Serbo-Bulgarian relations explained

[@bacebulgarianmapper1186]

Yeah, pretty objective. You probably got very intelligent (and also probably very attractive) Bulgarians to help you with the video

[@AlexAhmedov]

Баце/ Bace Based

[@burgundygenevian1879]

Hi bace

[@gaja9092]

Hahaahhahaha

[@theplutonimus]

Where did you come from, where did you go Where did come from Bace Bulagarian Mapper

[@brm5844]

Thank you Bace, very cool

[@balkanlad5579]

Great video! I think you did a really good job at showing both perspectives. Love Serbia from Bulgaria!

[@nocomment5705]

Rascia region(Рашка), Kosovo(Косово и Метохија) and Montenegro(Црна Гора и Брда) are actually considered "Old Serbia". The southern borders of "Old Serbia" aren't exactly defined, so Macedonia is perhaps only partially considered "Old Serbia". Their language/dialect is closer to Bulgarian than Serbian, and their Church territory has not been canonically part of Serbian Church(SOC) and the Pec Patriarchy. So, IMO Bosnians(and Herzegovinians) and Montenegrins are Serbs, while Macedonians are more Bulgarians than Serbs. That being said, The guilt for the 1885 war is completely Serbian,and it was a "Stab in the Back", which is something which Serbs ironically accuse Bulgarians for in 1913 and 1915(which it was). However the guilt For the 1913(2nd Balkan War) is on the Bulgarian side. The failed to support Serbia against the Austrian ultimatum to leave would-be Albania, hence Serbia didn't leave most of Macedonia to them as it had obliged under the "Serbo-Bulgarians Friendship Treaty". en.wikisource.org/wiki/Treaty_Of_Friendship_And_Alliance_Between_Bulgaria_And_Serbia

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

Thank you very much

[@dimitrijeilic1362]

@@nocomment5705 I agree with everything you said 🇷🇸❤️🇧🇬

[@kosovoisserbia8937]

@@nocomment5705 the guilt for 1885 war is on Franz Joseph and his vasel king Milan. Serbia was not independent during obrenović dinasty because of strong Austrian influence and Austrian treats of destroying county if we don't listen to them .

[@zorandjipanov6492]

поздрави от Сърбия

[@rumenoff974]

Just to clarify one thing. During WW2 it wasn't a "final act of desperation", but rather pressure by Nazi Germany Forcing Tsar Boris to join the Axis and not get the country crushed by the wehrmacht. Anyways, great video! I hope our peopel will one day learn that just because our ancestors hated eachother dosen't mean we should continue thier hatred to modern times and should leave their problems where they belong, in the past. love to Serbia from Bugaria. желим ти леп дан!

[@redbearz189]

Agree with this 👍🏻

[@redbearz189]

@Random forget pass and think about future 😅😂

[@0xe849]

​@Random , lul and how exactly bulgarians wanted to exterminate the Jews, when exactly the locals, church and some politics saved them?

[@SugarBlood15]

But they didnt really hate each other. They were at war, yes, but from the days of Serbian empire and Bulgarian Empire our royal families married each other and lived beside each other. Even today, the bones of Holy King Milutin Nemanjic rest in a church in Sofia ( Crkva St. Nedelje ), where they were brought from Kosovo to save them from Ottoman destruction.

[@Dzontra27]

Хвала брате 🇷🇸🇧🇬

[@UnnecessarySerb]

As a Serb who lives in Bulgaria, this is spot on! Many of my Bulgarian friends mention a lot about the Bulgarian perspective, and I answer with the Serbian perspective! The conflict between the nations is petty indeed, and to be honest, both countries exhausted each other to their demise.

[@minjajovanovic6501]

Love your vids

[@radnikswarehouse4093]

ok Bulgarian

[@UnnecessarySerb]

@@radnikswarehouse4093 You mean mongol? Bulgarians bout to tear me apart in the comments: its a joke, chill.

[@minjajovanovic6501]

@@UnnecessarySerb Wow, you actually replied to him

[@UnnecessarySerb]

@@minjajovanovic6501 😎

[@МладиГангстер]

Respect to Bulgaria from Serbia! 🇷🇸🇧🇬

[@GambitGenius]

ОПППА млади гангстер! ја исто волим Бугарску из Србије!

[@ems7623]

I like that your username is "gangster" in cyrillic.

[@Smartness_itself]

🇧🇬🤝🇷🇸

[@СандоКан-ц5к]

hvala brato

[@gaja9092]

Relations might have been tough in the past but nowadays we in Serbia love Bulgaria and our countries are friendly.

[@M25Republic]

@@lazarnikolic8257 What do you need Kosovo for if the Kosovars themselves don't wanna be part of Serbia. Do you want non-stop ethnic troubles in you country? Forget about it and move on. Simple.

[@M25Republic]

@@lazarnikolic8257 Up to you guys. I live in the UK. UK voted to leave the EU and the country has left. What is the difference now? None.

[@M25Republic]

@@gaja9092 Bulgaria doesn't need Macedonia. That is just not true. Bulgaria does not want it's own history being stolen and falsified by North Macedonia. That is all.

[@thegreatpretenderorale9965]

@@gaja9092 please dont compare Macedonia to Kosovo from a Serb perspective, what are you 5 y/o even Bulgarian will laugh on you.

[@СрбјеХристоврадујесесмрти]

@Von Klinkerhoffen bulgarians are turkic tatar tribe from asia, thats why everything slavic about bulgaria isnt actually bulgarian...

[@darkoratic2339]

Personally I'm for an absolute reconciliation between Serbs and Bulgarians same goes for Greeks and Bulgarians

[@outerspace7391]

Bulgarians and Greeks are already cool now. They have united because of Turkey and North Macedonia being their enemies.

[@georgios_5342]

We've been through a lot, and the Bulgarians were very cruel in Northern Greece (Macedonia and Thrace) especially in WW2, but king Constantine was also cruel to the Bulgarians in the 2nd Balkan War and I'm very sorry for that. King Constantine was bad and ineffective for Greece too actually, instead of trying to beat countries in war he did war crimes to force them to surrender. He was also very authoritarian and wouldn't join the Entente to liberate Greeks from Turkey because he wanted to protect his position more than actually doing good for the Greeks. As he ruled with terror in Greece, he exerted the same attitude to Bulgaria in our war and for that I'm very sorry. Now we are actually pretty peaceful and friendly, I'd back Bulgaria in anything they may need and I also have a Bulgarian friend here. Здравей my friend 🇬🇷🤝🇧🇬

[@outerspace7391]

@@georgios_5342 I'm not a fan of the Greek royal family, but his decision to keep Greece out of the great war was not something bad. The prime minister was obsessed to please the allies, allowed British troops land in northern Greece, violated Greek neutrality and later his cult personality caused a schism, almost brought a Civil War. If that's not enough, when he got what he wanted and drove Greece in WW1, he mishandled the invasion of Anatolia marking a huge humanitarian crisis regarding the Greek refugees. At this point I need to credit the fact that the Monarchist faction contributed to this equally, but we should also remember that the Anatolian Greek refugees (who sided with the Liberal Party, the prime ministers' faction, since they saw the King responsible for all this) were betrayed when this prime minister wished for Mustafa Kemal to be given the Nobel peace prize. He also signed a lot of treaties with Turkey that were either never implemented or just unjust to the Greek side. As a result, the Liberal Party never won elections again, looking to military coups as an alternative to take over power. Fortunately the 4th of August coup happened later on, finally establishing some prosperity to the exhausted country.

[@outerspace7391]

@@georgios_5342 Regarding the "he was very authoritarian, he didn't want to let Greece join Entente and liberate the Greeks" statement, I've got to say how wrong it is. The "Antivenizelist" faction, as it was apparently called, supported the idea of annexing the territories opportunistically, without the danger of joining either side of the war and losing. And besides, what kind of liberation does the pro-allied faction believes in? Causing a humanitarian crisis and selling the Anatolian Greeks for the sake of "establishing an undisputed border with Turkey"? Do I also have to point out the Prime Minister's idea that "Pontus is way too distant, give it to the Armenians"

[@georgios_5342]

@@outerspace7391 bruh wtf. Everything other than the 4th of August Metaxas regime is skewed. Greece had very much to win from joining the right side in the war, for example Cyprus, Thrace and Anatolia. Turkey was genociding the Greeks is Asia Minor and the king had no problem because all he cared about was his rule, whether that was to be over a small or great Greece was of little importance. What you call "cult of personality" is to others Greek national self determination and freedom. Venizelos policy expanded the rule of Greece to more than twice the size of the earlier state and was going to quadruple it. But, as great leader Metaxas himself said, the only way Greece could have beaten Turkey was to have landed troops in Anatolia during the conflict of the war, which would force Britain and France to actually commit their forces there and not let Greece down. True, Venizelos did many wrong things when it comes to economic policy and later saying Kemal should earn nobel 🤢. But he was indeed the lesser of two evils and the only one at that point that was committed to not let the Megali Idea die. If Greece had joined the war early, it would now own Northern Epirus and Cyprus at least. I'm not saying Venizelos was all good, he made many mistakes, but Constantine was very but and egoistic. Indeed, when the Great Asia Minor Catastrophe was happening, Constantine said "I'd better see them all (the Greek refugees) drown into the sea than to have them come here and force me out of power".

[@aleksandar_srb]

Well. As a Serb. I can say that im gaining lot of simpathy toward Bulgaria and Bulgarians. Such a beautyfull people and country. We had rought past and we should shake hands and forgive each other what happened in the past. There's 0 reasson for conflict and billion reassons to live together in the peace and love. And try hardest to fight for our better futture.

[@thadayu5639]

Нажалост, националисти са обе стране и даље хушкају Србе и Бугаре. Погледај само шта ради националистички канал Србија Глобал - својата не само Македонију него и Западну Бугарску и инсистира само на бугарским злочинима па још их и преувеличава вишеструко негирајући притом српске злочине (а треба да будемо реални и да схватимо да су и неки несавесни српски официри чинили злочине над бугарским заробљеницима, о томе постоје документи). Имаш тамо коментаре људи који су изузетно антибугарски настројени. Исто важи и за интернет форум бугарских националиста који је нажалост пун мржње према Србима. Ти националистички медији само подгрејавају мржњу негирајући све оно добро што су Срби и Бугари урадили један другом. Зашто нико не каже о неким бугарским официрима који су у ПСР бринули о српским заробљеницима као о својој деци? Зашто бугарски националисти ћуте о владики Доситеју који је послао новчану помоћ Софији кад је била погођена земљотресом 1927.? Све то треба да се промени и да се пуно више говори о добрим стварима. Познато је да српски и бугарски студенти кад се нађу у иностранству, труде се да говоре свако на свом језику и схватају колико су слични језици а и народни обичаји и менталитет.

[@slavzahariev3901]

Wholeheartedly agree! We have so much in common! It is time for reconciliation.

[@aleksandarstoichev5463]

We both know this is never going to happen

[@aceshigh6085]

Нашата култура и начин на мислене е много всохдна

[@acidicvenom142]

@@aleksandarstoichev5463 oh actually shut the fuck up hater, it will happen idiot

[@vladodobleja748]

As a Romanian I like both Bulgarians and Serbs equally!

[@kristijanfranjoivancic6769]

Agree with Bulgaria ! How about the ROMANIANS IN TIMOC (not Timok !) and the priest of Malaința (not Malajnica) ? Have you heard about them ?

