Who Should Elena Gilbert Have Ended Up With?

[@suprsparx]

I'm sorry, but in no world should this girl have ended up with a dude who raped and fed on one of her best friends, attacked her other best friend, turned her ex's sister, slept with and turned her birth mother, killed her brother RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER, and ultimately couldn't stand who she was as a person. Not to mention Damon's transference of feelings from Katherine to Elena was such an ick and he tried to force himself on her. I don't want to hear shit about "think about their good scenes" because there weren't any. Elena was the absolute worst version of herself with Damon because being with him meant she was being completely selfish by ignoring every thing he'd done wrong to the point she's catching an attitude with her best friends whom are victims of his. Her relationship with Stefan wasn't perfect, but he at least encouraged her to to be the best sister, friend, and person she could be. He inspired her to keep on living when all she wanted to do was crawl in a hole and die. Damon just brought out how depraved she could be. It was hard to watch him dismantle this "heroine" and turn her into a version of Katherine that he could selfishly hold on to. They were horrible for each other. Period.

[@anishinaabae]

yeah, that's something that doesn't get brought up very often, the fact that damon was drawn to elena entirely because of his weird desire to re-live his failed relationship with katherine. whereas stefan was interested in elena because she was the antithesis to katherine! even after all of these years the scene that still sticks out in my mind is when damon had to rush stefan over in order to talk elena down and help her restore her humanity... you know a relationship must be rock solid when you need your brother aka your girl's ex-boyfriend to talk her down from the ledge. great writing!

[@chichichichilling4822]

The video even acknowledged this. She speaks for like an hour on the problems with her and Damon and then still chooses Damon because they "look" like they're in love. Opposite with Elena with Stefan. They don't "look" like they're in love and that's it. Not sure what the intent was with this video because it makes me disagree even more with her opinion.

[@thatonkgau5221]

14:01 The problem i have with Delena is the characterisation of Elena herself. In prior seasons she was a very kind, empathetic, selfless moral character who didn't hesitate to call Damon out on his shit. But after they started dating she stopped holding him accountable and kept making excuses and enabling him. Damon KILLED TYLER one of Elena's friends she's known since childhood and she just sweeps it under the rug and forgives. 22:44 YESSS, that's the biggest problem with Damon as a character he isn't hold accountable for his actions. Especially for what he did to Caroline and Andy he compelled them into being his little love slaves. He brainwashed them so he could use them either as a means to an end or as entertainment. He verbally, emotionally and physically abused these women. Since they were under compelsion and didn't have free will to consent Damon also sexualy assaulted and R#ped them. Damon is a serial murderer,abuser and r@pist and where supposed to believe he's the best man for her.

[@randomgeekcrap]

The summer they ended together he killed a whole family and Elena tired to jusfy it to the only survivor

[@san6984]

@@randomgeekcrap and when they got katherine out of her body and she came back to she completely just ignored and let go of the fact that damon killed aaron after she was hallucinating and crying the entire time about how she thought she killed him when possessed by kath. they completely just butcher her character in order to justify her relationship with damon and its so sad and sick

[@briannalee1998]

Exactly and the writers have the audacity to try to say he was a better man than Stefan. Disgusting.

[@adelaideas]

Elena remained a kind, empathetic, and selfless character who called him out on things--you all just cherry pick which moments to support this idea that she changed so suddenly because you didn't like who she was with. The fact that this happens in so many fandoms when the love triangle switches is just, lol. Typical.

[@san6984]

@ you’re lying rn, bc she literally does not call Damon out and esp not to the degree of which she would when they weren’t dating. Damon killed Aaron, she spent an entire day hallucinating and going out of her mind bc she thought she had killed him when Katherine took over her body, she was completely distraught and as soon as she’s healed & it’s revealed to her Damon killed him not her she argues with him for a bit, excuses his actions with “because i love you” didn’t even address the fact that he almost killed her brother AGAIN bc “she” rejected him & had sex. That’s literally how a lot of their issues got handled esp between s4 & 5. Arguments & sex as a “solution”. S6 is the only season she’s dating Damon and has that grit & attitude that human elena had when damon would do fucked up shit & that’s mainly bc she got her good memories of him taken away & wasn’t blinded by love & s6 is Delena at its most beautiful, best and healthiest & even then again it’s bc Elena basically took off her rose colored glasses. It’s lazy as hell to say the critiques are just simply bc folks don’t like that she ended up with Damon instead of Stefan.

[@BenjiXAddictX4Ever]

It should have followed the Original Books Endgame, back in 1992. Damon accepted Stelena and left town.

[@mimismsx]

100% - Damon was better off with Bonnie. I love Serena, but this is one video I will never agree with her on since Delena were such a bore fest for me LOL. I got the point where I skipped their scenes after s3 because I was bored out of my mind with their toxic mess. LOL

[@not-a-ghost2206]

​@@mimismsxthough I also loved the bamon friendship. It was the only relationship on that show that was purely platonic and we needed that. Damon shouldn't have gotten anybody. He was even more a creep than Stefan, I don't know why people forget this. 😅

[@BenjiXAddictX4Ever]

@@mimismsx Stelena and Bamon were absolute perfection!

[@Nagchampa765]

I’m still sooooo mad that Bonnie and Damon didn’t end up together

[@Ella24-007]

No that’s only the first books in the revival books she chose Damon

[@ivyfromthestars]

I pray I get someone like Stefan. I want somebody who is not going to be with me for the chemistry. Or because he couldn't get with my sister, or because I am a good girl... No. I want somebody who respects my choices and loves me in a healthy, selfless way. Basically, a lover and a best friend

[@briannalee1998]

She should’ve ended up with Stefan. Their relationship was much healthier. They communicated and had mutual respect and supported each other. Damon always tried to control her and she had to bend her morals for him.

[@Joana-hn8rk]

No, it was Damon or with another one. After elena became a vampire, she changed, so what she needed or wanted from a partner also changed.

[@Outlawgirl1297]

They ended up together in the books .

[@angelaholmes8888]

I much prefer stefan and elena together because stefan to me was such a good boyfriend for elena 💚💚💚

[@SerenaSkybourne]

He was such a sweet bf

[@xwinwinwinx]

I agree for when Elena was human but he didn't like her as much when she was a vampire. Wheras Damon helped her embrace her transition and the person she changed into because parts of her personality were heightened when she changed. Or at least that was the narrative the show went with to break them up lol and get Damon and Elena together. 😅

[@xwinwinwinx]

I heard that Julie Plec (show runner) had plans for Stefan and Elena to get back together in later seasons until Nina didn't renew her contract and announced season 6 was her last as Elena. So Julie was kinda forced into sticking with Damon and Elena.

[@xxxxSOSEXYxxxx]

@@xwinwinwinxStefan would have loved her either way, but Stefan knew she never wanted to become a vampire plus he desired to break the sire bond between her and Damon which is totally understandable. If the sire bond got broken though and she decided to remain a vampire, I fully believe he would have adored her no matter what. I mean, the writers even had him talk about Elena to Lexi after he died in the finale. Like, bruh you just got married. No love for Caroline? 😂

[@briannalee1998]

Omg yes! And they were so hot together while being a healthy relationship while Delena was not.

