I'm sorry, but in no world should this girl have ended up with a dude who raped and fed on one of her best friends, attacked her other best friend, turned her ex's sister, slept with and turned her birth mother, killed her brother RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER, and ultimately couldn't stand who she was as a person. Not to mention Damon's transference of feelings from Katherine to Elena was such an ick and he tried to force himself on her. I don't want to hear shit about "think about their good scenes" because there weren't any. Elena was the absolute worst version of herself with Damon because being with him meant she was being completely selfish by ignoring every thing he'd done wrong to the point she's catching an attitude with her best friends whom are victims of his. Her relationship with Stefan wasn't perfect, but he at least encouraged her to to be the best sister, friend, and person she could be. He inspired her to keep on living when all she wanted to do was crawl in a hole and die. Damon just brought out how depraved she could be. It was hard to watch him dismantle this "heroine" and turn her into a version of Katherine that he could selfishly hold on to. They were horrible for each other. Period.
@anishinaabaeАй бұрын
yeah, that's something that doesn't get brought up very often, the fact that damon was drawn to elena entirely because of his weird desire to re-live his failed relationship with katherine. whereas stefan was interested in elena because she was the antithesis to katherine! even after all of these years the scene that still sticks out in my mind is when damon had to rush stefan over in order to talk elena down and help her restore her humanity... you know a relationship must be rock solid when you need your brother aka your girl's ex-boyfriend to talk her down from the ledge. great writing!
@ivyfromthestarsАй бұрын
kzbin.info6oNofxzJy-k Damon SAID IT TO HER. He told her the truth! All girls had to do, was to listen! But no, they chose to glorify this woman losing her mind over this abusive relationship.
@thatonkgau5221Ай бұрын
14:01 The problem i have with Delena is the characterisation of Elena herself. In prior seasons she was a very kind, empathetic, selfless moral character who didn't hesitate to call Damon out on his shit. But after they started dating she stopped holding him accountable and kept making excuses and enabling him. Damon KILLED TYLER one of Elena's friends she's known since childhood and she just sweeps it under the rug and forgives. 22:44 YESSS, that's the biggest problem with Damon as a character he isn't hold accountable for his actions. Especially for what he did to Caroline and Andy he compelled them into being his little love slaves. He brainwashed them so he could use them either as a means to an end or as entertainment. He verbally, emotionally and physically abused these women. Since they were under compelsion and didn't have free will to consent Damon also sexualy assaulted and R#ped them. Damon is a serial murderer,abuser and r@pist and where supposed to believe he's the best man for her.
@randomgeekcrapАй бұрын
The summer they ended together he killed a whole family and Elena tired to jusfy it to the only survivor
@san6984Ай бұрын
@@randomgeekcrap and when they got katherine out of her body and she came back to she completely just ignored and let go of the fact that damon killed aaron after she was hallucinating and crying the entire time about how she thought she killed him when possessed by kath. they completely just butcher her character in order to justify her relationship with damon and its so sad and sick
@briannalee1998Ай бұрын
Exactly and the writers have the audacity to try to say he was a better man than Stefan. Disgusting.
@adelaideasАй бұрын
Elena remained a kind, empathetic, and selfless character who called him out on things--you all just cherry pick which moments to support this idea that she changed so suddenly because you didn't like who she was with. The fact that this happens in so many fandoms when the love triangle switches is just, lol. Typical.
@san6984Ай бұрын
@ you’re lying rn, bc she literally does not call Damon out and esp not to the degree of which she would when they weren’t dating. Damon killed Aaron, she spent an entire day hallucinating and going out of her mind bc she thought she had killed him when Katherine took over her body, she was completely distraught and as soon as she’s healed & it’s revealed to her Damon killed him not her she argues with him for a bit, excuses his actions with “because i love you” didn’t even address the fact that he almost killed her brother AGAIN bc “she” rejected him & had sex. That’s literally how a lot of their issues got handled esp between s4 & 5. Arguments & sex as a “solution”. S6 is the only season she’s dating Damon and has that grit & attitude that human elena had when damon would do fucked up shit & that’s mainly bc she got her good memories of him taken away & wasn’t blinded by love & s6 is Delena at its most beautiful, best and healthiest & even then again it’s bc Elena basically took off her rose colored glasses. It’s lazy as hell to say the critiques are just simply bc folks don’t like that she ended up with Damon instead of Stefan.
@BenjiXAddictX4EverАй бұрын
It should have followed the Original Books Endgame, back in 1992. Damon accepted Stelena and left town.
@mimismsxАй бұрын
100% - Damon was better off with Bonnie. I love Serena, but this is one video I will never agree with her on since Delena were such a bore fest for me LOL. I got the point where I skipped their scenes after s3 because I was bored out of my mind with their toxic mess. LOL
@not-a-ghost2206Ай бұрын
@@mimismsxthough I also loved the bamon friendship. It was the only relationship on that show that was purely platonic and we needed that. Damon shouldn't have gotten anybody. He was even more a creep than Stefan, I don't know why people forget this. 😅
@BenjiXAddictX4EverАй бұрын
@@mimismsx Stelena and Bamon were absolute perfection!
@Nagchampa765Ай бұрын
I’m still sooooo mad that Bonnie and Damon didn’t end up together
@Ella24-007Ай бұрын
No that’s only the first books in the revival books she chose Damon
@briannalee1998Ай бұрын
She should’ve ended up with Stefan. Their relationship was much healthier. They communicated and had mutual respect and supported each other. Damon always tried to control her and she had to bend her morals for him.
@Joana-hn8rkАй бұрын
No, it was Damon or with another one. After elena became a vampire, she changed, so what she needed or wanted from a partner also changed.
@Outlawgirl12976 күн бұрын
They ended up together in the books .
@angelaholmes8888Ай бұрын
I much prefer stefan and elena together because stefan to me was such a good boyfriend for elena 💚💚💚
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
He was such a sweet bf
@xwinwinwinxАй бұрын
I agree for when Elena was human but he didn't like her as much when she was a vampire. Wheras Damon helped her embrace her transition and the person she changed into because parts of her personality were heightened when she changed. Or at least that was the narrative the show went with to break them up lol and get Damon and Elena together. 😅
@xwinwinwinxАй бұрын
I heard that Julie Plec (show runner) had plans for Stefan and Elena to get back together in later seasons until Nina didn't renew her contract and announced season 6 was her last as Elena. So Julie was kinda forced into sticking with Damon and Elena.
@xxxxSOSEXYxxxxАй бұрын
@@xwinwinwinxStefan would have loved her either way, but Stefan knew she never wanted to become a vampire plus he desired to break the sire bond between her and Damon which is totally understandable. If the sire bond got broken though and she decided to remain a vampire, I fully believe he would have adored her no matter what. I mean, the writers even had him talk about Elena to Lexi after he died in the finale. Like, bruh you just got married. No love for Caroline? 😂
@briannalee1998Ай бұрын
Omg yes! And they were so hot together while being a healthy relationship while Delena was not.
