Sequence Breaking Chrono Trigger Has Bizarre Effects | Sequence Break

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@Pensive_Scarlet
@Pensive_Scarlet 9 ай бұрын
In defense of Magus, nobody can properly interact with Dalton. That man is a walking disaster.
@ArkThePieKing
@ArkThePieKing 9 ай бұрын
God I love my fail husband, he's so terrible in every sense of the word. He just sucks.
@TriforceWisdom64
@TriforceWisdom64 9 ай бұрын
Dalton ruins everything, including the ending.
@RyanBlazeheart
@RyanBlazeheart 9 ай бұрын
@@TriforceWisdom64 Yeah he caused Chrono Cross
@Duneraven
@Duneraven 9 ай бұрын
It's just his thing, okay?
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 9 ай бұрын
He's the only NPC so bad, the entire game would've been better without him (and the sequel, too).
@Caydiem
@Caydiem 9 ай бұрын
1:38 That transformation from Magus to Ayla is pretty cool, not gonna lie.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 9 ай бұрын
Ohhh my goth momma Ayla, sheesh.
@joshuaclaassen9325
@joshuaclaassen9325 7 ай бұрын
Nice little Easter egg, considering Toriyama-san's art style... those palette swaps really remind me of other DBZ characters. Rest in peace, Akira Toriyama... 2023
@TheParasitick1
@TheParasitick1 9 ай бұрын
The music hits hard every time man...that's so crazy.
@Scorp721
@Scorp721 9 ай бұрын
Man, the modders behind Chrono Trigger + must have had quite a few of these instances to deal with when they allowed players to do some things out of order. One of the things you can do, is instead of leaving the End of Time to go to the Middle Ages, you can go straight to 65M B.C. to do the Red Rock quest. It lets you recruit Ayla right then, instead of having to wait for your second trip back when you tackle Tyrano Lair. Which means you can fight Masamune with Ayla. So they probably had to deal with her flying away at the start. You can also sub Chrono out of the party before the end game, which probably opened up even more broken events to fix or rewrite. Loved the video btw. Its always nice to get a peek behind the curtain, and Chrono Trigger is one of my fav games of all time.
@lillyspikes2769
@lillyspikes2769 9 ай бұрын
There are a huge number of recodes, exceptions, and flag manipulations that were necessary to get the randomizer working for CT due to all these weird interactions.
@redpup112
@redpup112 9 ай бұрын
I swear, the more I learn about Chrono Trigger the more I love it.
@D2RCR
@D2RCR 9 ай бұрын
5:00 Crono is in contempt of court!
@flatmanv2
@flatmanv2 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely thrilled that you pronounce all the characters' names the same way I do.
@BoundaryBreak
@BoundaryBreak 9 ай бұрын
I thrilled that youre excited instead of correcting me! lol
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 9 ай бұрын
I pronounced it “Mass-A-Myoon” as a kid. I have a hard time changing to the correct way nowadays.
@durianaleria7919
@durianaleria7919 9 ай бұрын
Same. Playing through rebirth and catching myself saying 'Aeris' quite a bit 😋
@Vulpas
@Vulpas 9 ай бұрын
@@BoundaryBreak 10:26 What happens if you have Magus here?!
@BoundaryBreak
@BoundaryBreak 9 ай бұрын
@@Vulpas he just stands there with no dialogue :)
@YARGGG_GG
@YARGGG_GG 9 ай бұрын
always had a soft spot for palette swaps and such. :) fun times.
@pietincat
@pietincat 9 ай бұрын
Same-that might have been my favorite part of the video!
@swordofkings128
@swordofkings128 9 ай бұрын
That's extremely interesting the developer organized character palettes so consistently, I never would have thought palette swapping between the characters would end up with such good results. Seems like hair color, skin and such share the same indices between palettes!
