Setting Sag - Dual Shock Applications

[@performancebagger3506]

Very impressed with the 412 Series Progressive rear coil overs we installed on 2021 RGS #performancebaggin build!

[@HowardOlsen]

I just bought a set of 944 Ultra standard for the rear and Heavy Duty FOrk Springs for the front as recommended by JP Cycles for my 03 FLHTCUI. It now occurs to me that if I lower the rear by an inch I need to to the same on the front. Is this correct? It also occurs to me that I didnt really need to lower the rear because I'm 5'101/2" and I flat foot just fine with the OEM shocks. COuld you confirm whether or not it will be fine riding the 944s with lowering the front? THanks

[@BeyondTheLineProductions]

You dont have to life the bike up and measure the suspension with no weight and see difference for free sag before rider jumps on? Or is that for something else?

[@Sickcents666]

My brother gave me a set of Progressive 944 4020…. What’s the 4020 mean??

[@dadabg8747]

Heavy duty... They say 250lbs+. I believe it's 320lb+

[@jakeymon22]

Ive oredered a set with standars springs, i only weigh 140 lbs and am a little nervouse i wont be able to get enough sag. Ive noticed with all the shocks ive researched they all pretty much list a spring weight fir below 250 and the heavier for 250 up and so on. Any light riders able to chime in, or progressives thoughts?

[@kentmessing3660]

Hey Jake, I'm in the same boat as you, although I weigh in at 185. I purchased a set of the 944s last year, installed them and haven't been happy with them since. My bike rides so stiff that I think I'm going to go back to stock for now. I just call the "Progressive Tech Hotline" last week and spoke to a guy and he basically said that I was at the minimum weight for that shock. So if I were you, I would look at going with something different. It's really sad that stock Harley shocks are a lot better ride (for us light weight guys) than this progressive shock. Apparently Progressive thinks every Harley rider is at least 200+ lbs.

[@jakeymon22]

Hi Kent, I have mine installed on my 02 roadking, in this video they have them being set at 11.25 inches which I dont understand at all that is not what the instructions say. My first ride I had them at 11.25 and it was terrible the harshness was them bottoming out instantly. The instruction state sag should be set at 1.2 to 1.7 from full extension which is 13" meaning they should measure around 11.8 to 11.25 I set at 11.75 and it was worlds better but do to the roads I ride in I opted to put a little more preload in to sit right at 12" and it's very nice. To my surprise that was 5 turns form zero preload even at my light weight of 140 pounds. Once my bags are on with chaps coat, some misc. Tools and rags it's probably at that 11.75 mark. Just remeber preload will not change the stiffness of the spring only ride hight. I think allot of people don't realize the harshness is the shock bottoming out and they also think that adding preload will make it stiffer which it won't. Just what I experienced, about 1000 miles on them now alomg with front cartridge setup and im happy with them

[@jakeymon22]

If your unsure if there bottoming out ride down a dirt road then ride a mile or so and look at the shafts if there shiny all the way to the bump stop that's your issue, I live on a gravel road so that's how I figured it out now if I don't hit any seriouse dips or bumps there always about an 1/8 inch of dust a above the rubber bump stop telling me there about perfect

[@Grimmeute]

I been looking at shocks for my new RG. I really like the look of your shocks. I just can’t believe how expensive simple things like these and other items are. It’s ridiculous how much overpriced Harley parts are, with how many are on the road. I can add a 7-1/2” lift kit with Bilistein shocks, plus labor, on my Chevy Truck, for less than a full shock replacement on a Harley doing it myself. I know because I just had truck lifted. Takes a shop 2 days to lift truck but you can change all 4 shocks on a Harley in less than 2-3 hours. Something’s got to give. I guess stock shocks are going to stay.

[@jonnymac8925]

I see you ended up going with Ohlins which are incredible shocks! I'm curious what you paid for those bad boys!?

[@Grimmeute]

@@jonnymac8925I love em. Made a world of difference. I want to do the front next. I believe I got them for around $950-1k.

[@guillermodelcastillo2548]

Yet here you are whining about price.

[@Grimmeute]

@@guillermodelcastillo2548 And?…. I didn’t say I wasn’t going to do it. I said looks like stock for now. Took about 6 months debating on when I wanted to throw $1k into 2 simple shocks. And I still haven’t done the front because of the ridiculous prices. It’s been around a year now and will probably be another year before I do it. Always got to be those keyboard warriors out there with their pointless comments.

[@JLK1978]

I have a set of the 944 touring shocks, with heavy duty springs. Owned them just over a year. Had them installed at Daytona bike week last March. They set my sag and installed a sticker with info inside my saddlebag. With that being said. Last few months I cannot adjust these shocks. Even with two grown people sitting on the bike. The adjuster will not move. Really sucks because we go from one to two riders all the time. Talked to y’all’s customer service and they want me to send them back, which can can take 3 months. Not expectable, for the amount of money these shocks cost. My question is. Do you have any ideas why my shocks would be doing this, can I fix them? Thanks for your time.

[@ProgressiveSuspension1982]

Are you trying to turn the adjuster with rider weight on the bike? That pressure can be too much to allow the adjuster to turn. If you're adjusting with no weight on the bike and the adjuster isn't moving, there is a chance that debris has found its way into the adjuster threads and needs cleaning. The only way to do this is to use a spring compressor to disassemble the shock and clean out the threads on the adjuster as well as the damper body itself.

[@JLK1978]

@@ProgressiveSuspension1982 I have tried no rider, one rider and multiple riders. Based on what I was told by progressive. Next step I was going to try would be jacking the bike up and trying to adjust shocks. I asked them the very question of could something be sticking or need to be lubed and they said no. Does Progressive sell the tools to disassemble the shocks? So I don’t have to send them off for months during riding season. Thanks for responding.

[@ProgressiveSuspension1982]

@@JLK1978 It's typically something that isn't normall an issue. You can find the tool to take the spring off here to get to the adjuster threads: www.progressivesuspension.com/product/1477/shock-tool-for-psi-shocks

[@JLK1978]

@@ProgressiveSuspension1982 do you think this will fix my issue? Is there a video on how to use this tool? Not a bad price.

[@ProgressiveSuspension1982]

@@JLK1978 we can’t say what the issue is without seeing the shocks in person. There isn’t a video on the tool at this time. Realistically, if it’s that hard to turn, it probably needs to be sent in for an evaluation.

[@clarktferrill]

Simple procedure made complicated..

[@stevenpierce4359]

Do you have any self adjusting shocks

[@stevenpierce4359]

I find mine to ride ruff 2020RKS