Serú Girán Reaction - Canción De Alicia En El País - Soooooo Gooood

[@juan.1385]

This song was written during the military dictatorship in here, is about that whole era, the lyrics are very cryptic and it flew under the military censorship radar, brilliant.

[@GeroG3N]

Como va a volar bajo el radar del estado la metafora de una cancion? Te pensas que Charly puede escribir algo que la SIDE no puede interpretar?

[@gabrielacuna8182]

@@GeroG3N Es exactamente lo que hizo Charly mucho tiempo, no es que es imposible de interpretar pero lo cierto es que por no entender de que se trata seguro las ignoraban..

[@elhombrelol6362]

@@GeroG3N si

[@wallacetorin5678]

instablaster...

[@HugoRomeroArg]

Seru Giran “Ojos de Videotape” “Desarma y Sangra” “A los Jóvenes de Ayer” “Cinema Verite”

[@juanpablodavidquiroga3405]

Ojos de video tape ? es del album clics modernos etapa de solista de charly.... no se si entraria en la etapa de Seru Giran

[@keysersoze874]

Ojos de Vídeotape es del segundo disco solista de Charly. No es de Seru.

[@karen_ski2019]

Esta canción haciendo un paralelo con Alicia en el país de las Maravillas con la dictadura militar en Argentina. La hizo en época militar y describió la realidad de modo mágico para que no lo censuraran. Un genio!

[@pfg72]

This song has a deep political significance for a whole generation in Argentina. It came out during the Dirty War years, and somehow managed to go unnoticed by the Military Junta then in power. Charly, apart from being a musical genius of the first order, is nothing short of a folk hero here. Thanks for your reaction, mate. Cheers from Patagonia!

[@jimuarantxa]

The bass player is Pedro Aznar. Great musician, so complex and complete. You should listen to his solitaire job too.

[@keysersoze874]

El trabajo de Pedro Aznar con Madre Atómica y con el Pat Metheny Group son maravillosos.

[@ami8tomas]

El artista más brillante y lúcido de mi querido país,supo describir las peores épocas que padecimos los argentinos con su genialidad

[@juanpablodavidquiroga3405]

Excellent !!! A great vision of Argentina of 1980. !!!

[@jorgeeeep]

A los jóvenes de Ayer, de este mismo album, te va a gustar

[@ratadeleo]

para mí, la mejor canción del rock argentino

[@notmyname327]

Definitely one of my favorite seru giran songs. Have you heard Desarma y sangra? It's just piano and voice, it's got a classical music feel.

[@user-cs9qd6uz1i]

❤❤❤

[@marbon3330]

This is a history class in a few minutes with music, it's epic, brilliant.

[@gauchoendurista]

