]

I don't think will be sitting today unless is the section 205 lady

[@davidk7407]

Guys have u noticed that the prime news channels hasn't reported anything since the cross examinations started 🤔

[@patramthethwa8525]

They busy ngezindaba zama elections....don't worry....sibamele oChriselda no Linda MNISI.....kaze bazothini NGOBA sekushube kakhulu manje😂😂🤞🏽

[@buhlemthembu]

They must just not report because they always report lies.

[@siviwembatane3600]

​@@patramthethwa8525 It's better those two not to allowed to report anything about this case, they a just like Ratha 😂😂😂

[@frankhinda7670]

Defense attorney for accused 2 should simply have said that accused was where, but that does not mean that he had the phone becuase the phone in his view was with the police

[@bongamendu3510]

His main problem, he wants to rush his questions and he also give clues of the answers

[@siphonengu5436]

​@bongamendu3510 He is predictable, and the judge and Baloyi can see where he is going.

[@trustyguriras9607]

Yes but you know what? The judge saw ramasipele was about say that, and block him to upset him... And derail him of coz,, that's the game the judge is always playing against defence in order to aid the state, the whole world are watching this judge actions including the people who believes this accuses are guilty.... But it's no fair for real,, it's a vimpire judge

[@thokomasondo9687]

Morning gang of Public opinion,Hi Emily,Mr.Ano❤

[@maphaladiphaladi-magoai]

Loved by the morning gang, you make the pots to be done❤❤❤family

[@Tsidyannamohapi2381]

Thanks

[@MzansiReality]

Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🙏

[@lucydlamini6230]

Good morning my lovely family ♥️

[@nhlanhlasikhosana6621]

This judge is writing notes as to counter what the defense is asking as if after adjournment they seat down and court and the state and witnesses discuss as how to answer

[@willybaloyi1863]

Hi my people. The state must just publicly declare their apology for arresting wrong people. Simple

[@simonkhaseditsweleng5050]

We love you ❤❤❤❤

[@raisibe-bn4sw]

Morning guys ❤

[@malatjijohannes8722]

Good morning family

[@thokomasondo9687]

Ramosepele was a Star today even backing up Mngomezulu for calling out Rata❤

[@lisbethrakgoroana2120]

Mngomezulu is going to save those gys mack my word God is great al da tym❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@nthabibotsi9855]

Morning, at least Adv. Ramosepele managed to call judge Ratha to order. He at least backed Mngo because he has been saying this to Ratha that he's inpatient. We all can see the judge's biasedness. We are always shocked every second of how Ratha's deminor of covering the witnesses and the prosecutor against the defence is escalating.

[@LindiweThwala-vj6jn]

😂😂😂😂Ngomezulu was making a joke. Like Ratha said I always write notes

[@user-zq9xl4wi8p]

Yes Emily, they should have leave the cellphone alone and the DNA too

[@buhlegcabashe4895]

That right Mr anonymous this case is no longer about son of Meyiwa😭😭😭

[@HandsomeApe_1]

Impatience was a nice word...

[@Alinahk17]

Good morning family. We are thankful to advocate Mngomezulu for put ratha at his place he doesn't listen he uses tarven procedures and then clap he listens he is always to quick to answer to wrong information coz he has already found the guys guilty now he want to support his dicision by being dilulu

[@kholekadabi1199]

The Genius people are like Mngomezulu,you can think that his not listening but he catches every word more than you were paying attention

[@EdwardShongwe-zl3yb]

Why the Judge always desta the defender I wonder why

[@gjmnmn]

Thanks!

[@MzansiReality]

❤️❤️❤️🙏

[@gjmnmn]

With pleasure Mzansi Reality.

[@zvazvazva1270]

It's funny that they went to arrest and are keeping the rest of the accused on account of being outed by #1and 2

[@mxobhungane143]

This is compromised by people who were in the house and SAPS eish they destroyed it 😮

[@mathaboshange5803]

I wonder if ohnorable Mlambo still follow the case because what ratha is doing under his watch it is totally unexeptable but Mgoh is speaking relevent issues biting from 375❤❤❤

[@zodwadlamini4213]

Rath amasimba lobaba

[@aubrynekhumalo5082]

More than a word amasimba

[@siviwembatane3600]

Ratha wouldn't never be still a judge in mexico either middle east court, those countries does took nonsense as we do in SA... I'm not implied anything 😂😂

[@siyabongagasa6311]

Guyz kunzima kwi Judge

[@siphonengu5436]

Has anyone noticed the deafening silence of the mainstream media. Where is Mnisi, Majavu and company

[@katenokulungagabayi8912]

Guys what happened to bank records are they going to cross examine Sibanda?

[@davidk7407]

The laughter

[@petroguilherme5549]

Wonder how many times Longwe called ...Zandi ?

[@buyelwaqebeyikota5050]

Ndigrand ngoRatha shem

[@petroguilherme5549]

Must say ...If I was Kelly I would be very concerned...especially if she is covering up for someone....she could have given phones to her mom her sister ...and and Kelly is under the bus .....

[@gjmnmn]

Any outlier call data (as per 205) that does not follow the fortuner AVL records( whilst Ntanzi was in the Fortuner) must be taken as proof and indeed confirmation that Ntanzi was not in posession of his phone.

