Server Meshing and Jump Point Test Successful!

[@ulvemann43]

The fact that "4.0 is planned for summer 2024" now actually seems like it may actually happen, is wild.

[@zoisbekios5239]

I wish so, but Jared said yesterday that with the new patch cycle things may take longer. So if 3.23 comes in April then next 4.0 should come around September considering the polishing that will be needed for 3.23 and 4.0 testing, which would better be delayed for Citcon, otherwise 4.0 as end of year patch looks far more realistic.

[@NexFioVos]

@@zoisbekios5239Jared basically said it’s not going to be April, because of how big 3.23 is the standard patch per quarter doesn’t count since it is basically a 3 cycle patch, so probably expect late May/June

[@Empty12345]

There's no way in hell 4.0 will be on Summer 2024

[@Uselessnoobcow]

The same story every year, it will get delayed to Christmas and then it will be delayed to summer, and then Christmas, and then summer. Round and around

[@doubledigital_]

@@zoisbekios5239 what he was saying its this update we are getting is for the ENTIRE year.. not just oh lets move on after this patch.. no no all the features are going to get updated over this year.. we are getting a mega dump. And i for one LOVE this lol.

[@manlyastronaut6984]

For the first time I actually believe that we might get pyro in 2024

[@domdom3938]

They might even start work on the third star system by the end of the year

[@Zentrify]

​@@domdom3938they've started a while ago

[@VelocityFilmsCO]

@@domdom3938 Systems like Nyx I think we get ASAP too since it’s pretty much just bringing back Levski. God I miss that place

[@doubledigital_]

spoiler alert.. they have all the systems that are connected to stanton already done ;)

[@ChrisR395]

@@doubledigital_ Magnus and Terra are already done!? I must see the evidence for this!

[@Jess_2k]

Cracking up when saying "Built like a sphincter" was a special moment to witness I must say! Lmao

[@pastexpiration2160]

I didn’t like it.

[@Zormac]

@@pastexpiration2160 We'll make sure to run it by you before publishing a new video next time

[@BillyFrench]

Imagine the feeling when they tested this internally for the first time

[@doubledigital_]

amazing and a giant sigh lol :D and a pub! lol

[@randoguy7488]

Imagine quality testing for free for a company that raised $640 000 000, $103 000 000 last year alone

[@yourfather8865]

@@randoguy7488Having players be part of the developpement in some way is great marketing, people are happy to test things and feel involved, devs get a bigger scale testing. It's ok to be ignorant but at least don't be smug about it

[@DJB10T1C]

its volunteer work, no one has to, they did it because they wanted to. imagine not imagining that. @@randoguy7488

[@FrenchyTube3]

@@randoguy7488what’s with the negativity? Surely other developers are making quality, un-rushed products from their overlord stockholders/investors that have never held a gaming controller.

[@JackDaloots]

I do have some concerns about gate camping, call it EVE PTSD. "Have some friends to help you fight off what's on the other side" is going to be cold comfort when there's an entire fleet of player hostiles on the other side.

[@agey4988]

I mean it's all about economy and supremacy. If each server can have more than 100+ players in it it'll help. If we get what we heard between the lines, we might have a baby EvE online soon.

[@AnanaceDev]

According to what's been mentioned about the design, this is going to be solved by the fact that jump points aren't going to be a point-to-point thing, but rather a main point and also a whole bunch of temporary smaller points spread around the main point. So if you're worried about an ambush, you should be able to take one of the branches instead, and end up a couple of thousand km off from where the ambush would be waiting - at the main jump point.

[@AndrewFurmanczyk86]

I wonder if they could have the wormholes give off radiation that at first slowly brings down your shields and then later starts doing damage to your components. This would be intended to stop people from just camping out otherwise the campers ship would eventually be disabled, while the incoming ships would be at full shields? Might not work though because could you have 2 shifts of campers stay for a little bit until their shields go down and then the next group would come in. However it's still a lot less viable than just camping out at the gate. Could also make the radiation much stronger at the gate? obviously it'd need to be balanced carefully but maybe it might be a solution for gate camping?

[@JackDaloots]

@@AnanaceDevok good, I'm glad there's at least a plan :)

[@masneri97]

​@@AndrewFurmanczyk86not bad at all ! Could be a really good starting point.

[@MrGhost.]

Nice to see you ingame during the test. Played for about 3 hours did 10 jumps and experienced no server or ctd crashes. I believe they will make it this summer after how well the test has been going

[@doubledigital_]

if this works .. dont forget they have other systems already done :P cough dont say i said that! ha

[@CrusstySculpture]

​@doubledigital_ are those systems finished though? I know that their new tech can spit out a system in a couple of hours, but that wouldn't include settlements/cities, missions, etc.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@CrusstySculptureNyx, Vega and Odin are definitely done. Not sure about Magnus and Terra , though.