[@j04370859]

I don't care if Stefan was boring. He was far less toxic than Damon and was a far better boyfriend.

[@anishinaabae]

elena was one of my favourite characters in the first few seasons, but i just couldn’t get behind her relationship with damon. i know this is a show about all kinds of ooky-spooky creatures who have very skewed morals at best, but it just didn’t make narrative sense for elena to love her brother so dearly and then turn around and fall for a character that murdered jeremy in retaliation to her denying his sexual advances. vampire or not, that’s some incel behaviour of the highest degree! honestly the minute the show decided to pair the two and put everything into propping up the delena relationship is when the writing quality really took a nosedive. by the time jeremy died for good and elena had that heartbreaking scene where she became hysterical with the grief of losing her last remaining family member, i just felt insulted as a viewer. don’t try to sell the audience on elena’s undying devotion to her baby brother if you’re just going to pair her up with the man who violently snapped his neck to punish elena, my suspension of disbelief ends there.

[@stephaniepage4334]

Mine too

[@loveatfirstglow24]

@@anishinaabae very good points. I hate every single thing about season 4

[@Anna-B]

I’m team Stelena. I don’t think they’re perfect (the arc went so quickly, they need to think of a way to keep it going without backtracking), but I don’t think Elena and Damon are good for each other. It’s fun sometimes, but not endgame

[@selenarodgers5667]

Agree

[@PetraP01]

Yeah, I think the reason Stelena seems boring compared to Delena is cause Damon and Elena have that toxic explosive relationship, where they cycle through fightings and making up, which makes it fairly fun to watch and the making up part is electrifying and exciting and hot. Stefan and Elena are not like that, they're not perfect, but they're much healthier together, it's just that healthy relationships don't make for an exciting TV. They had enough chemistry together, they just don't have the fiery hot make up making out like Delena.

[@ivyfromthestars]

@@PetraP01 Yeah, Delena is like Fast Food, overstimulating, addictive. While Stelena was like a healthy salad, light and easy-going.

[@sweetxjc]

@@PetraP01healthy couples can definitely be more interesting than toxic ones it’s just not all writers know how to write interesting conflicts for characters that doesn’t have some form of yelling.

[@tana3875]

And if I say Elijah will I get shot 😂 any of the Nina Dobrev characters I don’t care. Their chemistry was ✨

[@Nagchampa765]

YESSS

[@michanone]

Now THAT is a thought! Her kiss with him when he thought she was Katherine...😚 Wanted a bit more of that. But at the end of the day I saw him more like he was too old. Not age wise, but life wise. He was very precise with what he wanted, how to go about life. And Elena wasn't even out of school and said "I don't know what I want". She needed so much time to grow and mature, IMO. But I totally get it. With a slightly different writing after they met..why not? :) It was possible.

[@stephaniepage4334]

It would be great if elena daughter Stephanie salvatore end up with Elijah nephew nik jr if Elijah is biological uncle of nik jr?

[@javierlopez9789]

Imagine being Elijah and being cursed with elena as your partner when Hayley is right there, their relationship would be Elijah saving Elena's useless ass 24/7

[@Taewills]

I think Elijah would’ve kept harkening back unhealthily to Tatia. I’m not entirely sure he compartmentalized them all & loved Katherine for who she actually was as opposed to who / what she represented. Redemption for killing his 1st love. Don’t get me wrong, when they spoke closely & made deals, I felt that spark too! Tbh the respect Elijah & Stefan showed Elena was the sexiest thing about them.

[@Esh486]

Had Jeremy not been wearing that ring when Damon killed him....

[@suprsparx]

And people still would've shipped for superficial reasons.

[@Jessica-wo6px]

Yep😳😬

[@queenloiskosher6119]

The only good thing Delena had was a strong sexual chemistry and younger teenagers bought into the whole bad boy who is only good to me/for me, but then you grow up and realize it’s nonsense and dangerous even. Damon was controlling under the guise of “protective”. Damon was far better with Bonnie because I felt like they had the heat and chemistry, but more than that, he genuinely became better for her, he truly respected her. All the things the writers were gaslighting us to believe about Delena, I saw in Bamon. Stefan would’ve been good with Elena because he actually respected her, he liked her, he was protective and sacrificial but not controlling of her. Also I enjoyed the Delena angst before they got together, they fizzled out so quickly and had too many off and ons to a tiring point when they actually became a couple. That scene where Elena asks Damon what he and Bonnie were doing in the prison world and Damon longingly tells her they were bickering and talking and when not talking, listening to each other and he’d do anything to see her and hear her voice again should’ve been their moment of realization that Damon had slowly fallen for Bonnie. Like she snuck up on him and he can’t seem to let her go. Elena already had her memory wiped of Damon and it should’ve been Damon’s healing and humility arc where he’s not stuck on his dysfunctional relationship with Petrova women anymore. They really should’ve fleshed out stelena’s romance more. With them I saw actual romance and happiness and the settled not too problematic chaos and drama that comes with Delena. Or heck Elena should’ve ended up with Matt (sad they flanderized him. Matt loved her deeply romantically and as a friend and he was so brave considering he was dealing with supernaturals and he held his own against them). Matt would do pretty much anything for Elena.

[@jfrancis6191]

Totally agree! Damon should have been with Bonnie!

[@noneyobiz973]

i agree! i first watched the show when i was a teenager and was all about damon, but rewatching it now in my mid twenties i wish she stuck with stefan. he was the better man.

[@marig9236]

Id pick stefan for me. I want the kind man.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

me too

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Stefan isn't as interesting narratively, but in real life he'd be the best bf

[@thaboiinblue]

I LOOOOOOOOOOVED Damon with Rose!!! He was SO sweet with her! It was so pure and genuine! RIP Rose. ❤

[@HartCodeZachary]

I personally think that the many retcons later is what just made everything so messy-er. The writers could've just had Elena choose Damon at the end of season 3, and have the following season being everyone in that new dynamic and getting the awkwardness out. Stefan could have left and the show would have brought him back later and had him and Elena slowly be friends and having him fully rebuild his relationship with Damon as brothers.

[@Jessica-wo6px]

That would have been better than the sire bond. Hated that arc so so much🙄😠

[@yashleywuzhere]

stefan and elana ate!! her and damon only had sexual chemistry bc of the actors..

[@evelynflickinger5351]

This is a great distraction for election night panic. So excited to watch this video, love your commentary and TVD

[@SerenaSkybourne]

We all need a good distraction sometimes during this period especially xx

[@kjgfdsa3577]

I didn't finish the show and I haven't finished the video, but I've watched enough content about the vampire diaries to know that Damon should have ended up with Bonnie.

[@stephaniepage4334]

It would be great if damon son end up with bonnie daughter if she has kids after enzo death?

[@heirsoleil]

the correct answer

[@Sims3Timeout]

Also I feel like Damon and Bonnie had great chemistry in the show. Would’ve been interesting if they had explored their relationship more.

