Senzo Meyiwa Trial:Mngomezulu collapses Baloyi's evidence as proofs how irrelevant it is.

A signal from a phone alleged to belong to accused number 2 in the Senzo Meyiwa demise trial - was picked up from a cellphone tower near Villieria police station in Pretoria.
This is according to cellphone data analyst Gideon Gouws who has been testifying at the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria.
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[@livhukharivhe6363]

Let's like the video guys

[@lindiwesithole6192]

I was very happy when Baloyi said it that the state is trying to prove that the police did not confiscated the phone. Bcos Baloyi is capable of changing the story

[@klevayerasta2023]

Baloyi has to be charged for defeating the ends of justice together with his croonies the so called investigators!

[@user-zc4zp7gi2x]

Mgomezulu must be given a bells, uyalala alalelisise avuke esededela isgaxa😂😂

[@sontogumede989]

Even UCronje said Ntanzi asked to call his family and take a bath, so how can u ask to call ur family if u had a phone???

[@nonny-it3my]

Imagine

[@thokomasondo9687]

No the Court (Rata) and the State think everybody is dumb

[@bildaledwaba8074]

True,only a fool can believe that 30%😝

[@Livayva]

Exactly,. 😀

[@beltarngwenya]

good question 🤔

[@molefeseitei9508]

Why doesn't the Ngomezulu demand the cell phone records of the investigation officers? That would ascertain if they were indeed answering or using the same phone while in their possession as it will put them in the same areas the phone is alleged to have been used while the accused was in jail...Sebastian from Botswana and I work for a cellular service provider this side.

[@AudyMyende]

P

[@mmashadimodutoane4232]

Great point ✊🏾

[@thusoramakobya7054]

The state is buying time to drain accused one legal funds for mghomezulu...

[@valentinezulu8018]

I agree with you

[@davidbodigelo5173]

Legal aid think Mngomezulu won't get paid and stop representing accused number one, they are lying we will make sure we donate money into his account.

[@barbarapeters2945]

@@davidbodigelo5173 Nje!!

[@christinamoila5644]

I was expecting cellphone movements at the Vosloorus hostel since Zungu mentioned that they went to hostel

[@NthatiMotsabi]

State is always proving its lies everyday

[@victorvertuin3942]

This is an excellent observation why does the accuse cellfone not place dem at the hostel wit Zungu? Can we get Zungu cellfone to investigate if he was indeed in Voslorus?

[@valentinezulu8018]

Nakhuyaaaaaaa😂

[@goitsemodimoxiangxhilingla569]

Not only cellphone even avl for the car he was driving that day remember he was using state vehicle ... Zungu must come and repeat his story

[@octaviantombzodwatshabalal4531]

UJehova ungumalusi omuhle uyazazi izinsizi zethu,uyakuzwa ukukhala kwethu.Uthi" Akukho okufihlakele okungayikuvela" Baloyi no Gininda must repent and stop terrorizing innocent people. In Baloyis case ,maybe God was showing him something when his 10yrs old shot himself with his gun.Baloyi stop your shenanigans and turn to God.Big Ups to Mngomezulu may God protest and give more wisdom💥💥🙏🙏🙏

[@tshikelosobuthongo2612]

Emily please read that big English from Mngomezulu again 😅😅😅. Love it. ❤

[@bildaledwaba8074]

Brilliant Mr Mngomezulu🔥🔥🔥🔥💪

[@malatjijohannes8722]

You got to love Adv Mngomezulu this man reminds me adv Malesela Teffo

[@bildaledwaba8074]

💔💔

[@TumiMcMaster]

Ijoooo can Baloyi put on record that the phone was never taken away from Ntanzi on the 16 June 2020 so He had the phone the whole time till it was only taken on 8 feb 2021💔💔Mogane,Mogola,Gininda must come backand tell us what is their procedure for arresting a suspect!!this case is madness!!Mogane was planting evidence with that phone the whole time

[@nonny-it3my]

Yes they must answer to this

[@khoimkhwanazimusic3504]

Can they also tell us about the charger they confiscated

[@lindiwesithole6192]

Baloyi has thrown the police under the bus, he suggested that the police did not do their job properly when arresting Ntanzi.

[@mhlonishwabiyase5532]

What happened to Ntanzi is 😔 sad.

