SETTING THE WRONG EXPECTATIONS - Why MLP G5 Does NOT Have Wasted Potential (Part 1)

[@EmeralBookwise]

I actually enjoy G5 well enough for what it is, and while I wouldn't entirely say its potential was "wasted", I also don't think it ever full lived up to it either. Although most of that just comes down to behind-the-scenes production problems, in particular Hasbro selling off the studios that had made the movie and handing off the follow-up series to an entirely different studio instead, effectively leaving them to start all over from scratch trying to figure out what to do with a cast of characters and a setting they hadn't created in the first place.

[@Queen_of_chaos]

Honestly The movie was great! MYM was ehh but TYT had something in store (until I rewatched MYm) . I’ve been wrong before but Gen 5 does have great potential, it’s a shame that Hasbro didn’t put enough time and energy into making the show. Your analysis was Spot on! Like you mentioned they really wanted the original mane 6 in different designs like what? I’m sorry- not a good idea. Don’t get me wrong! I love the concept art but don’t rely on the SAME CHARACTERS! 😂 Side note: I really wished we got an apology set on Queen Haven and Sunny after magic/unity was restored, same with Alphabittle but knowing Sunny.. she doesn’t hold a grudge so whatever HOWEVER, I really wished Sunny got the recognition she deserved like in both shows. (I’ve read a lot of fanfic and they are great!) maybe I’m just picky but Sunny did care about Twilight’s message, the creators just didnt put in as much effort😂.

[@mecharaptor8.535]

Your defense of G5 is and will forever be admired. Fly on, Hawk. Unfortunately, I'm afraid the only thing being wasted here is your breath. Continue the fight, regardless. We're behind you every step.

[@poseybloom55]

thanks for shutting down the g4 fans arguments against g5 and I'm excited for part 2.

[@jjthecardinal5129]

This video is just beautiful. You really outdid yourself again ^^ Thank you

[@UltraSonicRainboom]

I used to have the wrong expectations for Make Your Mark. I remember sometimes being disappointed that the show never answered the questions we had about what happened to Equestria. But I learned that I needed to accept the show for what it is, not for what I want it to be. If we make up expectations for a show and then get mad at the show for not going with our made up expectations, it's not the show's fault, it's our fault. The moment I stopped wanting to show to be something it's not and accepted it for what it is, is the moment I started to really like G5. Make Your Mark is different from G4, and that's okay. It's a good thing that it's different. It stands on it's own as a great series with great characters and stories that sometimes even got more emotional than FiM ever did. I only ever tried once in G4 during The Perfect Pear. But I found myself crying 3 or 4 times in Make Your Mark. G5 is great, and it always will be, whether people choose to accept it or not.

[@speedforcespector]

The only wasted potential is Hasbro not having the money to spend on G5

[@Mirthful_Panda]

And yet somehow, having the money to make 2 home console games

[@thefaller9860]

XD good joke, Spector.

[@speedforcespector]

@@Mirthful_Panda Anyone could ask OG Games to use their IP its kinda like giving candy IP to anyone who looks at that ball pit of a logo

[@Chowderchef]

REAL

[@AlexandraPlotnikova1]

​@@Mirthful_Panda and they used a few BILLION dollars to create their games 🤯 It looks like cartoons discrimination

[@smashbrothers13]

Once again, great analysis video! It just helped me appreciate G5 even more than I already do, especially when you pointed out Sunny's arc and her connection to Opaline, I never even noticed that before. Keep up the good work and looking foward to part 2

[@amberwilliams6999]

This generation has so much great potential just like with g4 ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@jiggyhellproductions]

To be fair i do like the g5 we got like i do hear some say "we got robbed" when it comes to the original g5 concept but like its kinda for the better since at least in g5 we got new characters rather then just rebooting the fim cast and you know that other plan stuff just glad g5 is more a part 2 of fim then a reboot but i do think you have a point i mean they just angry just because they expect g5 to be all about lore lore lore like sure it can sometime but also can be fun and enjoyable like fim did they're were episodes that were just fun one no lore or anything just fun

[@HandheldGamer1991]

What othrr plan stuff?

[@TiMoThY211991]

For me, at least, the bigger problem is that the G5 lore we do get is not at all well thought out, often conflicts with lore of G4, and even conflicts with itself in places. I literally came to dread lore heavy episodes with just how badly they botched the lore of the world.

[@jonnylou09]

Great breakdown. A lot of people seem to forget that G4 had a lot of unanswered questions within itself that fans loved speculating and writing fanfiction about. The unanswered questions in G5 allow for the same opportunities and it looks very intentional that that's how it's meant to be

[@michaelcozzi3167]

I am glad that both shows of G5 became a success. Both being a hit when released and kept being hits as well. "Make Your Mark" getting a high ranking as a top 10 show in many countries when released, and most likely all the way to the end as well, yeah, that is a success. And "Tell Your Tale" is still going of course. And the fact that it got a higher success rate than "Friendship is Magic" for the intended and general audience, and even some older fans alike, is a massive shock. Did not see that coming. Never thought G4 would be beat like that, for anything. Beating "Make Your Mark" makes some sense, I guess. But, yeah, G5 became a huge success, and we are so happy about it.

[@thaddeusr.3967]

When the G5 movie came out Hitch came so close to being the best character but was missing a certain spark. Which is where Sparky came in and solidified Hitch as my best character.

[@UltraSonicRainboom]

He was missing a certain "spark"? I see what you did there.

[@juliemesser2053]

He would have been better without that thing.💀

[@juliemesser2053]

Plus, he became a pushover and a "funny male stereotype."

[@thaddeusr.3967]

@@juliemesser2053 He has always had a fun side and Sparky just brought it out. And his strict law enforcement still remains.

[@K1ttyGam3r]

The king’s back at it again 💪 thank you again for the work you do

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

It’s my pleasure as always. I’m so glad you enjoyed it! 💯👍🏻

[@Gottobun_Kimetsu5172]

I love your interest in Generation 5 I appreciate it enormously too and I live the story of Sunny Starscout with rigor and determination I also like everything that we have been told about Opaline Arcana and Twilight Sparkle In any case I can't wait to see what happens next in October 2024 with you of course 💋 you deserve a lot of support

[@scorcher69]

tbh i think what did limit g5's writing was the fact was it was in 3d. im actually kinda glad they made tyt the main show. its so much cheaper and easier to make new places to explore and other races to befriend.

[@michaelcozzi3167]

They wanted to make this show a sequel because of the previous show's success, which makes sense, I guess. But personally, this show feels like its own thing sometimes because it is so different from the previous one. Yeah, Discovery Family got in the way of some of the issues, with sucks, but hey, I think they still did a great job with what we got in the end. It may not have turned out the way they wanted, no matter where they wanted to air the show, unless on the same channel/network of course, but yeah, they most likely did not want to do that for some reason, and/or did not want to pay too much money to someone else, because of legal issues. Or maybe because of where they released the film, they thought it may work to do that with the show, even though the movie was supposed to be released in theaters, and we all know what happened, and why the move happened. The result of legal issues may have still happened in the end.