[@AliceInsanity]

@@Sims3Timeout Not just in the show, in the books, too. Though Bonnie was extremely different in the books...

[@thaboiinblue]

It absolutely deserved to be explored. In YA shows everyone hooks up with everyone at some point, but Bonnie and Damon was just… off limits. Interesting. Also fascinating was how in seasons 7-8 every time Damon expressed any love or affection for Bonnie it HAD to be undercut with “because of Elena” or mentioning Elena in some way. I get being loyal… but COME ON!!! The DRAMA that would have ensued! Judgy, HEROIC Bonnie goes for DAMON?!? Witches who are one with nature with a vampire (THE vampire of the franchise) who is the perversion of both magic and nature… It would have been JUICY!!!

[@ericanair9144]

21:09 I think a lot of people forget that in the earlier episodes, Damon used to walk into Elena's room and just go through her underwear drawer. That was beyond creepy and disgusting. Damon r*ping Caroline and other women in town should've been a deal breaker for Elena. Stefan all the way!

[@anishinaabae]

not to mention murdering her brother before her very eyes just because she said no to his advances. if he wasn't wearing the ring, he would've been dead for good.

[@lxfj2128]

Saying Stefan didn't have chemistry with Elena is wrong . Remember Stefan calling her on her birthday or the first time they slept with eachother like ep 3

[@milchreis9554]

No no no, I need everyone to remember that the original endgame was actually Matt! Elena was meant to forget about the vampires and live a happy human life, with the brothers sacrificeing themselves together. The character conflict would've resolved and the story come full circle. That's what the writers intended setting off and I think handled right it could've worked great. If they hadn't butchered Matt's storylines like they did.

[@blackbird45]

Delena or the romanticization of a toxic abusive and codependent relationship. This relationship is a real shame.

[@nicematerial]

Indeed. Let's talk about what's REALLY important today 😂

[@SerenaSkybourne]

HAHAHAHA this is a majorly pressing issue

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I couldn't miss my regular Tuesday uploads ):

[@nicematerial]

@@SerenaSkybourne 🤣

[@dionysisnance4204]

I grew up watching the vampire diaries and I remember crying when elena and damon had their last dance, that lives rent free in my mind.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Omg me too

[@yuelina.x]

When I was a teenager I liked Delena. Now I'm 28 and I'm like STEFAN ALL THE WAY. Stefan isn't a saint either obviously (and its explained well that he struggles with his dark side and hates it), but damn, Damon is soooo fucking toxic, half the people who die or get hurt or end up in trouble is because he does horrible things without thinking about the aftermath. The amount of people he killed and no one cares, but when Stefan, Caroline or anyone else does it people can't believe it. Stefan and other characters are demonized while Damon gets away with everything, on top of being way older, (even when they weren't vampires) and pursuing minors. Predator. People HATE Ezra from PLL, but Damon gets away with it cause he looks good. Even his actor hates it. Damon could kill several childs and people wouldn't care. And the fact Elena ends up with him is disgusting, girl the amount of times he hurt you, your family members (literally killed her brother and threatens people you love all the time) and other people is insane. But oh well, as long as he looks good I guess, go girly. I still love Damon as a character tho, he is hilarious

[@hydeqyzy]

I don’t care how much “chemistry” they had (I also never saw chemistry between them). their relationship were always only physical and sexual, that’s it. why they would be better a couple if they were toxic and abusive.

[@delenas]

i think people mistake *just* tension for sexual tension sometimes. in scenes where elena looks legitimately afraid of damon, people are like omggggg the chemistry 😍 lmao

[@midnightfox3157]

I’ve always been a stelena fan bcuz while yes both Stefan and Damon had good and bad moments I feel like Stefan had more good moments like when he respected her choices and decisions when demon would always undermine it and while yea at the end of the day he kept her safe but he wasn’t respecting her and her own agency and like you said in the video he was never held accountable for so many of his actions like killing Jeremy just because Elena didn’t reciprocate his feelings and even after that when Elena was mad at him it was treated like a joke like oh your giving me the silent treatment well your get over it eventually and I don’t like that bcuz to be with someone is to love them but also call them out on the shit when they need to be not try to find a way to justify everything they do

[@motaku220]

should’ve been Stefan

[@selenarodgers5667]

Agree, through & through

[@stephaniepage4334]

If stefan was keep alive would he end up with human elena?

[@oliviatocali]

The romanticization people have of Delena from the start of S1 is misguided. Damon groomed Elena, if you watch the show carefully. Through his behaviour, suggestive language, going through her drawers that kept her bras/underwear, acting like he understood her (like no one else), letting her drink alcohol while underage, normalizing wrong things etc. He didn't care for her from the beginning. Damon was in love with Katherine and liked to mess with Stefan. Damon was somewhat surprised by Elena, yes. But he was willing to kill/murder her. He only became interested the moment he found out Katherine didn't care about him. Damon also abandoned, broke up with and mistreated Elena countless times, despite people trying to pin that on Stefan. At least Stefan had legitimate reasons. Damon abandoned Elena on a dangerous island and turned his back when she wanted to talk about the cure. He also broke up with her for no reason in Season 5. And don't give me that crock about him being in pain. Grow up. What a lot of people miss is that Stelena actually had much more adventure than Delena ever did. Going on rooftops, hiking to the top of hills, riding motorcycles, them against the world, etc. If this was written as a book, people would see that come through more. Instead they are mesmerized by the onscreen fighting and chemistry of Delena which would have been like beating a dead horse if reading it instead of watching. Delena ended up living the most boring life, which completely went against Damon's character, but it was just convenient writing and a 180. Yet they claim Stefan/Stelena was boring. Hilarious. I am not pro Stelena necessarily, but also it's puzzling how distracted we are by the visual format that we are missing the actual story and glossing over the facts.

[@kailynncovington3907]