@Anna-BАй бұрын
I’m team Stelena. I don’t think they’re perfect (the arc went so quickly, they need to think of a way to keep it going without backtracking), but I don’t think Elena and Damon are good for each other. It’s fun sometimes, but not endgame
@selenarodgers5667Ай бұрын
Agree
@PetraP01Ай бұрын
Yeah, I think the reason Stelena seems boring compared to Delena is cause Damon and Elena have that toxic explosive relationship, where they cycle through fightings and making up, which makes it fairly fun to watch and the making up part is electrifying and exciting and hot. Stefan and Elena are not like that, they're not perfect, but they're much healthier together, it's just that healthy relationships don't make for an exciting TV. They had enough chemistry together, they just don't have the fiery hot make up making out like Delena.
@ivyfromthestarsАй бұрын
@@PetraP01 Yeah, Delena is like Fast Food, overstimulating, addictive. While Stelena was like a healthy salad, light and easy-going.
@sweetxjcАй бұрын
@@PetraP01healthy couples can definitely be more interesting than toxic ones it’s just not all writers know how to write interesting conflicts for characters that doesn’t have some form of yelling.
@tana3875Ай бұрын
And if I say Elijah will I get shot 😂 any of the Nina Dobrev characters I don’t care. Their chemistry was ✨
@Nagchampa765Ай бұрын
YESSS
@michanoneАй бұрын
Now THAT is a thought! Her kiss with him when he thought she was Katherine...😚 Wanted a bit more of that. But at the end of the day I saw him more like he was too old. Not age wise, but life wise. He was very precise with what he wanted, how to go about life. And Elena wasn't even out of school and said "I don't know what I want". She needed so much time to grow and mature, IMO. But I totally get it. With a slightly different writing after they met..why not? :) It was possible.
@stephaniepage4334Ай бұрын
It would be great if elena daughter Stephanie salvatore end up with Elijah nephew nik jr if Elijah is biological uncle of nik jr?
@javierlopez9789Ай бұрын
Imagine being Elijah and being cursed with elena as your partner when Hayley is right there, their relationship would be Elijah saving Elena's useless ass 24/7
@TaewillsАй бұрын
I think Elijah would’ve kept harkening back unhealthily to Tatia. I’m not entirely sure he compartmentalized them all & loved Katherine for who she actually was as opposed to who / what she represented. Redemption for killing his 1st love. Don’t get me wrong, when they spoke closely & made deals, I felt that spark too! Tbh the respect Elijah & Stefan showed Elena was the sexiest thing about them.
@marig9236Ай бұрын
Id pick stefan for me. I want the kind man.
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
me too
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
Stefan isn't as interesting narratively, but in real life he'd be the best bf
@Esh486Ай бұрын
Had Jeremy not been wearing that ring when Damon killed him....
@suprsparxАй бұрын
And people still would've shipped for superficial reasons.
@yukijames1321Ай бұрын
All because Elena rightfully rejected him. Damon really acts like a child
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
Yep😳😬
@anishinaabaeАй бұрын
elena was one of my favourite characters in the first few seasons, but i just couldn’t get behind her relationship with damon. i know this is a show about all kinds of ooky-spooky creatures who have very skewed morals at best, but it just didn’t make narrative sense for elena to love her brother so dearly and then turn around and fall for a character that murdered jeremy in retaliation to her denying his sexual advances. vampire or not, that’s some incel behaviour of the highest degree! honestly the minute the show decided to pair the two and put everything into propping up the delena relationship is when the writing quality really took a nosedive. by the time jeremy died for good and elena had that heartbreaking scene where she became hysterical with the grief of losing her last remaining family member, i just felt insulted as a viewer. don’t try to sell the audience on elena’s undying devotion to her baby brother if you’re just going to pair her up with the man who violently snapped his neck to punish elena, my suspension of disbelief ends there.
@stephaniepage4334Ай бұрын
Mine too
@loveatfirstglow24Ай бұрын
@@anishinaabae very good points. I hate every single thing about season 4
@HartCodeZacharyАй бұрын
I personally think that the many retcons later is what just made everything so messy-er. The writers could've just had Elena choose Damon at the end of season 3, and have the following season being everyone in that new dynamic and getting the awkwardness out. Stefan could have left and the show would have brought him back later and had him and Elena slowly be friends and having him fully rebuild his relationship with Damon as brothers.
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
That would have been better than the sire bond. Hated that arc so so much🙄😠
@queenloiskosher6119Ай бұрын
The only good thing Delena had was a strong sexual chemistry and younger teenagers bought into the whole bad boy who is only good to me/for me, but then you grow up and realize it’s nonsense and dangerous even. Damon was controlling under the guise of “protective”. Damon was far better with Bonnie because I felt like they had the heat and chemistry, but more than that, he genuinely became better for her, he truly respected her. All the things the writers were gaslighting us to believe about Delena, I saw in Bamon. Stefan would’ve been good with Elena because he actually respected her, he liked her, he was protective and sacrificial but not controlling of her. He liked her specifically because she wasn’t Catherine in any way from the start. whereas Damon only liked Elena for being different from Catherine only after Catherine broke his heart. They really should’ve fleshed out stelena’s romance more.
@jfrancis6191Ай бұрын
Totally agree! Damon should have been with Bonnie!
@evelynflickinger5351Ай бұрын
This is a great distraction for election night panic. So excited to watch this video, love your commentary and TVD
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
We all need a good distraction sometimes during this period especially xx
@motaku220Ай бұрын
should’ve been Stefan
@selenarodgers5667Ай бұрын
Agree, through & through
@stephaniepage4334Ай бұрын
If stefan was keep alive would he end up with human elena?
@kjgfdsa3577Ай бұрын
I didn't finish the show and I haven't finished the video, but I've watched enough content about the vampire diaries to know that Damon should have ended up with Bonnie.
@stephaniepage4334Ай бұрын
It would be great if damon son end up with bonnie daughter if she has kids after enzo death?
@heirsoleilАй бұрын
the correct answer
@Sims3TimeoutАй бұрын
Also I feel like Damon and Bonnie had great chemistry in the show. Would’ve been interesting if they had explored their relationship more.
@AliceInsanityАй бұрын
@@Sims3Timeout Not just in the show, in the books, too. Though Bonnie was extremely different in the books...
@thaboiinblueАй бұрын
It absolutely deserved to be explored. In YA shows everyone hooks up with everyone at some point, but Bonnie and Damon was just… off limits. Interesting. Also fascinating was how in seasons 7-8 every time Damon expressed any love or affection for Bonnie it HAD to be undercut with “because of Elena” or mentioning Elena in some way. I get being loyal… but COME ON!!! The DRAMA that would have ensued! Judgy, HEROIC Bonnie goes for DAMON?!? Witches who are one with nature with a vampire (THE vampire of the franchise) who is the perversion of both magic and nature… It would have been JUICY!!!