[@aus741LX]

Wow good job man. You raised some solid counter arguments to the criticisms of the show. I do think two things can be true at once & while you didn't counter every criticism, you definitely defanged them. Expectations can imfluence your reception & it is important keep it in check. I have a video on my own criticisms for the show, as well as thoughts on how it ended up the way it did, ideas for rewrites & a soft reboot. Feel free to check it out & debate me in the comments.

[@CloudMistDragon]

Okay, I get people not getting Sunny and wanting a more serious Hitch but thinking we were going to get Queen Zipp?! What the hay?! Long story short, G5 not answering all our questions is a good thing, regardless of whatever's going on with Discovery Family. It's a soft sequel that has its own story to focus on telling, MLP's not supposed to be lore-heavy, and what we got recently in TYT Season 2 proves that G5 does know how to expand on lore well despite that. I also enjoyed how the Sunny and Hitch sections felt inspired by my essays on understanding them better.

[@jjthecardinal5129]

VERY excited for this!!! Though I won't be able to watch the premiere sadly. btw Congrats on 900 subscribers!

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

Thanks!

[@renamon5658]

Yay another g5 video

[@jjthecardinal5129]

I would also like to add that, especially as a very passionate Zipper, I was completely taken aback by the argument that Zipp should have become queen by the end of MYM, because I don't remember ever even having considered that as a serious possibility. Even if we ignore that being the complete opposite of what she wants and who she wants to be, it seems simply absurd to think that she would have become queen after essentially just one single season of the show (23 episodes+4 specials, which is a number we already knew from the atomic cartoons production pipeline before chapter 1 was released, so it's not just retrospective bias in this case).

[@TiMoThY211991]

I never would have expected her to become queen at the end of Make Your Mark, but she absolutely has never rejected her birthright, and in Tell Your Tale and especially the comics there is evidence that she is accepting of and still working toward that eventual goal.

[@Deliriam_Avalon]

Your dedication is much appereciated!

[@Harpycross]

Thank you again for this defence video 😊

[@MasonMcBride-x8o]

18:46 Woah 😮 Last Problem Twilight in MYM 3D Not a bad design 😊 though I would add a little more thickness to her proportions personally but that’s just me. Also, that facial expression reminds me of that smile Opaline did when she was trying to get Misty to come back to her 😂I loved it then and I love it here❤

[@Chowderchef]

YES YES YES!!!! I dont feel like I have much to add to what you said cause its pretty much everything Ive been saying as well!! G5 feels so well planned out and deserves far more credit than it gets. Cant wait for part 2 and hear about Izzy (I have a notebook filled with notes about her, ive always wanted to make g5 videos but i work 2 jobs i barely have free time as is ;-; )

[@Leo_ke__]

We need more g5 appreciation

[@michaelcozzi3167]

Amazing job, dude! Let the G5 haters understand why this generation is so good. I look forward to the next part video for this defense of the G5.

[@michaelcozzi3167]

@RainbowDash-TheVIllain Glad to hear it.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

Looking through the comments since this video came out, I am surprised to see that there is actually some debate going on. Granted, not all of said debate *is* an actual debate, but rather are just people posting their negative or at least not entirely positive thoughts on G5. But there is some debate, mainly when you respond to some of the more negative or critical comments, and some people debating with each other without you being involved. Regardless if I agree with their points, or find their points to be valid at all, it's a relief to not be the only one that is debating in the comments for once. Yeah, almost all of your subscribers are G5 fans like yourself, but I hardly see them disagreeing or at least asking for clarification with your points at all. also, happy Pride Month!

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

I love to see debate in the comments so long as it’s not mean-spirited. It shows that people are thinking for themselves and authentically engaging with this generation in their own unique ways. Whether or not they agree with me is up to them, but it’s great to see people thinking critically and putting their own analyses on the table. It shows I’m doing my job well. Happy Pride Month to you too!

[@abigailwooffinden3483]

Hawk I just want to say your the best KZbinr ever to review g5 unlike the hater’s you someone with a fresher and more positive mindset you also don’t act as childish as the hater’s

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

Thanks, I really appreciate that. I guess that comes from the fact that I try and look at everything with an open mind, regardless of any preconceived expectations, whereas I see that’s something other analysts appear to struggle with.

[@eddog6666]

The hate for G5 make your mark is similar to the hate that Disney Wish got. Both tell epic tales but others are so stinking focused on hating just because other hate it. That is not forming your own opinion on the matter. Excuse for using this: IT IS CALLED BEING A SHEEP! A follower for no reason but just because! ( thank you Miraculous Ladybug fandom ) Basically in miraculous ladybug a character lies about her achievements but it is so easily busted. But when it is called out the caller gets lambasted for no stinking reason.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

I have a few things to say about this discussion, so far: 1. While I still haven't gotten back into the comics, and as of right now don't plan to (At least not until you cover the comics on their own. I do have recommendations for completely unrelated comics and manga, if you're interested.), I find it pretty funny that you made a point about how people wanted Make Your Mark to have explicit focus on what happened to the remnants of FiM, rather than simply expanding on the worldbuilding of FiM through indirect contrast. Why? Because that is *exactly* what the first arc of the G5 comics was about: rediscovering what happened to Canterlot, and thus reintroducing to us the G4 world through Discord. Again, I haven't read past issue 5, so I haven't any thoughts on how this arc wrapped up, but if that really is what some fans wanted, they could have just gone to the comics and saw how it screwed up after the location-introduction aspect was done with and Discord was put front and center. 2. Ranking Top 10 on Netflix isn't an achievement of approval rating, neither with critics or viewers. It's an achievement in viewership and people rewatching it, and that alone. Netflix doesn't list any awards that Make Your Mark won; it didn't win any SAG awards, which I think it should have gotten, despite it being an animated show. The only award that it won, that I can find, was for Bahia Watson -- the voice of Misty and Peach Fizz -- winning "Outstanding Performance - Gender Non-Conforming or Female Voice" in the 2023 ACTRA Awards. And don't even get me started on the mixed reception of its viewers on IMDb (5.8/10 out of 634 reviews), Common Sense Media (5/5 from three parents, and 3/5 from seven kids), Rotten Tomatoes (68% overall audience score, and no critic score. Chapter 1 has 57% and three written reviews; Chapter 2 has 67% with four written reviews; Chapter 3 has 67% with one written review; Chapter 4 has 80% with four written reviews; and Chapter 5 and 6 have no approval ratings.), Amazon (4.4/5 from eleven global ratings, and only one of said reviews being written.), and of course Google Reviews (3.5/5 from 63 reviews, and 57% for the like and dislike buttons.). 3. Two of the comments you showed in this video, the first being at 0:35 and the second being at 2:18, remind of two things I'd like to point out, as both I agree with to an extent. I agree that people should be allowed to like what they like, and vice versa, but correct me if I'm wrong, but what you're doing is defending G5 with your own analysis, for the most part anyway. For as you've stated before, while not everyone on KZbin or other sites has reviewed G5 unfairly, there is that overwhelming majority that is still at it. In an unrelated Discord server, I saw a user (Not gonna name them, as to protect their privacy) saying that they planned on making a response video to "Why Make Your Mark Chapter 6 Is NOT A Trainwreck: A Response To beatfox15" because, and I quote, "It's fine if this individual likes MYM, but lots of the points in this video are really poor and even gatekeapy at times." Which strikes me as odd because you've partially disowned the video, and unfortunately can't prove that you have disowned it anymore, because you deleted the video where you denounced your own behavior towards beatfox. I agree even more with javierfebronio8907's stance on Phyllis. We've discussed before how, while the characters that were given focus in Make Your Mark and Tell Your Tale weren't wasted, a few notable characters from its earliest stages *have* been. Again, that being Posey, Sprout, and Phyllis. I agree with all of the points that javier made on Phyllis here: How she could have dedicated herself to rebranding Canterlogic to help other pony races, instead of just abandoning the company and factory and leaving it open for the Mane Five to take it over, the latter of which you should address with the Strawman Has a Point/Designated Hero criticisms of Top Remodel (To which TV Tropes only cites Star Strike's review for that). How she could been the one to punish Sprout with community service, as outside of blurry wanted posters in early Tell Your Tale, we don't see how Sprout went from his crimes to being amounted to community service. How she could have been shown enforcing new rules and/or approving of Sunny's attempts at leading Maretime Bay, instead of just letting Sunny become the new leader in her place. And most of all to me, how she could have been shown getting along with Haven and Alphabittle, let alone other ponies in general. What was it that we got, instead, post-movie? Phyllis makes one cameo in Roots of All Evil, and serves as the main antagonist of MANE MELODY Karaoke Beauty Salon, where she is reviled for giving career-ruining reviews. And that's it. Also, that Tell Your Tale episode was also Posey's first appearance throughout G5 as a whole, depicting her as a minor antagonist for giving Pipp 3/5 stars, which Pipp took a bit *too much* notice of.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