Will you ever do The Originals and Legacies? I'm interested in hearing you talk about the Mikealsons and their relationships with one another. Ill share my thoughts on the Mikealsons and Legacies. Something that I felt no one noticed is that Klaus's relationship with his siblings is abusive (and in relation to Rebekah and Elijah,) codependent. They fear him and love him and can't seem to leave him and when they try, they're punished. It's an abusive relationship. But of course it isn't that cut and dry. They all hurt and betray each other. When you think one sibling is worse we learn something else and baam! Another one takes their place. Rebekah was also pretty interesting. On the one hand, she's fierce and independent, and on the other hand, a hopeless romantic who continues to date people who aren't good for her and can be quite vulnerable. When she first appeared she was quite childish, quick-tempered, impulsive, and had a cruelty to her that she shared with Klaus. But over the course of TVD she quickly matured, resembling more of an adult (kinda wild that wasn't the case originally, but whatevs.) I remember a scene in the originals where she sold out her brother Kol to Klaus and watched in glee as he was staked. I like Elijah's character (generally.) He feels like an ancient vampire. He's collected, intelligent, and quite cunning with a flexible morality, but he's also loyal (to a fault,) and keeps to his word, unless it involves his family. Then his moral ambiguity starts to rear its head. It makes sense. He's willing to sacrifice so much for his family. Why not his word? Freya is a lot like him as well. Kol...Kol is a lot like Damon, Kai, Klaus (she really just copy pasted Damon, added some new stuff here and there and Boom! Klaus. She did the same Kai and to a lesser extent Kol.) Kol consistently treated love interest right and he rightly didn't want anything to do with Klaus and his siblings to a lesser exrent. He actually saw the abuse for what it was. He also (from my memory,) had a certain level of respect towards witches and magic that vampires tend to lack. Three things all the Mikealsons have in common. Ruthlessness, Loyalty (at the end of the day), and a soft spot for romance. Hope in many ways is the best of them all. But she also reminds me a lot of Elena, but if she had powers and was allowed to be fierce when necessary. She and Elena both lost so many people and both had survivor's guilt. I just think Hope was a better portrayal. I like tvd, but I would've loved it, it it allowed its main characters to be unapologetically morally ambiguous. I guess to me, it makes sense for vampires to be. It would've been great as a dark romance. I also wish Elena wasn't as powerless as she was in the show. She was the strongest in the books! (According to the fandom page.) I also wish writers would've known where they were taking this and would've taken more inspiration from the books. In particular with the supernatural creatures. Legacies in my mind have healthier relationships and a clearer understanding of mental health. And the unhealthy ones are depicted as such (minus one. Glaring. Couple.) Some of the characters aren't as complex as they could be, but I still like them. Alaric's character is dragged through the mud though, but I choose to look at it from the angle that hey. Sometimes people come out on the wrong end after numerous traumatic events, so it kinda makes sense. But I still was disappointed with it. It's much more fantastical and rules are broken and bended to fit the plot like always. So yeah. What you would kinda expect. There is this play episode that makes me think at least the writers are self-aware to SOME extent.....but continue making the same mistakes.

[@stephaniepage4334]

Will there be another spin-off because Julie revealed that she team are definitely work on new spinoff based on legacies original tvd?

[@javierlopez9789]

Even though elena is bland at least she feels like an actual person, Hope feels too much like a fanfiction character, she is the daughter of two famous powerful characters, part of the most powerful family, is the only one of her kind, she is smart, rich, pretty, most powerful being in the universe, its just way too much, thats part of the reason her show didnt work, well that and the insufferable cast that had nothing on TVD and TO

[@Nagchampa765]

I’m team Elijah

[@stephaniepage4334]

Same it would be great if elena daughter Stephanie salvatore end up with Elijah nephew nik jr if Elijah is biological uncle of nik jr?

[@javierlopez9789]

Elijah is too good for her.

[@melissaisloud7404]

Elena always wanted to live a simple human life. I always felt that she should’ve ended up with Matt. He could’ve given her the exact life as she wanted. And Damon should have ended up with Bonnie.

[@Jessica-wo6px]

I agree. Being with Stefan or Damon just meant living a life she never really would have wanted

[@adilbougma3114]

I think you misunderstood elena, if elena want a happy life she could be with matt, but instead she break up with and want for stefan. Elena want an adventure and be free

[@mickcrump7799]

Thank you SO MUCH for pointing out the glaring issue that underlies both of the brothers’ relationships with Elena, which is and always will be Katherine!! Katherine taught them both how to love and throughout the show, most of the characters end up agreeing with many of Katherine’s observations about the love triangle and the Mystic Falls gang as a whole. In season 2, Katherine tells Stefan that he came to Mystic Falls to fall in love with her “all over again” via Elena and that was 100% true! Lexi even has an issue with it when she meets Elena in season one and Stefan tells her to not say a word and she doesn’t. However, in the season 4 finale, Lexi tells Stefan he’s had two epic loves in his life and that both of woman “shared the same face.” Stefan knew of Elena’s connection to Katherine and likely would never have told her if she had not found the hidden photo he had kept for 100 years, which is another point Katherine brings up to Stefan in season 2. Why did he hold on to her picture for 100 years if he never had any real feelings for her?? In season 6, Enzo’s plot may have been all over the place, but his points are valid! Why does Stefan always get a pass for his poor behavior and why does he always get to dictate who is a “good” vampire and why should others be shunned or killed for them doing the same things that Stefan has done throughout the show. Stefan swooped in during season 1 and made sure to direct the narrative with Elena and her friends regarding who is a good vampire and what makes someone not worth saving. Stefan controlled that narrative for the first 5 to 6 seasons and Enzo called him out on it after he abandoned everyone, lied to them all, and allowed Damon to believe he had killed the real Sarah Salvatore. Katherine was also right about Elena loving them both as she did, bc Elena admits it in season 6. She admits her evil doppelgänger was right, she could and did love them both at the same time. Caroline confirms it! Everything Katherine says to Damon immediately after she is made permanent in Elena’s body in season 5 to break up with him was absolutely true! Damon was toxic and it should never have been in Elena’s shoulders or conscious as to whether Damon could control his emotions and need to kill at all times! Damon and Stefan NEVER took accountability for their part in things and always blamed Katherine for who they were and the mistakes they made when they were human and after they became vampires. Katherine’s entire goodbye speech to each one of the group before her death in season 5 is the truth and that’s why it hits them all so hard! She knows them all better than they do and has ALWAYS called them out on their tendency to deny or blame others for their mistakes. Both brothers had ulterior motives with Elena that stemmed from their love for Katherine, which impacted their relationships with Elena and hurt her in ways that cannot be fixed. They saw Elena as their “do-over” or second chance with Katherine and it seeped into every aspect of their relationships with her. Plus Damon slept with her ancestor and her mother!! Thank you for bringing this point up as I get torn apart for even mentioning it!!

[@kellybellypumpkinjelly]

As per usual, Serena feeds us with the best, deep content we love from her!! Thanks Queen!🥰🫶

[@SerenaSkybourne]

🥰🥰

[@zoc.6922]

I started the show being neutral over Stelena but, Delena just had more chemistry. I just remember so many more Delena scenes. I couldn't see Elena going back to Stefan after turning into a vampire. The show implies that as a human, Elena loved Stefan because he got her out of her depression when parents died but (kind of like with Matt) she was afraid to admit she fell out of love. The quick turn around of Elena choosing Stefan on the bridge to later choosing Damon & then sire bond being revealed... it was a lot. I feel like instead of the Sire Bond, they could have said Elena couldn't lie about how she felt anymore because being a vampire heightens your emotions. Maybe the writers wanted to leave the door open for Elena and Stefan to get back together but, it was such a weird way to do it.

[@stephaniepage4334]

Will delena have biological grandchildren at end of tvd ending when delena died of old age if Stephanie salvatore has kids?

[@vashtinayagar1325]

@@stephaniepage4334well yeah

[@yuelina.x]

I agree with so much you are saying. Great video. I have to say I don't think Stelena was boring. It just seemed boring compared to Delena, because the writers clearly were in love with them and Ian. They gave so much more time to them vs Stelena. Stefan is just more like an intovert, and that's fine. And Delena honestly isn't much more interesting either, as I said, I just think the writers had this weird obsession with Ian and it seems like Delena are just very sexually attracted to each other, which I guess is more enterntaining to watch than a more "normal" and slow relationship like Stelena. Like some other commenters already said, I agree that Stefan seemed to be genuinely interested in her and like her and all that, and Damon and Elena just have sexual tension, party because Damon was always obsessed with Katherine. Katherine manipulated Stefan to like her in the past.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Yes I agree, the writers obviously had this weird obsession with Damon so they never really gave Stefan and Elena a chance to be something more

[@melanienszkz]

I think if Damon was played by another actor people would’ve hold him accountable. Ian is an amazing actor, it’s his character and he made him good, as an audience we wanted him to be good.