Canción de Alicia en el País is a song by Charly García, interpreted by Serú Giran composed in 1980 when Argentina was going through one of the darkest moments in its history, the last military dictatorship. The central idea of ​​this song is to implicitly reflect (due to the then persistent censorship) the reality of the country at that time. From the title you can see the omission of "Wonderland" alluding to the traditional children's story "Alice in Wonderland" In the first stanza you can see at first a metonymy of "country" referring to the institution that governs it and then a metaphor when saying that it was not done just because, which refers to the support that the military junta had when carrying out the coup, an apostrophe when saying: "you are going to go, you are going to leave" to know that they are speaking to her; there is also a rhetorical question: "where else are you going to go?" used to mention, thanks also to the previous verses, that at that time many people wanted to go into exile only that, although many succeeded, it was very difficult to do so. Then, in the second stanza there is a pleonasm and a synecdoche when saying: "the tongue twister, the murderer kills you", pleonasm because it is redundant that the murderer murders and that the tongue twister tongue twister, referring to the general and social confusion that he reigned in the Argentine and Synecdoche nation because he takes those two examples altogether to tell Alicia that according to the military government the only truth according to them was the official one. There is an apostrophe throughout the stanza. The verses "that game that made you happy is over" can be interpreted in various ways: this "game" is a metaphor that refers to the way of life that she liked, the democracy that had ended or the revolutionary feeling that I was young then. At the beginning of the third stanza, what was said above is reiterated but arguing that the gardens were that time that she loved that it was over, and that she does not say anything about it because, according to our interpretation, it would be censored (as well as kidnapped) by the military, which did not allow any type of disagreement in any aspect. When saying: "there are no more walruses or turtles" there is a metaphor that serves to highlight the "variety" of governments that this country had: de facto military governments as opposed to democratic governments because it refers to the fact that Onganía is no longer in power (nicknamed "the walrus") or that these walruses are the military, and when saying turtle he refers to former president Arturo Illia (nicknamed "turtle"), a democratic president considered slow when making decisions, hence His nickname comes from besides having been a very honest president, perhaps too much for Argentina. Then, those "heads crushed by the same foot" that "play cricket under the moon" * are metaphors that refer to an entire country that is crushed by a single person (or institution) and its inhabitants repressed, censored, tortured and in some cases cases, missing. For this reason, the images of cricket, since this is a sport that is played in the grass, and that of "under the moon" transmit an atmosphere of a cemetery and refer to the disappearances that took place at night during the period of process. The following verse recreates the "square" thought of the military because it says: "we are in no man's land", up to here everything is normal since in that period there were many changes of political powers, which leads to the land not being from anyone, not even momentarily; but when she says "but it's mine," she takes a totally authoritarian stance because she suddenly says it's hers without saying a word to others who perhaps also want to rule this land. In the last three verses of this stanza, a paradox is first found when saying that the innocent are the culprits since they are two totally opposite concepts; there is also an intertextuality and a metaphor when saying: "the lordship says of him, the king of spades", intertextuality because the king of spades is a character in Caroll's text who is a clumsy, ignorant and incapable king; and metaphor because it refers to the president of the Military Junta, Jorge Rafael Videla, who in those times did not matter if one had done something good or bad, since that king of swords, that military junta was the one that decided what to do with the person judged; therefore, he says that the innocent are the guilty, the king of swords decided what was his fate. The last stanza begins with a metaphor of the mirror that represents reality, and explains the idea of ​​fear and self-censorship that was installed in society to reveal it, then there is an enumeration (“you will not have power, no lawyers, no witnesses”) that it fulfills the function of explaining the impotence of the people since they had no power over themselves. Later there is a metaphor, when saying "the witches" since it refers to López Rega, creator of the triple A and the author tells Alicia to be cautious and be careful because in the future these sinister characters could return, or could return to live these same things in the future. The next verse is the only one in which the idea of ​​hope is present when saying that we are "in everyone's land, in life" but the letter closes with an antithesis between hope and pessimism by stating that they are now in ruins and that this country was always created on other ruins, it also reflects the feeling of resignation that the people had about the present time they were living. Based on this poetry, it can be interpreted that that girl "Alicia" is nothing more and nothing less than the representation of the Argentine people since messages about the reality of Argentina in that period are implicitly developed throughout the song , always directed to Alicia, always directed towards the people since the idea was that society realize how it was living, that this so-called “Alicia” realize how the country was. Another very implicit idea that we find in the song is that, since Alice is a girl (both because of the Lewis Carroll story, and because of the name that has been chosen and because of the way in which she is called), she may be a metaphor that this is a country that needs to develop and grow, like what happens to a child.

[@agustinperezrosales5735]

React to “Desarma y Sangra” of Seru Giran

[@keysersoze874]

Excelente canción de Seru Giran !!!

[@Julianbc01]

Great great video!! You should react to "Desarma y Sangra" from Seru Giran. One of the most beautiful songs in argentinian music!!

[@sergiosimionato7962]

Thanks Robk again. Wonderful song from a unique band. Charly García wrote it parodying the military process at the end of the 70s, using metaphors with Alice in Wonderland and the military could not censor it. The music is wonderful and the first voice is Charly. hug!