@ivyfromthestarsАй бұрын
I pray I get someone like Stefan. I want somebody who is not going to be with me for the chemistry. Or because he couldn't get with my sister, or because I am a good girl... No. I want somebody who respects my choices and loves me in a healthy, selfless way. Basically, a lover and a best friend
@AshandPreАй бұрын
stefan and elana ate!! her and damon only had sexual chemistry bc of the actors..
@blackbird45Ай бұрын
Delena or the romanticization of a toxic abusive and codependent relationship. This relationship is a real shame.
@nicematerialАй бұрын
Indeed. Let's talk about what's REALLY important today 😂
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
HAHAHAHA this is a majorly pressing issue
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
I couldn't miss my regular Tuesday uploads ):
@nicematerialАй бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne 🤣
@milchreis9554Ай бұрын
No no no, I need everyone to remember that the original endgame was actually Matt! Elena was meant to forget about the vampires and live a happy human life, with the brothers sacrificeing themselves together. The character conflict would've resolved and the story come full circle. That's what the writers intended setting off and I think handled right it could've worked great. If they hadn't butchered Matt's storylines like they did.
@dionysisnance4204Ай бұрын
I grew up watching the vampire diaries and I remember crying when elena and damon had their last dance, that lives rent free in my mind.
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
Omg me too
@lxfj2128Ай бұрын
Saying Stefan didn't have chemistry with Elena is wrong . Remember Stefan calling her on her birthday or the first time they slept with eachother like ep 3
@midnightfox3157Ай бұрын
I’ve always been a stelena fan bcuz while yes both Stefan and Damon had good and bad moments I feel like Stefan had more good moments like when he respected her choices and decisions when demon would always undermine it and while yea at the end of the day he kept her safe but he wasn’t respecting her and her own agency and like you said in the video he was never held accountable for so many of his actions like killing Jeremy just because Elena didn’t reciprocate his feelings and even after that when Elena was mad at him it was treated like a joke like oh your giving me the silent treatment well your get over it eventually and I don’t like that bcuz to be with someone is to love them but also call them out on the shit when they need to be not try to find a way to justify everything they do
@ericanair9144Ай бұрын
21:09 I think a lot of people forget that in the earlier episodes, Damon used to walk into Elena's room and just go through her underwear drawer. That was beyond creepy and disgusting. Damon r*ping Caroline and other women in town should've been a deal breaker for Elena. Stefan all the way!
@anishinaabaeАй бұрын
not to mention murdering her brother before her very eyes just because she said no to his advances. if he wasn't wearing the ring, he would've been dead for good.
@Nagchampa765Ай бұрын
I’m team Elijah
@stephaniepage4334Ай бұрын
Same it would be great if elena daughter Stephanie salvatore end up with Elijah nephew nik jr if Elijah is biological uncle of nik jr?
@javierlopez9789Ай бұрын
Elijah is too good for her.
@melissaisloud7404Ай бұрын
Elena always wanted to live a simple human life. I always felt that she should’ve ended up with Matt. He could’ve given her the exact life as she wanted. And Damon should have ended up with Bonnie.
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
I agree. Being with Stefan or Damon just meant living a life she never really would have wanted
@adilbougma31143 күн бұрын
I think you misunderstood elena, if elena want a happy life she could be with matt, but instead she break up with and want for stefan. Elena want an adventure and be free
@yuelina.xАй бұрын
I agree with so much you are saying. Great video. I have to say I don't think Stelena was boring. It just seemed boring compared to Delena, because the writers clearly were in love with them and Ian. They gave so much more time to them vs Stelena. Stefan is just more like an intovert, and that's fine. And Delena honestly isn't much more interesting either, as I said, I just think the writers had this weird obsession with Ian and it seems like Delena are just very sexually attracted to each other, which I guess is more enterntaining to watch than a more "normal" and slow relationship like Stelena. Like some other commenters already said, I agree that Stefan seemed to be genuinely interested in her and like her and all that, and Damon and Elena just have sexual tension, party because Damon was always obsessed with Katherine. Katherine manipulated Stefan to like her in the past.
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
Yes I agree, the writers obviously had this weird obsession with Damon so they never really gave Stefan and Elena a chance to be something more
@melanienszkzАй бұрын
I think if Damon was played by another actor people would’ve hold him accountable. Ian is an amazing actor, it’s his character and he made him good, as an audience we wanted him to be good.
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
hiii my besties!
@BenjiXAddictX4EverАй бұрын
Hiiii I love your outfits!
@mollyryann7858Ай бұрын
Hiiii! Love you're videos 🫶❤
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
@@BenjiXAddictX4Everthankyou 🥹
@alexwallar8608Ай бұрын
Love you Serena 😊
@gradis13Ай бұрын
My vote is with Rebeka
@kailynncovington3907Ай бұрын
Will you ever do The Originals and Legacies? I'm interested in hearing you talk about the Mikealsons and their relationships with one another. Ill share my thoughts on the Mikealsons and Legacies. Something that I felt no one noticed is that Klaus's relationship with his siblings is abusive (and in relation to Rebekah and Elijah,) codependent. They fear him and love him and can't seem to leave him and when they try, they're punished. It's an abusive relationship. But of course it isn't that cut and dry. They all hurt and betray each other. When you think one sibling is worse we learn something else and baam! Another one takes their place. Rebekah was also pretty interesting. On the one hand, she's fierce and independent, and on the other hand, a hopeless romantic who continues to date people who aren't good for her and can be quite vulnerable. When she first appeared she was quite childish, quick-tempered, impulsive, and had a cruelty to her that she shared with Klaus. But over the course of TVD she quickly matured, resembling more of an adult (kinda wild that wasn't the case originally, but whatevs.) I remember a scene in the originals where she sold out her brother Kol to Klaus and watched in glee as he was staked. I like Elijah's character (generally.) He feels like an ancient vampire. He's collected, intelligent, and quite cunning with a flexible morality, but he's also loyal (to a fault,) and keeps to his word, unless it involves his family. Then his moral ambiguity starts to rear its head. It makes sense. He's willing to sacrifice so much for his family. Why not his word? Freya is a lot like him as well. Kol...Kol is a lot like Damon, Kai, Klaus (she really just copy pasted Damon, added some new stuff here and there and Boom! Klaus. She did the same Kai and to a lesser extent Kol.) Kol consistently treated love interest right and he rightly didn't want anything to do with Klaus and his siblings to a lesser exrent. He actually saw the abuse for what it was. He also (from my memory,) had a certain level of respect towards witches and magic that vampires tend to lack. Three things all the Mikealsons have in common. Ruthlessness, Loyalty (at the end of the day), and a soft spot for romance. Hope in many ways is the best of them all. But she also reminds me a lot of Elena, but if she had powers and was allowed to be fierce when necessary. She and Elena both lost so many people and both had survivor's guilt. I just think Hope was a better portrayal. I like tvd, but I would've loved it, it it allowed its main characters to be unapologetically morally ambiguous. I guess to me, it makes sense for vampires to be. It would've been great as a dark romance. I also wish Elena wasn't as powerless as she was in the show. She was the strongest in the books! (According to the fandom page.) I also wish writers would've known where they were taking this and would've taken more inspiration from the books. In particular with the supernatural creatures. Legacies in my mind have healthier relationships and a clearer understanding of mental health. And the unhealthy ones are depicted as such (minus one. Glaring. Couple.) Some of the characters aren't as complex as they could be, but I still like them. Alaric's character is dragged through the mud though, but I choose to look at it from the angle that hey. Sometimes people come out on the wrong end after numerous traumatic events, so it kinda makes sense. But I still was disappointed with it. It's much more fantastical and rules are broken and bended to fit the plot like always. So yeah. What you would kinda expect. There is this play episode that makes me think at least the writers are self-aware to SOME extent.....but continue making the same mistakes.