[@radicalcentrist4990]

I used to think the same but now I prefer bulgarians because serbs don't give equal rights to the romanian minorities. They don't even recognize them as romanians. The positive thing about Serbia is that we never had beef with them but I can't say that we are very close either. We have much better relations with Bulgaria, probably the best relations.

[@ЛилияИларионова-ф3р]

@@radicalcentrist4990, Romania is definitely our best neighbor now. Love from Bulgaria ❤️❤️❤️

[@teosandev6116]

Yes I imagine you would; forgive me though, for being wary of your roguelike approach. I just don't wish for my last words to be "they came from...behind". Our Serbian brothers should relax though, I assure them, you Romanians have nothing but the most honorable intentions...

[@ZENZELEAN]

@@radicalcentrist4990i mean we were one country more than 300 years 🇧🇬❤🇷🇴

[@roxysponge3447]

We've got a better chance of survival if we work together. If we stay together we survive.

[@gustavo_fernandez227]

Balkan is shit , poor weak countries

[@roxysponge3447]

@@gustavo_fernandez227 it's because they are divided by elite. They need to unite like Yugoslavia. Watch the weight of the chains. And you will understand who is keeping Balkan people poor.

[@robotube7361]

Balkans is kept divided ON PURPOSE. This is the vision of the great powers + Russia. A Balkan super state would be with some 50 million people and a major factor not just in Europe but also in the world. All trading routes from Africa and Asia to Western Europe and Russia pass through the Balkans. We are being divided so there wont be a strong country here which will have its own interests and influence. The century we living now is called the GErman and American wet dream where they keep Russia and the Slavs miserable and poor. This situation is deliberate. This is not some coincidence. We were all sistematicaly brainwashed and kept down like the black people were kept down in US. We, the slavs were called untermench, drunks, lazy etc stripped from out dignity. We all watched how Serbia was punished from the side in 1999 and didnt react. We were kept poor on purpose and only money has been given to criminals, nationalists and other braindead people who rule over us now. Everything is perverted. the corrupt and the mafia rule with our countries . There is no justice, no law no sense of security. All these criminals were put in power by the West so they can keep us down with recketeering, twisting religion and ethno nationalism. The best of us already left the region for the west and nobody every returns back.

[@Zeeko76]

@@robotube7361 given what NATO did to Yugoslavia after the iron curtain fell, what you say is 100% right. But you also have to account for socialism, socialism ruined your economy and that was the basis for the west to ruin you geostrategically. But people are too blind to see that and if there is no political will to change that, the road to a better future will be much longer.

[@Rai-Bulgaria]

@@roxysponge3447 If Bulgaria had joined Yugo, there would have been a war in Bulgaria in the 90s.

[@stanislavivanov8056]

Love for Serbia ❤️🇧🇬🇷🇸 my wife is from Kragujevac and I am from Dobrich (Black Sea). 🏋️‍♂️

[@beadsman13]

Града на мечтите. Сигурно не живееш в Добрич?

[@Nista357]

Hello brother from Kragujevac!

[@HeroManNick132]

@@beadsman13 Градът на мечтите*

[@beadsman13]

@@HeroManNick132 Приемам критиката. Когато ме мързи използвам автоматичното попълване и не поправям.

[@synthwavemonke9433]

Most of the stuff here is impartial and objective but there were still a few hiccups along the way. The San Stefano borders of Bulgaria were very far from an "Giant national-ethnostate". There were people demanding that huge chunks of Serbia and Romania plus the entirety of thrace should also be added. It certainly wasn't an insane ultra-nationalist vision. There was also an astounding lack information regarding the reason why Bulgaria started the second Balkan war. There is a lot more to it than saying that "Bulgaria wasn't satisfied with the negotiated borders" Another minor inaccuracy can be found in the way that Bulgaria's attitude towards Serbia was presented. The exact monument shown in the video was not a symbol of the "Serbian backstabbing and aggression" but of a unneeded brotherly war caused by their king which is also the attitude that was suggested we should have. The part about Serbia's help during the siege of Edirne was overemphasized, Bulgarian forces did more than the majority of the fighting there Before entering the central powers Bulgaria was wooed by both them and the Entente. The offer made by the allies would have satisfied the so called "ultra nationalist vision" of the San Stefano borders. The total Bulgarian land mass would have been comparable to it. Bulgaria's entry into the Axis wasn't so much of a "desperate last attempt to achieve greater Bulgaria" but the result of overwhelming pressure from Germany. Bulgaria would certainly have been invaded by the axis and a much more brutal fascist regime would have deported all of Bulgaria's jews and terrorized the newly annexed territories with a stronger fist than what actually happened There should have been a lot more said about the Communist regime post WW2 being pretty much forced to accept pro-Yugoslavian vision regarding the Macedonian question. Overall, the proposed solution at the end was exactly what both of our nations should be striving towards

[@bgn2022]

@Kafa kafica No, it wasn't. Russia had signed 2 treaties before 1878 with Great Brittain (the London protocol) and with Austro-Hungary (Reichstatd agreement) in which all parties agree that there will not be created a big state on the Balkans.

[@dapurplepupchoco4328]

Love Serbia from your fellow slavic neighbor 🇧🇬❤🇷🇸

[@zdsndhzds2992]

Turks

[@bakeee1453]

@Cici P To je ilirski simbol kakvi turski 😂😂😂

[@martinwich8788]

@@zdsndhzds2992 Wanna- be Germans, even Germans don’t like you

[@DaliHas]

Serbs and Bulgars will always be neighbours. But as a Serb I can tell you we have so many similarities it’s amazing. Can easily be one United country but there are too many little dumb nationalists on both sides so can’t see happening. Should learn more about each other.

[@daz7122]

Should look this guy up Knez Srba Zaharija Pribislavljević. He ties in with Serb Bulgarian history.

[@mrazimusheta1899]

@@daz7122 Actually there is more people tied in both histories. Serbian Kralji Marko is also celebratet in bulgaria.

[@123skillax]

I wouldn’t say one country but a union would be nice

[@nikolainikolov4620]

That's right, it's not just the dumb nationalists on both sides that are the problem. Many people from Bulgaria and Serbia after the liberation wanted to be in one country Balkan Federation, but the great powers will not allow it

[@dukov_music]

Поздрав из Бугарске. Свака ти част 😊

[@skamazbg5675]

Ha a** liking function. This is so true!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂 Nice one 👍👍👍👍👍👍 Luckily for us Bulgarians the pumpkin fell from power this April. I wish Vuchich falls as well. Best wishes from Bulgaria ☦️🇧🇬♥️🇷🇸☦️

[@brm5844]

Bro Bojko is still deffinetally in power, the parties are just having a circus rn

[@skamazbg5675]

@@brm5844 сега като Радев организира изборите вече няма да има заплашвани компании и предприятия,няма гласоподаватели от Факултета и Люлин,няма лъжливо броене където един-два от 10 гласа се пропуска.

[@brm5844]

@@skamazbg5675 Брат Радев е същата маймуна като другите, не им се хващай, изборите са преебани. Остана само немислимата опция и никой не иска да си го признае.

[@skamazbg5675]

@@brm5844 Какъвто и да е Радев той е анти Бойко. Най-важното е сега е Бойко да падне да има място за дишане а после да му мислим на следващия.

[@markosamardzic8718]

Here is something for Serbians and our neighbours Bulgarians: watch this for Macedonia, today N. Macedonia: * kzbin.info/www/bejne/imqncqiti8aAgZY * 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqfRoHito6ehr6M 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZKaYmiKnph_ZpY 3. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3S2p6efa6yhmbM (brsjaci and mijaci) 4. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6bVZHaAaJyhoMk (shops - shopi) 5. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJi1qqaAbpJ7g5Y (serbs from Gallipoli) 6. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooXaoGiwbtBkp6c (thracia) *7. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmeQi55sfZd0eMk (about language) this is for Greece (Hellas), without subtitle: three episodes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3nViYKQZ7KWZ8k

[@stefanpanayotov3857]

Greetings from Bulgaria Brothers !!!!! despite past, common blood goes through our veins that cant be washed away ! Pozdravi ! SLAVIC POWER !!!

[@HeroManNick132]

Какви братя сме?

[@stefanpanayotov3857]

@@HeroManNick132 Na ei takiva Tikva

[@HeroManNick132]

@@stefanpanayotov3857 Да беше на кирилица...

[@КГБ1922]

@@HeroManNick132 нямаш ли си работа ле майка ти да еба. Ревеш за едни коментари от 2 години, даже не помним контекста

[@HeroManNick132]

@@КГБ1922 Това твоят алт ли е?

[@spetsnazspartan4794]

No more brother wars! Much love to Serbia from Bulgaria

[@milija1378]

Love to bulgaria from serbia

[@AGAPE12L]

🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸

[@Sithlordxxxx]

I see Bulgarians as friends

[@sidimightbe]

But you guys are tartars and we’re not turkic at all

[@basic7593]

@@sidimightbe your land was ours so chill out

[@tasosltss1988]

As a Greek, although we adore Serbia and Serbians, we have always been seeing throughout modern history the population of Northern Macedonia as ethnically Bulgarian. Greetings to both sides!!

[@skamazbg5675]

Just as the Cyprus population is greek.

[@tasosltss1988]

@@skamazbg5675 Exactly.

[@АлександарСергеј]

I am Serb and i don't recongnize Macedonians as a nation... I think Nord Macedonia should be split between Serbia and Bulgaria. All to the right of Vardar river to the Bulgarians and all to the left of Vardar river to the Serbs.

[@skamazbg5675]

@@АлександарСергеј although i am supporting any idea of spliting Macedonia a far larger precentige of the population will go to serbia and the towns of Ohrid,Prilep and Bitolia which hold a huge significance to Bulgaria will be left in Serbia. Figure out another way to split it.

[@АлександарСергеј]

@@skamazbg5675 Never satisfied... I would like to split Macedonia with Bulgaria not because i think we own you something, because we don't, but as a friendly gesture of good will so we can put our shit aside... It's not negotiable! On second thought maybe you can just keep all of macedonian population for yourselfs and we just take the territory.

[@mrk7675]

Great video, I think this is 100% accurate. Much love to brotherly Serbia from Bulgaria.

[@МладиГангстер]

🇷🇸🇧🇬

[@KB-cq4cy]

Pretty accurate representation of history seen from both sides which is quite a rarity in the Balkans. Greetings from Bulgaria! We love Serbia, pljeskavici and Mile Kitic.

[@brm5844]

Really good video, I like your nuetral take on the video even tho I must say for myself that, maybe because of bias, maybe because of the ammount of hours i've spent sleepless over the macedonian question I have a more pro-bulgarian stance on this issue I really enjoyed how you presented both sides without showing sympathy for either and you as always consistent message of Balkan unity. Serbia and Bulgaria should live together as brothers and forget about the past! Дай им бай Сербиан Мапингъ

[@theriseofnikas]

if we spllited N.Mac. on half like we had chance, never Macedonians would egsist as a nation..😀Bulgaria and Serbia would be bigger in territory, and adittional million more people more would have.

[@Kristiano100]

@@theriseofnikas and how do you think the people living there would feel? Do you think they'd be happy? No, obviously not, this isn't the 19th century anymore where countries carve up nations to suit their ultranationalistic ideals, start thinking realistically.

[@ЙованДобройевичь]

Don't worry my man As a Serb, i also feel more pro Bulgarian for the macedonian split Like, i think it would be nice if Serbs claimed Skopje, since it's on our borders, while the rest of it goes to you, and if possible, also giving everything that Albanians took in 1912, to you ass well, basically the whole Ohrid lake

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

Thqnk you very much for the support and kind words mate. It's most important that we stay honest. Cheers!