[@knight2002]

Haven’t started the vid yet, but yes!! I’ve been waiting for another TVD video from you. I literally rewatched the first 5 seasons once I saw your first TVD video came out 😂❤

[@SerenaSkybourne]

hiii my besties!

[@BenjiXAddictX4Ever]

Hiiii I love your outfits!

[@mollyryann7858]

Hiiii! Love you're videos 🫶❤

[@SerenaSkybourne]

@@BenjiXAddictX4Everthankyou 🥹

[@alexwallar8608]

Love you Serena 😊

[@matheusromao6907]

Guys, just wanted to preface my argument with I am a clinical psychologist, specialized in IPV (intimate partner violence), and I watched TVD for the first time when I was about 15, and I was team Stefan ever since then. Damon and Elena have one of the most abusive relationships I've ever seen in any tv show. I'm gonna sort of quote something that summarizes my problem it. In one episode of season 3, Rose is talking to Jeremy about the 2 in the car, and she says something like "stefan is the best choice, but damon... he's different he challenges her, she's either at her worst with him or at her best" something like that. And holy god, this is so non-sensical hahaha. I think the worst thing for me is, the breaking up and getting back together over and over and over again. Damon himself says how selfish he is so many times, and all of a sudden she's like omg i love you so much (I know they justify it with her being sired to Damon) but come on... It honestly hurts to see, because they're so self destructive to each other all the time, but then they go on a high have sex and everything is good. You see, even the description sounds strange isolated. I'm not saying Damon doesn't deserve a redemption, or that his character didn't evolve throughout the show. But the relationship that's shown to us is so much worse than Elena's relationship with Stefan. It always irked me the wrong way. I remember when I was a teenager, and when I realized that they decided Elena was gonna end up with Damon I was so broken hahahaha. But yeah, there an Essay to be written why Elena and Damon are much more bad than they're good to each other. My biggest problem with all this, and my final point (i know this is long I'm so sorry) is the message that the shows passes to the audience. Go girls, go be with the bad boy toy know is bad for you and breaks your heart every now and then, it's okay, it will workout in the end, they have so much chemestry. Seriously, this hurts my heart, and unfortunately many people think like this.

[@bananapeelnr1]

15:36 I absolutely love how you pointed out unhealthy and bad role modeling to young audiences encouraging to go for toxic abusive relationships in real life. Romanticizing and glorifying it is a sickening trend in new adult books and movies/shows. While I also enjoy reading/watching these, young people can fail to separate it from real life and project it onto themselves.

[@Saraht4]

Do a video on Katherine please! Love her character! She was a woman who knew her worth! Even tho the writers started to ruin her a bit, she still remains my fav character from TVD

[@gradis13]

My vote is with Rebeka

[@Sthuthukile]

I used to give Elena a lot of crap, but looking back I realized that she was a vulnerable and grieving teenager who should have had a normal life instead of being thrown into the chaos of vampires. Stefan never should have interfered with her life. I really think she would have healed and became well-adjusted after some time. Instead, she jumped into a relationship with an immortal cause he made her feel "alive again". She even says herself that she loved Stefan cause she just knew he would love her forever and would never die like her parents. If you watch the show carefully, Elena never properly healed from her parents death...she just tempered her grief with Stefan and then Damon. She believes she's the cause of everything that goes wrong, she always wants to sacrifice herself when everyone is in danger and she wants to control everything cause of her trauma. Stefan and Damon actually ruined her life, and that's what I think. (It made for great television though)

[@winniedahbarbie]

OMGGG BEEN WAITING FOR THIS GURLL WOO🎉!!

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Love you!!

[@winniedahbarbie]

@@SerenaSkybourne Love youuu gurlll❤️💋

[@lizziem03]

I was & always will be team Stefan ❤️

[@ivyfromthestars]

Love IS NEVER territorial; territorial means controlling! Love gives you freedom, ALWAYS.

[@rachel_ellingson]

We all agree STEFAN… I mean realistically neither of them… maybe Elijah. But team Stelana 100% I love a hot bad boy and Damon is so fun … but end game should’ve been Stefan

[@loveatfirstglow24]

Hello, we all watched The Vampire Diaries and Pretty Little Liars at the same time. It amazes me that some fans hold Pretty Little Liars to a higher standard than The Vampire Diaries. Majority of The Vampire Diaries fans base roots for the most toxic couples, that even the Showrunners/writers say stuff would not be acceptable today. I repeatedly always come to the conclusion the fanbase is just toxic and the “HotGuy” gets away with everything

[@Taewills]

Honestly she should’ve been alone for at least a year. Dating from teen years through eternity w/out a fully developed brain explains why she scandalously flopped between 2 brothers! Why is no one else grossed out by the brother sharing theme in this show? (And The Originals) ugh Irl this would be completely unacceptable in most parts of society. 42:19 this convo about Dalana’s real life chemistry is ironic bc it wasn’t enough to keep them together irl either. This talk about Stefan being boring is so weird to me. He def wasn’t boring (or evil imo) in the first 4 seasons- I genuinely felt he was multifaceted in a good way but the writing for the whole show bored me. I didn’t tune in faithfully after S4. 50:45 as a poly person this is my problem with forced monogamy principles. It’s completely possible to love 2 ppl romantically at the same time AND feel satisfied. Because fulfillment isn’t something one gets from another person it comes from within. So falling for someone else whilst in a relationship doesn’t negate the bond you have with person #1.

[@annabin]

Yeah and no time gap between them. She just switched beds immediately after breaking up with Stephan. So disrispectful.

[@oliviatocali]

Damon admitted himself that he didn't know Elena was the one for him until the S5 finale! He abandoned her several times and refused to even discuss the cure. They retconned his character and the story because of loud fans of the pairing. It was like all the previous seasons character development and story didn't exist. Damon has done dozens of things against Elena, her family and friends. Yet the bridge moment is brought up constantly between Stefan and Elena. That is all people have and it's pathetic. Damon forcibly did traumatic things to Elena many many times. Delena had like two romantic "moments". Their whole relationship was fighting, sex and competition with Stefan. "Tension" doesn't qualify as a moment. It took until Season 6 for the writers to do a couple weak "flashbacks" of a date they had and one kiss in the rain. If the actors playing the brothers swapped places, I am sure people would find Paul Wesley as Damon cringy. Because the character is cringy and predictable. People don't look past appearance. Damon was wayyy more interesting away from Elena.