[@mxobhungane143]

Good day, team. I honestly find it very difficult to watch this case because of biasness of the judge. Even defense can crush evidence and challenge it, but the judge doesn't care. The judge doesn't take anything from the defense side. He's one-sided and believes only the state. Allegedly. I take as defense wasting time so painful 😫 even if new witness can come and say Allegedly I killed senzo meyiwa he won't listen 😤 because he thinks baloyi is only one who right with cooking evidence.

[@thokomasondo9687]

Salute to Dlakadla, Mngoooo, people say u sleep in Court,maybe u do ,but u always come up with Bombshells that will surprise even your fellow Defence team💪💪💪💪🤟🤟🤟🤟👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

[@bildaledwaba8074]

He told the court that,not all of the defence is confused,and he meant that he was gathering facts.💪💪👑my King❤️❤️

[@skhululimanzini]

He will be not sleeping by listening to boring , painful and disgusting court

[@trustyguriras9607]

He never sleeps he just confused them by pretending as asleep but actually he has a absorbent mind.. the wisedom of grace only giving by Almighty God... That wisedom of adv ngomezulu is highly remarkable, May Our Good Lord please protect him with his family and all the defence.... Allahu Akbar... Amen.

[@MalehuMagwele-xt5by]

Hi family we not stupid,the police were using suspects s phone ,something is fishing,is either they were trying to see if suspects kniw each other by calling them using their phones,we not stupid,that is how the investigator are doing,

[@barbarapeters2945]

Baloyi fumbled big time and the judge is trying to help but it's not coming together. The data is working against them.

[@vusimasemola3085]

This case is a mess....Zungu lied under oath that he was with acc no3 at hostel during the day of incident

[@goitsemodimoxiangxhilingla569]

Baloyi is saying cellphone might have been in Joburg but accused no3 be in different place...if that is the case state should have never brought cell phones as evidence since it doesn't proof nothing beyond reasonable doubt

[@user-rh5zz7gk8r]

Ntanzi was handcuffed all the time and he was accompanied by the police all the time and where did he charge and where lastly he had the phone but could not inform his family about his arrest how strange is that? I wish the defence can ask these questions

[@Positive_vibes1982]

Ramosepele's task is very easy here, he needs the AVL and compare it with this phone analysis. According to the police he was traveling with them while he was handcuffed, yet he was using his phone. He was kept in solitaire, in different police stations who would keep his phone for him? how did he charge it? Now they confirm that they arrested his on the 16 June🤣🤣🤣 Remember Mogane on his initial testimony he said they confiscated 2 phones from him.

[@lindiwesithole6192]

That's what I thought I heard, but now I started being confused if my memory was serving me well

[@vyawocharles1976]

Adv Thulani Mgomezulu is a genius.... I liked the way he set up his cross examination... it was like hes skirting away not knowing hes going for the jugular

[@lisbethrakgoroana2120]

That celebtation of Mngomezulu after grilling that Gouws,OMW WOW!!!✊✊✊💪💪💪.Khuphuka nabo Dlakadla uJehova esimkhonzayo kozeli kalali #HABASHWE

[@thandoklaas4679]

My worry is the judge trying to rescue the day for Baloyi,just look at his clarity seeking questions how they were the opposite of what was being said by defence seemingly trying to confuse them

[@busisiwemalunga2957]

Mrng Fam I don't think Mngomezulu sleeps in court, he just closes his eyes and consume everything which is said, May God continue to cover him.

[@mongezixaba3211]

Asbonge team for a good analysis of the day to day court section 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@MzansiReality]

❤️🙏

[@Big-George]

How did he answer his phone with handcuffs.

[@phumzagalada6263]

Gud question sir

[@nonny-it3my]

Imagine

[@christinamoila5644]

Good question

[@thembikhumalo-cg5uh]

AS FAR AS I KNOW THROUGH EXPERIENCE THERE ARE NO PLUGS INSIDE THE CELLS

[@lindiwesithole6192]

Even if there were Ntanzi would not be having a charger.