[@thadayu5639]

@@ЙованДобройевичь Yes, we must be real, and asknowledge that 90% of Macedonians speak Bulgarian and that Macedonian intellectuals wanted Macedonia to be part of Bulgaria....

[@kaloqnmarinov7759]

the Second Balkan War (also called war-between-allies) is really well summarized by the memorial of it at 5:48 and the Bulgarian poet Ivan Vazov's poem "В окопа" ("In the trenches"): Кървавият бой престана, мракът нощни наближи. Паднал българин в окопа там до сърбина лежи. Един други се убили; куршум щику дал ответ. Гаснат сили, скоро двама ще оставят белий свет. - Брачо - сърбинът изпъшка, - гаче те познавам аз? - Аз съм, Йово, добра среща, Господ пак събира нас. Жал ми е за теб, сюрмахо, имаш дребна челяд ти! - Фала, брачо... Памет тъмна... - Кой си, я ме подсети, дека с тебе се видяхме? - Във Алексинацкий бой - турска кръв там проливахме... - Петко! Ти си? Брачо мой, -опрощавай... Лепо помня, без теб тамо аз бях леш. Майка ми за твойто здраве често палила е свещ... - Сполай, Йово... Няма нужда, ти по-харно отплати!... Ний избихме се кат псета, господ нека ни прости. - Брачо! - Йово, аз умирам... Огън, жажда! Ох, горйъ! - На водица в манерката, пийни, брат. И аз ще мръ. - Сполай, Йово... па прощавай, свърших!... Моят гроб е тук! - Петко! И аз с тебе брачо: ще заспим един до друг! Мръкна. Въз полето бойно падна нощната мъгла; пад мъглата спят спокойно хладни, кървави тела. Translation: The bloody fight ceased, the night darkness approached. Fallen Bulgarian in the trenches lies beside the Serb. Killed each-other, bullet retaliated bayonette. Spirits fading. Soon both will leave this world. - Brother - the Serb groaned - do I feel I know you? - It's me, Yovo, glad to meet you, God intertwined our paths again. I feel sorry for you, brother, you have little kids. - Thank you, brother... My memory is dim... Who are you, remind me, where have we met? - At the fight for Aleksinac We were spilling Turkish blood... - Petko, Is it you? My brother, forgive me... I remember well, you saved my life there. My mother lights a candle for your wellbeing often... - Tahank you, Yovo, there's no need you repayed me better!... We killed each-other like dogs may God forgive us. - Brother! - Yovo, I am dying... Fire, thirst! Oh, I'm burning! - Here, some water in my flask, drink some, brother, I am dying too. - Thank you, Yovo... and forgive me, I am finished!... My grave is here! - Petko, me with you, brother; we will fall asleep together! Night fell. Dark fog embraced the battlefield; Under it are sleeping peacefully cold, bloody bodies. Sorry for my poetic incapability in translation, I tried my best.

[@guperman8249]

i wish we the balkans could finally unite and put an end to our distinctions. We could learn so much from each other but we keep fighting and hating each other with no end. Amazing work from Greece.

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

Thank you very much mate. And yes, that's exacty what we should be striving towards

[@Wolverine-ky9gk]

As long as nationalism exists their will never be a united Balkan.

[@dannzelenin1415]

We can never end our differences because we have no similarities to begin with. Bulgaria and Greece have no linguistic, cultural , genetic and civilizational similarities same goes for Greece and Croatia, Romania and etc Apart from being Orthodox and eating pork on Christmas what exactly unites us and makes Stavros , Adrian and Ivan similar ??

[@lewissnow8031]

@@dannzelenin1415 You're very wrong- Balkan nations have very similar cultures and traditions. They were all influenced by the byzantine and then ottoman empires, who left an imprint on them. Look at the food, traditional music, and dances, and festivals we have, they're all very similar. Even the languages have some similarities. They are in different language families, yes, but from coexisting for centuries, they have been getting closer and closer. Look up the "balkan sprachbund", if you wanna learn more about that. Also, not to mention that pretty much all places in the balkans were very multi-ethnic. There never were clear borders between the different ethnicites and there were a lot of areas where many different ethnicities lived together. They only really became seperated through violent ethnic cleansing and "population exchanges" after the nation states were created. Examples include macedonia, thrace, kosovo, etc.

[@dannzelenin1415]

lewis snow I disagree. Bulgarian culture tho was inspired by byzantine was basically self made. With our own unique alphabet, church language, titles, names and etc. Everyone has direct inspiration from Roman Empire ofc. This dosnt mean anything. We are still different religiously, linguistically witch is enough. The ottomans didn't influence shit however. They were are backwards Empire who for 4 centuries build 3 mosques and 5 baths and nothing more. One could argue that it was the Balkans who influenced the turks

[@slavzahariev3901]

Overall balanced but.... Before First Balkan war Macedonia were divided in the Bulgarian-Serb treaty into two zones. Undisputed which should have be Bulgraian and disputed which shloul have been decided later together with Russian arbitration. Serbs did not withdraw from the undisputed zone that trigger all the tragedies afterwards. Though I understand that you have been cut from the sea from Austria-Hungary and you seeked territorial compensation.

[@mcsroom8930]

exactly + he ignored how there weer even some fights betwin serbians and bulgarians there just bc of this

[@georgios_5342]

Well, sums up Greek-Bulgarian relations pretty well too actually. We've been through a lot, and the Bulgarians were very cruel in Northern Greece (Macedonia and Thrace) especially in WW2, but king Constantine was also cruel to the Bulgarians in the 2nd Balkan War and I'm very sorry for that. King Constantine was bad and ineffective for Greece too actually, instead of trying to beat countries in war he did war crimes to force them to surrender. He was also very authoritarian and wouldn't join the Entente to liberate Greeks from Turkey because he wanted to protect his position more than actually doing good for the Greeks. As he ruled with terror in Greece, he exerted the same attitude to Bulgaria in our war and for that I'm very sorry. Now we are actually pretty peaceful and friendly, I'd back Bulgaria in anything they may need and I also have a Bulgarian friend here. Здравейте friends 🇬🇷🤝🇧🇬

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

Summed it up well yourself

[@skamazbg5675]

🇧🇬♥️🇬🇷

[@johnxina8954]

You say "Bulgarians were very cruel" but only "Constantine was cruel". It's like the atrocities were done by him and not the Greek soldiers. That is not true.

[@aleksandarstoichev5463]

I agree,Constantine was a jerk but he didn't massacre or forced Bulgarians in Macedonia to flee himself didn't he?Everyone are saying that soldiers aren't evil in any war but that is actually the cause in a lot of war.My own family from my father's side were originally from Kukush.The Greek king didn't come and force them to flee,the Greek soldier were the ones who did it,the King didn't kill Bulgarians in Trikeri concentration camp,the Greek authorities there did.In fact some of the worst atrocities were executed from army subjects not Government ones.

[@johnxina8954]

@@aleksandarstoichev5463 Same goes for Bulgaria

[@ГеоргиДимитриев]

Forget about past , we should respect each other , because we have something common : we are slavs and orthodox 🇧🇬🤝🇷🇸☦

[@-wayter-8913]

Bulgaristan Tatar Türkiye'dir

[@yazovgaming]

@@-wayter-8913 Speak English Turk

[@-wayter-8913]

@@yazovgaming I'm not a Turk, I just know Turkish

[@kristiyankrasimirov9308]

@@-wayter-8913 What did you mean when you said bulgaristan tatar turkdoeyor?

[@ivokantarski6220]

@Kafa kafica tatars be Bolgars not the other way around

[@Nasko789]

Check your facts before you make the video 1. serbia and Bulgaria had an agreement before the war and Serbians were not supposed to go south of a certain predetermined line before the war, north of that line there was a contested zone that the tzar or Russia was supposed to determine border. the Serbians broke the agreement, the whole 100000 soldiers was just an excuse, they were greedy for more land In your video you don't even mention aegean Macedonia, which had Bulgarians on it and Bulgarians were supposed to liberate them but Greeks got there first(Serbia-Bulgaria video I guess) 2. people in Macedonia were Bulgarians and wanted to join Bulgaria, they might have been some greeks and some Albanians but there was like 90% Bulgarians Serbians 1% maybe, serbs and greeks had no right to claim that territory 3. you make it look like Bulgaria did the backstabbing when Bulgaria got backstabbed. they had the most numerous and most militarized army and suffered the biggest losses, pretty much beat the turks themselves and got cheated. the Bulgarians did not backstab Serbia, they went to liberate their people in the 2nd balkan wars 4. the greeks and Serbians got an agreement to go against the Bulgarians just to steal the land and the people on it(many of which who rejected were exiled), also they got together with the turks(which they just fought) and Romanians just to make sure Bulgaria will lose- Second Balkan war 5. tito did not promote the south slavic state he ruined it, that was the reason he got a fall out with Stalin 6. Tito did not crate the identity(he had no choice not to give them their state, since everyone else got a state), the identity was created before, he is responsible of BUGAROFOBIJA, just so Macedonians forget their Bulgarian roots

[@HeroManNick132]

North Macedonia*

[@liltinglullaby3282]

Very nice, interesting video! Could you perhaps make a video on Serbo-Hungarian relations?

[@AmericanImperium1776]

I second this suggestion. 😎👍

[@man33m]

Im from North Macedonia and i can clear it out for you that we the macedonians have always been ethnic bulgarians. The only difference between us living in North Macedonia and those that live in Bulgaria was that we called ourselfs бугари and bulgarians from Bulgaria call themselfs българи

[@Mikij92]

90% of Macedonians have serbian first names and even your family names are mostly serbian just with the ending „ski“ or „ov“ instead of „ić“, wich is a result of bulgarisation during 1. & 2. ww and during the Tito-Regime. There was a significant serbian population in macedonia, just look up for the serbian monuments and monasterys and serbian uprisings during the ottoman occupation in Macedonia. The serbian people in Macedonia didn‘t just disappear.

[@man33m]

@@Mikij92 You have 0 (zero) knowledge of history my friend. I dont know have you ever been in North Macedonia, i wouldnt be surpriced if you are even a teenager. Why then serbians needed 15.000 jandarm's from 1919 to 1940? Have you ever heard of Todor Alexandrov, Ivan Mihailov, Alexandar Protugjerov, Mara Buneva, Mencha Karnishova..., and long long list of macedonian bulgars heros that fought against the serbs? And on the other hand there are only a handful a scambag traitor that sided with serbs like Jovan Babunski

[@0xe849]

@@man33m , even the traitor and killer Jovan Babunski was with bulgarian name and parrents. His name was Йован Стойков, wich he changed later, when serbs recruited him. The story was simillar with Lazar Koloshevski with his original name "Лазар Колишев".

[@Te0gop]

@@hyro3292The problem is not that there is now separate country of North Macedonia. The problem is that their policy still does not accept the trouth history because of afraid for losing their identity. In 21st century it sounds stupid for me, but they live in that way...

[@tomgu2285]

@@0xe849 Jovan Babunski real name was Jovan stojkovic idiot.

[@Krumanionec]

I love serbian sence of humor, it is indeed the best in the world, the second is english and the third russian, and so on. I watched almost every serbian movie out there at least two times. Forgiveness is the step forword for both nations. Copmmon ground and respect toword one another. Love form Bulgaria!