[@diyah4580]

Steffen wasn't compelled to love katherine, only to not be afraid of her.i also always took it as katherine and elena are the same person. Each are a copy of the original in all ways, but upbringing and experiences make them who they are. Nature is the same, the nurture was different

[@jewelcool2458]

Yea you can definitely see more and more as the show goes on that Elena has that same selfishness as Katherine, it just is presented in different ways due to how she grew up/the image she has of herself. (i.e Elena is blind to her selfishness)

[@Jessica-wo6px]

Oh please. Katherine is no better than Damon. Damon compelled Caroline the way Katherine compelled Stefan and we don't mind calling him a SAer. She should be called a SAer too. Katherine is just as bad as Damon but fans constantly excuse her

[@jelenajanuszko3857]

Oh man, someone FINALLY addressed it! As an adult now myself, I agree with pretty much everything being said here, except maybe one thing. Even though my teenage Delena heart would strongly oppose this 😁 I see now that Elena and Damon was way too toxic and unhealthy, while Stefan was just too... absent I guess? Like he was there, and he was a super supportive boyfriend to Elena but he was just not really present in the relationship with his own feelings and expectations, thus making them together seem dull and boring. There were other characters that were bringing out way more personality out of him for sure, with Elena he was just too mellow and lifeless in my opinion. They were good as friends but not lovers. The one thing I don't agree with though is the lack of Stefan fighting for Elena being a bad thing. I think that some dose of involvement and passion in a relationship is always needed for sure and it was definitely lacking in their relationship but when there are obvious feelings for someone else, then the fight is a bit pointless because you can't fight them away out of your partner. I truly get Stefan's approach of stepping back and letting Elena decide for herself. Cause what would be the point of him fighting for her if her feelings for Damon would turn out stronger anyway? I personally wouldn't want to be with someone who's also in love with someone else, no matter how much I'd love them myself. I think it was actually a sign of maturity and self-respect on his part to let Elena resolve her feelings herself instead of forcing her to choose him over his brother.

[@oliviatocali]

Stelena did not get together as boyfriend/girlfriend in 3 episodes. They were dating/only seeing each other.

[@oliviatocali]

The show was throwing everything at the wall to "legitimize" Delena by throwing in that ridiculous doppelganger destiny storyline. Elena should have ended up with Tom, Stefan's doppelganger paramedic person. Elena and him both would work in the medical field.

[@Mina-hm2og]

You contradict yourself. You spent almost an hour describing in detail why Damon was bad, but you end your video saying it's good she ended up with him because chemistry? And you are missing two points. One, that in YA media the bad boy and the toxic relationship are usually depicted as exciting whereas the good guy is boring, as if you cannot find excitement and passion in a healthy relationship. And getting rid of your inhibitions doesn't mean you also get rid of your morality. Secondly, why should Elena must pick one or the other? Why none of them? She didn't feel satisfied in her relationship with Stefan, OK, she moved on to Damon who she liked more, but that relationship didn't fulfill her either for different reasons, so she should have broken up with him and move on to another guy. She wasn't obligated to return to Stefan.

[@evelynflickinger5351]

Not related to TVD or the video but have you ever watched Buffy? If not I recommend watching it, even if you don't make any videos. It is my favorite vampire show!

[@etherealgalaxies6]

Honestly I root for neither lol. The whole love triangle thing bored me and reminded me of Twilight. Two men pining over an average white girl....(No offense towards Nina Dobrev but to me Bonnie is way more beautiful could just be me tho).What's even more frustrating is that Bonnie could've easily dated either one of them 🙄 So yeah, I checked out by like Season 3.

[@thatonkgau5221]

YESS, They should've had Elena end up with Stefan and Damon move on with Bonnie

[@бронза.вафля.конус]

HUH? In which realm is Nina Dobrev average? Be fucking for real. And what the hell does her skin colour have to do with anything? Kat is absolutely gorgeous but this comment is insulting to both women.

[@muniatshidibidikonda9233]

not just more beautiful she was more interesting as well and didn't lose her personality throughout the seasons (maybe bc she didn't become a vampire which she woul've disliked even more than human elena)

[@jess.1515]

Referring to Elena being more safe if she wasn’t with them I would have to disagree I think she would of been in the same or even more danger considering she’s a doppelgänger

[@delaneycornforth8405]

To be honest, I wouldn't pick either of these men for myself. Damon, for obvious reasons - I enjoy being immersed, but in reality if they wanted Damon to be as redeemable as they painted him, he went wayyy too damn far in his first couple of seasons for how they went about it to even slightly work. Stefan, however, while a genuinely nice guy a lot of the time and definitely kinder, is a NASTY guy when he's in his addiction, and the rest of the time totally gives me vibes of being the guy that put Elena on a pedastal and can't handle when she doesn't exactly match the person he has her as in his head. That's not much of a better long-term relationship outlook, it's just toxic in a different and less obvious way imo. (This is without watching the whole video yet btw!)

[@SerenaSkybourne]

@@delaneycornforth8405 I agree with you, in reality I wouldn’t pick either

[@Jessica-wo6px]

Excellent statement! Agree wholeheartedly

[@dianaszuts398]

This video is more than one hour??? :D God, I love you :D

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I do my besttt

[@dianaszuts398]

@@SerenaSkybourne 😊

[@TheCaroligne]

Elena was annoying! I wanted Damon with Bonnie, Caroline with Klaus and Stefan with Lexi...

[@sarahTVBOX]

haven't watched the video yet, but i wanna state my opinion... when the show started, i was team stelena, and still was team stelena even when damon entered the picture - then ripper stefan happened (whom i LOVE TO PIECES) and delena got closer & closer and it just did something to me to the point of being like "nah, team delena 4eva"... it also didn't help that they made stelena so fvcking BORING later on in the seasons. ARGUE WITH THE WALL 😆

[@Imrightyourewrongydktslid]

But also can we talk about the fact that he LEFT Elena with no words, no notice, nothing. This sent her on a summer long spree of trying to find him and bring him back. I also just got the vibes that Elena was just so pure as a human in Stefans eyes, but when she's vampire queen legend he says evil

[@AmberW28]

"He's not the guy you'd want for your boyfriend cause you cant trust him." Stephan always asked Elena what SHE wanted. What HER choice was. Even if it was saving Donovan under the river that day. He respected her autonomy and ability to choose death as a human right. Damon would just make choices that HE thought was right. He would kill and hurt people to protect his "doll." One was human fighting his demons, the other was a demon fighting his humanity.

[@jfrancis6191]

The great thing about TVD was that Elena was presented as the protagonist, yet she was so outlandishly toxic that she was like the covert villain of the show! I honestly loved it, and I think it was done on purpose. When your main character is pretending to be the good girl while constantly causing everyone around her anguish it makes for great entertainment! Her relationship with Damon is the best example of her gross hypocrisy. Julie Plec is brilliant.