[@estebanmoretti3323]

seru giran and sui generis, 2 of 3 first charly's bands means "without genre"... exactly what you are saying you feel hearing this guy

[@christianmiguel8794]

Hello my friend!!!! Seru Giran is for me the best argentinian Rock Band ever .... please react song “ Esperando Nacer “ ( studio version ) beatiful blues of this band .... thanks bro !!!!

[@elyzamudio6372]

Next "Cinema Verite"

[@hellygamboa2493]

Thank you for this reaction. I think you'll enjoy "La máquina de hacer pájaros", also with Charly García and Oscar Moro

[@licmarialaurarivas8137]

😍😍

[@zumb42]

HI Robk.You can react to an argentine band called CRUCIS, for the early's 70.

[@Mm-qc2bk]

Rob, without knowing it, you got into hot water with this, for this song IS NOT JUST ANY SONG. IT DESCRIBES THE HORROR OF THE MILITARY DICTATORSHIP IN LATE 70S AND 80S. AND IT MANAGED TO BE PLAYED ON THE RADIO WITHOUT THE VICIOUS AND GENOCIDE MILITARY EVEN KNOWING WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. It is a credit to Charly's and the others' ability to skip censorship in a mastery way. Lyrics: Opening: Who knows, Alice, this country was not made just because. You want to leave, get out, but you stay, or where else would you go? And it's that here.... the tongue-twister actually twists your tongue, (torture and "confessions") the murderer actually murders you , and it's too much for you. It's the end of the game that made you happy (freedom, democracy)-. Heartbeat: THIS PART HAS A HEARTBEAT TO CONVEY THE TERROR OF THE NIGHT OF DICTATORSHIP . Don't tell what you saw in the gardens, the dream is over . There are no more walruses or turtles (reference to a dictator from another dictatorship, Juan Carlos Onganía, called the walrus, and democratic president before Perón , Arturo Illia, called the turtle by antidemocratic media) , A river of heads crushed by the same foot play cricket under the moon . We're in nobody's land, but it's mine. THE INNOCENTS ARE THE CULPRITS, SAYS HIS HONOR, the King of Swords (in Spanish cards) . Don't say what you saw behind that looking glass, you won't have any rights, nor lawyers, nor witnessess . Light up the chandeliers for the wizards are planning to return to blur our way (the wizard was horrible José López Rega a creepy and bizarre astrologist who managed to be had as Perón's widow Isabel Perón "advisor" or puppeteer a right wing peronist who planned to kill all left wing peronists and formed the AAA, Anticommunist Argentinian Alliance who put bombs in cars and shot any left-wing peronist from socialist groups, after that the military coup impulsed by USA was given against isabel Perón to start a 30,000 massacre of leftist groups or just anybody who opposed the dictatorship, sending hundreds of artists, actors, singers, painters, journalists, radio presenters, and many others, to exile in Europe and Mexico. ) We're in the land of all, we're in life. On the past and on the future, ruins over ruins, dear Alice. Rocky part to get out of the heartbeat terror atmosphere Outro: Who knows Alice , this country was not made just because , you want to leave, to get out, but where else would you be going? And it's that here.... the tongue-twister twists your tongue, the murderer murders you, and it's too much for you. Choir: It's the end / It's the end of that / It's the end of that game that made you happy

SERU GIRAN RULES

[@giselarigone666]

A work of art!

[@leandroamatti7837]

Muy bueno Robk, muchas gracias y gran grupo fueron los Seru giran!, abrazos!

[@Micheltarra]

Great Reaction Robk !!! Great band !!!

[@polkanietzsche5016]

That translation doesn't do justice to the original lyrics. Great reaction btw!

[@alext.1459]

Listen to "Pepperina" Rob....Seru Giran were trully the Argentinian Beatles!! Cheers from Chile!

[@kurisou4150]

I think more that they were the true Argentinian Genesis

[@alext.1459]

@@kurisou4150 very true....

[@jukeboxrockmusic4816]

Deberías reaccionar a toda la discografía de Charly. Arrancando por Sui Generis, La máquina de hacer pájaros, Serú Girán y toda la discografía de Charly en solitario.