@Zack_Wester
@Zack_Wester 9 ай бұрын
I think its because character sprite don't really contains colour (well I think they does the default one need to look it up). think of all the enemies in the game that have the same sprite/model but different colours. so what happen is the game loads the sprite, sets the colour that is just a list of colours. when you switch it switches to the model but still keeps the original list of colours. so let say we have a 2 high and 10 wide sprite of something reading it left to right top to bottom. it goes pixel 1-1 (colour1), 1-2, (colour1), 1-3(colour2) and so on. then it goes list the list of colors are colour1=Blue, colour2= Yellow. now if we switch the model it still does that but the colour1= does not uppdate for example from colour1=blue to Green and so on.
@swordofkings128
@swordofkings128 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that's what I'm saying, you would still need to organize the palette such it works across character tiles. I'm guessing it was just easier to try keeping main character palette indices consistent so sprite artists would know 0 is outline, 1 is hair, 2 is hair, 3 is clothing, etc... for example. And programmers and other artists would be on the same page for color palette order. It's just a happy side effect that they end up looking not horrible in a lot of cases!
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 9 ай бұрын
This is something I'm doing as a developer on my current RPG project. Making every possible combination of character sprite and character palette at least function, even if some combos aren't that good. What counts as "blade" on a weapon and what is "handle", what is "the dominant saturated color" of a character's outfit and what is a "secondary clothing" and what is "highlights". Part of the intention is to release the resulting sprites and palettes for other amateur RPG developers, to give them something of an easily-imitable and easily-edited style that still makes at least some use of shading.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 9 ай бұрын
This game really was perfectly put together so much care, aside from that one one little bad pixel.
@vaiyt
@vaiyt 6 ай бұрын
Seiken Densetsu 3 aka Trials of Mana does it even better. You can freely swap character classes and the palettes always work perfectly on every character.
@Magus12000BC
@Magus12000BC 9 ай бұрын
In the prerelease version, Magus does have dialog on the Blackbird. So he was intended to be there at one point in the game's development.
@creature6715
@creature6715 9 ай бұрын
The chancellor is gonna have a field day with the fact Chrono was also a warlord in charge of an invading superpower back in the year 600.
@Zeiru
@Zeiru 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Fun Fact: A lot of these bizarre effects can be intentionally enforced in a lot of modern Randomizers for Chrono Trigger.
@NightcoreClips_
@NightcoreClips_ 9 ай бұрын
Awesome, I was actually waiting for this series to come back believe it or not❤
@BoundaryBreak
@BoundaryBreak 9 ай бұрын
glad i could finally deliver!
@NightcoreClips_
@NightcoreClips_ 9 ай бұрын
@BoundaryBreak Thank you again, truly! 🥰
@DeadMedia-vf4je
@DeadMedia-vf4je 9 ай бұрын
@@BoundaryBreakI rewatched your Paper Mario Video over and over again
@SpringySpring04
@SpringySpring04 9 ай бұрын
YES YES YES! I love Chrono Trigger so much, thank you for covering it, especially with Akira Toriyama's recent passing. It's good to come back to this classic masterpiece
@lepterfirefall
@lepterfirefall 9 ай бұрын
Aahhh...chrono trigger. Those tunes TOTALLY take me back.
@treypug
@treypug 9 ай бұрын
Chrono Trigger is SUCH a great game that even though I've never even played it myself, it's still one of my favorites. Thank you for the videos as always!!
@ArcRay20
@ArcRay20 9 ай бұрын
now THIS is the kind of stuff i originally hoped for with this series alongside normal in-game sequence breaking, messing with the game's data in normally impossible ways to see what it does in certain scenarios.
@scottgardner2950
@scottgardner2950 9 ай бұрын
I always wanted a new Sequence Break, i never knew i NEEDED another until i saw this
@demonkingt
@demonkingt 9 ай бұрын
funfact square commonly does their sequences like this. ff7 is a big example of many triggers always being active meaning huge chunks of the game are skippable if you can find ways to get to them. examples being sector 7 to sector 8. cosmo canyon skip. you can actually get vincent during nibelheim flashback (crashes game). which is a good thing they do this since if you were to actually skip chunks of gameplay some times you'd be locked out of going back to continue such as sector 7 to 8 of ff7. you can also see sequences breaks in ff10 such as skipping djose won't get you ixion but you can just go right on to shoopuff ride if you find a way to do it. not sure on other square examples at this moment though.