[@cmdrls212]

​​@@Billy-bc8pkhahaha no. Only whatever they needed for squadron. They didn't even finish half of Pyro bro and they've been at it for 5 years. Whatever places in those system they needed is all you get and you'll be locked out of everything that they skipped. Just like with half Pyro 😂

[@JasonVanPatten]

I was busily testing this last night. The first run up to the jump point in Stanton was challenging as it wasn't clear what steps to follow. Specifically the "punch it!" part that isn't in the patch notes. But once chat explained how it worked, I did a trip from Stanton --> somewhere in Pyro (...) ---> somewhere in Stanton in a single play session. Lots of bugs, the most annoying being if you swap the QT drive in your ship, you can't go through. But the the key point is: it works! And for what it's worth: the "bouncing off" happens if someone gets into the portal before you do. It's a one-at-a-time system right now, and if you and your buddy both get clearance to go, and his ship is faster than yours, he'll make it into the portal a half second before you, and you'll then get YEEEEEETED!!! away.

[@KaryudoDS]

I'm more interested for when server meshing becomes granular enough to help server performance but I'm still happy this test worked. Just jumping systems will still be interesting.

[@ayaakiosawa0]

They're testing doubling the server cap very soon too

[@KaryudoDS]

@@ayaakiosawa0 Oh nice. They're going to need some sort of soft cap too so that might factor into figuring out what a safe one might look like.

[@ChristoffRevan]

​@@ayaakiosawa0Actually more than that haha...not just 200 players, but 400 player play test for Sunday

[@koolerpure]

4.0 is actually happening after all this time, gotta say im impressed with how its turning out

[@JonatanE]

I'm looking forward to the upcoming tests that will feature 200 and 400 player caps

[@zsm3985]

I doubt it will reach higher then 200 before dynamic sm

[@guts2787]

​@@zsm3985 will not be a thing. EU and US and Asian servers have to be separate due to lag and bandwidth issues.

[@gianfelicelungarella2650]

They already are at 329 ppl

[@zsm3985]

@@guts2787 since when last time I checked it was 150 but I haven't played in a few months

[@phillip_mcguinness7025]

@@zsm3985 that can change from week to week depending on how much debugging is running on the servers and how healthy the build is.

[@Zorander2008]

After listening to many people I trust, like Morph, I have been more tempted to start rebinding my keys. It’s been so long since I last played and finally, I am getting the itch back. This is a great sign for the future. My itches are never wrong.

[@nistramai]

Good luck with that! If you don't already, making a map in something like MS Paint (that's what I use) will help A LOT in figuring out what you want where. Then you rapidly go through the list binding everything

[@Zorander2008]

@@nistramaiGreat idea. I shall surely do that. Thank you.

[@KnutNukem]

The true power of server meshing I can't wait for is sharing workload of different areas in the same system, which is a crucial to step to better the server performance (fps) and AI as far as I understand it.

[@DTOXTV]

Sounds fantastic. Thanks for the update!

[@AnymMusic]

The evocati feedback CIG truly wants. "it looks like a sphincter" 😂

[@Jerr2k3k]

Man you are becoming a pillar of this community, and I hope you never quit. ❤

[@merclord]

The interface is all placeholder and definitely why it's with evocati. If the community had to deal with this they would have had a major meltdown. But for us, it's just another day in SC testing. I struggled for about an hour to figure out the right location to make the jump but once you figure it out it's pretty easy to repeat.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

I also imagine most Evocati testers seem to be older, so are much more patient than the typical gamer who has grown up in an era where they wanting everything "now".

[@merclord]

@@Billy-bc8pk There seems to be a pretty wide range of ages. But maturity is definitely a plus. We have rules and we tend to follow them.

[@festersmith8352]

I played the PTU "once" a few years ago. Never wish to do that again. So thank you for your sacrifice of minutes off your life span, and strands of natural hair color. Blood pressure medication I believe is still cheap. I'm 50 by the way, and my patience has limits. But that same patience can also wait for live release.

[@merclord]

@@festersmith8352 You're welcome. What most gamers consider painful we evo's consider fun. I quite enjoy the process.

[@festersmith8352]

@@merclord Seen an Evo tester comment a little bit ago. He was pissed how something didn't work. Wrong personality for the Evocati group. Imagine signing to test the earliest release of a patch, for a game in alpha dev. And be disappointed it has issues. Had to laugh at the irony of it.