@stephaniepage4334Ай бұрын
Will there be another spin-off because Julie revealed that she team are definitely work on new spinoff based on legacies original tvd?
@javierlopez9789Ай бұрын
Even though elena is bland at least she feels like an actual person, Hope feels too much like a fanfiction character, she is the daughter of two famous powerful characters, part of the most powerful family, is the only one of her kind, she is smart, rich, pretty, most powerful being in the universe, its just way too much, thats part of the reason her show didnt work, well that and the insufferable cast that had nothing on TVD and TO
@mickcrump7799Ай бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH for pointing out the glaring issue that underlies both of the brothers’ relationships with Elena, which is and always will be Katherine!! Katherine taught them both how to love and throughout the show, most of the characters end up agreeing with many of Katherine’s observations about the love triangle and the Mystic Falls gang as a whole. In season 2, Katherine tells Stefan that he came to Mystic Falls to fall in love with her “all over again” via Elena and that was 100% true! Lexi even has an issue with it when she meets Elena in season one and Stefan tells her to not say a word and she doesn’t. However, in the season 4 finale, Lexi tells Stefan he’s had two epic loves in his life and that both of woman “shared the same face.” Stefan knew of Elena’s connection to Katherine and likely would never have told her if she had not found the hidden photo he had kept for 100 years, which is another point Katherine brings up to Stefan in season 2. Why did he hold on to her picture for 100 years if he never had any real feelings for her?? In season 6, Enzo’s plot may have been all over the place, but his points are valid! Why does Stefan always get a pass for his poor behavior and why does he always get to dictate who is a “good” vampire and why should others be shunned or killed for them doing the same things that Stefan has done throughout the show. Stefan swooped in during season 1 and made sure to direct the narrative with Elena and her friends regarding who is a good vampire and what makes someone not worth saving. Stefan controlled that narrative for the first 5 to 6 seasons and Enzo called him out on it after he abandoned everyone, lied to them all, and allowed Damon to believe he had killed the real Sarah Salvatore. Katherine was also right about Elena loving them both as she did, bc Elena admits it in season 6. She admits her evil doppelgänger was right, she could and did love them both at the same time. Caroline confirms it! Everything Katherine says to Damon immediately after she is made permanent in Elena’s body in season 5 to break up with him was absolutely true! Damon was toxic and it should never have been in Elena’s shoulders or conscious as to whether Damon could control his emotions and need to kill at all times! Damon and Stefan NEVER took accountability for their part in things and always blamed Katherine for who they were and the mistakes they made when they were human and after they became vampires. Katherine’s entire goodbye speech to each one of the group before her death in season 5 is the truth and that’s why it hits them all so hard! She knows them all better than they do and has ALWAYS called them out on their tendency to deny or blame others for their mistakes. Both brothers had ulterior motives with Elena that stemmed from their love for Katherine, which impacted their relationships with Elena and hurt her in ways that cannot be fixed. They saw Elena as their “do-over” or second chance with Katherine and it seeped into every aspect of their relationships with her. Plus Damon slept with her ancestor and her mother!! Thank you for bringing this point up as I get torn apart for even mentioning it!!
@yuelina.xАй бұрын
When I was a teenager I liked Delena. Now I'm 28 and I'm like STEFAN ALL THE WAY. Stefan isn't a saint either obviously (and its explained well that he struggles with his dark side and hates it), but damn, Damon is soooo fucking toxic, half the people who die or get hurt or end up in trouble is because he does horrible things without thinking about the aftermath. The amount of people he killed and no one cares, but when Stefan, Caroline or anyone else does it people can't believe it. Stefan and other characters are demonized while Damon gets away with everything, on top of being way older, (even when they weren't vampires) and pursuing minors. Predator. People HATE Ezra from PLL, but Damon gets away with it cause he looks good. Even his actor hates it. Damon could kill several childs and people wouldn't care. And the fact Elena ends up with him is disgusting, girl the amount of times he hurt you, your family members (literally killed her brother and threatens people you love all the time) and other people is insane. But oh well, as long as he looks good I guess, go girly. I still love Damon as a character tho, he is hilarious
@kellybellypumpkinjellyАй бұрын
As per usual, Serena feeds us with the best, deep content we love from her!! Thanks Queen!🥰🫶
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
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@zoc.6922Ай бұрын
I started the show being neutral over Stelena but, Delena just had more chemistry. I just remember so many more Delena scenes. I couldn't see Elena going back to Stefan after turning into a vampire. The show implies that as a human, Elena loved Stefan because he got her out of her depression when parents died but (kind of like with Matt) she was afraid to admit she fell out of love. The quick turn around of Elena choosing Stefan on the bridge to later choosing Damon & then sire bond being revealed... it was a lot. I feel like instead of the Sire Bond, they could have said Elena couldn't lie about how she felt anymore because being a vampire heightens your emotions. Maybe the writers wanted to leave the door open for Elena and Stefan to get back together but, it was such a weird way to do it.
@stephaniepage4334Ай бұрын
Will delena have biological grandchildren at end of tvd ending when delena died of old age if Stephanie salvatore has kids?
@vashtinayagar1325Ай бұрын
@@stephaniepage4334well yeah
@bananapeelnr1Ай бұрын
15:36 I absolutely love how you pointed out unhealthy and bad role modeling to young audiences encouraging to go for toxic abusive relationships in real life. Romanticizing and glorifying it is a sickening trend in new adult books and movies/shows. While I also enjoy reading/watching these, young people can fail to separate it from real life and project it onto themselves.