@InsomniacMatt
@InsomniacMatt 9 ай бұрын
Rest in peace, Toriyama
@mortemomnia
@mortemomnia 9 ай бұрын
Please continue working on sequence break! An oft under appreciated topic, but one of my absolute favorites.
@Vulpas
@Vulpas 9 ай бұрын
Goth Ayla is something I didn't know I needed.
@eaglescout1984
@eaglescout1984 9 ай бұрын
7:45 In your defense and mine, they did not put an accent over the "e", so Masa-moon is how any western language speaker would pronounce that.
@UltraNurture
@UltraNurture 9 ай бұрын
Very glad to see this series return! Love the channel and all the unique series it brings!
@EvanStreblow
@EvanStreblow 9 ай бұрын
Sequence break is back!! I absolutely loved this series back in the day so it’s great to see it again!
@FF2Guy
@FF2Guy 9 ай бұрын
2:00 Crono cosplaying Cloud
@raydespoir
@raydespoir 9 ай бұрын
Two things you missed. #1 What happens on Chrono's resurrection scene when you don't pick the characters that normally interact with Chrono. Such as Magus only, or a party without Lucca, Marle, and I forget the third person that interacts with Chrono. #2 Second, when visiting the rainbow shell in Guardia's basement, Marle has dialogue with the party members who remind her of something. What if only Chrono is in your party? Fun fact, if you bring Magus and Chrono, Magus' dialogue plays because Chrono never talks, and he calls Marle an idiot lol #3 Thirdly, and you somewhat covered this, but when Melchior makes the masamune, normally the game wants Lucca to be the one to help forge it, so she takes precedence over Robo. The only way to see her dialogue commenting on the completed masamune is if you do not have her in your party and have Robo instead. But when Robo is taken away, you specifically have to switch Lucca back in your party before going downstairs. It's cool the programmed Lucca's dialogue to be there. I discovered this many many playthroughs in.
@guguig9746
@guguig9746 9 ай бұрын
Hell yeah ! New episode in the series, and it's about one of the best games ever
@AwdryFan1997
@AwdryFan1997 9 ай бұрын
The greatest return I could imagine!
@FortyTwoBlades
@FortyTwoBlades 9 ай бұрын
Once while deactivating an instant-battle-victory Game Genie code in ZSNES it caused a weird glitch where I was able to equip any weapon on Robo, and he'd do full attack animations. This leads me to think that before they decided on giving him "arm" weapons he may have been intended to be able to equip anything. I remember giving him one of Magus' scythe weapons and he did a proper animation for the critical hit attack. However, it may be possible that like with the sprites this is something where certain sprites are simply chained based on a predetermined sequence and that they exist natively for all characters. In any case, it was kind of wild when it happened.
@chronoscat3371
@chronoscat3371 9 ай бұрын
There is a Game Genie code that allows you to equip any weapon or armor on any character. When a character uses a weapon they aren't supposed to have, they go through their normal attack animation but with the pallet and special effects of the weapon. Sometimes it looks really cool; other times it's a scrambled mess.
@FortyTwoBlades
@FortyTwoBlades 9 ай бұрын
@@chronoscat3371 yeah in this case there weren't any pallet changes and the animation was definitely not the usual, which was the part that surprised me.
@vaiyt
@vaiyt 6 ай бұрын
The weapon effects and character animations are called in separately, so when you equip a character with the wrong weapon, the game asks for an entry in that specific character's animation list, then draws from the full list of weapon animations. When i did weapon swaps in Ogre Battle 64, the game would simply treat the new weapon as the equivalent entry in that character's weapon list. Giving the 6th entry in the sword list to a bow user would cause them to use the animation of the 6th bow. Amusingly, that also happened if I put armor in the weapon slots or whatever.
@dangerforthebrain2
@dangerforthebrain2 9 ай бұрын
HELL YES SEQUENCE BREAK IS BACK!
@DrH3mp
@DrH3mp 9 ай бұрын
Glad to see a new video! Love this channel and all the sequence breaking/out of bounds stuff!