[@SolaAesir]

The *dynamic* part is the crazy-hard part of the dynamic server meshing they have planned, but as far as the player is concerned, that just gets rid of population limits. Even if it takes them years to figure out the dynamic part of things and let each system have more than 100 people interact at once, just having the ability to move around the verse and allowing the game to expand by leaps and bounds is going to be amazing for players. I'm really glad they're getting static server meshing done so quickly, it really implies that they've finally figured out their back end object container streaming/location caching (whatever they're calling it these days) in a scalable way and can now make progress on things the user can see.

[@Cookie-yl8uq]

Note on the gate camping comment: CR has said many times in the past that 'gate camping' won't be possible as the exit from the jump will be random within a certain zone too large to camp.

[@festersmith8352]

But what about the entrance to them? Everyone keeps repeating what you said. But nothing is mentioned about the fixed entry point.

[@Omaricon]

I assume the open/closed mechanic of the jump drive is to fix the lore they wrote years ago. Previously they said that Jump Points will vary in stability, where they may open and close between systems, essentially altering the shape of the verse. Some Jump Points have been rock solid, while other could bring new opportunities. This is also one of the gameplay loops of explorers, finding jump points and selling the data, creating a more dynamic universe.

[@doubledigital_]

you also have to think of crime stats! not sure how they are going to make that work but... would be interesting to have a backdoor if you have one going from 0.0 to 1.0 etc.. who knows .. this aint eve but i know CR plays the shit out of it lol.

[@OrionKaelinClips]

I only tried with two small ships, and Aurora and Titan, and only bounced once on each side when trying to enter. I don't think it was alignment it my case but rather approaching with the wrong timing between the "Gate Opening" and "Entering Tunnel" phases as indicated on the HUD. Ill be trying more transitions later today but it seemed a fairly simple process if one followed the step-by-step instructions on the spectrum post for the playtest instructions.

[@alpree]

I like how you explain the terminology for newcomers. Videos can get very term-heavy and complicated in niche communities, you explaining things in a simplistic way highlights how good SC community is 👏

[@Cornerboy73]

I'm looking forward to another 'First" endorphin rush. I remember the launch of the PU where we finally left our hangars and could fly around. I remember the first time we had Lorville on Hurston and had somewhere else to go outside of the Olisar/Crusarder-area moons. I remember our first time seeing capital ships in flight and marveling at their size. This first jump through the gate, whenever it happens, is going to be a pretty momentous occasion for all of us. Cheers to our devs and testers - let's keep the momentum going o7

[@festersmith8352]

First landing on a celestial body, and stroll! Port Ollisar, Daymar, and Delemar will always have a place in my mind and heart.

[@MacroAggressor]

Jump gates getting camped is going to be an _incredible_ opportunity for a dynamic event... UEE puts out an alert to all "militia" members that a sortie is being organized to eliminate the threat on the other side of the gate. Easily triggered by a certain number of deaths after jump in a window of time and a certain threshold of deaths per jump over that same timeframe.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

I don't think they can be camped the way people think. The videos I've watched explaining how they work indicate you get spit out at random places in space. So it will be incredibly difficult to camp their actual locations. You would need a very organised group with long-range scanners and quantum interdiction traps.

[@velocitymg]

That’s a relief, not like Eve where you pass through and appear immediately on the other side of the jump point. If it’s random points that will make it harder to control and intercept craft passing through.

[@festersmith8352]

That will help mitigate the issue upon the exit. But what is to stop players from camping the entry, that seems to be a fixed point? Stanton side has heavy NPC security. But that doesn't like lore for Pyro.

[@lopsidedwombat]

Feels like we're getting 2+ years progress in months. I wonder what the future of SC progress will feel like

[@Pistolita221]

A full release in 2025 seems... possible at this rate? Or at least all the systems being polished by 2025 and it starting to feel like what was promised... pretty incredible.

[@lopsidedwombat]

@@Pistolita221 I've been burned too many time with dates lol but the game really is shaping up lately. Played the orison seige with a friend and it felt ... like a game. And most of my complaints with the event seem to be fixed with 3.23

[@Pistolita221]

@@lopsidedwombatI've been sitting on the sidelines for 2 years watching updates, it seems like the coolest game ever concieved, but it's not functional enough for me to throw money at it. I almost got a Retaliator cause it was so cheap for the size/ability (175 at the time I checked it out), but I decided against it since I only had 1 other person who wanted to play.

[@festersmith8352]

@@Pistolita221 Might kick yourself in the butt for not grabbing it then. Its being reworked and polished now, and the price will likely go up. Though that seems like an unusual starter ship to choose. But everyone has their own intention when they join the verse.

[@parkinsaw]

@@Pistolita221 ......lol heavens no. I am expecting 4 systems in 6 years time (I am counting Pyro)

[@Libertas_P77]

I was one of the first players to make the jump from Stanton to Pyro yesterday, and it felt a real privilege to participate in a test of this magnitude and see all the years of CIG’s slugging and hard work on this ground breaking tech finally pay off. The jump points are a little glitchy but who cares, it was seamless moving between servers without a load screen. I started my session at A18 and logged landed on the surface of Pyro IV in my Carrack, absolutely floored that it was all working so well. We’re getting Pyro this year, I no longer have any doubt. Congratulations to the CIG team on this.