[@petroguilherme5549]

Dankie Mr A and Emily ...this podcast covers this case excellently .... Mngo het Gouws "geskud" Mngo confused them as we were for days with this BS ...all changed with accused #3 out of the picture....the guy with the "gun" ...now they the state really need to proof their narrative

[@user-em3fc6id3f]

Watching from Edinburgh Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 SA CITIZEN

[@sontogumede989]

Mogane was using Ntanzis phone

[@skhululimanzini]

He said he had it ringing in his pocket

[@nhlanhlasikhosana6621]

I don't buy the judges suddenly treating everyone the same I think he's softening the defense so they can let their guard down then agadle a leopard never changes it's spot

[@abudlkader927]

We are just perambulating on the outskirts of veracity😢😢😢

[@Livayva]

Thizaa I'm coming back.. your English is heavyweight phela we also learn here.👌🏾

[@siphiwe_ingwane]

Guy's thank you for the hard work you putting ❤

[@thokomasondo9687]

Ntanzi said he heard his phone ringing in Mogane or Mabhena pocket,and since they were Touring Gauteng with him in the Fortuna hence all the Towers were picking it's signal, c'mon Baloi are we all stupid really?

[@lebomahase3997]

I still remember too, I don't understand how come the defense team don't mention it

[@judithkekana-hl7um]

Baloyi really playing games with our minds

[@nosiphosibsngela1994]

Baloi is confused and is mumbling a lot trying to explain the inexplicable, is not make sure . 😊

[@siyamsiyana5396]

Mngomezulu does not write anything he is something else that guy ubabambe ngawo ama... OBaloi... The judge can see that this is now becoming a problem but he was so calm today

[@Adjudicator246]

Mngo patiently established a foundation for challenging the state's narrative. Next, Rams must lay a basis and compare No 2's movements on the AVL, contrasting the two forensic data sets. The state will have no choice but to admit that the cellphone unit and No 2 moved independently of each other.

[@rudzaniraliphada3066]

This is the beginning of the truth

[@pumzilesiyokwana9786]

I think Mngo must ask for Zungu's section 205 and check if Zungu was really at Vooslorus on the 26-10 2014,then avele ayivale lecase😂😂😂

[@bulambethebnag7370]

Yes I agree with Mr anonymous Ramosepele is himself now he came out guns blazing yesterday putting Baloyi on his place

[@skhululimanzini]

He is suppose to pull-up his socks seriously for Ntanzi

[@MthimkhuluD]

All that evidence by Gouws is useless coz u can always rebut it as mngomezulu said … all pointless .

[@sontogumede989]

I think they called him to take out Kelly on this

[@khutala1]

Its sad to see the trauma they put Ntanzi through.With all due respect justice for Senzo but its important we advocate for justice for Ntazi.Gods protection over Bongani Ntanzis life.Expose all those lies.Culprits who kill Senzo must pay heavily for what they did.Cooking investigating team must be arrested

[@nomvulahnkomo6995]

Where did Ntanzi buy airtime for 8 months bathung?

[@octaviantombzodwatshabalal4531]

Baloyi uzimoshele 😁😁😁😁😁

[@user-ut9dz8oc2k]

Looks like All the blame is going to put it left with Ntanzi bcos Ramos he can’t asked the relevant questions like you Emily and Mr Anonymous and must learn to believes Ntanzi version not listen to judge and Baloyi version . Ntanzi was beaten up , was kept alone in the cell , was stripped naked checking tattoo, dentist, but had a phone with him ??? . Ramos must try to focus in Ntanzi version and less reading those nonsense files

[@reginahmutewera5563]

I was happy Baloyi say some one can use your phone, it means as well someone can use your bank card and someone can wear your clothes

[@barbarapeters2945]

Yes it simply means Ntanzi's phone was used by someone else.

[@colinmoore7708]

Who paid for the cell phone all those months?

[@Benson1973]

The state have prosecutors like Baloyi then Eish shame South African

[@siphiwe_ingwane]

You guys work hard better than Baloyi ,Ratha and Sibanda 😂😂😂

[@user-em3fc6id3f]

I LIKE MGOMEZULU HE IS THE BEST as well as Mnisi and Mshololo they know their job shame CONGRADULATIONS to them May God blessed them Watching

[@vivianmoremi2033]

Thanks!