I do plan to address Phyllis in Part 2 as I’ll be primarily using javierfebronio8907’s comment as a baseline checklist for every argument talked about, so rest assured, I will get to that. While I agree that she COULD have rebranded Canterlogic to help with reunification, I ultimately stand by the decision the staff went with for reasons you’ll soon see, and I hope what I will say makes sense when that part comes out. What I will say now is due to the negative reputation Canterlogic might have gotten after magic returned (essentially contributing to the whole race propaganda), it makes sense why Phyllis would attempt to bury her past and close the factory following the events of the movie. On top of that, remember the ending? Phyllis never took any accountability for Sprout’s actions, instead trying to distract him with Cloudpuff, so the argument that she could’ve disciplined her son goes out the window here. She would not have done that if the resolution is any indication. Netflix also counts success primarily by viewership as do all streaming services. Despite the negative critical reception, it succeeded in getting Top 10 viewership and that’s what ultimately counted it as a success to Hasbro in terms of marketing and revenue. Probably should have clarified what I meant a bit as looking back, my wording might’ve been a little unintentionally misleading. Success in terms of viewership and critical reception don’t always mean the same thing. As for the response to the beatfox15 response video, if that person wants to make it, then fine. I’ll be happy to make a response to the response. I did say I would stop dealing with these sort of drama situations UNLESS said situation involves me or my friends, so I’ll have no problem making ANOTHER video clarifying these if I have to (just in a nicer way than I used to). I unlisted the apology videos because I felt it clogged up my channel and I didn’t want people to see all of the drama stuff I was once embroiled in as I am admittedly embarrassed by some of it, hence why I deleted the Tum response video as well. I still stand by both apologies and if I have to make that clear again, I will. So if you could get word back to that user on the Discord server, tell them that I don’t stand by my past gatekeeping in that video and that I’ve partially disowned it, but if they still choose to make their video, then I’ll be happy to respond again and put another pointless drama to rest as I always do. Angry Hawk could come out of retirement for one last hurrah if he must. I’m just trying to avoid these kinds of matters now as the response videos are something I’m not proud of. Content wise, I felt I did good. But some of my statements…oof.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic Yeah, the last scene we got from Phyllis in A New Generation was pretty dismissive, and wouldn't have indicated that she was going to have her son arrested. But to be fair to her, she clearly didn't approve of his actions when Sprout wanted to know if he was a good sheriff, despite everything that he did. And besides, I can't imagine it's any easier to send your own son to jail, than it is to send your oldest friend to jail. But someone did it anyway, and we never really saw what happened, which I guess wasn't the most necessary when Sprout isn't the focus antagonist anymore. And while I believe that Phyllis would want to redeem herself and her company, something she very much did when she and Sprout were still in power, it's understandable to conclude that she'd want to shut down Canterlogic to avoid any further controversy and conflict. Except for the fact that, again, the one Tell Your Tale episode didn't make any effort to have Phyllis be redeemable. I can understand Sprout still being a jerk, but Phyllis? I mean, come on. Haven and Alphabittle may have been the first to engage with the idea of uniting the tribes, but that was more of a result of circumstance, which Phyllis couldn't have been involved in because she had no intentions to run away like Haven or hunt Sunny down like Alphabittle. But otherwise, Alphabittle and Haven were both presented with just as little redeeming qualities as Phyllis was in the movie, Haven especially. Both Phyllis and Haven cared for their children, even if they didn't care for anyone else (Which I'm not sure about, in Phyllis's case.); Phyllis just had to draw the line at some point, and she did. Yet despite this fact, Haven and Alphabittle get a good amount of focus from then on out, while Phyllis is left behind despite having come to her senses and joined in the symbol of unification through the Argyle and Sunny portrait.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

@RainbowDash-TheVIllain Look, bud. I get that you are hyperfixated on Rainbow Dash and Queen Chrysalis. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my own hyperfixations (Right now, two of them are Smiling Critters and Boykisser). But at the same time, how about talking about what you enjoyed from G4 and G5, purely your own perspective and not what Nightwing has to say? Maybe about what you enjoyed about G4, beyond those two favorite characters of yours?

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

@RainbowDash-TheVIllain If you'd like my recommendation, I suggest taking a read of the G4 comics. Not only do your two favorite G4 characters get plenty of time in the spotlight -- Chrysalis is the main villain of the opening arc of the comics -- but there's just plenty to love in there. If I had to say which of the characters from the comics I hold a bit more to my heart than objectively better characters, it'd be the one-time villain Marine Sandwich, from Friends Forever #1. I suggest just taking a read of the issue, and decide for yourself what you think of it, rather than just taking my word for it.