[@Mimcubus]

"Getting the alignment right is tricky" Hull-C Pilots: "I've been training for this day"

[@TypicalDutchSaysHi]

I did my first jump this morning. Its awesome that we finally get there. Did the jump both ways. Area 18 - Orbituary - Tressler. It's really an amazing experience even without all the eye candy.

[@RN1441]

This is a necessary step for entity transfer between servers. Next up they need to implement this INSIDE start systems so they can achieve the long term promise of doing real meshing like they showed off at citizencon where people can fight and interact over mesh boundaries.

[@zerumsum1640]

If i recall correctly, they've stated they have the in system server meshing damn near ready. I assume the inter-system jumps needed additional testing because it's less "You are in server X at your current location, you can go to 6 other boxes in real space, and quantum to a different location in the same system so here's a list of locations you can jump to." and more "You want to go to a different system? Let me find the jump point server, prep a list of quantum jump destination server ID's, figure out what you'll need to see in the local area that (to your game client) didn't exist 5 seconds ago, and spool up the whole "wormhole" mecchanic's variables and information so all of the people on your ship see the same thing." within a star system, you'll just be handed off from server to server and the relevant information for moving into the next server is likely already pre-loaded from having to render what's going on in the neighboring "box" so to speak. with how quantum currently works, i'm assuming anywhere with a quantum point on the map will have it's server tagged as a destination and indexed so the game can find that quickly when you jump. with how dynamic the servers are going to be, I doubt having one unchanging list would work. When changing systems you probably have to unload the old list and load the new one, then connect to your destination and stream the information. To hide this transition time, there's the wormhole tunnel, which means at some point your ship is definitely its own server as you're handed between the two systems. least that's my guess. I have no idea, just an understanding of computer networking. Gods that must have been an absolute bastard to code...

[@resresres1]

​​​​@@zerumsum1640as a programmer/developer I can guarantee they are not tagging quantum point destinations by servers. It would more likely just be done on the fly for a truly dynamic server meshing. That is the bounding boxes that each server controls is kept into an array/list. Then the assets to display and server your character will be on is done by location of your character in relation to those bounding boxes. As for jump point transition, it's probably purely more intensive because they are deciding to unload all the assets out of memory from one system and loading in assets into memory the next system.

[@RN1441]

@@zerumsum1640 I believe that the entity transfer process between the two 'zones' we have as solar systems right now is identical to the local handoff based on how they've described it. Maybe that's me being too hopeful, but that's how they've been describing it.

[@zerumsum1640]

@@RN1441 It would be similar, but I reckon the local zones are pre-loaded to some degree so it's seamless to travel between them, and also enable us to see across the zones seamlessly. Meanwhile, we don't have to see across a jump point, but we will be moving from the local pool of servers to another server pool entirely. I bet the jump points act as designated arrival zones, that can be streamed in quickly as we do the transit, and then the clouds around the jump point will hide the system loading in as we arrive. It would make sense to have designated handoff servers to enter and exit the server pool, these ones won't change while the general pool of servers can spin up/down a lot more dynamically. if it was just anywhere to anywhere i can see there being issues with the handoff having to find a valid arrival zone.

[@Souchirouu]

They should increase the difficulty of aligning the ship wit the size of the ship. That way people can build real skill that is valuable for others. A success rate tracker for jumps could be a potential great selling point for a player looking for a group.

[@JFrombaugh]

I'll be honest, I had just about given up hope on this project, and probably would've sold my account had CitizenCon 2023 been basically the same as the last two just with a live crowd. But I'm so glad I decided to stick it out because after everything that's been happening these past few months, I'm now genuinely feeling hopeful that we'll get to see Chris' dream actually become a reality.

[@doubledigital_]

his and all of us who backed it.. glad you stayed! o7

[@festersmith8352]

I never lost hope in the success of the project. But time to completion has always been on my mind. But I also knew that while SQ42 is being made, all those game systems in it are going to work in SC. And I understand while the engineers and devs work on key tech like SM, there is a whole crew of devs working on things that will quickly follow once jump points become a reality. Already they are pushing the sever population way up and testing it. Didn't see that coming. And what have they we don't know about that they think will allow that. Not sure how I feel about more psychopaths in the same space as me.

[@PvtDamion]

Wait; "built like a sphincter" and "it's clearly not for us to look at, it's just for us to test"? I mean.. I'm glad you got invited beforehand ;) All jokes aside: this is very good news! This gives us hope to see CIG deliver something that's actually close to their given release window, I'd love to see Pyro this summer and it actually sounds realistically possible!