[@HeroManNick132]

Леле, по-голям селяндур от тебе няма.

[@thatisme3thatisme38]

You omit one detail that Serbia and Greece hD already made a secret pact to divide Macedonia between themselves in violation of the original agreements. Secondly Serbia delayed and refused to attend a arbitration by the Russian tsar which eventually lead to war.

[@ivodimitrov8914]

I am Bulgarian, but I've been in Serbia, N. Macedonia, Monte Negro and Bosnia. Incredible people everywhere. Why we can't live like normal people? Why we look in the past, instead of future? I don't hate any of our neighbors. Why any of them would hate me? It is crazy situation

[@mihailnikoloff2554]

Ask the hundreds of Bulgarians in the grave who perished under Serbian/Yugoslav rule in Macedonia.

[@starece177]

@@mihailnikoloff2554 what he said and he stayed alive

[@aceshigh6085]

because politics an nationalists split us

[@nebitno5054]

​@@mihailnikoloff2554do u know that Yugoslavian rule was not Serbian, just look at map of communist Yugoslavia provinces, Yugoslavian main enemy was Serbian state

[@mihailnikoloff2554]

Maybe but they took Vardarska Macedonia from Bulgaria and made it Serbomanian. @@nebitno5054

[@Sevastokrator.]

You've put a fair amount of work into this, which is admirable, but at some points you lean heavily towards the Serbian perspective when making conclusions. Especially in the presentation of San Stefano treaty and Tsar Boris III. Saying that Bulgaria sided with Germany "out of anger and desperation" is a completely false statement and I have no idea where you got that from.

[@The7yph00n]

quite obvious to me ts the case. and serbia has done the same, many times.

[@serbiaballshomebase]

Love to Bulgaria from Serbia

[@Hektor1971]

But keep in mind that the Serbs have made a country (2 cities) 200 years after us. Belgrade is a Bulgarian city, if you do not believe it see what it says on its walls at the entrance, the Serbs took from us, not us from them, Kings, Cities, capital, alphabet, saints, territories, culture. They were insignificant until the 14th century and for a short time (40) years they were stronger than us. They were simply a Byzantine project that aimed to divide the mighty empire into the Bulgarians. We have them as a carefree slightly stupid child that we like.

[@georgidimitrov828]

Over a period of a few weeks I've watched a lot of your content. I was immediately impressed, and promoted your channel! Now back to this video's topic... I have for a long time browsed the internet and KZbin in particular, desperately trying to find an objective overview of this very complex relationship that we've had. And, voila! What a masterpiece! For any self-conscious Bulgarian, except the newly formed 5th colony of the global financial interests, Macedonia has always been an integral part of Bulgarian history. And while Serbian interference in Macedonia during the wars is to be blamed somewhat, it is indeed a franction of the puzzle. The greater picture shows clearly, to those able to raise high enough to see it, that foreign geopolitical interest has been in the core of our divisions. And the only way out of this swamp of mediocrity, yet worse... the slow erasing of the peoples on the Balkans is to oppose these powers. Oppose them via unification and understanding of our common fundamental interests. I have dreamt to hear a plead for unification, and can't thank you enough for making it. Let's hope more people fall into it! And now in Serbian (rather poor): Veliki pozdrav za ovo sto radis, brate! Nadam se sto vise ljudi slusaju i razumeju! Поздрави от България!

[@Danny-iq8rv]

Great video! I would have loved to help, but my Bulgarian brothers, who helped you did a great job. You did a great job at showing both sides of the story. After all, we’re just Slavs. We love each other, outr music and our rakija. As long as the Serbian and Bulgarian people are on good terms, politics and the ass licking towards the west, doesn’t mean anything

[@vojintodorovic7487]

Still watching video,already can tell it's beautifuly done

[@Lucas_07-PL]

Hey on what topic ur channel focuses?

[@gaja9092]

Politics.

[@ktu5547]

Balkan politics and history

[@lonelyhetaliafangirl4936]

As a half-Bulgarian and half-Serbian, I wish love and peace to all my Balkan brothers and sisters ❤️

[@IliyanStoychev]

леп микс хаха

[@HeroManNick132]

Лоша комбинация. С полусърби като вас само комплекси имам.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@IliyanStoychev нелеп*

[@runtav_guz8564]

8:40 "ethnonationalist super-state" not biased by the way, both prospectives by the way

[@AmericanImperium1776]

Can you do a video on Romania and it's relation to its neighbors? Keep up with the Great work. God Bless and Peace. ✌🏻 Take Care. Bye. 👋🏻

[@teodortodorov1662]

Serbia in 1914: _Bulgarians annex Macedonia again!!!_ Serbia in 2021: _Bulgarians listen to serbian music again!!!_

[@aleksandar_srb]

😁😁😁😁😁

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

You got late to the party. In Macedonian we have been listening to that shit for a long time (and it will for many years to come). Ugh, turbo folk is the worst.

[@BalkanRedneck]

All Balkan nations should stick together, support each other and become independent of the West.

[@freshvision73]

Northern Macedonia to 🇧🇬 Montenegro, Kosovo and Bosnia and Herzogovina to 🇷🇸 What's wrong?

[@tomgu2285]

North Macedonia to serbia

[@n.k.9859]

Stupido with such way of thinking Kosovo is the smallest thing you are gonna loose next time.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@tomgu2285 Долу лапите.

[@intel386DX]

All Yugoslavia 😊

[@nemanjaarbutina8671]

So Excited to see the new shift in the channel's content

[@skamazbg5675]

On the Vardar front Greece,Montenegro and Serbia were fighting 1 ottoman army while Bulgaria was fighting 4 and was carrying the main bulk of the war in fact the ottoman fortress of Lozengrad and Edrine were captured by Bulgarians. Serbia and allies had 3:1 advantage over the ottomans and still want more help this is invalid argument. It was Bulgarians who captured the fort of Edrine not serbs.

[@gaja9092]

Ok but serbs sent help to bulgarians on the western part of the front which wasnt even part of the deal, while bulgarians sent no help to serbs on the albanian front which WAS in the deal.

[@skamazbg5675]

@@gaja9092 As i said Bulgaria fought a lot more forces then all it's allies combined and still send a division to Macedonia. Bulgaria got it's hands full. Also the only thing the serbs send was one unit and artillery the rest was Bulgarian and the Fortress was taken by Bulgarians. In fact when the attack on the fortress started in 2:30 am the Serbian artillery was asleep and this is not downgradeing the serbian involvement but it's a fact that Bulgaria did way more.

[@gaja9092]

Hmmm maybe, but if you stood to the promises you signed in the deal you would have goten n. macedonia. And also, Serbia was supposed to annex albania, but since A-H didnt like that, we gave up on our rightfull claim and something that we managed to occupy, just to save ourselves AND you from Austria, because they said that if we disnt retreat from albania, they would declare war on not only us but Bulgaria and greece too. So youre not the only one :(

[@skamazbg5675]

@@gaja9092 1st Serbia, Bulgaria and Greece are stronger then AH. Second Serbia had no ethnic claim on north Albania. Even if it was annexed it would have caused you problems.

[@gaja9092]

Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria sre in NO way stronger than AH. We just came out of a war and some of us got a country just recenently. We were also tired of war eith the ottomans, and AH had allies in Germany. Also, i never said we withdraw because they are a super power, no, we just wanted to save ourselves and you from another major war.

[@axios76]

Melodrama? You call melodrama the desire of a nation to get united? You call melodrama the life of hundreds of thousands ethnical Bulgarians left behind in greek and serbian rule? Entire regions with 90% bulgarian population slaughtered by the greeks and the serbs? My both grand parents from both sides are from aegian Makedonia and I know first hand. It is very easy to find documents from independent historians about the predominant population in these regions. Serbs have never been, are not and will never be our brothers. And it is not only us who share this "infinite love" to you. All nations around you "love" you so much. You need to wonder why. But when you got bombed in '99, you complained. How come? Be tough not only when you are in the position of power, but on the screwed side as well. It has always been easy for you when you have Greece, Russian, France and England on your side. What are you worth when you are alone in a face to face battle? Well, we all know that answer. Enough said.

[@tomgu2285]

In ww1 you tatars literally attacked Serbia with Austria hungary and Germany and ww2 to 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. You little tatar. Try doing it now. And Macedonian is old Serbia! Not tataristan! And bosnia is Serbia to!

[@axios76]

@@tomgu2285, you forgot Paris, Stockholm, New York, London and Tokyo are serbia too :))))) It is time to sober up:)))

[@tomgu2285]

@@axios76 hahahaha realy funny 🤦‍♂️

[@Annatomova7]

Hey there, I’m a Bulgarian who grew up in America. I’ve taken a lot of time to reconnect with my heritage and to learn more about the balkans. I’ve really grown to like and admire Serbia as well. It’s funny how a year ago I found out that I’m a quarter Serbian, actually. I love both countries, and I want nothing but the best for both. In general I love balkans and I hope things start to change. As a kid I was always unsure how I should feel about Serbia considering they were long time rivals throughout history, but all these years I missed out on all the good times both nations had as well. I honestly would love to see the two become really close again, and show off how cool they are to all those naysayers like Austria, America, Germany, Russia, etc. it’s like a Romeo and Juliet but in country form and a lot of bickering between the two. No one wants to see Serbia and Bulgaria happy and in an alliance, mainly because they’re all to scared of how strong we’d be working closely together. 😂

[@Стефанов-х7ю]

Толкова хубаво си го написала, че даже се просълзих. Браво!

[@beadsman13]

Historically Bulgaria and Serbia were rivals from day 1. In Bulgaria we sometimes joke that if Serbians stop hating us they won't have reason to exists. Same goes for N. Macedonia.

[@Annatomova7]

@@beadsman13 absolutely not. Macedonia is completely different from Serbia… are you claiming that Serbia is a fake nation? Are you implying that they’re Bulgarian too? And this whole thing of you claiming that we hated eachother since day 1 is bullshit. Read some unbiased history for once and let go of your hatred towards Serbia.

[@beadsman13]

@@Annatomova7 No. It looks like they're main drive is to be opposition of Bulgaria.

[@Annatomova7]

@@beadsman13 no it’s not. Do you even know any Serbs personally?

[@health019]

Honestly, Serbia and bulgarias relations kinda stem from favorite child syndrome. When Russia freed the Balkans, both Bulgaria and Serbia were tied to Russia, yet with the Austrians becoming more of an issue, and the idea of a Slavic superstate adapted mainly by the Serbians, Bulgaria slowly drifted out of the picture for Russia, as Bulgaria kind of just went off and did its own thing, gaining territories it wanted instead of what Russia wanted, making a Balkan Slavic superstate. It’s kind of sad to see how Bulgarians were treated from 1910-1950 as they were punished for simply wanting territories they thought were tied to them, the exact same thing Serbia did. Except Serbia got no neuielly sur suien , Bulgaria did. I’m incredibly proud of the Bulgarian people, still with all these setbacks they’ve faced, they were able to stand up to German horrors aswell not become a hate driven state like how Germany became, instead, they focused on striving for their people, and that is something I can deeply respect. Bulgaria will always have my respect as the most misunderstood Balkan nation.

[@HeroManNick132]

Russia never freed anyone. This propaganda is still going on, can't believe it. I bet now the same way they are "freeing" Ukraine from a minority neo-nazis. They did it for themselves (because national interests on first place then everything else. And plus Russia has nothing to do with Rus. Its real name is Moscovia. Also Serbia and Bulgaria are older than Russia so what you said makes 0 sense.