@Goombella
@Goombella 9 ай бұрын
So, fun fact about the character swapping, making characters change palettes: that can be done in the vanilla game. In a later section where Robo is forced into the first character slot, he has a one-on-one boss fight, and after that fight, when your party is restored, note which characters are in slot 2 and 3. As long as you don't leave that screen, swapping them in the menu won't change their positions. Then when you go into the next encounters, one of which being that dungeon's end boss, those two characters will swap palettes with each other. Just...don't try this in the DS or any later ports of the game, as it'll just crash instead. XD
@Megatron_Hunt_Life
@Megatron_Hunt_Life 9 ай бұрын
5 years didn't feel that long.
@KampsKnows
@KampsKnows 9 ай бұрын
I rewinded when he said that, just in case I heard him wrong.
@DJDroz-gh5nt
@DJDroz-gh5nt 9 ай бұрын
So _that's_ why it's called Chrono Trigger! 'Cause you need him to "Trigger" so much stuff.
@neatocheeto1702
@neatocheeto1702 9 ай бұрын
Commenting for engagement. Keep posting, Shesez!!!
@obvfw
@obvfw 9 ай бұрын
I beat Chrono Trigger for the first time a few weeks ago, so it's cool to see this video while the game is still on my mind.
@BasVoet
@BasVoet 9 ай бұрын
One of the essential games of all time. Love it. Thanks!
@Dwedit
@Dwedit 9 ай бұрын
My favorite thing I found while walking thru walls in Chrono Trigger was that all the Skyway/Land Bridge rooms are connected together as one big map.
@MagnumWhisper
@MagnumWhisper 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this. CT is my favorite game of all time and any time I can see it in a new light it brings me great joy. You did a wonderful job!
@Baltaczar
@Baltaczar 9 ай бұрын
I just want to say "You got whacked cause you're weak"
@RuffyRockrash
@RuffyRockrash 9 ай бұрын
glad to see sequence break back. would love to see more games!
@mcintoshpc
@mcintoshpc 9 ай бұрын
“Walks through the door like a Boundary Break episode” hehehehe
@ticron
@ticron 9 ай бұрын
"Kino just walks through it like a Boundary Break Episode" 😂
@TheAbsoluteJay
@TheAbsoluteJay 8 ай бұрын
Happy to see Sequence Break is back. I always find palette swaps interesting, was definitely my favorite part of this video.
@reinatycoon3644
@reinatycoon3644 8 ай бұрын
I'm soo glad you are doing more Seq Break episodes... unless this is an exception but either way awesome. Dude Ayla looked amazing with the Magus Palette swap.
@Sunrie
@Sunrie 9 ай бұрын
I remember using Game Genie to do the walk through walls and it was glorious
@Tuskin38
@Tuskin38 9 ай бұрын
Vinny is going to love this episode
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 9 ай бұрын
Fitting too because he just finished his newest playthrough.
@SeanLifeFlame
@SeanLifeFlame 9 ай бұрын
Okay, but I genuinely want those palette swaps as available options in a mod or something similar now. Those're just too cool to never see again.
@grn1
@grn1 8 ай бұрын
There's a mod called Chrono Trigger + as well as a randomizer. I don't know if they have palette swaps off hand but there's a good chance they do.
@ProfessM
@ProfessM 9 ай бұрын
Wish you showed all the pallet swaps. Rest in piece Akira Toriyama.
@pollvan
@pollvan 9 ай бұрын
Omg my favorite series is back
@AlvoriaGPM
@AlvoriaGPM 9 ай бұрын
I hope this does well for you. Chrono Trigger is an awesome game and it's really interesting to see how the game handles certain triggers and checks. @10:22 - OK, that got a giggle out of me. Well done sir. Well done.
@Srcsqwrn
@Srcsqwrn 9 ай бұрын
That was interesting to see. I like seeing sequence breaks! I'd love to see Legend of Legaia sequence broken one day! Thanks for another great episode, Shesez!
@serebit
@serebit 9 ай бұрын
It's back!! Really glad to see this series return.
@Megatron_Hunt_Life
@Megatron_Hunt_Life 9 ай бұрын
Good video thanks for the hard work
@36Kite36
@36Kite36 9 ай бұрын
Super cool that you brought this series back! :)
@buddyboo3972
@buddyboo3972 9 ай бұрын
Love this Video!