[@FrozenKnight21]

I can understand the ATC request system, i think its meant to prevent someone coming the opposite way through the jump point. Its in essence a safety measure. Else you could just fly in and have a colision. From a networking standpoint, it could be reserving your spot on the remote server.

[@sebastianrivera9122]

4.0 is going to come out. For once this actually is going to happen

[@jful]

It actually seems like it this time. What a huge moment for the game. I can't wait to see what other features will drop with that patch as well given the amount of stuff slated for 3.23

[@heru_ur6017]

Just a few more years, trust us for real this time - CIG

[@GhostOfMilliesHat]

Once 0.4.0 drops it's only about 60% more game to go until 1.0.0 (full release)

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@GhostOfMilliesHatNot really. 4.0 is near-tech complete. Only thing after that would be Maelstrom. Quantum is also just waiting on server meshing to be brought online; from there all the big tech pillars would be complete: PES, server meshing, Maelstrom, and Quantum. Everything else after that is just gameplay mechanics and art assets, which are the easiest things to implement.

[@cmdrls212]

When?

[@Undoing77]

Came back last night for the first time in two years because all the new hype had me excited and I just built a new PC. Here's how the experience went: My friend and I couldn't invite each other to a party because it said we were both offline even though we were standing two feet from each other. We said our goodbyes and went our separate ways. I hopped in my trusty old Cutty-B to go knock the dust off, did a couple of laps, then circled Orson Spaceport for 30 minutes while ATC ignored my landing requests until I eventually died of dehydration. Determined that half a billion dollars later, these ten year old issues must be a fluke, I respawned back in my posh little apartment, hopped out of bed, and promptly crashed to desktop. And I loved every second of it :)

[@Em.P14]

It is almost here, we almost got it. The game is slowly going towards becoming a realidty

[@shizuoheiw]

My feeling is once we pass server meshing and jump points, the game is going to start expanding really fast, I imagine asset generation is easier and more straight foreward than inventing new systems

[@MrCow579]

SC is really ramping up development lately, it seems. I love it!

[@thedickghost]

Honestly I bet this is actually all the work they've been doing for years now paying off all at once.

[@festersmith8352]

All we needed was patience. Which is acquired by understanding and accepting how complex custom built projects are created.

[@mlsasd6494]

i think a lot of things were also held back from SQ42, which was always said and people called them liars. But hey, in the end we dont know and it does not matter, more content is more better, i dont care how long they have been working on it.

[@phillip_mcguinness7025]

2/3 of the developers were working on Squadron 42, now that it's in polishing phases they migrated over at the beginning of the year and the speed will drastically ramp up.

[@festersmith8352]

@@phillip_mcguinness7025 Don't forget a lot of the work they have done, can be ported over to work in SC. EVA, new map, interaction, new looting, FPS mechanics, AI mechanics. The entire Odin solar system. The Vandul and all that comes with them. Map and environment assets.

[@stannistargaryen]

@8:11 I had a Star Wars Galaxies flashback.

[@jackboi0349]

But maybe having the alignment be this complicated is a good thing? Maybe it will make travelling to other Systems more challengeing and, in the end, rewarding? I think it could be a good option to balance the Jump Gates and make travelling to other Systems more difficult which would balance the Jump Gates more. But thats just my understanding xD Anyways Its awesome to hear that the tests have been going good and I am really excited to see this in the PTU and PU soon!

[@FritzOFN]

The game is progressing at a nice pace now I think 🙂 Love that the Pyro->Stanton jump testing is progressing in the right direction.

[@ValcryeTheSecond]

I managed to complete my first jump yesterday and it was insane knowing I was in Stanton and essentially flew into pyro

[@dukeofhazard420]

The UI may have been placeholder but it was still awesome

[@Kehvan]

Am I the only one who'd love to see Firefly retconned into the Star Citizen universe?

[@kinggooseman5373]

Yes please

[@All_Hail_Chael]

Why? You could live your Firefly fantasies in *sniggers* Starfield. If Firefly went on for 20 more seasons, all the crew left and a bunch of monkeys on typewriters started writing the script.