[@pedrodiezcansecomunoz9676]

"Wonderland" (from Lewis Carroll's Alice) is translated to Spanish as "el País de las Maravillas". Then, "Alicia en el País de las Maravillas". But the song is entitled "Canción de Alicia en el país", which only means "Alice in the land" or "in the country". What land? Argentina in the 70s and early 80s, of course, with corrupt politicians and generals, leftist terrorists and fear.

[@polkanietzsche5016]

Or Alice in no Wonderland.

[@pedrodiezcansecomunoz9676]

@@polkanietzsche5016 , yes, but the pun with the Spanish translation would be lost.

[@lalibe]

Es sobre la dictadura. Nada que ver lo que decis man.

[@JoseAguilar-dy2vh]

El nombre de Charly es Carlos Alberto García Moreno

[@nicolasvalentini9424]

A los jovenes de ayer - seru giran

[@fatimamoore8256]

this song is about the militar dictatorship here in argentina, its a really relevatn song for our history

[@agustinherrera9415]

Hey man, I recommend you Raul Carnota. He's not very famous but does like a mixture of argentinian folk music with more rock or jazzy styles. "Pecado de juventud" is a great song from him.

[@jorgeeeep]

Grande Robk. Retrato de la dictadura militar 1976/1983

[@elyzamudio6372]

No solo de la dictadura, "el brujo" es Lopez Rega...

[@jorgeeeep]

@@elyzamudio6372 Sí pero dice "enciende los candiles que los brujos piensan en volver", habla de un período posterior al de López Rega. Igualmente la canción refiere a la historia reciente de ese momento, porque morsa le decían a Onganía y Tortuga a Illia

[@elyzamudio6372]

@@jorgeeeep habla de la dictadura, pero tambien de antes de ongania y lo de los camdiles tamien habla de "los brujos piensan en volver"... O sea, todos sueltos, milicos y terroristas, de estado y de los otros, es todo un concepto de epoca

[@alejandromoran7801]

Awesome Charly and Robk

[@lucaprodan854]

Geniooooo

[@carlosdanielscala8605]

Bien gracias Evitaeterna.

[@marinasperatti8002]

Si te gusta Charly tenés que escuchar LA MÁQUINA DE HACER PAJAROS

[@jukeboxrockmusic4816]

SI, yo le dije lo mismo. jee

[@theboywithathorninhisside.4179]

#CreepySanta

[@marinasperatti8002]

Esta canción se refiere casi x completo a la dictadura militar mas sangrienta de nuestra historia. Fue grabado en el 1978

[@claudiomoreira3026]

se grabo antes que crearan Seru Giran? :)

[@sergioarancibia2102]

Alice un Wonderland is about the dirty war in Argentina 1976-1983

[@flores8701]

Guerra no. Genocidio ,dictadura militar. Acá y en toda Latinoamérica.

[@emilianocaminos1618]

epico

[@coquibolso]

react to hereford, la corona del rey!

[@Mm-qc2bk]

Song of Alice in the Country, is a political song against the military dictatorship who killed 30,000 people in the late 70s and 80s after popular Perón and Isabel Perón's government was given a coup d'etat. Iis a parody of Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland in a terrible time of State terror were you had no justice, 20 , 25, year old people were taken out of their houses because they were against the dictatorship, tortured in 500 clandestine concentration camps, some of them with 2,500 illegal clandestine prisoners, pregnant women being taken their babies and giving them to military officer's families. Charly , David, Pedro and Oscar managed to avoid censorship because militaries did not understand metaphores, otherwise they would have had had to go to exile as many other artists like Mercedes Sosa, Víctor Heredia and so on. At the time, there weree many other military dictatorships in Latin America, all of them sponsored and financed by the United States , they instructed the militaris how to torture, rob houses, disappear people and put them in extermination camps. Imperialism exists dude and its against you. Serú Girán managed to say all theysaid in the face of these bastards

[@claudiomoreira3026]

Escribio sobre la dictadura antes que existiera? Segun explico el mismo Charly que la escribio antes. Y eso de que los militares no entendian las metaforas es un mito que ya cansa, esos hdp te hacian percha por cosas menores a esto, no eran ningunos tarados, no confundamos a la gente que esta descubriendo a Charly con datos erroneos.