[@nordkrom4270]

Interesting how you showing map that shows Macedonia populated by ''both serbs and Bulgarians'' when large part of east ''serbian'' territories had Bulgarian population.

[@stefansavatovic4876]

It's also interesting how he failed to mention that the bulgarians claim their descent from the turkic bulgars that came to the present day bulgaria from the Volga region. Also: there was a large amount of people that identified as Serbs in the areas around Vidin and Sofia and across the western bulgaria before WW1. The people that lived in the present day bulgaria were Slavic people that were not yet mixed with the turkic bulgars. The same people lived in present day Serbia as well. The difference being that a part of the population in the present day bulgaria mixed with the turkic bulgars while in Serbia that was not the case. The Slavic people that lived in the present day Serbia and eastern Bosnia created their own state while the Slavic people in present day bulgaria stayed under the turkic bulgar rule. That means that all the people in bulgaria that did not mix with the turkic bulgar conquerors are genetically Serbs speaking the bulgarian language. That also means that the entirety of bulgaria should be a part of Serbia since the turkic bulgars were a small part of the population and only a very small percentage of people are of turkic bulgar descent. So, you're either descendants of the turkic bulgars and should be driven out of Europe; or you're descendants of the Slavic people that inhabited present day bulgaria before the turkic bulgars came, which means that the only difference between Serbs and bulgarians is a slightly different language. If that is the case, there is no reason to fight, we can unite under one country. PS: I intentionally wrote "bulgaria" and "bulgars" with small letters because you wrote Serbs with small letters as well. I look forward to your reply.

[@koragrobot]

@Kafa kafica That’s just bullshit and you know it, but let’s not go down that road. You can claim this nonsense all you want and I can claim Niš and Pirot, but would that result in anything good?

[@koragrobot]

@Kafa kafica I really don’t care about this stupid argument. Used to have them when I was 15 years old. I assume you are a teenager, since it would be really sad to still believe nationalist propaganda bullshit. And you know that Belgrade was in Bulgaria for centuries right? Does that matter though? No! Bulgarian and Serbian are closer to one another than some dialects of Italian or German. Do what you want with that information. But considering the fact that your profile pic is a fake ethnic map I won’t reply to any more idiotic comments. Niš and Pirot are as of now Serbian cities, as well as Vidin is a Bulgarian one, and none of this is going to change.

[@mitko94b]

By far the best video on this topic. I see many comments about unifications and I don't think this is possible or useful in any way in 2021. I hope you guys join the EU soon. It would make both our lives easier and it would bring our countries closer than ever.

[@HeroManNick132]

Това ще стане, когато си откъснат пипалата от Русия и признаят Косово за държава, което няма да стане скоро в близкото бъдеще, така че не се надявай.

[@raisetheblack6991]

It's really nice that you asked Bulgarians to get our perspectives, but did you miss the tons of Serbian atrocities to the Bulgarians in Macedonia and the forced Serbianisation in purpose? The list is countless but for example Tikveš uprising in 1913? And why didn't you mention the thousand refugees fleeing from Serbian rule and coming to Bulgaria after the balkan wars and WW1? And what about the Bloody Christmas in 1945, where serbs yet again tried to exterminate everything bulgarian thats left? The fact that the people of the region joined our army and after the war they came to us shows who is right and who isn't. Read the book Black Hand Over Europe to see french perspective after WW1. Btw many of those churches and monasteries were originally Bulgarian, since we had the region long before you and for much longer time. Skopie was our capitol (972-992) Prespa (992-997) Ohrid (997-1016) and Bitola (1016-1018) and many of the churches were build during Tsar Samuel. The Serbs tried to erase the presence of the Bulgarians in Macedonia, so they crossed out their names from the graves and rewrote the frescoes in the churches, changed the language and the images.

[@danielgustavsson1232]

That sounds like serbs allright. I was in nordbat 2 batallion in Bosnia and saw some bloody things what they did there claiming everything was serbian and killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people.

[@rodoljubmutavdzic1386]

BUDALO A STA STE VI BUGARI AKO STE SLOVENI KAKO STE NASTALI.OD SRBA TRACANA I MAKEDONA KOJE SU POKORILI BUGARI AZIJATI SA KAVKAZA TURSKO PLEME.

[@davor9217]

I’m from Macedonia, and no, i’m not gonna claim that we are a seperate nation… There were both Bulgarian and Serbian kingdoms on this territory and the people here have mixed Bulgarian/Serbian ancestry, but the claim you did on the monasteries and churches is simply false. Serbs did not rewrite and change frescoes, those monasteries and churches still exist and the frescoes are usually in old slavonic, but they did build new ones under their rule, and yes, both sides did atrocities depending under which influence the locals were. Thing is, the local peasantry suffered the most, like in any war … And now, we have a seperate national identity which claims our ancestors were the ancient macedonians which ofc is bullcrap 🙄🙄🙄

[@raisetheblack6991]

@@davor9217 There is tons of evidence of what the Serbs did in Macedonia, but unfortunately I am not qualified enough to talk about all of it. You can read the book Black Hand Over Europe by Henri Pozzi which covers a period of the Serbian occupation. And yes, the people who lived in the region suffered the most. Bulgaria fought 3 wars for the them, not for territory like the Serbs. We lost access to the Aegean Sea because of it, but we fought for a honorable reason, we fought for our brothers and sisters in Macedonia. And we get nothing but hate for it, but thats okay.

[@davor9217]

@@raisetheblack6991 Bulgaria didn’t fight for the people here … they also fought for territory. They did a lot of atrocities. During the Second Balkan War Locals were forced to pick a side (Serbs or Bulgarians) and if for example a Village was aligned towards the Serbs, the locals would get massacred and the village burned. That’s so naive of you to think they fought because they cared about the people … The people in the Vardar part of Macedonia got liberated from the Turks during the First Balkan War and mostly due to the Serb chetniks while the Bulgarian ones had to fight on a different front on the south. Because of that after the end of the war this part was given to Serbia, and Bulgarians not satisfied with that started the second war. As i previously stated the locals are of mixed Bulgarian/Serbian ancestry here. Both Serbs and Bulgarians had kingdoms here and even the royal families intermarried. I for example know that i have reltives in both countries

[@saillok4923]

What about Greco-Serbian relations next?

[@AmericanImperium1776]

Yes! 😎👍

[@Wolverine-ky9gk]

Pretty good relations

[@idkmyname7211]

They are not as good as people think

[@МладиГангстер]

Great relations. 👍

[@saillok4923]

@@idkmyname7211Why? We are allies for like 200 years, we always helped each other

[@Kris-eu6vt]

Dude you mix up things quite a lot! I stopped at 3:17 - just couldn't watch anymore. Look - just a (I hope you get it that way) constructive criticism. First of all you start from the time of 19th century or so. You say both brotherly nations laid claim on Macedonia by jumping back in time when the Ottomans came (wtf?! - why not follow the timeline in the first place if you want to be objective?). You miss to say that the language of these so called Macedonians is grammatically and structurally a Bulgarian one. Both are analytic languages with no cases! It is in fact one language unique among the Slavic family of languages which has no cases. Yes you had the land of Macedonia during the short time of the period of Dusan and the Serbian Empire (Tsardom) at the time but we had two tsardoms for much longer time than yours and with this land being essential part of our tsardoms which is long before your claims on that land! It was the heartland of the late First Bulgarian Empire and where the last of the Bulgarian resistance was suppressed by the Byzantines at the end of the First Bulgarian Tsardom. Let me point out the following - the quarrels we both nations have, they were made up in relatively recent history. Back in time there no division between the two nations. After the battle of Velbuzd (Велбъжд) today Kyustendil, where Serbian Empire won, the Byzantines wrote that the captured Bulgarians could freely talk with their captives since they were same people. Regarding this nozh u ledga thing your less smart compatriots tend to repeat like idiots all the time. We have been backstabbed by you as well and not once! During the Second Balkan war you and the greeks had separate secret contract that you will divide Macedonia between you both - this was not what all the Balkan nations agreed upon before the war! Our big mistake was that we didn't send almost any forces in this part of the Balkans which led to you and the greeks occupying all of it! Now - our moron Tsar Ferdinand, instead of trying to solve the problem with diplomacy, he was so high because of the victories of our army against the Turks (the biggest by far part of the Turkish forces were engaged against us) that he decided let's attack our allies since they cheated on us. Utterly stupid move. But again - isn't that secret contract backstabbing from your side? There was one Serb down in comments who said that - there were backstabbings from both sides. I agree and I thank him for that comment. I know our armies did some horrific things against other Balkan nations at some points in history - this is awful and I'm not proud of that! Unfortunately in all our nations - Bulgarians, Serbs, Greeks, Croats, Romanians, Turks - the majority of our populations are idiots. It's up to the more intelligent people from these nations to draw the map for future cooperation and extinguish the hate since it doesn't bring anything good. I don't hate Serbs and I regularly listen to old Serbian music (not this crap from recent years) being from NorthWest Bulgaria. For me, our folklore music is sacred and it's the best music of Earth, but yours comes second. To both Bulgarians and Serbs - if we continue to quarrel, we will perish. Once we conquered the Balkans from the Roman Empire - today we are dying nations with gypsies, turks, albanians multiplying like rabbits within our borders. Let's be smart and remember who we were and who we are! Respect to my South Slavic brothers. Wake up!

[@Zytwix]

As A Bulgarian Serbian Ive Lived In Both Countrys And There Both Pretty Chill With Eachother

[@HeroManNick132]

На ич ли ти е фамилията?

[@mr.alien963]

Valjda je Makedonija Zimbabve?

[@SokoGames2023tm]

Brate ne znam kako nemas vise suba Odlican i edikacioni video!

[@HeroManNick132]

''едукациони'' Боже, вашият селски диалект е смешен!

[@Christian-su2df]

As a Bulgarian I wish Bulgaria and Serbia to be friends because we are neighbers and a lot of common in our culture!

[@HeroManNick132]

Ако шовинистите оттам и Русия ги нямаше, можехме да сме приятели, ама не сме... По-добре да си стоят, където са си... Притрябвали са ни тия клоуни, които създадоха тъй наречената РСМ. Ако тя не може да бъде част от България и Молдова не може да бъде част от Румъния, то тогава си заслужават Косово да бъде изцяло територия на Албания! На сърби нямам никаква вяра тям, ама никаква!

[@Christian-su2df]

@@HeroManNick132 ни си прав, много хора там са жертва на тамошното корумпирано правителство

[@HeroManNick132]

@@Christian-su2df То и нашето не е светена вода, ама Вучич си е педалски Путлеров подражател...

[@RU-Aussie]

@@HeroManNick132 Macedonia living rent free in your little Tatar head.What a shit life you have . You must spend all your time trolling Macedonian post. You need medical help.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@RU-Aussie Lol cry/

[@Rai-Bulgaria]

Srbs: We're taking Nis, Vranya, and Pirot (1878). Bulgarians: Surdulica 1916!

[@Korac_Mapping]

We are brothers 🇷🇸❤️🇧🇬

[@jebise6656]

0:00 cool map but may i ask why the southern autonomous province of kosovo and metohija shown separately from the Reoublic of Serbia

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

Because I did not make the map and there is basically 0 nice maps on the internet without Kosovo.