[@KBone2506]

you make a lot of valid points and for all of the episodes not a thought of G4 is in my mind unless a character or location is refrerenced in G5 episodes. this might be a not so good idea, but if fans REALLY want G5 to "make sense" they should just tell hasbro to make a spin off series of G5 that focuses on G4 and they should get back to me of how that went

[@groofer1996]

hey, thanks for replying to my comment a while back. I'm gonna start making videos. also thanks for sticking up for g5 and all the content you make. /)

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

No problem. I look forward to seeing what you’re going to make. If you need any advice on content creation, you can always ask me. I’m constantly learning too. :)

[@adolfodef]

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[@speedforcespector]

I will say as Sunny biggest defender MYM not being a 25 season show so you miss like example 5 Sunny episodes lets say in S1 or something along that lines to help better define her. Rewatching TYT I was shocked at how much of a leader and role model she was so her TYT episodes really boosted the MYM ones. It is shame both shows got spread out this way. But now that MYM is done with this and TYT you can read her better as a character.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

I had a feeling I might’ve missed some episodes as TYT does flesh her out quite a bit. Can you name me the ones I missed? I might address those other episodes in Part 2.

[@speedforcespector]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic Funny enough most of them aren't Sunny episodes a lot of them are another pony episode or even a group episode. I would say rewatch S1 post Misty and Sparky being in the cast and only pay attention to Sunny you will see a lot of nuance outside the important stuff mentioned.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

@@speedforcespector Gotcha. I’ll see what I can find. :)

[@quinnhouk5369]

Wow. I didn’t know you were at 900 subs. Congrats dude

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

Thanks!

[@quinnhouk5369]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic you’re welcome

[@quinnhouk5369]

@RainbowDash-TheVIllain cool. Do you have a Discord?

[@quinnhouk5369]

@RainbowDash-TheVIllain aw. It’s ok

[@quinnhouk5369]

@RainbowDash-TheVIllain I already said it’s ok lol

[@naek8745]

Greetings, I haven’t commented in a while, and this is a great time to change that. Over all i agree with you, but there are things i want to discuss. Lore and generational gap questions Correction, what happened to the other creatures is mostly unanswered, but to this point it hadn’t had to be. Now, however, after protective spells were broken, these question better be answered. And it is already happening in TYT, so i have absolutely no complains on this topic. “Story being about discovering old places would be counter productive to the narrative” Indeed, but don’t stop at extremes, they could've include just a little more. This would’ve helped to show how world have changed. Sure, such an episode wouldn’t fit in chapter 5 or 6, but before that it could’ve work. Zipp’s curiosity and keen eye, Izzy’s knowledge and respect of unicorn traditions, Sunny’s search for guidance in history and Misty’s knowledge of past from Opaline, all seems like elements, allowing to create interesting episodes about discovering past. Yes, i just want “Traditional unicorn sleepover” part 2 (it was such a good episode) :) Over all, indeed, they should have not make those too often, otherwise it would bee too much of a fanservice and would hinder story. But still, i can’t shake thought that they could’ve done more with it. ”Sometimes a mystery should be left for theories” - absolutely, but accent on sometimes. We still have some big questions like how Sparky’s egg ended up at Maretime bay. Since there aren’t many dragons, and those were sleeping anyway, I can’t think of proper explanation, and see this as a deus ex machina, rather than a mystery. Just like with Opaline’s three disappearance, if writers want it to be mystery, they must accent our attention on it, otherwise it seems like a plot hole. “G5 was never about discovering past, and Sunny being fascinated with ideas of past, rather than history” - i couldn't agree more, and I’m surprised how many people can’t see it. Sunny I always thought of Opaline and Sunny's dynamic as selfishness against selflessnes. Opaline believes she must rule because of her blood, but never she gave a single thought about her to be subjects. Sunny, on the other hoof, never wanted power nor fame, but she did all she can for the ponies. Her actions may be wrong, sometimes, but they always come from her desire to help others. Opaline is alone because she is selfish, not the other way around. So I’d arque that selflessnes is more important than friendship here, but those are synonymous, so its not that important. Hitch Yes Zipp But about Zipp I disagree almost completely and really want you to explain your point. Firstly, I’ll explain my take on character, so you better understand my opinion (This characteristic is based only on the movie). Zephyrina “Zipp” Storm Role: Main character (not protagonist) Physical characteristics Age: 20-30 Sex: F Home: Zephyr Heights - Palace Profession: - Interests: Flight Race: Pegasus Social characteristics Older princess and heir to the throne. Respected as part of royal family. Don’t want to become queen. Psychological characteristics Dreams and values: Truth. To bring flight and unity back. Positive Values: Courageous, Honest, Athletic, Observant Negative Values: Unsociable, Risky Neutral Values: Serious Special: Sometimes sarcastic. So, in my opinion, Zipp is not rebelling against becoming a queen, but against lies of her family. And she is taking active role in this - investigating abandoned station, releasing Sunny and Izzy, helping to steal pegasi crystal e.t.c. But after the movie flight is returned, lies are exposed and forgiven. Now she begins a new arc. She still don’t want to be a queen, but in the end of first chapter she agrees on a compromise with her mother - “...I just need more time to figure things out. To investigate magic. To explore who I am, before I’ll take on my royal duty…”. Here, her “rebellion” ends. MYM sets up arc of her growing as a person and learning to be a queen. (Or you saying she lied to her mother?) But if this isn’t enough for you, we also have TYT. In s1ep1 we see how she specifically hates attention and royal symbols. Probably because before her status was built on lies, and she felt unworthy of all this before movie. Even more importantly, in s1ep3 she don’t want to take charge of flight school, but in the end she is proud of her students, she even liked this job. (You know this feeling, when you helped someone with hard job, and you happy and proud, but don’t want to do it again? I think that’s it). So she is slowly warming up to being in charge. In s1ep17 she actually becomes a queen for a day! She realises how hard her mother’s job is and if that’s not part of her becoming a queen arc, I don’t now what is. Although, I am struggling to put these on Blake Snyder’s beat’s list, but I know it is parts of an arc! I believe, i proved that this arc is established in both shows, lets move on to how it “doesn’t fit Zipp” (not your quote). Firstly, you said that Zipp’s desire to explore and find truth is rebellious. Can you please elaborate? In my mind those concepts are not connected at all. Ponies are rebelling against something, Zipp isn’t stopped from exploring, so who or what she rebelling against? Why are you saying that queens can’t be rebellious? Just look at history. Peter the Great, for example, left Russia to learn from european masters as a commoner, (tsar leaving country was unthinkable back then) returned, and built Russian Empire in european image. Many nobles at the time hated him, but against their will, he ruled in his own way and led his country to greatness (it didn’t last long, but that’s story for another day). Or Napoleon, being a revolutionary hero and very progressive emperor, who fought against all of European monarchies. Or what about opposite - conservative in progressive’s ranks? Paul, was hated by everyone for destroying his mother - Catherine the Great’s legacy (enlightenment reforms) and creating military order in most spheres of life. There are many more examples of truly rebellious monarchs, but i hope you got my point. Zipp doesn’t have to do everything exactly like her mother (though Haven is a good queen), she can rule in her own way. You also said, that Pipp may be a better ruler and I really want to know why. She’s very emotional, doesn’t really think things through, and she just not fit to rule. Even more, Queen Haven is absolutely shure who is going to take her place, even knowing about Zipp resentment. She depicted as caring mother in both shows, so I don’t think she would make Zipp queen against her will if she had a choise. Now, from a creative perspective. Sunny and Misty already have arcs about being themselves, so why don’t have opposite one for a change? It is natural for Zipp's character. Even her main arc moves her in that direction - she calms down and accepts Misty. Just as she will with her duties one day. As you said "she wants to be more responsible and mature". So in the end, I believe people got mad over MYM not continuing arc established in TYT, and didn’t notice how it was reasonably postponed in MYM, to give room for another one. What will you say about all of this? I'm looking forward to see your response. Thank you and have a good day.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