[@Kehvan]

@@All_Hail_Chael *_Why?_* Because the basic story outline of Firefly could fit into Star Citizen lore. Basically, there's some gaps in Star Citizen lore that haven't been rectified, especially as it pertains to a human's desire to assert independence from a meddling bureaucracy, which is a persistent feature of human history. I can find Star Citizen lore regarding conflicts with pirates, political rivalries, power struggles, and factional conflicts, but nothing like the scale of Independents fighting the Alliance in Firefly. If Star Citizen lore wants to reflect the reality of human beings *_being human_* there needs to be something like the _Unification War_ in Firefly. Additionally, there's some gaps in Firefly lore that don't explain how humanity went from Earth to the quintuple star system, which the Firefly series takes place. That gap could be explained by jump gates retconned into Firefly lore. It just seems to me that CIG could team up with Disney (The current owners of the Firefly series) to retcon Firefly and Star Citizen lore, which could bring about more than just a video game, but tv series and movies too. To start, they'd most likely have to retcon the United Planets of Earth (the precursor of the UEE) into the Union of Allied Planets (the Alliance). It would be easier to change the game than the series, because the game hasn't officially been released. Then they could retcon the reason why people don't use of jump points in the Firefly verse was because the Alliance keeps tight control over the existence of jump points in that particular region of space, with the vast majority of people living the quintuple star system we see in Firefly not even really knowing how they got there in the first place. That could easily be retconned in with just some new shows based in the Firefly _Verse._ Place the Unification War (2511) between the Independents and the Alliance from Firefly as part of the history prior to the First Human-Tevarin War (2544-2546) from Star Citizen, which will help explain the real-politic that explains how the UEE could have come about in the first place. The Union of Allied Planets becoming the United Empire of Earth is a more natural progression than the United Planets of Earth becoming the UEE in Star Citizen lore. The First Human-Tevarin War could be the backdrop for how those living that quintuple star system from Firefly found out the Alliance had been hiding their jump point. In telling that story, they could make more concrete the political reality where one person, Ivar Messer, could seize control of the Alliance, as a result of the Human-Tevarin War, and turn it into the United Empire of Earth. I want to see Star Citizen to become the biggest video game ever, that ultimately transcends the computer screen onto the movie and tv screen... and melding the two lores seems a good way toward that.

[@All_Hail_Chael]

@@KehvanLMAO I was making a joke about Starfield being shit. I'm not reading that novel you wrote, jesus christ man.

[@Kehvan]

@@All_Hail_Chael That's cool... I didn't even mention Starfield once in my _novel_ but I did explain how I think the Firefly and Star Citizen lore could mesh.

[@Foxintox]

We did it ! We can’t talk too much about what happened during the ETF test but this is definitely one of the most important milestones for the game’s development , definitely an « I was there » moment !

[@wafflesinsanity]

Been Evo since 2016, and I have never seen you on Spectrum for Evo testing, nor involved with feedback in Evo. How interesting.

[@smoke8220]

high quality videos as always morph, thanks for your hard work.

[@DanyF02]

Nice, I can't wait for citizen con where they announce that Pyro and server meshing is coming soon.

[@Mgtow_Monk]

We did a test yesterday boosting the cap of servers to over 200. At the end we had nearly 400.

[@User-gx3sr]

How was the server performance? Did it look like those player numbers could work ?

[@Mgtow_Monk]

@@User-gx3sr I personally only joined in at the tail end of it. The comments from others were that on the 200 end server fps was hitting 15. Only after it drifted toward 400 did it start to suffer and keep in mind this wasn't like 100 per server this was 200 per server and finally nearly 400 per server.

[@citizenoftheverse4653]

3.23 is already quite ambitious but 4.0 with server meshing is the Milestone that will finaly open the way to multiple systems and not only Pyro 🎉

[@Adrisec]

I'm so proud of the game, for being a backer since 2012 we really have come a long long way. 4.0 man...It's gonna be wild

[@Troyota]

Yo Morph, you misspelt "point" in your thumbnail. Quick, before anyone else notices! 😜

[@Ragetiger1]

Seems that the jump point reminds me a lot of the Black Holes in No Man's Sky, which they do use to jump a significant distance. Also it's from one system to another.

[@AgentXRifle]

I personally hope they take their time. We have waited awhile, I don’t want tier 0 jump points that kill you or fail most the time. I think 2025 end of year will be a damn good time to be a Star Citizen player!

[@CaptainDanger-]

I really really hope they add the Jump Rings that were there when they did the first ever JP test live

[@artuno1207]

Me too, but they said they removed them because the rings gave testers the feeling of the jump points being man-made, instead of being the natural phenomena they want them to be. So not a star-gate, but more a wormhole they just found in space.

[@CaptainDanger-]

@@artuno1207 well thats just BS.. the humans would have built the ring around the anomaly/jump point

[@festersmith8352]

@@artuno1207 But building a billboard covered highway to it, makes sense. I like the lore of the rings. Stable populated systems have them to maintain JP stability. Less troublesome entries and exits could be a factor to. If natural is most desired, then many of the la grange points could do without the gas clouds around them.

[@kiwi4kian]

Seeing as they’re testing all this 4.0 tech it really does feel like 3.23 could be an April release, or at the very least an April PTU release.