[@MzansiReality]

❤️❤️❤️🙏

[@thokomasondo9687]

Emily, it's not only your opinion, it's on record that Ntanzi was kept in the Fortuna and moving around with Mogane and the crooked gang,Ntanzi handcuffed,and entered the Magistrates rooms ,the State is really dumb to think people are that stupid

[@user-qq5et4wm9p]

The fone was confiscated but not reported on purpose to make calls and receive messages to implicate Ntanzi.Thats ridiculous.He failed to call his family, being arrested for the first time to top it all murder.We r being made fools here Mzansi.Baloyi is sick together with the judge to believe that.

[@Kgosietsile83]

Did you saw the celebration of Mngomezulu after objections

[@ZEEH406]

And Mshololo was so proud of Mngomezulu I saw her smiling when Mngomezulu is cross examining

[@thandoklaas4679]

That was exciting to watch,when you know that you hv them where you want them to go , he even said he was expecting them to object and explained how❤❤❤❤❤

[@pholobian]

DNA and Cellphone records excluding accuse 3 from the crime scene

[@gugumbonambi9470]

God is always Good May he protects the defence team .Exposed those coocker and the main Chef in this case of Senza Meyiwa

[@ncamsilepatience3172]

Mrng gang a u all here now ❤️ bt I remember Ntanzi saying he heard his phone ringing from one of investigators he noticed his ring tone mhlampe babe kumshikashika already 😳

[@davidbodigelo5173]

State fumbled almost same as baiza

[@goodnesssthembilemnguni3307]

Gud morning Mr anonymous and Emily thanks so much for the work I highly appreciate, you know corrupt justice team has no ways to hide, Ratha himself tends to blame his favorite Vaseline,

[@thatseth]

🎉🎉🎉🎉34K🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@anniemanda-qh2sj]

Unfortunately we the viewers are the only ones that can see that this evidence doesn't make sence as for the judge hayyyyyy

[@ntokozombhele]

Good morning Mr Anonymous and Emily 🎉

[@nonny-it3my]

Ntanzi told us before that Mabhena had his phone

[@innocentiahadebe4138]

Ntanzi's issue expose State its unbelievable that you arrested a person took his phone but dukuduku discovered on Cells this is nonsense what Baloyi and Gininda trying they won't succeed siyabuka siwumphakathi😮😮😮😮

[@ntlharitheophel3529]

Viva Mngomezulu 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@user-em3fc6id3f]

I Like your dynamic presentation

[@phindie8573]

Mrng Mr A n Emily ❤❤, baloyi, zungu n the people who were in the must be arrested n this case must be closed

[@thokomasondo9687]

Ntanzi said he dropped out in Grade 8or STD. 8,so that's why he could read all the Street names they were passing,but to expect him to be able to read Legal Documents with understanding is stupidity at it's best, including the State and Court.they are acting dumb on purpose MNXM

[@PatienceDaki]

Good morning family 👪the state does not have a case .Why Baloyi is lying about Ntanzi having his phone. Remember accused no2 saying Mogola was having his phone calling people and Mogane stays around there.

[@lindamkhwebane]

Good morning family 🙏🏽

[@mhlonishwabiyase5532]

That's phone just lives forever.

[@thandikote878]

Bottom less battery very interesting

[@user-kr2cf4zp8h]

They take out Nthanzi clothes off looking for tattoos why they did not see the phone and he was charging the phone with which charger

[@gabisilemabuza4099]

Beautiful observation Mr Anonymous. There is no such thing that a phone is not charged for 8 months. What a phone!!! Baloyi must stop wasting our time.

[@HandsomeApe_1]

Baloi argument is that at some point someone from outside took the phone and bring it back... but it was covid, no visitors allowed

[@mamelaskunana]

U know the longer they keep a witness long on the stand, lies r bound to sneak in.