@SthuthukileАй бұрын
I used to give Elena a lot of crap, but looking back I realized that she was a vulnerable and grieving teenager who should have had a normal life instead of being thrown into the chaos of vampires. Stefan never should have interfered with her life. I really think she would have healed and became well-adjusted after some time. Instead, she jumped into a relationship with an immortal cause he made her feel "alive again". She even says herself that she loved Stefan cause she just knew he would love her forever and would never die like her parents. If you watch the show carefully, Elena never properly healed from her parents death...she just tempered her grief with Stefan and then Damon. She believes she's the cause of everything that goes wrong, she always wants to sacrifice herself when everyone is in danger and she wants to control everything cause of her trauma. Stefan and Damon actually ruined her life, and that's what I think. (It made for great television though)
@Saraht4Ай бұрын
Do a video on Katherine please! Love her character! She was a woman who knew her worth! Even tho the writers started to ruin her a bit, she still remains my fav character from TVD
@thaboiinblueАй бұрын
I LOOOOOOOOOOVED Damon with Rose!!! He was SO sweet with her! It was so pure and genuine! RIP Rose. ❤
@evelynflickinger5351Ай бұрын
Not related to TVD or the video but have you ever watched Buffy? If not I recommend watching it, even if you don't make any videos. It is my favorite vampire show!
@knight2002Ай бұрын
Haven’t started the vid yet, but yes!! I’ve been waiting for another TVD video from you. I literally rewatched the first 5 seasons once I saw your first TVD video came out 😂❤
@lizziem03Ай бұрын
I was & always will be team Stefan ❤️
@imperialbeauteeАй бұрын
Honestly I root for neither lol. The whole love triangle thing bored me and reminded me of Twilight. Two men pining over an average white girl....(No offense towards Nina Dobrev but to me Bonnie is way more beautiful could just be me tho).What's even more frustrating is that Bonnie could've easily dated either one of them 🙄 So yeah, I checked out by like Season 3.
@thatonkgau5221Ай бұрын
YESS, They should've had Elena end up with Stefan and Damon move on with Bonnie
@бронза.вафля.конусАй бұрын
HUH? In which realm is Nina Dobrev average? Be fucking for real. And what the hell does her skin colour have to do with anything? Kat is absolutely gorgeous but this comment is insulting to both women.
@muniatshidibidikonda923324 күн бұрын
not just more beautiful she was more interesting as well and didn't lose her personality throughout the seasons (maybe bc she didn't become a vampire which she woul've disliked even more than human elena)
@diyah4580Ай бұрын
Steffen wasn't compelled to love katherine, only to not be afraid of her.i also always took it as katherine and elena are the same person. Each are a copy of the original in all ways, but upbringing and experiences make them who they are. Nature is the same, the nurture was different
@jewelcool2458Ай бұрын
Yea you can definitely see more and more as the show goes on that Elena has that same selfishness as Katherine, it just is presented in different ways due to how she grew up/the image she has of herself. (i.e Elena is blind to her selfishness)
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
Oh please. Katherine is no better than Damon. Damon compelled Caroline the way Katherine compelled Stefan and we don't mind calling him a SAer. She should be called a SAer too. Katherine is just as bad as Damon but fans constantly excuse her
@winniedahbarbieАй бұрын
OMGGG BEEN WAITING FOR THIS GURLL WOO🎉!!
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
Love you!!
@winniedahbarbieАй бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne Love youuu gurlll❤️💋
@ivyfromthestarsАй бұрын
Love IS NEVER territorial; territorial means controlling! Love gives you freedom, ALWAYS.
@katherinealvarez9216Ай бұрын
Therapy. She needed therapy.
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
Definitely
@j04370859Ай бұрын
I don't care if Stefan was boring. He was far less toxic than Damon and was a far better boyfriend.
@brandyloutherback9288Ай бұрын
Stefan didn't SA Caroline!
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
It was Damon who SA Caroline
@jess.1515Ай бұрын
Referring to Elena being more safe if she wasn’t with them I would have to disagree I think she would of been in the same or even more danger considering she’s a doppelgänger
@TaewillsАй бұрын
Honestly she should’ve been alone for at least a year. Dating from teen years through eternity w/out a fully developed brain explains why she scandalously flopped between 2 brothers! Why is no one else grossed out by the brother sharing theme in this show? (And The Originals) ugh Irl this would be completely unacceptable in most parts of society. 42:19 this convo about Dalana’s real life chemistry is ironic bc it wasn’t enough to keep them together irl either. This talk about Stefan being boring is so weird to me. He def wasn’t boring (or evil imo) in the first 4 seasons- I genuinely felt he was multifaceted in a good way but the writing for the whole show bored me. I didn’t tune in faithfully after S4. 50:45 as a poly person this is my problem with forced monogamy principles. It’s completely possible to love 2 ppl romantically at the same time AND feel satisfied. Because fulfillment isn’t something one gets from another person it comes from within. So falling for someone else whilst in a relationship doesn’t negate the bond you have with person #1.
@annabinАй бұрын
Yeah and no time gap between them. She just switched beds immediately after breaking up with Stephan. So disrispectful.
@tq8260Ай бұрын
those men should have left elena alone and she should have ended up with a nice human who has no relation to vampires
@jelenajanuszko3857Ай бұрын
They did that for Sookie in True Blood as far as I remember and I think it was a good decision.
@adilbougma31143 күн бұрын
Klaus will find her and kill her even though she will long dead if stefan didn't save her from drawning 😂😂 and yes both relationship are bad and I prefer bonnie and damon endgame
@matheusromao6907Ай бұрын
Guys, just wanted to preface my argument with I am a clinical psychologist, specialized in IPV (intimate partner violence), and I watched TVD for the first time when I was about 15, and I was team Stefan ever since then. Damon and Elena have one of the most abusive relationships I've ever seen in any tv show. I'm gonna sort of quote something that summarizes my problem it. In one episode of season 3, Rose is talking to Jeremy about the 2 in the car, and she says something like "stefan is the best choice, but damon... he's different he challenges her, she's either at her worst with him or at her best" something like that. And holy god, this is so non-sensical hahaha. I think the worst thing for me is, the breaking up and getting back together over and over and over again. Damon himself says how selfish he is so many times, and all of a sudden she's like omg i love you so much (I know they justify it with her being sired to Damon) but come on... It honestly hurts to see, because they're so self destructive to each other all the time, but then they go on a high have sex and everything is good. You see, even the description sounds strange isolated. I'm not saying Damon doesn't deserve a redemption, or that his character didn't evolve throughout the show. But the relationship that's shown to us is so much worse than Elena's relationship with Stefan. It always irked me the wrong way. I remember when I was a teenager, and when I realized that they decided Elena was gonna end up with Damon I was so broken hahahaha. But yeah, there an Essay to be written why Elena and Damon are much more bad than they're good to each other. My biggest problem with all this, and my final point (i know this is long I'm so sorry) is the message that the shows passes to the audience. Go girls, go be with the bad boy toy know is bad for you and breaks your heart every now and then, it's okay, it will workout in the end, they have so much chemestry. Seriously, this hurts my heart, and unfortunately many people think like this.
@delaneycornforth8405Ай бұрын
To be honest, I wouldn't pick either of these men for myself. Damon, for obvious reasons - I enjoy being immersed, but in reality if they wanted Damon to be as redeemable as they painted him, he went wayyy too damn far in his first couple of seasons for how they went about it to even slightly work. Stefan, however, while a genuinely nice guy a lot of the time and definitely kinder, is a NASTY guy when he's in his addiction, and the rest of the time totally gives me vibes of being the guy that put Elena on a pedastal and can't handle when she doesn't exactly match the person he has her as in his head. That's not much of a better long-term relationship outlook, it's just toxic in a different and less obvious way imo. (This is without watching the whole video yet btw!)