Thanks for providing your analysis on the matter. Allow me to explain what I mean by Zipp’s perceived arc. By virtue of rejecting the stuffy palace life and instead wanting to explore what goes on in the world, Zipp is rebellious and desires to be independent. While I do acknowledge that some parts of TYT give her a position of leadership, it is only temporary and it’s never something I felt Make Your Mark was interested in establishing. Yes, in Chapter 1, she said “I just need more time to figure things out.” But that can mean one or two things. Either it’s clearly established that she is going to become queen after a certain point of time, or it can be left up for future stories to accomplish. Keep in mind, I never said that this was a story that “G5 wasn’t interested in.” I specifically said “Make Your Mark.” If you remember from that scene, the writers make it explicitly clear what exactly they want to do with Zipp through her dialogue, and that is give her time to find her self-identity and grow into a more mature individual before she has to ascend to the throne. As I already said, I don’t know for sure whether the culmination of this will never happen as even TYT includes nods to it, but her arc throughout Make Your Mark never was about slowly becoming queen. It was about finding herself and putting her on the path towards EVENTUALLY doing that. She’s finding her own way towards this path. She won’t have to become queen for a long time until Queen Haven dies. What that scene is essentially saying is, “I know that my ascension is inevitable, but I want time to become my own person before I have to worry about this looming destiny.” Her arc throughout the show was her exploring her passions, learning lessons, and leaning away from that royalty aspect. She doesn’t want to become queen in the same vein as her mother. She wants to do things differently, hence why she never undergoes any training, or anything like that. Make Your Mark was all about preparing her for this through showing Zipp learning what it means to care about others and be responsible. It didn’t need to lean into her royalty aspect to do it. I fully believe that one day, she’ll have to take the throne being the firstborn, but we don’t necessarily need to see that onscreen, nor was Make Your Mark in any way concerned with leaning into that royalty aspect because that’s not who Zipp is.

[@adolfodef]

OK. I got this! -> By marrying a unicorn, Queen Haven is effectively "ending" her Pegasus Royalty Dynasty. . Princess Mystical Arcana [defacto "daughter" of the (brief) Tyrant Queen Opaline Arcana] will take the now "Crown of Equestria" [not merely Zephyr Heights] from her (second) adopted mother Queen Haven. -> Bonus points if by mastering the Spellbook of "Swirl Star" she also gets alicornhood. Zipp & Pipp can be kept (officially) as "co-regents" ruling alongside their "sister" from the sides (to keep the Pegasi Nobility pacified); when in practice they will be more of ambassadors to other kingdoms (while Misty keeps in tight control of the "nukes"). -> Sunny will stay in Skyros with her mom & sisters.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

​@@adolfodefWait, why would Sunny's mother be in Skyros? I mean, she could, but I'm pretty sure that Written in the Starscouts was implying that she was dead, much like her husband after her. And what do you mean, sisters? Until we get confirmation that Sunny has some alicorn blood to her, I really want to know what basis you have for making these claims.

[@Longma1]

Ok then, great viewership of the shows, but what about the toy line? You know, the original purpose of the cartoon according to Hasbro? How's that doing? 🤔 (Thinking of some reports, as well as my own experience, of there being very little presence of MLP merch in the toy aisle in stores. . .)

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

Well, good toy sales are one of the only reasons why Season 2 got greenlit. I remember hearing they’re selling good somewhere, enough for Hasbro to be confident in continuing this generation, but for the life of me, I have no idea where.

[@adolfodef]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic China, Russia & India. -> It is mosty produced & sold ""locally"" (whole East Asia & The Middle East), hence why nothing is ever "seen" in USA & Europe [who publish things in english]. You may had noticed in recent years how there is now much more pony animations popping out on Bilibili & the "repeater" channels on KZbin [not producers of the actual content].

[@adolfodef]

Trivia: The reason why the "nicknames" of the G5 Mane Six are so short & similar, is to avoid TRADEMARK™ nightmares when trying to sell to asian markets (as they insist on changing long character names IF there is no "proper" way to write them with kanjis (as each syllable must have its own independent meaning & should "make sense"). -> You can NOT have just a "Princess Petunia Petals"®, or "Princess Zepherina Storm"® but adding "Pipp"™ & "Zipp"™ on the front of the packaging [with a very specific font & color] is fine.

[@adolfodef]

I should also add that HASBRO is NOT (currently) a "Toy Company" [at least in practice]; but a "Game Licence Company" (more specifically: "Magic The Gathering" & "Dungeons & Dragons" in order of $$MONEY$$). . Because of some [super ancient, sacred, relic] "Foundational Pathos" of the original company ("Hassenfeld Brothers"), they can not just "sell out" their FRANCHISES when they are not profitable [they are kinda like "collectors" themselves, but of Trademarks & IPs], who will prefer to put them in cold storage on a "Vault" for years. My Little Pony & Transformers are not "cash cows" (currently); but it is NOT expected for them to be "risky money sinks" either [this is both a good & bad thing ("some" production is guaranteed to happen, but no MEGA-productions like the Micheal Bay Movies)].

[@renamon5658]

Will there be a part 3 or only 2 parts

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

Only two parts.

[@taigarouteprotestor]

I think mlp G5 especially the movie is MID but it has some nice life lessons & has really stuff i connect to,the show & the movie speaks about it themes in a mature way and it also got catchy songs, colorful & engaging characters. The VIllain isn't terrible shes also mid. Despite me thinking mlp g5 is average+ most mlpg5 reviews are hypocritical,nonsensical & foolish at the point that they are unbearable to watch or straight up annoying.

[@speedforcespector]

I wish in the cooking show episode forgot the name. You missed talking about how it helped Misty realized she has been abused by Opaline and needs to find a way out.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

The focus of the section was on Sunny when I was talking about that episode, so I had to leave Misty’s part out in order to be concise. But I can assure you I will talk about Misty’s moment when I finally talk about Chapter 4 in my second Make Your Mark defense video.

[@speedforcespector]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic Oh cool that makes sense felt odd to bring up Hitch but leave out Misty. Very cool and I can't wait

[@zohaibamin8836]

I'd argue that g4 has wasted potential in certain areas, mostly with Equestria Girls, they could've done so much with a superhero musical spin off, they just copied it. Example, when the pillars were giving us their view on why Stygian became evil, it showed the Dazzlings. Where have I seen them before? Oh right, in Equestria Girls.