@apollolux
@apollolux 9 ай бұрын
After having played Chrono Trigger vanilla for nearly three decades, I played through my first Jets of Time Randomizer version of it a few weeks ago. It's definitely interesting to see how a _real_ sequence broken playthrough of CT would look like instead of a carefully crafted one! :)
@ItsHyomoto
@ItsHyomoto 3 ай бұрын
This was fascinating. As a programmer it makes me wonder in some cases why. Like, you could usually hardcode the dialogue into a scene, I wonder if the missing dialogue happened due to a fallback of some kind when it tries to retrieve the custom name ... except in other places it seems to have no problem. Then you have stuff like the Marle return which makes sense, it's likely the script there is waiting for the animation to end but, because it doesn't exist, it never properly triggers the next part of the scene. But *then* you have stuff like the wrong characters in cutscenes and *this* one I think reveals a lot about how janky Chrono Trigger was behind the scenes: this basically proves a lot of scenes were reused. Like, it's common to make "dummy scenes" for animations like these, but it would seem the developers here reused the regular scenes and, for some odd reason, expects the party composition to be just so to control behavior. My *guess* is that each party member has a unique id and this is used throughout the game, and on top of that, these objects are also used in cutscenes. Like the dummy scenes, there are apparently no dummy actors either. Still, you'd think if they needed to be in the scene they'd just ... put them in the scene in most of these cases. It's a trip. This is all just idle thoughts, but I guess in my mind Chrono Trigger was a complex and elegantly coded game and after all this I'm like, wow, it was held together with duct tape and hope!
@kuromiLayfe
@kuromiLayfe 9 ай бұрын
The one game i wished they did a FF7 Remake take off.. would be absolutely mindblending if they do a fully 3D version (Perhaps even with VR support). Sad they shut down the 3D chrono trigger project .. with models made by the people behind dragon quest :(
@H45556
@H45556 9 ай бұрын
Already loving this “oops did I rhyme?” lol good stuff
@Furnimus93
@Furnimus93 9 ай бұрын
Just started playing this a few weeks ago! About 30 hours in and it is truly a masterpiece!
@LordRemiem
@LordRemiem 9 ай бұрын
Shesez do really be playing Chrono Trigger Randomizer today
@FF2Guy
@FF2Guy 9 ай бұрын
Trying to play Chrono Trigger without the Trigger for Chrono 😂
@falcie7743
@falcie7743 9 ай бұрын
Hey sequence break is back! Glad to see it, lots of fun shenanigans happen. I sequence broke Pokemon Violet recently, you can throw a Poké Ball at a Pokémon you aren't supposed to be able to reach and snag a level 45 when your party is level 15.
@rodropoop923
@rodropoop923 5 ай бұрын
This game has such a 90’s aesthetic to it wich i love from the sound design to the plot
@Stargazing_night_sky
@Stargazing_night_sky 8 ай бұрын
I swear even with the bell on it always takes a couple days before i get a notification about your videos. Glad to see sequence break again though.
@jNetDowling
@jNetDowling 9 ай бұрын
SEQUENCE BREAK! Hell yes, so glad this is making a return
@veryslowgirl
@veryslowgirl 9 ай бұрын
New sequence break all is well again
@veryslowgirl
@veryslowgirl 9 ай бұрын
covid happened because of this
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 9 ай бұрын
Finally, after 3000 years...
@PhilipWester
@PhilipWester 8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Lucca model that assists Melchior is a custom model not used anywhere else (I don't remember ever seeing that shaking-of-the-head animation anywhere else), which is why she'll always be loaded into Melchior's basement.
@yodizzle
@yodizzle 9 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about Chrono trigger, but I love this video anyway! So fascinating! Thank you for all of your hard work!
@Zenlore6499
@Zenlore6499 9 ай бұрын
The court! 🤣 “Well, he’s not here. Let’s just pretend he is!”