[@doubledigital_]

server meshing has nothing to do really with the content drop in the next update.. server meshing is its own little beast.. but its great news the servers are talking.. the rest is just all the lil fiddly bits as morph said. im hyped :P

[@TeamJackassTV]

This is great news. Its slowly coming together.

[@AC-bi3bz]

I saw them up the playercount to 200+ … and amazingly enough, it worked quite well !

[@joshm8662]

good to see CiG making more tangible progress now that their developers aren't fractured between the PU and S42. Even ISC has become more consistent. Here's hoping they maintain this momentum

[@Anachroschism]

Hopefully all goes to plan, and they can quickly get to the static meshing of individual systems, so we can finally have some decent server performance, and higher player caps.

[@Mithinco]

Yesss! Finally! I can't wait for Pyro!

[@donny8619]

love how the Jump point is just in the middle of an asteroid field

[@lb21a]

I think this will be literally the best game ever made, period, once it comes out. Maybe except for Lego Star Wars TCS on the Wii.

[@private_citizen]

When jumping, will there be a risk of being assigned to a different server on your return trip? Same as when you exit to menu and log back in? If you park a 2nd ship on a moon, jump to Pyro, jump back to Stanton, is your 2nd ship going to still be there on the moon? Or gone on a different server?

[@echoe2392]

I hope they plan on keeping the idea of that giant ring gate that activates and opens the wormhole

[@festersmith8352]

If you like what you see, put a ring on it. I want my ring too. Doesn't have to be every JP.

[@theutgardianchannel1952]

Starcitizen really needs to nail these updates. I was left with disappointment after starfield and I know starcitizen can make up for it once it has server meshing and FSR, and probably I'm not the only one.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Okay. I used to say 'Pyro is not in the game yet.' When this single process is in open alpha, I will say that Pyro is in the game.

[@Solizeus]

I hope the jump gate is massive, like almost planet size

[@Glitch_Gaming]

Seeing where we started to where we are now, just gives me the biggest good feels tingle ever

[@doubledigital_]

the fact this even is working is great news, but its going to take a while guys so dont get all hype .. i did warn everyone about this new patch.. the entire patch is for this YEAR.. with updates to the one we get in a month or so.. Still lots of work to do but im hyped!! Oh little edit, they will allow you to select the gate as way point just the same way we do now to planets.. so i wouldnt worry so much ^^

[@StockpileSC]

Wasn’t expecting jump pounts yet

[@bperras]

I was really happy with the player count, having over 200 players on one server with zero 30ks was amazing by itself. I however, could not get myself aligned properly to get through the JP. :')

[@sebastianhall4913]

This is awesome news! It suddenly feels like... like 4.0 will actually happen... like the vision is that much closer to become real!

[@AzztheCruel]

Thumbnail says jump "pount" mate

[@gamerairways]

Amazing news, glad to hear things are actually starting to take shape. Thanks for sharing.

[@canniballistic555]

So that's the last big technical challenge done than I guess? They resolved a lot of issues to get the tech into the engine, AFAIK Server Meshing was the last one, so if that works its just a matter of time now.

[@GNZ-uo1lr]

This is so exciting! Very positive that 4.0 will be released this summer, but most likely September. I really can't wait for 3.23, gonna be a huge leap and Morph's videos are going to be on a whole new level, especially the new mini maps that he will also review on his upcoming "An Architect Reviews'' videos!

[@JacksSpaceGames]

What an amazing milestone. I can’t wait to test it myself soon.

[@KriLL325783]

Correction: the bouncing thing wasn't alignment, it was timing, you have to go at the right time. ATC is also entierly optional atm.

[@plrrt]

60k views 4k likes, you deserve better morph, great video either way! What happens when the server cap is reached and someone wants to transfer to a full server?

[@I3ladefist]

Nice information-video Morph! Was it a two-way jumpgate or just Stanton => pyro only for now?

[@sharxbyte]

this news is so exciting to be part of. Tests are going well people!!!

[@indospartan]

When they showed it working last year I finally got the Polaris and the Perseus. Imagine this game in 5 years. RTX 6090 4k easy mode

[@User-gx3sr]

Galaxy and Perseus owner here, can’t wait for the big RSI ships 😁

[@indospartan]

@@User-gx3sr Right! Got the Galaxy too, and the Arrasrta and Orion:) RSI has such cool ships. Been thinking about getting the Idris as a carrier, but its so expensive. Might sell a few of those to CCU to the Idris. The hangar looks so nice in the last vids. Do you have a Org to play with? I'm in a group thats super friendly. Shadow Brokers.

[@User-gx3sr]

@@indospartan I don’t currently have an org, I’ve been sitting on the sidelines a bit waiting for some of these updates to roll out. If .23 ends up being as great as it sounds, I’ll definitely play more, would be great to get together with some players from your org!