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
@@delaneycornforth8405 I agree with you, in reality I wouldn’t pick either
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
Excellent statement! Agree wholeheartedly
@dianaszuts398Ай бұрын
This video is more than one hour??? :D God, I love you :D
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
I do my besttt
@dianaszuts398Ай бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne 😊
@c0zycherryАй бұрын
haven't watched the video yet, but i wanna state my opinion... when the show started, i was team stelena, and still was team stelena even when damon entered the picture - then ripper stefan happened (whom i LOVE TO PIECES) and delena got closer & closer and it just did something to me to the point of being like "nah, team delena 4eva"... it also didn't help that they made stelena so fvcking BORING later on in the seasons. ARGUE WITH THE WALL 😆
@ImrightyourewrongydktslidАй бұрын
But also can we talk about the fact that he LEFT Elena with no words, no notice, nothing. This sent her on a summer long spree of trying to find him and bring him back. I also just got the vibes that Elena was just so pure as a human in Stefans eyes, but when she's vampire queen legend he says evil
@arialydia8095Ай бұрын
I honestly have no opinion about who she shouldve ended up with, as while I liked Delena around season 3 the writers ruined their relationship with the sire bond, that stupid forgetting plot line etc. I think the relationships characters, and plot of the show suffered from there being too many seasons and the writers kind of deciding as they went along what they wanted to happen because so much of it flip flops and is disjointed, overall i feel like the show was just toooo long and I never rewatch after S3
@jelenajanuszko3857Ай бұрын
Oh man, someone FINALLY addressed it! As an adult now myself, I agree with pretty much everything being said here, except maybe one thing. Even though my teenage Delena heart would strongly oppose this 😁 I see now that Elena and Damon was way too toxic and unhealthy, while Stefan was just too... absent I guess? Like he was there, and he was a super supportive boyfriend to Elena but he was just not really present in the relationship with his own feelings and expectations, thus making them together seem dull and boring. There were other characters that were bringing out way more personality out of him for sure, with Elena he was just too mellow and lifeless in my opinion. They were good as friends but not lovers. The one thing I don't agree with though is the lack of Stefan fighting for Elena being a bad thing. I think that some dose of involvement and passion in a relationship is always needed for sure and it was definitely lacking in their relationship but when there are obvious feelings for someone else, then the fight is a bit pointless because you can't fight them away out of your partner. I truly get Stefan's approach of stepping back and letting Elena decide for herself. Cause what would be the point of him fighting for her if her feelings for Damon would turn out stronger anyway? I personally wouldn't want to be with someone who's also in love with someone else, no matter how much I'd love them myself. I think it was actually a sign of maturity and self-respect on his part to let Elena resolve her feelings herself instead of forcing her to choose him over his brother.
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
What other Vampire Diaries content do you want to see?
@yuelina.xАй бұрын
deep dive into the mikaelson family at some point please. so interesting and the actors are sooo good, especially joseph morgan and daniel gillies
@anishinaabaeАй бұрын
definitely a katherine video!
@jiyabedi1731Ай бұрын
Mikaelson family deep dive. And a Bamon video
@muniatshidibidikonda923324 күн бұрын
bonnie and damon's friendship, chemestry and mutual respect and the relationship they could've had. And maybe a comparison between how damon was with bonnie vs elena and how they both were with him (bonnie never stopped calling him out or let him change her into less of a good person)
@bowboww34Ай бұрын
right when i finished rewatching
@hydeqyzy17 күн бұрын
I don’t care how much “chemistry” they had (I also never saw chemistry between them). their relationship were always only physical and sexual, that’s it. why they would be better a couple if they were toxic and abusive.
@loveatfirstglow24Ай бұрын
Hello, we all watched The Vampire Diaries and Pretty Little Liars at the same time. It amazes me that some fans hold Pretty Little Liars to a higher standard than The Vampire Diaries. Majority of The Vampire Diaries fans base roots for the most toxic couples, that even the Showrunners/writers say stuff would not be acceptable today. I repeatedly always come to the conclusion the fanbase is just toxic and the “HotGuy” gets away with everything
@caitlynl7213Ай бұрын
they def went too far with damon being bad. bc he often pointed out that he was bad bc he had to be the one to get things done, but that wasnt always the case. i did like her and damon but i wish they wouldnt have made him such an abuser. stefan was a creep though and painfully boring
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
I agree, the whole bad boy fantasy trope I understand, but they took it to a new extreme
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
Both relationships were toxic and unhealthy. I can never be on team Stefan or Damon
@jfrancis6191Ай бұрын
The great thing about TVD was that Elena was presented as the protagonist, yet she was so outlandishly toxic that she was like the covert villain of the show! I honestly loved it, and I think it was done on purpose. When your main character is pretending to be the good girl while constantly causing everyone around her anguish it makes for great entertainment! Her relationship with Damon is the best example of her gross hypocrisy. Julie Plec is brilliant.
@loveart429Ай бұрын
I can't tell you how happy I am to see this
@pucklebearryАй бұрын
16.30 So I remember when I watched TDV the first few go arounds, I really agreed with this sentiment but now I'm in a position where I actually really like it because it feels like a more realistic arch to me for Damon to keep fucking things up and doing terrible things. The thing is, when you've justified your bad actions for so long, holding yourself accountable 100% of the time after having a change of heart is actually a lot easier said than done, ESPECIALLY in the time frame they knew eachother and when these fuck ups occur. It's not within human nature, let alone a vampires nature, to hold those kind of... self indulgant, selfish inclinations at bay. I just wish it was an intentional affect they had written into his arch rather than just trying to pull the same rabbit out of the same hat again which is what it really was.