@Tftapodcast
@Tftapodcast 9 ай бұрын
Chrono Trigger is my favorite game of all time too and I didn’t know any of this! Thank you for this fun look
@TheParasitick1
@TheParasitick1 9 ай бұрын
Color palettes are awesome!
@HybridAngelZero
@HybridAngelZero 9 ай бұрын
These are so cool, I love seeing stuff like this in RPGs. Also, Super Saiyan Chrono is cool, but the teal haired one has gotta be my fave
@nandu666
@nandu666 9 ай бұрын
Fav episode in a while! thanks!
@bingonight1504
@bingonight1504 9 ай бұрын
Im so glad i checked my subscriptions tab today!
@Sir_Psych
@Sir_Psych 9 ай бұрын
First time seeing a Sequence Break episode. It was great, would like to see more!
@vaiyt
@vaiyt 6 ай бұрын
The palette swap glitch reminds me of Trials of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 3) on the SNES. If you use a hacking device to give a character somebody else's class, they'll take on its palette, the cool thing is that all player palettes are perfectly compatible. So you can have everyone wearing the same colors, or do any combination you wish. The only exception is the starting classes, which all just default to the character's default colors.
@earlthepearl6414
@earlthepearl6414 9 ай бұрын
Chrono Trigger is my favorite game of all time also.
@TianaSidhe
@TianaSidhe 9 ай бұрын
Ayla turning into Launch made my day!
@Rayossan
@Rayossan 9 ай бұрын
Ahaha! 😂 I did the same pallet swap in Pokemon Crystal by starting out as a girl, and then creating a new game as a boy. Save your game but interrupt it before it completes. You now get to play as the boy with blue/pink colors. 😮 The color carries over to viewing your profile/badges. It's neat.
@ganymede4030
@ganymede4030 9 ай бұрын
Perfect timing! I'm replaying Chrono Trigger right now
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 9 ай бұрын
1:18 I didn't know this game was compatible with the SNES mouse ;)
@FerFiger
@FerFiger 9 ай бұрын
Just by listening to the music of this game, it brings me a lot of memories. And the robo song reminds me of rick roll
@MattSeremet
@MattSeremet 9 ай бұрын
Love sequence break, welcome back!!
@Hi_Just_Fred
@Hi_Just_Fred 9 ай бұрын
That pallet swap stuff looks real cool
@xSimone92x
@xSimone92x 9 ай бұрын
Omg my favorite game!! This is so fun! Sequence breaking is such a fun, niche topic. Please keep this concept going for other titles! ❤
@rossbrady89
@rossbrady89 9 ай бұрын
5 years!? Great to have it back
@benhemphill1390
@benhemphill1390 9 ай бұрын
Cool idea for a video series, happy to see you expanding again. You should do something with a channel like Displaced Gamers that goes into the code to see why this happens. Granted it is for a smaller audience, but you could just chuck this video their direction and let them do the coding.
@lucyinchat
@lucyinchat 9 ай бұрын
9 days late, but good!
@jennasloan396
@jennasloan396 9 ай бұрын
Sequence Break finally back!
@lordneeko
@lordneeko 9 ай бұрын
Chrono trigger was one of the first games that actually designed IN sequence breaks!! It's amazing development. How many endings? Lots... And MANY different ways to get there
@durianaleria7919
@durianaleria7919 9 ай бұрын
Totally need to play through this again someday soon
@mikedepue
@mikedepue 9 ай бұрын
What a great episode this was. Thank you for your that.
@anti_chocobo
@anti_chocobo 9 ай бұрын
I did a replay of this last week and thought it would be neat if you did a video on it. Thank you!!
@tykat12
@tykat12 9 ай бұрын
Perfect game to renew Sequence Break!
@yellohammer8571
@yellohammer8571 8 ай бұрын
The fact that he said, "Chrono gets to be a Super Saiyan" totally makes things come full circle, when we all know that Dragon Ball's creator drew up the artwork of the main cast, with Chrono having a strong resemblance to the franchise's cast of Saiyans. RIP, Akira Toriyama.
@Toadaboticus
@Toadaboticus 9 ай бұрын
If you clip through the sewer to Balthazars Lab in the future before your supposed to your able to talk to him and his Mu assistant.
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