[@izzymoonbow36]

are you going to make a video on why sunny claiming the factory isn't a crime like some people claim if you know what I mean.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

That’s going to be in the second Make Your Mark defense video, so don’t worry. I even did some research on property taxes and the like to be sure what I say in that section is accurate.

[@fairlystitchpony3181]

Well i hope for those g4 series characters to be return to be continuing in this sequel called my little pony friendship is forever and I think these g4 and g5 characters would gonna be crossovered into a movie called united ponyverse which is not cancelled it will be release in 2025 and I also think then this g6 series would gonna have a reboot by g4 and g5 to be in this series called camp cutie mark

[@Philomenapipp4petals]

in 2 days the new g5 console game zephyr height mystery will be released on consoles are you going to get it?

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

I don’t have any sort of gaming console system, so the way I “play” the games is that I watch video walkthroughs of the whole thing. I’d love to get a console at some point, but I wouldn’t really call myself a gamer anyway. I’m definitely going to review the game though providing there’s enough high quality footage from other people’s playthroughs for me to work off of.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

​@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublicNot even a computer? A Maretime Bay Adventure and A Zephyr Heights Mystery are *both* available on Steam, so if you truly want to play them, you can buy them there. Only costs $40 plus taxes, a pop!

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

@@SmokeTheHorsehog I have a computer. Huh, I didn’t know you could play them through a laptop. Well, I’ll have to think about it, though $40 does sound pretty expensive for the amount of money I do have to spend on these sort of things, so…who knows?

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic And if you're interested, there are some MLP-inspired pony games on Steam. And as they're all indie, they're all rather cheap. Those I'd recommend are D'LIRIUM, Slaughter Horse 2, and Filly Astray. There's also MareQuest and Get Your Tentacles Off My Waifu, but they aren't my cup of tea.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic Oh yeah, and there are some other non-MLP pony games on Steam. There's of course the fighting game Them's Fightin' Herds,but I recommend checking out D'LIRIUM (a pony survival horror), Slaughter Horse 2 (basically a Cupcakes simulator where you are Pinkie), and Filly Astray (a beat em up platformer starring Anonfilly).

[@Eisenwald64]

I would only partly call it wasted potential, but rather I call it creative differences between G5 and G4. They were going for something lore-deep but not as deep as G4, since TYT is intended to be a KZbin series of shorts for easy viewing. Me, I saw some of TYT and I may get flak for this, but I hated how some of the stories were told; the Blockywockies felt like plot but not enough theme, and Allura not being a serious threat. However, for what it was trying to do, it sure was creative with it. It was Izzy venturing out of her comfort zone for new ideas, which intorduced us to something... aquatic. Very cute. However, it helps to put myself in a proper mindset for this series. I have to remind myself of the target audience. Growing up, I grew to hate most cartoon villains, being spoiled by the likes of Roodaka (LEGO slipped a dominatrix into a children's franchise): kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2rcYYWJm894fdksi=eoiP5erzmcv9bbNe On top of that, given what a sheriff like Hitch should have training on, if Oplaine is gloating and laughing, that would be a great time to do this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYKuo6B6gducoNEsi=jZcV9801YkaB5t1z But TYT is intended for children to watch on breaks, after school and/or on the way to school. FiM and MYM were intended for family viewing.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

First, I need to rewatch The Blockywockies to refine my thoughts on it, but I definitely agree with how Allura was portrayed in that episode. She is shown to be a lot more empathetic towards her sidekick, Twitch, but at the same time loses the threat level she had in Secrets of Starlight when she's defeated by the Nova Charm activating without provocation. I would have either removed Allura and Twitch from the episode, or given them more focus alongside Izzy, so the conflict with her isn't resolved without effort on Izzy's part. Second, I watched a lot of Top 15 Most Hated Video Game Characters lists as a kid, so my understanding of what makes a bad character were very misconstrued, and they were for a long time. Today, I feel that you can hate a villain for their actions, but not necessarily hate them as characters if they are still entertaining and/or well-written villains. That's more along the lines of "love to hate," or even "hate to love." What makes a bad villain is a villain that either is incompetent or does little to the plot, despite them being taken seriously throughout, or a villain that is heinous but isn't well written. Say, them being redeemed despite them lacking redeeming traits or having a backstory that contradicts any reasons why we should sympathize with them. It's why I initially hated Opaline as a character. Third... yeah, no. Hitch did ultimately stand up to Opaline in Roots of all Evil, even though he lost. But him pulling an Indiana Jones on Opaline isn't something that he would be able to do, even if he wanted to. He's not a powerful magic user, and did the best with what he could with his Earth pony magic, unlike someone like Starlight who was experienced with magic from the start. And speaking of Starlight, Hitch pulling an Indiana Jones seems a *bit* too reminiscent of this fanwork by Tiarawhy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXrPnoN_jLWXjbs

[@Eisenwald64]

@SmokeTheHorsehog I just have a darker approach to writing; a byproduct of growing up on Bionicle. That was written by the former editor of the Star Wars d6 RPG, and the series became Locecraftian and harrowing, even for a toy series. Nice animation, but I view Hitch pulling an Indiana Jones as common sense! Doing his job! On top of that, I wish the dragons got to use their power more unless it was cut for time.

[@geov8979]

You know, Mr. Nightwing, you remind me of Sunny Starscout. Someone with firm convictions, a positive view of the world, and a determination to make other people like what you do. To make people see the truth. Me, on the other hand, I'm a bit more uncertain. I never liked G5, and I don't think I ever will. Does that mean I think it's a bad show? In my opinion, if a story helps somebody, then it's not a bad story, and this story helped you, so I can't say it's bad. But that doesn't make me like it. You're right to say that a lot of the criticism levelled at G5 was ill-thought-out and wrong. It's part of something that has come to the fore recently, which I call the 'hatedom'. People get invested in a previous property that was good, in this case G4, and then it ends and they get a new story that they don't like, so they hate on it, and yet keep watching it because they got invested in the last show. MLP: G5 does not deserve the hate it's getting, but it honestly doesn't really deserve the attention it's getting, either. If it wasn't for G4 most of these people would never have known or cared about some kid's show. It had the wrong audience tuning in right off the bat. Then again, it's not like G5 is some misunderstood masterpiece, either. It often struggles to have a coherent plot, good animation, and a well-delivered message. Maybe you can't see how the show could have been done better, but I certainly can. Let me give you an example. You mentioned how g5 answered the question of "Why did the pony tribes split up?" with "Because of Opaline's lies, they no longer felt safe near each other." And for you, I guess, that's enough. But for me it's not. "Why was Twilight unable to stop Opaline without having to give up magic? Didn't she have students, or students of students, that could have just rainbow lasered Opaline?" "By the time of G4, the pony lineages were so mixed that two earth ponies had a pegasus and a unicorn as children. How can you justify the three tribes splitting up over 'distrust' when it would require kicking out their own siblings, parents, children, and not just once, but over hundreds of years as latent genes cropped up? That's rather dark for My Little Pony, don't you think?" (This is leveled against G4 too, by the way). "G4 ended with the message that 'the magic of friendship grows'. Doesn't Twilight falling so easily to Opaline and ponykind being split up without some kind of crazy, reality-warping event invalidate G4's entire message? Didn't Twilight already beat villains who wanted to conquer Equestria by dividing it in The Ending of the End? What changed to make that possible?" And don't even try to explain all that away. It won't work. I just don't think the way you do. Like Sunny, you're so convinced that your own point of view is the whole story that you don't try to think of things from other people's standpoints. The fact is, you have lower standards when it comes to storytelling than a lot of people. It's no use telling a college "Look, this student's got a 60% grade, you should let him in", when that college only accepts 90% grade students. It's not that you're wrong about G5 being good, it's that 'good' means different things to different people. That's why your crusade isn't going to 'vindicate' G5. All the talking points and reasons in the world aren't going to make somebody like a show. That said, I do respect you as somebody who is willing to take the show on its own merits rather than complaining about how it doesn't live up to your standards. There's a place for both of us in the world, and I'm not going to look down on you if you don't look down on me. I'm not saying I'm the One True Critic, I just want you to understand where I'm coming from. You don't need to prove that G5 is a great story in order to be able to like it. Seriously, it's just ones and zeroes. The greatness lies in how you see it. And nobody should be ashamed of liking what they like. Anyway, thanks for the videos. I really have enjoyed them.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