[@jebise6656]

@@BalkanOdyssey_ i can understand that, but finding a correct map, or if you can't find one, photoshopping the "border" between the so called kosovo and serbia is worth it if you ask me

[@clionize]

Пожелавам Мир и Просперитет на България и целият сват ----{----@

[@ki5739]

What you've described here is the outcome but you've missed all the causes for it thus making the video superficial. A balanced analysis does not mean to omit the key facts that Serbia's claims over Macedonia are strategic and political while the Bulgarian aspirations are purely historical and ethnic.

[@dannzelenin1415]

Bulgaria has a deep connection to Russia in terms of our very similar languages both coming from the same one also , the same alphabet, names, religion, culture etc. more than any other Balkan nation. Tho we share music, folklore, stories, and dna with our Serbian brothers so we can vibe with both. However I don't feel any connection or care about croats and bosnians. A pan Slavic orthodox union on the Balkans sounds like a wonderful idea to me . Sadly I think serbs hate us too much for such a thing to be even mentioned.

[@cezar3977]

I like your avatar. Which flag is it? I see it also on the videos of Canov Napred i Nagore. Yes, a pan Slavic orthodox union on the Balkans sounds great. It would be great if Macedonians and Bulgarians can settle their differences. It's really a very sad thing, especially with regard to our history. In 1912 many young men from Macedonia went to die at the gates of Carigrad for the freedom of Bulgaria. It's sad that so many young men from Macedonia have negative attitude towards Bulgaria. By the way, you're very wrong about Serbs. They don't hate Bulgarians. It's us, Macedonians, unfortunately, that have negative feelings, although it changes slowly. I've been many times in Serbia and have a lot of connections there. Serbs have other problems, like Kosovo i Metohija, and still some disputes with Croatia. Also Republika Srpska in Bosnia and Herzegovina is a matter of concern. Very few people in Serbia hate Bulgaria, and they are dying out.

[@milostomic8539]

Bulgarians just like Croats always pick the wrong side in history, especially in WW1 and WW2.In both of those wars Bulgaria was an enemy of Russia. Although in the WW2 Bulgaria didn't invade Soviet Union it still was a member of Tripartite Pact. Bulgaria is today member of EU and NATO.How do Russians look at that?

[@Фниксъ]

@@cezar3977 This the Samara flag which symbolises the Bulgarian military since the Russo-Turkish war of 1878.

[@dannzelenin1415]

Milos Tomic What point are you trying to make ?

[@milostomic8539]

@@dannzelenin1415 Bulgaria was more than often Russian enemy, in WW1 and WW2. Even today with Bulgarian membership in EU and NATO. If there is a war tomorrow between NATO and Russia, Bulgarian soldiers would go and fight against Russians, just like Bulgaria had sent 485 soldiers to Iraq.

[@user-bm4ot3lc4v]

I love seeing these kind of videos, keep it up!

[@thegreatpretenderorale9965]

LET'S MAKE ONE THING STRAIGHT HERE, AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO: Its not ethnonationalism that made both nations fight each other-its the same fucking thing (First Balkan War-Austrian Empire), (2nd Balkan War- Austria Empire again), (WWI-Austria Empire again) (WWII-German Nazi Empire), (Kosovo recognition-modern Germany/EU pressure.) Much love to Bulgaria from Serbia.

[@ΑκαρνάνΚάππα]

You forgot the Break-up of Yugoslavia by The German Foreign Minister, Genscher and the WEST. And today we Greeks are suffering as well. Like Old Times. Are WE going to Learn??? ....I DON'T THINK so.

[@Annatomova7]

Absolutely! It was always foreign nations making us fight. We need to work more on bettering our relations today, and to forget what those jealous foreign powers think, that tried so hard to make us hate one another.

[@ΑκαρνάνΚάππα]

AND the NEXT War. I am hoping that we neighbours begin to understand the Real Culprits.

[@NikeBG]

Austria-Hungary's guilt for the "Balkan gunpowder keg" is considerable, but let's not forget that other Great Powers were involved as well, most notably Russia and to a lesser extent Great Britain. After all, it was Russia which signed the Reichstadt Agreement and the Budapest Convention with Austria-Hungary (and the London agreement with Great Britain), aiming to prevent the formation of a strong state on the Balkans, especially a Slavic one. And if anyone points at San Stefano - that was a preliminary treaty and the Russians knew very well that it won't hold. All of the Great Powers, and especially those three, messed with the Balkans, just like they messed with other parts of the world which are also still very much messed up.

[@roxysponge3447]

Serbia Bulgaria need unity.

[@thatisme3thatisme38]

Erm Yugoslavia did not work. Bulgarians did not even fall for the first offer. Never going yo happen

[@roxysponge3447]

@@thatisme3thatisme38 life under Yugoslavia was better than many slavs live today. Watch the weight of the chains on KZbin. It will help you to understand who is behind Slavic genocide.

[@thatisme3thatisme38]

@@roxysponge3447 maybe but they have only themselves to blame for that.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@roxysponge3447 Never, even in million years.

[@Matrix-e8j]

Yugoslavija was a faild experiment that ended the worst way possible, srbs never learn and never will and for whole was it better? Why did all non serbs leave if they like it so much?? Speak for yourself serb it was far from ideal for Macedonians and the rest, you are as deluded as the tatars to our east, the best thing about yugoslavia was its end, ASNOM fighers that wanted an independed democratic Macedonia where sent to labor camps to die but we got our Chance in 91 so dont speak about us all again

[@Komap619]

This is more than poorly researched .. You state that the macedonian borders where not shaped or agreed on which is completely incorrect with just a simple google search you can find this to be true . Serbia and greece signed secret treaty on the 1st of june 1913 to divide the territorial gains of the war against ottoman empire between themselves , and forcefully occupied the questioned territories , by the time bulgarian troops where mostly in thrace and could hardly reaxh these places in time and when conflict was inevetable romania and ottoman empire joined the war against bulgaria. You state that Bulgaria did not hold on to their numerical soldier contribution on the west . Bulgaria entered that war with about 600000 soldiers and did contribute soldiers to the west with the interstate documents stating anywhere between 30 and 70 thousand soldiers. The statement you made for the san-stefano treaty you made for this "great bulgaria" to be planned as satelite state is not true since such thing is not mentioned anywhere in the treaty . Interesting fact serbia attacked the newly united pricipality of bulgaria because they couldnt handle the austro hungarian empire and the only expansionistic possibility for serbia was that.

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

I literally let Bulgarian nationalists research this for me. Seems like not even you guys can satisfy yourselves hm.

[@Komap619]

@@BalkanOdyssey_ Maybe concider researching yourself if you dont want to accidently spread missinformation. And btw as a serbian you of all people should know that most of (if not all) propaganda and missinformation comes from nationalists , so its easy to say nationalistic people of any nationality are not the most reliable source of such information.

[@Komap619]

I as a history nerd have fallen in the nationalistic trap one too many times ..

[@mcsroom8930]

@@BalkanOdyssey_ i call bs on that, ether you got some average joes that don't know history or you just ignored what they said. I hope its the first bc you have a lot of great videos, also better do a remake or at least a podcast with Kiril from Samuel's fortress, he is probably the best person to get for a video like that

[@dimitarkochev4067]

Serbian Mapping - can I have your permission to create subs in bulgarian ?

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

Of course man, go ahead!

[@Raghallach]

Can you do a video on greater Slovenia

[@НиколайМишев-х1ю]

We have seen good relationship between the two countries since many decades. After complicated and difficult foreign affairs in the begging of the last century to the middle of it today we are OK. There are some similar points between Serbia and Bulgaria that must not forget. Both nations were used by the Great powers via solving their national aims. The history was brutally used for dreams like Dushan ' empire or San Stefano Bulgaria. Both nations lost 20 century and were forced to agree with humiliated agreements. So, we should live with what we have and protect ourselves from influences outside. As we can.

[@theslobokost]

I have the same opinion,greetings from Serbia.

[@vasil.kamdzhalov]

As I have seen more of the details before in this relationship you still missed some things for Bulgaria. The detail for serbian parts of the video I can't really tell how much is told and how much is skipped. I could tell more and the deal part in the First Balkan war was quite dubious. In the end is still nice. But doesn't do much justice for both.

[@petartoshkov2076]

Well, what I like is that you acknowledge that the Macedonian nation was created artificially by SFR Yugoslavia. But I have some objections in a few points. The Russians weren't just about to gift us these lands willy-nilly in the Treaty of San Stefano. They made it on purpose so it must be seen as a "The Russians were stripped of their spoils of victory by the vile western powers but they wanted to give us a huge state" and to awake Russophilia in the Bulgarian population which actually succeeds even to this day. Otherwise there was a Constantinople Conference in 1877 before the war. In this Conference the Great Powers pushed the Ottomans to grant Christian minorities basic autonomy and rights. What the Ottomans did was to draft a constitution which kinda was granting some rights but was not really enough comparing what they have done to the Bosnian and Bulgarian Revolts in 1875 and 1876. So the end result of the conference was that Britain and France withdrew diplomatic and military support from the Ottoman Empire on the condition that the Fate of these Ottoman lands will be decided on an international conference. Why would they draft the Treaty of San Stefano if they already agreed to divide the Ottoman Balkans in an international conference? The Treaty of London of 1913 is contrivercial in Bulgarian history as this was an act of which Bulgarian politicians betrayed the Macedonian Bulgarians by drafting up a treaty which divided them. By popular history the Second Balkan War began because "Bulgaria wasn't happy with the territorial advancements so it declared war". In reality it was a bit chaotic. The Armed Forces acted on their own despite orders from the government as they entered Serbia and Greece lead by revanchist and irredentist ideals. Serbia and Greece officially declared war on Bulgaria and thus the Second Balkan War began. Romania entered the war because the city of Silistra wasn't enough for them and the Ottoman Empire really wanted to re-adjust its Western border beyond the Midia-Enos line. Romanians entered Sofia and the war was over. Although the country saved its jews, they were still deported from the new territories as the Wehrmacht was still kind of in charge of them and ordered the transportation of jews to Auschwitz, Treblinka and other unpleasant places. It was Bulgarian soldiers who put the jews on the trains to death

[@stefansavatovic4876]

The people that lived in the present day Bulgaria were Slavic people that were not yet mixed with the turkic Bulgars. The same people lived in present day Serbia as well. The difference being that a part of the population in the present day Bulgaria mixed with the turkic Bulgars when they invaded present day Bulgaria while in Serbia that was not the case. Since only a small percentage of people in Bulgaria are of the turkic Bulgar descent that means that the vast majority of people in Bulgaria are descendants of the Slavic people that inhabited the area before the turkic Bulgars came. Those Slavic people are the same people that inhabited modern day Serbia. That means that Serbs and Bulgarians are essentially the same people speaking slightly different languages. So, if you claim that Bulgarians are of turkic Bulgar descent, then i have no argument and we can continue fighting every 30-40 years until one gets destroyed. Or, if you claim that Bulgarians are of Slavic descent, then we're the same people and there's no reason to fight. We can unite under one country. That way there would be no more teritorial disputes between Serbs and Bulgarians and both peoples would have one less enemy to worry about.

[@dannzelenin1415]

Lol the Bulgars led by Asparuh where a war band of 10 000 ppl and where more like a ruling elite rather than an actual ethnic group and where not enough to leave a genetic trace . You honestly believe that 7 million bulgars just landed on the Danube? It's preposterous for medieval times. Not to mention Serbian mixing with the Avars long before the Bulgarians came to the Balkans . The bulgars living today in Russia are pale and blue eyed, a lot have red hair and etc . Tbh the Bulgarians on the Volga river look 50 times more Slavic than the average hairy dark eyes turkish looking serbs.