[@tebogommitsinyane6211]

Okay here the thing I know the writers of the show focused way too much on sexual chemistry with delena and their relationship was her always policing him, I agree with most people when they say she should’ve stayed with Stefan. But my thing is I like when I’m tv shows characters break up because it gives us a chance to see what their like when their not in said relationship,this regarding stefan, in s3 that was the best season for him because he wasn’t chasing elena,imo he was better single and trying to figure himself out without her.Damon I liked with elana bcoz it allowed us to see a different side to him that he actually cares(yes the writing went south) about anyone rather then himself and Katherine . Those who say Damon and bonnie should’ve ended up together,I love Damon but they were better as friends and bonnie deserved someone who should’ve picked her first..All in all these two brothers should’ve both left these women alone and sorted their issues with eachother

[@Jessica-wo6px]

Yes they should have left the girls alone and repaired their relationship because both of them put Elena and her family and friends through heck and they lost a lot because of it. Elena should have been able to live a quiet human life the way she wanted

[@brandyloutherback9288]

Stefan didn't SA Caroline!

[@Jessica-wo6px]

It was Damon who SA Caroline

[@moondanak]

Oh I have so many opinions about this topic. First of all I feel like the main reason why I’m team Stefan is because of the simple fact that the first 3 season that are objectively the best seasons of tvd are all about them and their bond, which makes me feel more sentimental and connected to them. But besides that I think Stefan and Elena as characters on their own were better written while being together, their storyline wasn’t just all about each other, they had their separate stories and different relationships with other characters, while I feel like when Damon and Elena got together they just became Delena as a couple, and everything about their characters just started being about how in love they are or about how toxic they are which just bored me out, and I was even trying to skip their scenes together. And also what makes it worse is that because of how different their personalities are they kept trying to change them so much(especially Elena), that I didn’t even recognise them anymore. And the core reason why I fell in love with those characters just disappeared as the show went on. And by the way my unpopular opinions: 1)Damon was better off as a villain or an antihero 2)For some reasons Damon and Elena had much more chemistry in the first 3 seasons when they weren’t even together 3)I don’t like ripper Stefan. Not as a storyline tho, it was really interesting, but I didn’t like how they kept bringing him back just to mess up everyone’s lifes without making Stefan look bad in the end. God, just make him make mistakes sometimes

[@moondanak]

And people might say that Stelena were like a fairy tale, just a high school love and that they were too stereotypical, but I don’t care. They were written to be exactly that and I enjoyed it, I loved their relationship

[@brandyloutherback9288]

Damon SAed Caroline. Caroline deserved to feel mad that Elena was sleeping with him. I'm team Malena! Matt and Elena ditching Mystic Falls to live happily ever after! None of the brothers deserved her!

[@bowboww34]

right when i finished rewatching

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Therapy. She needed therapy.

[@Jessica-wo6px]

Definitely

[@tq8260]

those men should have left elena alone and she should have ended up with a nice human who has no relation to vampires

[@jelenajanuszko3857]

They did that for Sookie in True Blood as far as I remember and I think it was a good decision.

[@adilbougma3114]

Klaus will find her and kill her even though she will long dead if stefan didn't save her from drawning 😂😂 and yes both relationship are bad and I prefer bonnie and damon endgame

[@SerenaSkybourne]

What other Vampire Diaries content do you want to see?

[@yuelina.x]

deep dive into the mikaelson family at some point please. so interesting and the actors are sooo good, especially joseph morgan and daniel gillies

[@anishinaabae]

definitely a katherine video!

[@jiyabedi1731]

Mikaelson family deep dive. And a Bamon video

[@muniatshidibidikonda9233]

bonnie and damon's friendship, chemestry and mutual respect and the relationship they could've had. And maybe a comparison between how damon was with bonnie vs elena and how they both were with him (bonnie never stopped calling him out or let him change her into less of a good person)

[@cathienlive]

Even when I was a teenager my moral compass could not handle Delena, it would make me genuinely cringe with how wrong it felt given the context. I’m rewatching the series now and I noticed that Elena was subtly flirty and giving Damon passes since the very beginning. She barely set any boundaries (besides very clear cheating ones) while dating Stefan. Damon was never told off in a serious manner that his romantic attention is not and will not be tolerated, only the ‘omg Damon you’re so annoying *little eye roll*’. And so he continued and she never tried distancing herself from him or that kind of behaviour. Reverse roles and imagine dating a guy that your sister is trying to steal and all he does about it is roll eyes a bit with a clear hint of playfulness and continues enabling her behaviour to the point where she gets possessive over his being and decisions:)))

[@camillej1616]

Every thing you said about the relationships with brothers I 100% agree with you and I only realized that when I watched season 4 of tvd

[@loveart429]

I can't tell you how happy I am to see this

[@eleanorb9598]

This is so important

[@harryfleutv666]

Damon is like Jax in ‘The Amazing Digital Circus’, we enjoy his character because of how much of a loveable jerk he is, but at the end of the day he’s still an abusive asshole, but we somehow love him for it

[@lotte4547]

Loving a guy who is acting against your moral principles makes you hate yourself. Elena was a witness of many abusive situations and crimes but chose to protect Damon. To witness those situations, look away and continue the relationship just makes her a bad really bad person. Elena justifies the murders etc. of Damon and Stefan JUST because they are Vampires. Otherwise it would be the same to love a murderer like Ted Bundy etc. That would be called Hybristophilie....😬😬👀

[@teo.nicole]

let her cook 👌

[@SerenaSkybourne]

🥰🥰

[@бронза.вафля.конус]

Elena and Klaus would've been SICK. Rebekah would've had a shit fit hahaha But I will say that Stefan and Bonnie would've been the it couple. Elena did not deserve him. And Bonnie deserved better than the shitty love interests she had in the show. I celebrated when Enzo died, Stefan killing him was the cherry on top. Caroline and Matt.

[@taylorwelsh8212]

The thing that gets me with Stefan is he always said how he never loved Katherine, yes she did compel him to not be afraid of her and to not tell Damon that he was seeing her but she said it herself she did not compel him to fall in love her, I think he felt something for her but just never wanted to admit it I mean the only reason he took an interest in Elena at first was coz she looked like Katherine 🤷🏻‍♀️ and I’m sure he said that Elena was everything that Katherine wasn’t, basically implying that it’s how he wished Katherine could have been. I’m not saying he didn’t properly love Elena he absolutely did but it does seem after watching the show for the millionth time that Elena was what he wanted but with Katherine if that makes sense

[@antwanzhane_mawayd]

Elena should've ended up with herself. It sickens me that the real heroine of the show--Bonnie--had subpar relationships and had her best romance ripped away. The homies should've been fauning over Bonnie and getting into triangles over her. But no, the girl who never really learned how to stand on her own gets the steamiest romance (the very guy that Bonnie herself transformed into a better person) and the selfless girl who stood on her business the entire show, who learned how to truly love and value herself has writers that basically played in her face the whole time. Bonnie built Damon up into a better version of himself, loved him without delusion and blinders and dramatically compromising her morals (unlike Elena) and so SHE should have had him.

[@arialydia8095]

I honestly have no opinion about who she shouldve ended up with, as while I liked Delena around season 3 the writers ruined their relationship with the sire bond, that stupid forgetting plot line etc. I think the relationships characters, and plot of the show suffered from there being too many seasons and the writers kind of deciding as they went along what they wanted to happen because so much of it flip flops and is disjointed, overall i feel like the show was just toooo long and I never rewatch after S3

[@serenehamze3798]

I remember loving Damon and Elena when I was young but still enjoying Stefan and Elena. I think one factor is that Stefan and Elena were together during the best seasons before Julie plec completely took over and her toxic ideas saturated the later seasons. I also think that Ian and Nina dating did a lot of the heavy lifting in the relationship because if they didn’t have that chemistry people would not like them together.