Thanks for sharing your perspective, but I think you misunderstand me. I’m not trying to get everyone to love G5 for the exact same reasons as I do, nor am I convinced of such an outcome being realistically possible. It doesn’t matter to me if someone doesn’t care for G5 all that much. No, what I fight against is not any and all criticism, but unfair criticism, meaning critiques that are A) based on nostalgia blindness and nothing else, or B) misunderstand something about either show and/or provide a false narrative on it. That is what I fight against: the hate, not reasonable criticism. I can only share my perspective and it’s up to my audience to form their own conclusions based off of what I say. I may strongly recommend G5 and think it’s amazing overall (certainly not a masterpiece as a whole, but still very great), but others may not think the same and that’s okay. The purpose of my channel is to open a dialogue between both sides of the MLP community and encourage people to think for themselves, not letting the hate narratives influence them. I encourage people to give G5 a fair chance (or second chance) based off of what I see in it and if they do so and still don’t like it, then that’s completely fine. What matters in the end is not what I think, but what others think. I can only hope they agree, but I can’t control whether they do or not. It’s the perspective of the general audience that truly matters in storytelling. Tell Your Tale and Make Your Mark don’t have the same appeal that FIM did, and they never will. They’re different shows telling different stories, and I think they work that way. I don’t think my standards are lower than others just because I enjoy them. That’s a logical fallacy. In reality, all standards matter and just because you may see something differently doesn’t make your standards lower than the other person. That’s the myth that most people believe, but the truth is that there are no “high standards” or “low standards.” It’s just your own perception of something, and that’s subjective no matter what. The real problem lies with people refusing to give it a chance at all because it’s “not what they were used to.” It’s something that’s been prevalent since the movie came out. I absolutely respect others who don’t think this generation is for them, and when they comment such, I always do my best to understand why they feel that way, see things from their point of view so that I can understand their point of view. There’s no point in being close minded to those who have different opinions than you, and that’s something the hatedom doesn’t understand. Rather, I offer empathy towards those who haven’t given this generation a fair shot and I encourage them to do so, fully knowing that there’s a good chance they might not see what I see in it. That’s natural. Even back in FIM’s day, people never agreed on what was the best episode, whose Best Pony, or the overall quality of certain seasons. But you know what they did agree on? That the show was worth their time and worth watching, and that’s what I push for. Saying that something is “worth watching” doesn’t mean it’s some masterpiece, or that it’s unconditionally amazing. It means that there are certainly flaws, but there are also enough good elements to give it a try. Does that mean people will think it’s good? Who knows? The Brony fandom I knew wasn’t a hive mind that always agreed on everything like I said. People had different opinions on different things, and that’s what made it fun. The fandom I knew wasn’t… *this* cesspool of negativity and I fight to restore the fandom I once knew and loved, for as flawed as it was. I don’t want everyone to think the exact same way I do, far from it. I want to encourage civil, fair, and unbiased discussion. Notice how I said that my endless quest is to convince the fandom that G5 “doesn’t deserve the hate it gets,” that being the unfair and unjust hate. I never said “I want everyone to think like me and love this generation unconditionally.” There are valid reasons for not liking something, as there are for all pieces of media. G5 as a whole is not a masterpiece by any means, but it is misunderstood. It’s important to separate the two adjectives. I judge G5 by my standards only, and I encourage others to use their own critical thinking skills to form their own conclusions. I stand against mob mentality, hive minded hatred, that sort of thing. What I really want is for people to think and go on their own journeys of discovery. Will they like what G5 has to offer? Maybe, maybe not. It’s not up to me, it’s up to them. I certainly try to help others try and see where I’m coming from, maybe even hope they agree, but it’s not always guaranteed, and I accept that. And there is a valid reason to explain the three pony tribes division. It was something I covered in this video itself. Twilight and her friends initially won against Opaline using the Magic of Friendship, but Opaline fought back and resorted to darker means of overthrowing Equestria according to Spike’s backstory. This led to Twilight sending the each pony race away with a Unity Crystal to protect their magic and the distrust grew overtime due to separation. It had nothing to do with Opaline lying to the populace. That was just the bedtime story that Sunny recounted in “The Traditional Unicorn Sleepover” that didn’t involve Opaline at all. I know you said explaining wouldn’t work, but I do feel obligated to clarify regardless. I hope that makes sense. Ultimately, I think G5 has a great story overall and I stick to that because it’s my opinion. That doesn’t mean others will think the same, and I understand that. But you’re definitely right about me being like Sunny Starscout. I am inspired a lot by her, hence why she’s my favorite pony. 😁

[@PatriotMapper]

“Why didn’t G5 commit to being a G4 sequel and explore old G4 locations????” A New Generation shows the group traveling past the Tree of Harmony, meaning they’re in what was once the Everfreee Forest, and the comics have them go to the ruins of Canterlot and meet Discord. G5 absolutely committed to being a G4 sequel, these locations just didn’t serve as necessary additions to the plot of MYM. The people making these criticisms are unaware of the fact that their criticisms are just objectively false because the comics exist and ANG literally takes place in what used to be the Everfree Forest.

[@TiMoThY211991]

I cannot accept that the tree they pass in the middle of a huge open field in ANG was the Tree of Harmony. How does it make any sense that the wildest untamed part of Equestria that has existed for thousands of years, over the course of a few hundred, got obliterated so entirely that nothing of the forest remained, save for the regrown Tree of Harmony? Geology, ecology, and/or botany don't work that way. Especially not the Everfree Forest, which had defeated any attempts to tame it, and could barely be kept back from encroaching on developed lands!