[@stefansavatovic4876]

@@dannzelenin1415 I did not say that 7 million bulgars landed on the shores of the Danube. I know that the bulgars were a small minority. Read my comment again. Serbs did not intermix with avars at a significant rate. Those that did stayed in the present day Hungary with the avars. Serbs don't look like turks. turks look like Serbs. A lot of turks are of Serb / Greek / Bulgarian descent. Real turks from central asia look like Mongolians, not like Europeans.

[@dannzelenin1415]

Стефан Саватовић I did read your comment. You are wrong my man. We don't want to fight with you people. We don't care about you. You are completely indifferent to us. We just want our Macedonia back. It is a very important land for the Bulgarian identity, culture and history. The same as your Kosovo which you lost and will never get back again . Now you know our pain. The Slavic people living on the vardar as more similar to us than to you. Drop your claims on that region and we will recognize the historical injustice that we did by completely destroying your country in the first world war. We will identify that the people of Montenegro are serbs and that Kosovo should be your. If not than we have nothing more to talk about. You are not our historical rival bro... you never where . We do not wish bad relationships with you people, but we simply want what belongs to us🙂

[@dannzelenin1415]

Стефан Саватовић we don't care about Serbia it is indifferent to us. Your problems are your own . We just want to save our Orthodox Slavic brothers in Macedonia from the terrible fate that you people had.

[@nikolaogre460]

@@dannzelenin1415 Mi nismo Sloveni budalo vec Iliri prvi stanovnici Balkana!

[@uber1ns4n1ty8]

Loved this video, next Serbo - Hungarian relations?

[@historylover8139]

ngl i sometimes wish you had a discord channel

[@kosio404]

It was very interesting to hear the other side opinion (About Macedonia). As a Bulgarian I have never heard something bad about Serbia. I have friends from there and I think they are very nice people. In the summer of 2021 I visited Belgrade (it was also the first mark on my passport) and I think it was a very nice there (except it was like 40 degrees by Celsius ). I really hope that Serbia will join the EU, thus allowing easier travel between the two countries and rapprochement of the two nations (like with Romania).

[@PARANORMALNIKANAL]

I guess you could say that relations are " interesting and unusual".

[@keto0303]

This is obviously Serbian biased. When Bulgaria wants to claim their rightful Macedonian territories, they have ethno-nationalistic-superstate goals. But you don't mention the fact that Serbia has done exactly that thing towards the western-balkans and Kosovo, which has an Albanian population majority and is rightfully claimed by Albania. Also, Serbia was against Bulgarian unification from the very start and invaded us, so why should Bulgarians trust serbs? You present the case as to make Bulgaria seem like the imperialist nation in this case, but there is great consensus that Serbia is in fact the nation with the imperialistic tendencies in the Balkans.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@nebitno5054 The Pomoravie region and Belgrade is Bulgarian too.

[@SokolS125]

So are you two friends? Serbia: yes Bulgaria: no

[@markosamardzic8718]

1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaWplpJ-Zc2hp68 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6S2fX2VaKppeKs 3. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnzFoZ2NlpZsmrc 4. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIDKnZqpZZeDodE they dont lie if you dont trust me, thruth is thruth...

[@kosovoisserbia8937]

@throwaway 778 You mean what Croat Tito Done. He made macedonian nationality from Serbs and bulgarians living in macedonia.

[@AnnedolfFrankler911]

As a Bulgarian, I think that we should let go of all of our resentment towards each other because it is all based on history. We cannot change history and times are quite different today. We tend prioritize remembering the bad things over the good things in history. Multiple times, after large conflicts with each other, we have become allies throughout history. The only conflict we might have today is the fact that Bulgaria recognizes Kosovo. But our populations get along well and we face many of the same challenges. So I think there are more reasons to get along, instead of there being tension between us. I wish Serbia the best!

[@aleksandarstoichev5463]

May i ask what kind of a good things we could remember from Belgrade aside from Macedonization and atrocities?

[@AnnedolfFrankler911]

@@aleksandarstoichev5463 Our cooperation against the Ottomans.

[@aleksandarstoichev5463]

@@AnnedolfFrankler911 what kind of cooperation?I think you forget that Serbia was the only Christianic nation that suported Ottomans at the battle of Nicopol. If u mean the first balkan war "cooperation", well bro i think we cooperated with them,not they with us,giving the fact that the Bulgarian 3 armies had to face the main Ottoman armies in Thrace and some corps in Rhodopes.Serbian forces in Macedonia had to fought with a forces almost double lower of their size.And we all know what the Serbian friendship and cooperation lead to later.

[@AnnedolfFrankler911]

@@aleksandarstoichev5463 During Bulgaria's war for independence, Serbia also sent help. And, yes I also mean the 1st Balkan war. Yes, compared to Bulgaria, Serbia didn't do shit but they still were a diversion. I know that Serbia has been a piece of shit towards Bulgaria, for the most part. But there were times of cooperation. That's my point.

[@aleksandarstoichev5463]

@@AnnedolfFrankler911 Serbia sent around 40k in the siege of Odrin only because they were obligated to do so by the treaty of 1912 between the 2 countries.They didn't send help just because of good will or something of this kind.And later on they used the argument that the send help in the Thracian front,so they can justify their occupation of Vardar Macedonia.It was all clever policy,not from good will.

[@bakshev]

As for Macedonia, it's Bulgarian. I know many Macedonians, Serbs and Greeks don't want to hear it, but it's true. It's historically provable and personally, my maternal grandmother's family are from Macedonia. I think the compromise we can do now is somehow we help you get back Kosovo and Montenegro and we get Macedonia. I think it's fair, considering that you get access to the sea. Also I've come to the idea of a Balkan federation as well. I think that Greece and Romania should be a part of it as well, considering that Romania is the biggest Balkan nation both teritorially and populations wise and Greece has a lot of disputes with Turkey and a good location. We all know that we were fighting over insignificant details in the XIII-th and XIV-th century and we paid for it dearly. The Balkan geopolitical situation right now is quite similar if you think about it. You have a strong Turkey that has plans for conquering Balkan teritories in Anatolia and a bunch of weakened and fragmented countries on the Balkans. We can't effectively counterbalance Turkey's power as we are. P.S. We didn't join Hitler out of desperation. True the territories offered by the Germans were one of the reasons, but tzar Boris stalled, until Hitler issues an ultimatum "Either we go through Bulgaria as allies or as enemies". His armies were at the Danube. At that point neutrality was not possible anymore.

[@yudzin88]

What you wrote there is common sense. But you forgot one thing. We are all not independent nations, we are Western colonies their puppets, every single one of us. Economically and politically totally enslaved, militarily all in NATO except Serbia, but NATO has bases in Kosovo and a military access and diplomatic immunity through Serbia. Their officers sit in the Serbian general staff and they are the ones who allow Serbia which weapons can Serbia buy and which cant. Serbia has military exercises with NATO every year. So it is hardly a neutral country. The same applies to "neutral" Bosnia who is "neutral" just because of Serbians, otherwise they would join NATO long ago.

[@intel386DX]

​@@yudzin88totally agree. We have never been independent, even after ottoman empire.

[@arhgentumm]

Bulgaria has THE biggest number of very beautiful women. There are so many of them no other country comes even close

[@remove_marko]

Ukraine is second and Poland third place... One thing all Slavs have in common

[@teodortodorov1662]

Yeah, bulgarian women are beautiful, except pop-folk singers 🤣

[@sandernista6499]

Gypsies are beautiful? Fam, you need glasses

[@teodortodorov1662]

@@sandernista6499 I don`t think so

[@tomgu2285]

Tatars are beautiful? Lol.

[@nick3175]

Not bad, but not entirely accurate video. Macedonia was part of the first and second Bulgarian kingdoms. It was under Serbian control for relatively short period of time, less than two centuries. But even then, the majority of the population had Bulgarian ethnicity - spoke the Bulgarian language, as there were not such things as nations in the medieval ages. And you miss entirely that point. There were enough sources that prove, the majority of the population of Macedonia were still Bulgarians in XIX century. True Serbians were second major ethnic group, specially in the northern part of Macedonia, were they were even majority in some areas, but in general they were minority as Greeks, Albanians, Turks and etc. So Serbia fought for the land, Bulgaria fought for the land and the people. In the WWI the Bulgarian army was greeted as liberator in most of the Macedonian towns and villages. True in the WWII the Bulgarian army did a lot of atrocities in Macedonia and Serbia, but that was not ethnic based violence, as the Bulgarian army and police did the same, even worse in Bulgaria. There was not even idea for Macedonian nation up to the Balkan wars. Most Macedonians self-determined as Bulgarians up to 1950s. Initially the idea for Macedonian nation was born, after the losses of the Balkan wars, and specially of WWI. Many people in Macedonia realized that the unification with Bulgaria is "causa perduta". Others felt betrayed as the authorities in Sofia did not make enough to fulfill the goal for unification, did not really support the pro-Bulgarian movements in Macedonia, and even used many Macedonian leaders in selfish ways, related to internal political agendas in Bulgaria. All that people came to the idea, that as they cannot, or even do not want anymore to unite with Bulgaria, they can create a new nation. That idea was manipulated and cunningly replaced by the Serbian communists after WWII. They created a new "Macedonian language" where most Bulgarian words were replaced with Serbian. And they literally built a new pro-Serbian Macedonian nation, almost from scratch. Initially that was supported by the Bulgarian communists. Most of the population of Eastern Macedonia was even forced to change their names to "Macedonian" (Serbian). The people who opposed were detained in concentration camps - entire families. So the idea was in the new big Balkan Union, led by Serbia, to exist big Macedonia. Then Stalin and Tito split, and the Bulgarians in southwest took back their birth names. But the Macedonian nation was born in Yugoslavia. Nowdays Bulgaria has not any territorial or national claims over modern Macedonia. What we want is Macedonia to accept the historical facts, and to give up any claims over the territory, the history and the language of Bulgaria.

[@BalkanOdyssey_]

I appreciate the input and consteuctive criticism. I'll always miss some points from the "opposing side", considering the fact that I have a limited pool of sources.

[@tomgu2285]

North part of Macedonia like skoplje was always part of serbia tough.

[@nick3175]

@@tomgu2285 This is not true. It was part of Bulgarian kingdom up to the middle of XIII century. Then it was part of Serbian kingdom, then part of independent kingdom. From the end of XIV century to 1912 Skopje was part of the Ottoman empire. Then, up to 1915, it was in Serbia. Then, up to 1918 it was in Bulgaria. Then, up to 1941 it was again in Serbia. And again, up to 1945 was in Bulgaria. And the majority of the population was Bulgarian up to the mid of XX century. There are records from the Ottoman empire, and there the population is pointed as Bulgarian. Then after the WWI French occupation force made research, as the initial agreement was borders to be drawn according to the population. Still the majority was Bulgarian, but as Bulgaria lost the war, the final agreement of the winners gave Macedonia to Serbia. There were some areas with majority of Serbian population like the area around Kumanovo. Specially in Skopje the majority of the population was Turkish up to 1912. Bulgarians were the second biggest group, but close to the Serbians.