[@mochudimantja9346]

This people will never see heaven haaaaai

[@nthabibotsi9855]

Not knowing English doesn't mean they totally doesn't know it. They can read, hear and speak English a little "BUT" not in a position of being "FLUENT" to express themselves in legal matters. It's their right to a fair trial. There were witnesses from SAPS assigned with translators and in the process of giving evidence, they turn to speaking English. It's their right to be vanished with documents in front of them. "

[@vivianmoremi2033]

Mogola, Gininda, Baloyi, and others, their heads are on the chop board 😂😂😂😂

[@NokuthulaJele]

Morning Cc Emily and Mr Anonymous i think Avalon tower might be in Soweto

[@sibongisenimasilela7467]

Hello guys.....I love you here in Nelspruit 💞💖💞💖💞

[@MzansiReality]

❤️🙏

[@prudencesibanyoni3114]

My family this is just a joke 😂😂😂😂 I laughed went the judge called it madness 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿 to Mngomezulu 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 We just continue praying for his protection 🙏🏾🙏🏾 Justice for Nthanzi and Senzo ✊🏿✊🏿 And continue doing excellent job U hav our l00% support ✊🏿✊🏿

[@mathaboshange5803]

Thumbs uo to bab uMgoh❤❤

[@mathaboshange5803]

😂😂 Ntanzi was beaten and bled his tshirt that even today never given to him with phone,poured with cold water..phone survived😂😂 baloyi yoh

[@sbusisomtshali9215]

❤

[@user-jx5gh1dk3b]

Yessss🎉🎉🎉

[@ThabisaTyobo-nh3bw]

Own goal😂😂by state sisonke aspheli mandla asilali

[@MzansiReality]

😂😂😂❤️

[@siphonengu5436]

Very true. The trap they set to catch the accused is the same trap that has given them hope. This can only be God's doing. They underestimated the defense, especially Mngomezulu, and they over estimated their ability to manipulate anything with the support of the judge, of course.

[@abudlkader927]

The question of the phone is just a small part of the big issue.

[@user-jx5gh1dk3b]

Hi Emily and anonymous ngiyamnika I 🍹 ubaba umngomezulu Dlakadla udlakadle ngisho ubaloyi no ratha kwathuleka🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ngonivere8738]

Did i get it right? Watching the courtroom live yesterday Bahoyi wanted to exclusively enter records from cellphone tower record closest to the jail, leaving out all other cellphone tower records. If that had happened, all movements of that phone would not be relevant to the trial. How sneaky n cheeky this Bahoi is...Mr Anno we need more Bahoi impersonations please 😂❤

[@Livayva]

Kuphekwa kungxanyiwe apha hence ingavuthwa lembiza yoBaloyi

[@WigglebiggleShortOFF]

It's possible to track a lost phone to its exact location but not possible to tell location from where calls made.. allegedly

[@abudlkader927]

Heard of pinging rather than ringing the phone😮😮😮😮

[@user-em3fc6id3f]

I LOVE YOU TOO MZANZI CHANNEL

[@bonganenkosi1308]

All those towers that has been mentioned,the defence team if they are smart enough they can use that as Evidence that Ntanzi was kept in that Fortuner,it really symbolises that Ntanzi was assaulted,His cellphone was cofisticated on his arrest

[@gugumbonambi9470]

The time is up we need the truth we waited patiently for a long time now.We want the truth at Mzansi

[@matekedigojane571]

Poor Ntanzi 😢

[@Adjudicator246]

In densely polluted areas, cell towers are closely packed to meet high service demand, while in sparsely populated areas, towers are few and far between. Thus, it's difficult for Gouws to locate a tower in a dense area but easy in a sparse area. For instance, Small Street might have over 60 cell towers, each named with the 'Small Street' prefix (Small Street 1, Small Street 2, ..... Small Street 60).

[@brianzwivhuya2472]

This Baloyi is embarrassing himself

[@skhululimanzini]

Baloi was telling us that there is one person who was switching on and off Ntanzis phone and giving to him,that person is Mohane is the one who have Ntanzi's phone bt wasn't giving him he was the one making calls as he said he leaves near the police station where Ntanzi was.

[@teamsange]

Dlakadla!!!!!!!!!!!!! Game over!!!!!!!!!!

[@Demag-ee5xt]

Who bought airtime for him in my opinion Valeria police must be invistigated

[@bonganiemmanuel303]

Akukho okuyofihlwa kungaveli..phekwabo Defense Team

[@abudlkader927]

Do u expect the witness to look at Sun City Tower. Valeria was the closest tower. It's not a joke.??😮😮These suspects are too clever .They know how to fool our Dom policemen.😅😮😅😮

[@vibesvlog4681]

Every building has a foundation. If the foundation is not solid, the entire building collapses. This cell phone was meant to put this accused on the crime scene. If that fails, the whole trial will definitely not stand.