@tebogommitsinyane6211Ай бұрын
Okay here the thing I know the writers of the show focused way too much on sexual chemistry with delena and their relationship was her always policing him, I agree with most people when they say she should’ve stayed with Stefan. But my thing is I like when I’m tv shows characters break up because it gives us a chance to see what their like when their not in said relationship,this regarding stefan, in s3 that was the best season for him because he wasn’t chasing elena,imo he was better single and trying to figure himself out without her.Damon I liked with elana bcoz it allowed us to see a different side to him that he actually cares(yes the writing went south) about anyone rather then himself and Katherine . Those who say Damon and bonnie should’ve ended up together,I love Damon but they were better as friends and bonnie deserved someone who should’ve picked her first..All in all these two brothers should’ve both left these women alone and sorted their issues with eachother
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
Yes they should have left the girls alone and repaired their relationship because both of them put Elena and her family and friends through heck and they lost a lot because of it. Elena should have been able to live a quiet human life the way she wanted
@lotte4547Ай бұрын
Loving a guy who is acting against your moral principles makes you hate yourself. Elena was a witness of many abusive situations and crimes but chose to protect Damon. To witness those situations, look away and continue the relationship just makes her a bad really bad person. Elena justifies the murders etc. of Damon and Stefan JUST because they are Vampires. Otherwise it would be the same to love a murderer like Ted Bundy etc. That would be called Hybristophilie....😬😬👀
@ShaylovespopeyeАй бұрын
I think Damon and I love delena also can you do Bella and Edward and Jacob please and thank you I love you ❤❤❤❤
@NotSure405Ай бұрын
Damon didn't abuse Elena. Yes. He killed Jeremy. But why do people don't care when vampires in the show kills random people but go crazy when it comes to Jeremy. Who Jeremy is to Damon? Random guy he don't like. So he killed him because he is a killer vampire. Because he can do this because he have the power to do this and not go to jail. Of coure you can't kill people and it is not fine. But let's be real. If vampire existed then it would be everyday situation. There were some negative things about Delena. I won't deny it. But I blame it on the writing. Realistically they should be okay. Damon abused Caroline. We can say that compelling and feeding on someone is abuse so yes. But it is just funny how Caroline acts about it instead of get over it. Even more funny she became more abusive than Damon later as vampire. So why is it okay when she does it? Because she is sad about her mother or something? This anti-Damon behavior and Damon hate became boring. Do video when you talk for 1 hour about how TOXIC Stefan is if you dare.
@teo.nicoleАй бұрын
let her cook 👌
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
🥰🥰
@бронза.вафля.конусАй бұрын
Elena and Klaus would've been SICK. Rebekah would've had a shit fit hahaha But I will say that Stefan and Bonnie would've been the it couple. Elena did not deserve him. And Bonnie deserved better than the shitty love interests she had in the show. I celebrated when Enzo died, Stefan killing him was the cherry on top. Caroline and Matt.
@camillej1616Ай бұрын
Every thing you said about the relationships with brothers I 100% agree with you and I only realized that when I watched season 4 of tvd
@serenehamze3798Ай бұрын
I remember loving Damon and Elena when I was young but still enjoying Stefan and Elena. I think one factor is that Stefan and Elena were together during the best seasons before Julie plec completely took over and her toxic ideas saturated the later seasons. I also think that Ian and Nina dating did a lot of the heavy lifting in the relationship because if they didn’t have that chemistry people would not like them together.
@eleanorb9598Ай бұрын
This is so important
@Sirena101Ай бұрын
Between Stephan, Damon, Angel, and Spike…Who do you love the most? Who do you hate the most? And your reasons why.
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
At least Angel and Spike were not as toxic
@moondanakАй бұрын
Oh I have so many opinions about this topic. First of all I feel like the main reason why I’m team Stefan is because of the simple fact that the first 3 season that are objectively the best seasons of tvd are all about them and their bond, which makes me feel more sentimental and connected to them. But besides that I think Stefan and Elena as characters on their own were better written while being together, their storyline wasn’t just all about each other, they had their separate stories and different relationships with other characters, while I feel like when Damon and Elena got together they just became Delena as a couple, and everything about their characters just started being about how in love they are or about how toxic they are which just bored me out, and I was even trying to skip their scenes together. And also what makes it worse is that because of how different their personalities are they kept trying to change them so much(especially Elena), that I didn’t even recognise them anymore. And the core reason why I fell in love with those characters just disappeared as the show went on. And by the way my unpopular opinions: 1)Damon was better off as a villain or an antihero 2)For some reasons Damon and Elena had much more chemistry in the first 3 seasons when they weren’t even together 3)I don’t like ripper Stefan. Not as a storyline tho, it was really interesting, but I didn’t like how they kept bringing him back just to mess up everyone’s lifes without making Stefan look bad in the end. God, just make him make mistakes sometimes
@moondanakАй бұрын
And people might say that Stelena were like a fairy tale, just a high school love and that they were too stereotypical, but I don’t care. They were written to be exactly that and I enjoyed it, I loved their relationship
@taylorwelsh821225 күн бұрын
The thing that gets me with Stefan is he always said how he never loved Katherine, yes she did compel him to not be afraid of her and to not tell Damon that he was seeing her but she said it herself she did not compel him to fall in love her, I think he felt something for her but just never wanted to admit it I mean the only reason he took an interest in Elena at first was coz she looked like Katherine 🤷🏻♀️ and I’m sure he said that Elena was everything that Katherine wasn’t, basically implying that it’s how he wished Katherine could have been. I’m not saying he didn’t properly love Elena he absolutely did but it does seem after watching the show for the millionth time that Elena was what he wanted but with Katherine if that makes sense
@thaboiinblueАй бұрын
I feel like if she had to be with a vampire, Stefan made the most sense since what he wanted went perfectly in line with what she did. He also always respected her choices and wanted to be good for himself LONG before she came along, whereas Damon would use her as his Morality Pet (“love me or I’ll be evil again”). Neither EVER wanted to be vampires. Damon LOVED being a vampire, he was thrilled to be with Katherine, and tbh, it never made sense why the writers decided Katherine would love Stefan over Damon when she KNEW she didn’t have to compel Damon’s love and they shared the same love for vampirism. I’m sure it was to create drama, because if she loved Damon then they’d just be together, so instead we have to keep the love triangle going… 🙄 But to be COMPLETELY honest, Elena should have DIPPED the moment sh*t got real and her life, her family’s (I mean… Jenna died FOR REAL over that vampire crap) and loved ones’ lives. She should have donated bags and bags of blood (over a period of however many days it’s safe to do so. Maybe if she took an iron supplement it would help her recovery/blood regeneration) so that Klaus would leave her the hell alone, at least until she could do another donation for him if he needed it. She wanted to be a human and be a doctor. It never made sense for her to risk hers and her loved ones’ lives because she had the hots for two vampire brothers who only liked her because she looked identical to their ex. Yeah, I know there would be no drama, or even no plot, but I’m just saying REALISTICALLY, if this was real, she should have left. Definitely before she got in too deep with her feelings, if not the never ending danger.
@rachel_ellingsonАй бұрын
We all agree STEFAN… I mean realistically neither of them… maybe Elijah. But team Stelana 100% I love a hot bad boy and Damon is so fun … but end game should’ve been Stefan
@emilysimon6239Ай бұрын
someone on reddit said elena should’ve been with that EMT/stefan’s present day doppelgänger, at least according to the initial conception of the spell. same deal with stefan and katherine. wrong generational pairing🤷🏼♀️
@lenakataeva7525Ай бұрын
Good point
@monaeckleАй бұрын
Damon was the only right choice imo.