[@mphotemogo6890]

Good morning family, ginida forgot that mogola was at church with the phone and also note that mogola is the one who stays at Germiston. The phone was with mogola

[@ShaidaBhalli]

The state is covering the story

[@manchesterjohn-oc9ie]

Morning Family this cooking 🍳 is going to end sooner or later

[@softangler3040]

50:00 you have a point Mr Anonymous. Cas636 is a recreation of cas375

[@KrazieFam]

And if the judge says Kelly had 8 numbers where are the 205s of the 8 numbers and the rica of those numbers also if they got all these tower information where are the content the judge is changing the records and putting in evidence that has not been introduced

[@lisbethrakgoroana2120]

lamaphone awu8 okuthiwa kaKelly no ewabobo ke ababesendlini 8ncluding kaSenzo finish

[@HandsomeApe_1]

Out 8 numbers some of the numbers were previous numbers. She was using 2 numbers by then.

[@michaelmike6519]

Hahahahaha Emily yhoo wangiqeda ngokuhleka😂

[@ThembalihleMariaMkhize-yd7zq]

Ofcourse if you look at the digits of these cas 375 and 636 cas 375 should be the cas Baloi is dealing wt bt chose 636 cos of brown envelope

[@gabisiledladla4404]

Ramosepele must stop saying "I'm indebted". Maybe the so called judge will stop undermining him. The guy is too apologetic. I really hope the uncle of Ntuli is stinking rich. We need Mngo all the way.

[@phumzagalada6263]

Nt ntuli sibiya uncle

[@trustyguriras9607]

There is no fair olay in rathas court, let best team win the game, so to say let all the evidence speak for itself without being hindered....

[@Balebetse-os3df]

Hi Family! Demon in a red robe is on duty in the Senzo murder trial. Ratha is the best of worse judges and an insult to our judicial system. When Mngomezulu asked for a tea break, Ratha rebuffed, but if it were Baloyi asking, he would've just said, “okay with no hesitation, stood up and walked out.”

[@maqophellotsira7076]

Innocent until proven guilty. Ratha makayokulala ngoku udiniwe shame

[@christinamoila5644]

Ratha AKA king of Soweto Tarvens

[@mathaboshange5803]

Please like the video guys the views no is incresing every minute it is a ryt thing to do plz

[@tshikelosobuthongo2612]

RAMOSEPELE says i differ with Court evidence 😅. Emily i laugh with you all times. This Judge is exposed long time, he must stand up and leave this Court room. We need a fair and sound Judge.

[@luciamatsabe6989]

Mr Carling Black Label(Ratha) will be exposed soon, if not already.

[@siphiweelliesongo]

Ngicela I interpreter yethu lomlisa itsa no no❌️

[@MzansiReality]

😂😂😂

[@pamelacecane435]

This case is a joke 😢

[@bongisiwedube9105]

UZOZIBULALA UBALOYI😅😅😅

[@bongisiwedube9105]

This Ratha aphinde aphike into ayenza on Camera naphambi kwezwe and kudala aqala ukwenza lento from koZandi abameli bethule bakhathele manje

[@NolwaziM]

Mgomezulu knows everyones numbers by head. He does have a brain of an elephant

[@bongiwemohapi5713]

I noticed that when he came on board he never asked for an adjournment to go through the statements he just rolled with it, the man is good

[@smangelemnisi8961]

​@@bongiwemohapi5713Mngomezulu is a pro.. he cracked this case open and made the other lawyers to wake up and fight for their clients

[@thembimadi9537]

I noticed that too...he is genius

[@bongisiwedube9105]

Wenze kahle uMnisi wathi akumiwe kubuywe kuGous as Ratha want 2funished yesterday 2avoid Mshololo yuuu usile yooo

[@marvellous_m3571]

The cruelty of this judge, he is the devil personified. Yho!!

[@user-jx5gh1dk3b]

Uzungu uyadingeka manje azochaza ukuthi wayekhuphi no accused ngoba ama 205 athi babengekho evoslorus that day

[@thokozanimbuyisa-ld8hf]

With 50 years of experience the Judge keep on answering on behalf of the witness. 😅

[@thandikote878]

I love how advocate Mngomezulu deals with ratha uppercut "you see Mr Gous I listen and I write notes" that was a good one it landed to the write candidate

[@bildaledwaba8074]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nhlanhlasikhosana6621]

Does the defense really have to wait for the final guilty decision from ratha or is there an option to report him for being biased

[@thokomasondo9687]

The State wants people to ignore that Ntanzi's phone was on tour, traveling throughout Gauteng whilst the accused was in company if the crooked police,Mogane and late Mabhena,Rata is trying to get the explations that are dumb

[@bulambethebnag7370]

Mgomezulu ended this case it is done and dusted the more the state is trying to resuscitate it is the more the state is getting exposed

[@Tsidyannamohapi2381]

Truth hurts Baloyi is dishonest and untruthful allegedly. Not true is a bit honourable. I loved when he laughed at Baloyi continuously being dishonest. I thought he was copying what Ratha always says you see mr Mngomezulu I listen here in court and I write notes 😂😂😂Mngo is a dangerous slow poison I couldn’t even understand what excited the judge because I clearly understood what Mngomezulu was saying even when he came back to explain it. At the time of Senzo’s passing,no3 wasn’t at Voslo till the following day

[@buhlegcabashe4895]

How sad that no3 wasn't in Vosl but the judge doesn't seem to take notice of tht😮

[@Tsidyannamohapi2381]

@@buhlegcabashe4895 no3 was in Voslo on the 26/10/2014 but not around the estimated times of Senzo’s death till 27th at some time when he came back. Even if he was there we don’t have evidence that suggests he was in or around the spaza 🏠

[@princessmabena1403]

Why you people always come on line so late

[@nhlanhlamanatha8799]

They have other things to do before,eg prepare for work before coming life,sotht nabo they can go straight to bed after

[@philaniwonderboymbuyazi]

Judge Ratha is baais

[@mohurutse8436]

Thanks

[@MzansiReality]

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