[@antroponauta]

Covers in symphonic version of "Music to fly" Canción de Alicia en el país - Música para volar - Charly García kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqLah6Ovl6eXkLM La grasa de las capitales - Musica para volar - Charly García kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKTRpIN-psp5bas

[@jabu003]

Some day Manal / La pesada del rock / Arco Iris / Aquelarre ?

[@feliperamirez6811]

Plis watch cinema verite

[@diegoshevek5927]

Hi Robk, I've another argentinian rock band that I think you haven't reacted to, the band name is "Ciro y los Persas" and this song is called "Antes y después", the performance was live in 2014: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2bImHp5Z52Cmbs

[@sergiobruno5157]

Iban a venir los comentarios acerca de : Charly escribió esta canción por el proceso blablabla . 30 años después Charly cuenta ...Esta canción la escribí cuando tenía 12 años ( por ej . Desarma y Sangra , tambien según el mito pelotudo fue escrita contra el fuckin proceso ) y tira todo el mito a la mierda porque a los 12 de Charly Videla todavía era soldado raso . Basta muchachos , ya cansan

[@samujack39]

Creer que Charly escribió esto de casualidad es un poco necio. El mismo Aznar contó que García se la tuvo que explicar. Que la tortuga era Ilia y la morsa era Ongania. Es todo bastante transparente una clase de historia en 4 minutos. Después las analogías lógicas. La música era para una obra de teatro infantil y hay un video perdido donde se ve parte de la canción usada en 1975. Charly hace mucho eso de reciclar y citarse. Pero la cosa política estaba. Después lo que él invente ya es otro tema como Los dinosaurios. Pero es cierto que no es Leon Gieco. Me parece que Garcia se conforma con haber dicho las cosas cuando era peligroso decirlas y después pasó a otros temas.

[@julianbeltran4200]

@@samujack39 solo vengo a decir que mi bisabuela era de apellido Bruno y mi bisabuelo de apellido Bernárdez. Qué linda casualidad jajaja.

[@sergiobruno5157]

@@julianbeltran4200 jajaja !!! El papá de una compañera de mí hija se llama idéntico que yo de nombre , segundo nombre y apellido 🤣🤣🤣🤦

[@sergiobruno5157]

@@samujack39 alguna vez el gordo Lanata le dijo a Charly que se " autocopiaba " y Charly lo trato de pelotudo . Los dos tienen razón

[@rotundo6969]

la haya escrito cuando la haya escrito (Me refiero a Alicia) su letra retrata muy bien lo que es una dictadura.

[@conjurox3597]

No sé que es lo que tomás mientras escuchás la canción, pero cuando reacciones a música argentina deberías tomarte unos buenos mates!...jajajaja!!!

[@nehuenserafin6874]

Ohh you could listen to "Gustavo Cerati-Sal" its from his solist disc, its wonderfull

[@Will-cm1uw]

You should react to juice wrld fire in the booth freestyle or juice wrld freestyle on Eminem beats for a hour 🙏🏼🤟🏼

[@guille3874]

Hi, reaction plis tight as (jhon lennon)

[@nanom]

Hi Rob, listen this song "kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZS7e6yHh91rkNU" (Abel Pintos and Gustavo Cordera). You won't regreat!!!. Greatings from Argentina.

[@gabrielpena1778]

A los ingleses le interesarán nuestras "reacciones"?

[@lysandroabelcher2592]

A muchos ingleses, sí. En cambio a la mayor parte de los y4nkis, no. Idem por todos los argentinos en Miami.

[@anaelreiki4699]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/faHRpp59jrWcis0 you have to hear this Rob. Ratones Paranoicos ... Esto es Argentina !!!!