[@drewmorris7686]

These people just have no idea on what they are even doing anymore.

[@jidenewaite5441]

tbh I don't hate g5 I just think that the g4 reboot would have been better

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

@@jidenewaite5441 I personally don’t think so. G4 was iconic and always will be, obviously, but all good things must come to an end at some point. Nothing lasts forever, no matter how good it is. The whole point of the final episode was about embracing change and moving forward. We said goodbye to these characters in a beautiful final song. Even if we did get a reboot, it would never recapture the same magic as the original. I always say, “be careful what you wish for” when it comes to this kind of stuff. A G4 reboot sounds cool on paper, but…then what? It would just deliver more of the same instead of G5, which offers something new.

[@jidenewaite5441]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic your right but they should of example more but g5 is not end I think very bad thing will come good g5 can tell your tale can help with that but g4 is gone and we cant do nothing about it I really love g5

[@shanehanlan336]

Rather have what we didn’t get. The one issue is the HUB/ Discovery has the rights to FiM characters and hasbro can’t use them with paying. Hasbro decided to keep them out of the story as much as possible. I am happy you like Gen 5 but the original reboot idea would have worked and done better. I watched MLP MYM on Netflix just hoping it would get better so I imagine a lot of the views was from fans hoping it would get better. They destroyed the history, ruined the world FiM built. If they wanted a new story they should have put it in a different universe far from FiM. You covered the rights issue after I posted this.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

I gotta disagree wholeheartedly that the reboot idea would have worked better. I’d rather have new characters and a unique story that builds on what came before than just…FIM 2.0 with nothing fresh to say. The whole rediscovering mythology aspect and building on what came before makes Gen 5 so much more interesting as a sequel. And no, it did not destroy the history nor the world that FIM built. I find that notion to be ridiculous as I pretty much covered at length why this isn’t the case. The only thing you can kinda say retcons what was previously established with zero explanation is the fact that the other creatures have their own “cutie marks.” But things like how the Sun and Moon used to be controlled manually (as established by Opaline’s dialogue in Chapter 4), the Together Trees being grown the same way the Tree of Harmony was grown, cutie marks still being representative of a pony’s special talent and core attribute, the dragons still referring to their leader as “Dragon Lord,” magic being used to control the weather (as established in the TYT episode “Where the Rainbows Are Made”), alicorns having the power of all three tribes, dragon fire having magical properties (as seen in both Spike and Sparky’s cases), all of this is in keeping with prior G4 lore. I recommend you rewatch MYM with a more close eye and you’ll see that it barely retcons anything that was previously established.

[@alejoarts5219]

​@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic Facts🎉

[@sparkletimelegoreviewother9077]

Oh Shut Up, You Are Idiot

[@arakim47]

I loved G5 in some way, alone when you don't watch Generation 4, is good. But one question I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT... WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE CREATURES?1 I can understand ponies and dragons but WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS? LIKE THE YAKS, THE HIPPOGRIFFS, THE CHANGELINGS AND EVEN THE GRIFFINS WERE IN THE FINAL EPISODE OF G4, IF THIS WAS A SEQUEL MAYBE EXPLAINING WHERE THEY GONE TOO! And that is is all I want to know right now, everything else is fine in my book. And thank you for defending the good parts of G5.

[@AlexandraPlotnikova1]

Another creatures come back gradually. Hippogriffs returned in the first Tell Your Tale special, when Izzy met a sea pony named Destiny

[@arakim47]

@@AlexandraPlotnikova1Thank you, I never watched it so never knew. Nevermind, maybe My Little Pony Generation 5 won’t be so bad. I mean I like it, for the better explanation, I don’t have a grudge against it if that is answered but the characters writing, like Sunny, Izzy, Misty, Zipp, Pipp, Hitch, all are kinda naive. Like what? Like the episode when Opaline pretends to be Sunny and is like: “Hi! I’m you.” Sunny is then being: “Oh you’re me!” Why didn’t she even question something for a few seconds? And not to point the fact that Opaline’s body colour is a eye-hurting magenta, but she’s gone anyway so we won’t see that again, at least they fixed it in the 2D one. My friends texted me photos of it. And I hope they fix the character’s dumb personality into at least: it’s fine I can handle it one. So anyways, Generation 5 is fine, I can handle it and one day maybe even love it like Generation 4, but it needs some annoying things fixed, and then we are fine. But seriously at least they are way better, like compare G5 to G1, G2, and G3.

[@Longma1]

​@@AlexandraPlotnikova1 Mm, I wouldn't classify the seaponies as hippogriffs just yet. They might be different once again.

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

@@arakim47 I used to be among those who found Opaline's design not at all easy on the eyes. Especially at first glance in Chapter 2, and even more so when we had no idea who she was in Chapter 1. But now after rewatching a good amount of G5, and watching fan projects like Hawk's defense videos and various fan animations, I've gotten used to Opaline's design. Even in Chapter 1, I don't mind the look of her there, anymore.

[@catnunez]

I was actually starting like G5 but then MYM was dropped. I think if they'd kept going with it eventually we'd see the connections between G4 and G5. It was getting pretty good actually. I don't watch TYT because I cannot get passed the shite ass animation style. Even worse than G4.5 style. So I have no idea what the story is doing or how things are now. I don't really connect TYT with MYM, they feel like separate stories to me.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

That’s a little extreme, don’t you think? The G4.5 style was way worse in my opinion. The abysmal quality didn’t really help things either. Here, the intention is to make the ponies look diverse from each other and it works. Plus, the art style has at least grown on me. I used to not care for it either, but it has its charm. I honestly believe you should give TYT a second chance. Season 2 is going really strong at the moment and it’s already rectified a lot of the bad elements from the first season.

[@catnunez]

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublicI can't say that I agree on it being extreme. Both 4.5 and TYT seem pretty lazy to me. The designs of both don't make them look very pony like, imo. They just seem like some weird mush to me. It's off putting. Even if the story is great, I'm too distracted by the style to notice.

[@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic]

@@catnunez Well every generation has its own style and I think the diversity of the designs suit this generation very well rather than having everyone look uniform. I wouldn’t really call it lazy, but I can understand not being able to get past how something is animated. Being an animation nerd myself, the art style is something I pay attention to. Still, if you could ever put that aside, I think you’ll find a lot to enjoy storywise going into this season.

[@moisieiev7124]

As person who thinks that G5 has waisted it's potential, but for the same time defends G5 from an unfair hate, I'll tell my position. I think that for a sequel/legacy story it is essential to be focused on rediscovering the past. If it never does, it's not a sequel but a spin-off, that is focused on different location and is not connected to the main plot of the original story. And if it's a spin-off, then what's the point to place it into different era, making this whole story with Equestria's fall? This story could have worked with any background characters from FIM, that could be happening at the same time with FIM series. For me personally, the good example of a sequel story, are the Star Wars sequels. The reason is because the main characters explore the past by finding old characters: Luke, Han, Leia, and eventually become their successors after learning lessons from them at the end of the story.