@bobby_naurАй бұрын
Serena I always finish your videos but I'm curious if it negatively affects your stats if it takes me 2-3 days instead of watching all at once. Thanks for another great vid! xo
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
@@bobby_naur it doesn’t affect me at all 🥰
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
@@bobby_naur it doesn’t affect the stats don’t worry
@bobby_naurАй бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne perfect! 😄
@antwanzhane_mawaydАй бұрын
Elena should've ended up with herself. It sickens me that the real heroine of the show--Bonnie--had subpar relationships and had her best romance ripped away. The homies should've been fauning over Bonnie and getting into triangles over her. But no, the girl who never really learned how to stand on her own gets the steamiest romance (the very guy that Bonnie herself transformed into a better person) and the selfless girl who stood on her business the entire show, who learned how to truly love and value herself has writers that basically played in her face the whole time. Bonnie built Damon up into a better version of himself, loved him without delusion and blinders and dramatically compromising her morals (unlike Elena) and so SHE should have had him.
@cathienliveАй бұрын
Even when I was a teenager my moral compass could not handle Delena, it would make me genuinely cringe with how wrong it felt given the context. I’m rewatching the series now and I noticed that Elena was subtly flirty and giving Damon passes since the very beginning. She barely set any boundaries (besides very clear cheating ones) while dating Stefan. Damon was never told off in a serious manner that his romantic attention is not and will not be tolerated, only the ‘omg Damon you’re so annoying *little eye roll*’. And so he continued and she never tried distancing herself from him or that kind of behaviour. Reverse roles and imagine dating a guy that your sister is trying to steal and all he does about it is roll eyes a bit with a clear hint of playfulness and continues enabling her behaviour to the point where she gets possessive over his being and decisions:)))
@harryfleutv666Ай бұрын
Damon is like Jax in ‘The Amazing Digital Circus’, we enjoy his character because of how much of a loveable jerk he is, but at the end of the day he’s still an abusive asshole, but we somehow love him for it
@Itsintheway23Ай бұрын
Love your video series and this is unrelated but I would love to see your review and opinion of Outerbanks
@favour3734Ай бұрын
I have the same critiques of Delena and Damon as a whole but as Serena sahd they just had more chemistry and ICONIC moments. I still preferred Stelena ofc cos i would never support bad boy (read toxic) good girl trope and that pair was actually healthy however, i think the main problem was the writing. I remember when Damon would actually been called out and had a bit of accountability, everything after S3 where Delena is concerned is trash Really enjoyed the video even though i don't agree with the Stelena takes
@Jessica-wo6pxАй бұрын
Elena shouldn't have gotten involved with either brother in my honest opinion. She never wanted to be a vampire in the first place and meeting them had led to her becoming one against her wishes. While Stefan was a much better boyfriend than Damon was to her, he was absent and had his own issues. I cannot get over his behavior in S3 when he chose revenge over her. Damon was even worse. He controlled, verbally abused and isolated her from her friends and killed her brother when she didn't want to be with him. They fought and treated her as some prize to be won all because of Katherine and not even because they loved Elena for Elena. Fans might rag on Elena's downward spiral in S4 onwards but to me, this is a long time going from seeing her be gaslighted, preyed on, endangered and used as a pawn by manipulative adults disguised as teenage vampires. John was the only person in Elena's life who genuinely tried to protect her from being an object for the Salvatores and their friends/enemies and yet he was dumped on and labeled the bad guy. This happened to Caroline as she was also abused and taken advantage by Damon, Klaus and even Stefan all the while she was also a teenager with all being grown men. Elena and Caroline were bad friends to each other regarding both of their handlings of situations with Klaus and Damon but they were both victims of manipulative creepy abusive men preying on them while they were still in their teens and both had emotional issues because of it. The biggest injustice to me was getting Elena involved with Damon who was her worst abuser and not living life as a human like she always wanted. She should have stayed away from both of them and dated Tom, the only decent and perfect match for her and learning to live again while having the life she always wanted and not be a shell of her former self😢 Elena Gilbert's story will always be one of the saddest arcs in TV history because she deserved so much better than the writers gave her💔 Caroline and Bonnie also deserved better too.
@Catsclaw-ru6zw6 күн бұрын
In the book Elena ends up choosing Stefan but on the show neither brothers should've ended up with her Elena's got as much drama as Lana Lang on Smallville. Elena had no problem being the cat's meow in school especially with the guy Caroline was in love with trying to get with her Caroline deserved better & so does Bonnie Bennett. Both women deserved happiness not get the shitty end of the stick because everything had to revolve around Elena.
@Ella24-007Ай бұрын
DAMON ❤😂
@Ella24-007Ай бұрын
I think regardless of whether Damon or Stefan being there with her or not. She still would have been in danger because of Klaus. Remember season 2 Klaus was actively looking for the doppelgänger. So she was always in danger. She just didn’t know it.
@ccvv1119Ай бұрын
If we’re talking the show instead of the love triangle she should have been with that human doppelgänger.
@marisacampbell527Ай бұрын
You should watch gossip girl and do a review on that I would love to hear your opinions
@SerenaSkybourneАй бұрын
@@marisacampbell527 so weird you comment this because I’ve been watching it 👀
@lenakataeva7525Ай бұрын
I think Elena should have been alone in the end or with random human (maybe Stefan's doppelganger if they developped him)
@AHufflepuffAndASwiftieАй бұрын
At the beginning, I remember being on SO "Team Stefan", BUT after like S3 (or 4; I don't really remember when it was now; it's been awhile since I watched it 😅), I TOTALLY switched "sides" & was "Team Damon" from then on!! 😉 I don't know if anyone's the same as me in this, but . . . That was me when I was a teenager! 😊😍
@brandyloutherback9288Ай бұрын
Damon SAed Caroline. Caroline deserved to feel mad that Elena was sleeping with him. I'm team Malena! Matt and Elena ditching Mystic Falls to live happily ever after! None of the brothers deserved her!
@dionysisnance4204Ай бұрын
I liked that elena ended up with damon cuz elena and stefan relationships was just boring stefan was way better with Katherine then elena.
@бронза.вафля.конусАй бұрын
That's crazy. Damon spent over 100 years pining after Katherine, bent over backwards to raise her from the desd. So how is Stefan the one who's better with her?
@thaboiinblueАй бұрын
I DO agree with your points about Stefan being boring and him and Elena (and all of his love interests) having too little chemistry. (And yes… she had insane chemistry with Damon… we all know it 😭). I think maybe with different casting… Sorry to any Paul Wesley fans! 😅 But DEFINITELY different writing and Stefan COULD have been better fleshed out and his dynamic with Elena far more captivating.
@victoriathompson319428 күн бұрын
No matter who you ship, I think we all need to agree that TVD was a more entertaining show when both Stefan and Damon were romantic options for Elena. Once she chose Damon for good, the show wasn’t quite the same🤷🏼♀️
@ElleVervainАй бұрын
I hated the thought of Elena ending up with Damon, bc I read the books and there Damon got together with Bonnie. I would have loved that in the show too, even if show!Bonnie and book!Bonnie are kind of different people. Book!Bonnie kinda always seemed mousy to me, but I still loved and wanted the best for her. Back in my teens a few online friends and I actually had an online TVD-roleplay server and we shipped Elena with Elijah Mikaelson for some reason :'D