[@ccvv1119]

If we’re talking the show instead of the love triangle she should have been with that human doppelgänger.

[@favour3734]

I have the same critiques of Delena and Damon as a whole but as Serena sahd they just had more chemistry and ICONIC moments. I still preferred Stelena ofc cos i would never support bad boy (read toxic) good girl trope and that pair was actually healthy however, i think the main problem was the writing. I remember when Damon would actually been called out and had a bit of accountability, everything after S3 where Delena is concerned is trash Really enjoyed the video even though i don't agree with the Stelena takes

[@thaboiinblue]

I feel like if she had to be with a vampire, Stefan made the most sense since what he wanted went perfectly in line with what she did. He also always respected her choices and wanted to be good for himself LONG before she came along, whereas Damon would use her as his Morality Pet (“love me or I’ll be evil again”). Neither EVER wanted to be vampires. Damon LOVED being a vampire, he was thrilled to be with Katherine, and tbh, it never made sense why the writers decided Katherine would love Stefan over Damon when she KNEW she didn’t have to compel Damon’s love and they shared the same love for vampirism. I’m sure it was to create drama, because if she loved Damon then they’d just be together, so instead we have to keep the love triangle going… 🙄 But to be COMPLETELY honest, Elena should have DIPPED the moment sh*t got real and her life, her family’s (I mean… Jenna died FOR REAL over that vampire crap) and loved ones’ lives. She should have donated bags and bags of blood (over a period of however many days it’s safe to do so. Maybe if she took an iron supplement it would help her recovery/blood regeneration) so that Klaus would leave her the hell alone, at least until she could do another donation for him if he needed it. She wanted to be a human and be a doctor. It never made sense for her to risk hers and her loved ones’ lives because she had the hots for two vampire brothers who only liked her because she looked identical to their ex. Yeah, I know there would be no drama, or even no plot, but I’m just saying REALISTICALLY, if this was real, she should have left. Definitely before she got in too deep with her feelings, if not the never ending danger.

[@pucklebearry]

16.30 So I remember when I watched TDV the first few go arounds, I really agreed with this sentiment but now I'm in a position where I actually really like it because it feels like a more realistic arch to me for Damon to keep fucking things up and doing terrible things. The thing is, when you've justified your bad actions for so long, holding yourself accountable 100% of the time after having a change of heart is actually a lot easier said than done, ESPECIALLY in the time frame they knew eachother and when these fuck ups occur. It's not within human nature, let alone a vampires nature, to hold those kind of... self indulgant, selfish inclinations at bay. I just wish it was an intentional affect they had written into his arch rather than just trying to pull the same rabbit out of the same hat again which is what it really was.

[@victoriathompson3194]

No matter who you ship, I think we all need to agree that TVD was a more entertaining show when both Stefan and Damon were romantic options for Elena. Once she chose Damon for good, the show wasn’t quite the same🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Catsclaw-ru6zw]

In the book Elena ends up choosing Stefan but on the show neither brothers should've ended up with her Elena's got as much drama as Lana Lang on Smallville. Elena had no problem being the cat's meow in school especially with the guy Caroline was in love with trying to get with her Caroline deserved better & so does Bonnie Bennett. Both women deserved happiness not get the shitty end of the stick because everything had to revolve around Elena.

[@sweetrupturedlight]

Damon and Elena had incredible chemistry. I shipped them. Not gonna lie

[@bobby_naur]

Serena I always finish your videos but I'm curious if it negatively affects your stats if it takes me 2-3 days instead of watching all at once. Thanks for another great vid! xo

[@SerenaSkybourne]

@@bobby_naur it doesn’t affect me at all 🥰

[@SerenaSkybourne]

@@bobby_naur it doesn’t affect the stats don’t worry

[@bobby_naur]

​@@SerenaSkybourne perfect! 😄

[@Sirena101]

Between Stephan, Damon, Angel, and Spike…Who do you love the most? Who do you hate the most? And your reasons why.

[@Jessica-wo6px]

At least Angel and Spike were not as toxic

[@Shaylovespopeye]

I think Damon and I love delena also can you do Bella and Edward and Jacob please and thank you I love you ❤❤❤❤

[@Ella24-007]

DAMON ❤😂

[@Ella24-007]

I think regardless of whether Damon or Stefan being there with her or not. She still would have been in danger because of Klaus. Remember season 2 Klaus was actively looking for the doppelgänger. So she was always in danger. She just didn’t know it.

[@Jessica-wo6px]

Elena shouldn't have gotten involved with either brother in my honest opinion. She never wanted to be a vampire in the first place and meeting them had led to her becoming one against her wishes. While Stefan was a much better boyfriend than Damon was to her, he was absent and had his own issues. I cannot get over his behavior in S3 when he chose revenge over her. Damon was even worse. He controlled, verbally abused and isolated her from her friends and killed her brother when she didn't want to be with him. They fought and treated her as some prize to be won all because of Katherine and not even because they loved Elena for Elena. Fans might rag on Elena's downward spiral in S4 onwards but to me, this is a long time going from seeing her be gaslighted, preyed on, endangered and used as a pawn by manipulative adults disguised as teenage vampires. John was the only person in Elena's life who genuinely tried to protect her from being an object for the Salvatores and their friends/enemies and yet he was dumped on and labeled the bad guy. This happened to Caroline as she was also abused and taken advantage by Damon, Klaus and even Stefan all the while she was also a teenager with all being grown men. Elena and Caroline were bad friends to each other regarding both of their handlings of situations with Klaus and Damon but they were both victims of manipulative creepy abusive men preying on them while they were still in their teens and both had emotional issues because of it. The biggest injustice to me was getting Elena involved with Damon who was her worst abuser and not living life as a human like she always wanted. She should have stayed away from both of them and dated Tom, the only decent and perfect match for her and learning to live again while having the life she always wanted and not be a shell of her former self😢 Elena Gilbert's story will always be one of the saddest arcs in TV history because she deserved so much better than the writers gave her💔 Caroline and Bonnie also deserved better too.

[@emilysimon6239]

someone on reddit said elena should’ve been with that EMT/stefan’s present day doppelgänger, at least according to the initial conception of the spell. same deal with stefan and katherine. wrong generational pairing🤷🏼‍♀️

[@lenakataeva7525]

Good point

[@chichichichilling4822]

I'm halfway through this and the only positive thing you've said about Damon dating Elena is that the actors have chemistry, while you talk about everything wrong with them being together. Am I supposed to hear all this and understand why Delena was good actually? Not sure what the intent of this video is tbh

[@lisa.222]

I honestly...i love Damon, but her telling Stephanie she feels looe he's always trying to protect her and whatever...amd going wirh Damon...Stephanie to me,.well modernstepham is husband material to me