[@dayanbalevski4446]

I think that if Serbia took its claws off of Macedonia, Bulgaria might not have had a reason to recognize Kosovo. If only Serbia can open and release their UDBA documents regarding North Macedonia, maybe we can be friends and move on from this. Also, it is undeniable that 70-80% of the population of Macedonia was Bulgarians when Serbia occupied it... and thousands of Macedonian Bulgarians fled from Macedonia to save themselves from Serbian attrocities. My ancestors are some of those. The language of North Macedonia is over 90% entirely based on the Bulgarian language, with the same cases and structure, it has always been much different than Serbian, even after it was Serbified in 1945. If we want to talk about "Great Serbia" during the rule of Tsar Dushan. We can look at the facts, the fact is he was 3/4 Bulgarian royal lineage, and he was married to a Bulgarian princess Helena. This is the only reason he was able to create a powerful Serbian Empire, which basically just collapsed the entire Balkan region, weakening it, lasting for only 10-15 years... and then the Ottomans swoop in to take the spoils. Bulgarian Empires have lasted for 3-4 centuries between the first and second. Serbia has been a vassal state of Bulgaria and Byzantines for a majority of its existence. Not saying this to be provocative, I am only saying it to give some perspective. Ohrid was the second capital of the First Bulgarian empire, well before Serbia occupied Macedonia and established its own capital briefly. Ohrid is the crowning jewel of Bulgarian Culture, it is the throne of Tsar Samuil - it is rightfully Bulgarian in all aspects. As for North Macedonia today in 2021, Bulgaria has no aspirations to take over territories, we also can't even if we wanted to... The only thing we want is an objective view of North Macedonian history, and a revision of their history books which was heavily influenced by Serbian/Titoist/Yugoslav propaganda and anti-Bulgarian rhetoric. Once, they remove all the propaganda, falsifications, and hatred from their history, Bulgaria and North Macedonia have no problems. The problem with North Macedonia and Bulgaria is identical to NM and Greece... it is about history and culture + language.

[@markosamardzic8718]

Here is something for Serbians and our neighbours Bulgarians: watch this for Macedonia, today N. Macedonia: * kzbin.info/www/bejne/imqncqiti8aAgZY * 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqfRoHito6ehr6M 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZKaYmiKnph_ZpY 3. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3S2p6efa6yhmbM (brsjaci and mijaci) 4. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6bVZHaAaJyhoMk (shops - shopi) 5. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJi1qqaAbpJ7g5Y (serbs from Gallipoli) 6. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooXaoGiwbtBkp6c (thracia) *7. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmeQi55sfZd0eMk (about language) this is for Greece (Hellas), without subtitle: three episodes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3nViYKQZ7KWZ8k

[@gaja9092]

@throwaway 778 serbs are bulgarians? Or macedonians?

[@dayanbalevski4446]

@@gaja9092 Serbs are serbs.

[@gaja9092]

@@dayanbalevski4446 ok but i thought that @throwaway 778 was saying serbs are bulgarians, sorry.

[@stefanmirkovic6681]

Makedonski je sličniji srpsko-hrvatskom jeziku

[@plonss]

As a historian of Ottoman history and frequent visitor of all Balkan countries, which I all like, I watched this interesting and commendable video with great interest. I only wondered what Macedonians make of it.

[@HeroManNick132]

''Macedonians'' you mean wannable Macedonians?

[@plonss]

@@HeroManNick132 I mean inhabitants of North Macedonia

[@HeroManNick132]

@@plonss Not all of them are ''Macedonians.''

[@plonss]

@@HeroManNick132 I am ware of that. A majority is however.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@plonss Only 54%.

[@danielkolev9270]

Great Video. Some time Ago, Someone told me that we ( Bulgaria and Serbia ) are the same Shit, split in two by the wheel of history and time !

[@alexander1498]

Yes, very accurate video. Thank you!

[@yavor70]

In 1941 the Bulgarian army did not take part in the invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece. The invasion was done by the German, Italian and Hungarian forces. Bulgaria took part in the administration of parts of Vardar Macedonia and Western Thrace.

[@milostomic8539]

Bulgarian army took part in 1915 attack on Serbia with Austrohungarian and German troops.

[@mcsroom8930]

1:01 talking about the 1850 while showing one from the 1940s good job

[@bjornfinkelburgensteinski4629]

Funny how Macedonia has become hella Albanian in the meantime and is neither Serb nor Bulgar.

[@mixapcpro9164]

So true Balkan Game Of Thrones 😂

[@hellfruit5612]

It hasn't, Albanians always claim 10% more than what they actually are and given the unstable situation, some people believe it

[@radomirratkovic9014]

@@hellfruit5612 There are many Muslim Slavic groups that are getting albanised,also Muslim gypsies.. Sa vjerom U Boga I Krst casni ! Samo Neka Mira bude

[@hellfruit5612]

@@radomirratkovic9014 Македонци муслимани не се проблем. Но ако се албанизирани како речиш тогаш е проблем.

[@radomirratkovic9014]

@@hellfruit5612 depends what kind of the teacher is in medressa..ja I Svi moji sambuz Vas kad I Ako zatreba a nadam se da nece trebati

[@Ggeorgiev89]

As a Bulgarian from the West of the country i have the warmest feelings towards Serbia. I also just received my DNA results today and found out i am Serbian/Bosnian/Croat (Rimanian, Greek) 😁

[@kernobil8162]

Could you do a Croatian History vid?

[@hatsuhioki9361]

a what

[@АлександарСергеј]

What history?! The only history you have is about NDH!

[@kernobil8162]

Thats still history, all bad things and all good things. Im proud to be a Croat but can still hate what we were before. So it would be awesome for a fellow balkaner to make a vid about Croatia.

[@kernobil8162]

@@hatsuhioki9361 why are yall so pressed tf

[@kernobil8162]

@@bungusscrungus9100 nisam vamo za svadju i govoriti ko je glup ko nije. Ne smatram srbe i hrvate bracom. Ali ne smatram nas ni najgorim neprijateljima. No moramo se tolerirat...

[@ГЕОРГИСТАВРЕВ-ж2о]

This video is true to the last word ! Congrats!!!

[@youtubeaccount0168]

Bulgaria and Serbia should stop this bs and unite. We both have been countries in the Balkans for centuries and have very similar language and culture. We have 1 reason to argue and hundreds of reasons to unite

[@HeroManNick132]

This only will happen if Serbia recognises Kosovo as country and cut ties with Russia. But due to the severe corruption of Serbia this process is too slow. It has too much work for the EU and even more for Schengen.

[@roatskm2337]

As a Bulgarian, who's having both Bulgarian and Serbian relatives living in Serbia, I can't imagine be enemies with them, because we have so much in common that the animosity among some of us about history should be finally over... I can assure you that less than 5℅ of all Bulgarian people are having negative vibes, I know it's the same in Serbia, though maybe some Eastern Serbs are hating us bcs of our militaries there... If there are any Eastern Serbs (Nis, Pirot, Zajecar, Vranje etc.) hope you don't hate us, bcs we are sorry about our actions... Moramo da se poštujemo i podrzavamo, nego svadjamo stalno... Pozdrav kod svih srba! :)

[@draganmarkovic491]

As a Serb living in the north of Serbia I would agree that there is no significant tensions and that most people have friendly views towards Bulgarians. But with Bulgaria indiscriminate support and siding with the west there is not much room for state to state cooperation. Bulgaria was first country to recognize Bosnia, and sided against Serbia in every geopolitical crossroad we had, Bulgaria also recognizes and supports Kosovo independence. There were problems with South Stream or the latest Bulgarian ban for Russian foreign minister to visit Serbia. I believe and I hope that those aren't majority's views in Bulgaria but Bulgarian state showed very little sovereignty in it's foreign policy and as long as Bulgaria is that way our mutual interests and potential for cooperation won't be fulfilled.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@draganmarkovic491 You realise that all of your Ex-Yugoslav members, including your bros the Montenegrins recognise Kosovo too, right? Also no offence but how come Kosovo is Serbian if 9/10 people there are Albanians? Sure I see you still hate the Albanians but remember what you did when you took Macedonia from us. You literally had to call the Greeks and Romanians to help you and you successfully gained it and made it Anti-Bulgarian like because you were backstabbers as usual. Also Bulgaria recognised North Macedonia's independence first when you were "busy" with the Bosniaks. But it is surprising how to this day you are still Lil Russia's puppet.

[@roatskm2337]

@@draganmarkovic491 Bratić, kažem ti puno iskreno da je običan bugarski narod ni mrzi Srbiju i srpski narod, pa ni se slaže sa tom šta ga rade naša prestupna američka vlada, naš narod mnogo voli i Srbiju, i Rusiju i njihovi narodi, pa naša vlada jednostavno je pod kontrolom Amerike i postavljena od njih da vrše samo što oni žele, niko u bugarskoj ne podržava ruske sankcije i neće biti sa zapadom, da si smenimo našu valutu "Lev" za jebeno "Euro", da imamo američkih baza u našoj teritoriji i se smanjimo sa 100 000 čovekama svake godine, to su problemi koji za naših političara nisu bitni, no naš narod nije kao njih, nismo ga ih izabrali, ćemo slobodu i budeti prijateljima sa svima, posebno sa vama kao susedi, nemamo razloga da vi mrzimo danas, a za kosova i Bosne to nije bilo našu odluku, nego naša tuđa vlada, koja rade šta hoće stalno protiv našim interesima i narodom, Bugari većinu znaju Kosovo pripada srbije, ja znam srpski da pričam dobro, razumem i hrvatski i ruski, kulturno i po mentalitetom smo isti, iz našeg kraja nema mržnje prema nikog i moramo da ne se svađati, pa budemo bliži i rešimo probleme koji su opasni za nas, demografija, edukacija, siromaštvo i tako dalje... Želim tebi srećan dan i izvini ako ima neke greške sa padežima i gramatikom (koristiti infinitiv glagola), nadam se da imaš lep dan i uvek da ćeš se osmehnuti često, uskoro će posetim Srbiju, Beograd, Niš, Subotica, Užice i svugde, sa srećom od mene! 🇧🇬❤️🇷🇸👍

[@draganmarkovic491]

@@roatskm2337 Pa i ja odprilike tako shvatam politicku situaciju u Bugarskoj, zato i kazem da je neka velika bliskost izmedju drzava tesko zamisliva, ali da su stavovi prema Bugarima kao narodu uglavnom blagonakloni. I pomalo sa zaloscu se gleda na to sto je tesko zamisliva neka strateska saradnja nase dve drzave koji nemaju nekih neresenih odnosa i otvorenih pitanja a dele mnoge kulturne veze a i neke interese. Lep pozdrav bratko, sve najbolje zelim i tebi i svim Bugarima :D

[@thadayu5639]

@@draganmarkovic491 Нажалост ево буквално задњих неколико месеци се Србијом шири антибугарска пропаганда великом брзином. Каже се да су се Бугари у Првом светском рату одрекли православља, па поклали 200 000 српских цивила на зверски начин, а силовали исто толико Српкиња, итд. Питање је зашто се то ради, зашто се не проверавају ти подаци него се оптужује читав народ за злочине веће и од усташких?

[@nordkrom4270]

I don't see anything brotherly in Serbia. Period.

[@BanJanuka]

Nor should we. They moan "brate, brate" only when it's convenient. Give them a gun and some Western support, they will start "re-educating" local populations and declaring it was always serbian.

[@bunnyunicorn5209]

I love your chanel. You are a bold man. I love your bravery and honesty. Wish you much fortune. For the record, kid of Yugoslav parents who moved there from Bulgaria in the 1930s. So I know Balkans fun and racism and ostracism. So interesting for me as a third culture kid. Cheers from China

[@trisgilmour]

Very interesting 🤔