[@indospartan]

@@User-gx3sr My name ingame is IndoSpartan, so you can add me when you start again. If you cant find me shoot me a message here and we'll figure something out.

[@themanyouwanttobe]

I immediately read the title in Borat's voice.

[@peterthanasse1321]

I REALLY hope that SC does something that prevents gate campinng. I played Eve Online from 2006-2017 and one of the biggest turn offs for me was the introduction of Warp Bubbles around the gates. I think of CR's Wing Commander movie when the Kilrathi jumped in and the fleet was waiting for them. Sure, it makes for a great scene from a plot perspective, but what works in a movie often sucks in a game. Cheers! Canuck2099

[@TennysonEStead]

Fortune favors the bold, indeed! Happy Stella Fortuna, Morph - and to you too, CIG!

[@GeorgeNoX]

Its been a long time coming that's for sure, hopefully once this is implemented we can start seeing more and more star systems pop in at a fairly decent rate. We had one star system for ten years, we are way past the time at this point

[@gerarderloper]

8:00 That's some extreme displacement mapping going on the ground there!

[@mysteryvoid570]

Can't wait to visit the new city Robbers in Pyro

[@Black_Intellect]

It's funny to me how many folks ( oddly even sc backers) seem weirdly compelled to minimize even the smallest good news about sc development, but very quick to latch on and emphasize even the smallest unsourced bad news about it. Please remember, being constantly cynical, or even negative, about something you want to happen doesn't protect from feeling disappointment or sadness if it doesn't. Let yourself be happy whenever & wherever you can. Life is short.

[@nixie2462]

I am wondering, did you record the session, just to have the footage comparison in the far future on how the jumpoint travel evolved? It'd be cool to see in some years.

[@prosec2]

Wow great, with this momentum we will be in beta testing in 2035. Maybe 2045 max.

[@danielmarstrand7510]

Woot 🎉

[@pvalpha]

To everyone that's surprised that things are suddenly moving... don't be. I've seen everything that's happened with SC before in other places I've worked. Smaller scale, but it works in the exact same way. I know it feels like nothing has been fixed or worked on since 2018/2019. I can guarantee that all the problems we've been experiencing? They've been working on them every single last day for the last 4-5 years. I'll go as far as to say that they've likely all been *fixed* and have been so for many of those years and that a lot of dev time has been spent on features and tech we've not seen. You might wonder why? I think it should be obvious - server meshing was the "Backend Goal" for 4.x and the 3.X series just never had that backend (and still doesn't). Everything is designed for the new backend which has a whole bunch of new interfaces and new systems. And backporting these features to the old system would be horribly painful. But they've likely done so to get feedback for a lot of the things we've been playing with in the 3.X branch. What 3.23 is going to be is a pre-release for 4.0. As much as it sucks, sometimes one piece of tech that nobody outside the devs will ever see holds the whole train up. And when that happens - nobody stops working on things. In fact, I'll wager that people were working much, much harder during the last 5 years because of it. Because they not only had to make sure things worked for the new target environment... but to get debug feedback they had to backport stuff to the old environment - which would have caused a bunch of false-bugs to pop up because the old environment really just can't handle it. I've seen this so many times in network software development/deployments. Its painful. Until its fixed when it seems like the dam just opens up and everything rushes out into the world. Just remember - they didn't hold up all this time because they were twiddling thumbs. Your bugs probably *are* fixed... for the 4.0 target. There's going to be *new* bugs that might be a thousand times worse than the old bugs. But I think CIG knows that if they have a viable backend now they need to get to shipping it asap. I think we're going to see that 12 years of work *has* been done on things. And its going to be the BDSSE.

[@NaraBoy89]

I hope they keep the 2km/s kick back for missing the gate, that will be hilarious to see live

[@taiming71]

Looks fantastic with your top end computer.

[@TimAyro]

Hell yeah, and once this is stable they can add the actual gameplay loop!

[@Tr00Story]

I'll only believe it once I see this working in the release servers with realistic loads, anything else is "not good enough".

[@OrbZero]

Probably the version you played is an old branch with only the new networking code, that’s why piro was not updated nor the jump point sphincter. Nevertheless, still impressive coming from sandbox demo at last citcon. The gameplay details, like alignment probably just need a little refinement as they are probably fully focusing the tests on the network layer.

[@AcheliusDecimus]

I am still cautiously optimistic, but this is a great time for SC. Thanks for the Widescreen format.

[@kingvinoda3896]

There's something really hilarious about saying "finally guys! After 10 YEARS of development..."

[@robertrohrer8535]

Honestly more excited for when they do server meshing at smaller scales eg 2k pop shards with with meshing breaking down to Planets and cities