Setting up Lancer (what you need to know, and a little extra)

[@Eleven217]

"Being able to know EVERY MECH is an unreasonable expectation of yourself" Joke's on you I'm into that shit

[@thatturtlegm]

hahahahaa

[@rotisseriepossum]

literally everyone i play w is like this and theres me like 'that one pretty'

[@svenabel2987]

Meanwhile me, with 349 Frames on my Comp/Con: "I'm tired, Boss"

[@IcarusMundi]

Empakaai, GO!

[@thatturtlegm]

@@rotisseriepossum Lol

[@timbomb374]

I gotta admit the idea of being able to seperate the character roleplaying from their abilities in combat sounds pretty great. The character isn't just defined by what they can do in combat

[@Google_Corporation]

This is one of the best parts for sure! I have played in LANCER and recently ran a year long ICON campaign, which is Tom's (the author) other game. It's a mythic fantasy game inspired by Legend of Zelda, Final Fantasy, Shadow of the Colossus, etc. You have a completely separate class for your narrative (called a bond) and a class for your combat (called class+job). My players and I really loved this, as there's no reason you can't be good at both narrative and combat! 5e tends to balance both together, so it's hard to be great at both. But if you think about it... There's no reason you can't be good at both. If everyone can do it, then why not? It just makes everyone have more fun! This is a design philosophy that applies to the rest of the game too; in both systems, you will have multiple abilities that are extremely strong, often with no limits on use. 5e would have you believe that's broken, but no! Everyone has it, so it's balanced, but more importantly, no ability is always good. Take 5e action surge for example; surging would always be a good idea if you had unlimited uses. In LANCER and ICON, abilities will have a cost, not always be useful, etc. By having that be your decision-driver instead of having limited resources, combat becomes much more interesting!

[@thatturtlegm]

MHHMMM, if you are interested in more of these style of games I suggest looking into blades in the dark, and beam saber!

[@bobhill-ol7wp]

That's pretty much every ttrpg except 5e

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Lancer is gonna get more popular thanks to Armored Core 6

[@thatturtlegm]

So hype for that game... once I get enough money for it... or storage space... or time... but HYPED ANYWAYS

[@elispencer760]

For real. I’m guessing that’s how Lancer videos got into my algorithm was because of Armored core. That’s how I got introduced last week

[@thatturtlegm]

@@elispencer760 very excited for AC to come out, I cant play it atm, but im happy to see gameplay nonetheless

[@starofaetherius]

That was how I found Lancer! I was guzzling up mech content and Lancer dropped into my recommended

[@thatturtlegm]

@@starofaetherius haha, that's awesome, man I'm so hype for AC

[@jonp8015]

I was playing Battletech before I played D&D, and Lancer feels inspired by both without actually copying anything from either. Systemically, it looks like a great middle ground between the two.

[@thatturtlegm]

Whats battletech, I've heard a little about it

[@jonp8015]

@@thatturtlegm It's the tabletop game that the Mechwarrior series of videogames was based on. It's been around since the 80s and the basic rules have been pretty much unchanged, but with new books adding rules for niche situations. Think about that. Nearly 40 years of new books... Adding rules... Also, nearly 40 real-world years of lore development. The setting is vast.

[@bobhill-ol7wp]

Well it unfortunately still copied the clunkiness of 5e roll to hit AC grid based combat, where nothing interesting happening can be a usual outcome

[@josephpotter5766]

@@bobhill-ol7wp People make this mistake a lot when talking about Lancer, because people consider it a standard table top RPG, which it's really not. It's a Tactical RPG, where the combat system is effectively an entirely seperate wargame module that bolts onto the out-of-combat stuff. In that it's much closer to D&D 4e than 5e, and I say that with deep fondness for 4e.

[@desiredriving]

first time GMing and second time playing Lancer overall, and almost none of my players have played a TTRPG before, this video is a godsend and I really appreciate this upload.

[@thatturtlegm]

Thanks so much! I love lancer so much, and wanted to bring that energy to youtube, glad this helped you out!

[@andrewhardy5632]

Learned about Lancer randomly from watching AC content. This breakdown was fantastic. Thank you!

[@thatturtlegm]

Love the support! (Yah AC has been so good, I can't wait to make videos about it)

[@novocaine2279]

I've been wanting to run a gundam campaign out of this

[@duskdeadman4333]

Hell yeah

[@thatturtlegm]

If you find a book or ruleset for it send me that link!

[@NayrAnur]

Universal Century?

[@thatturtlegm]

@@NayrAnur Link?

[@NayrAnur]

@@thatturtlegm It's actually the official name of the main timeline of the Gundam universe. Sorry to disappoint.

[@TheTheThem]

My forever gm asked for someone to host a lancer game for him instead, and now I am going lancer, and ttrpgs, for the first time ever.

[@thatturtlegm]

YOOOO, good luck, I have some other videos to help set up your game, but also, just ask any questions here and Ill help if i can.

[@itsemmit]

Neat video! I've never heard anyone describe Lancer as a roleplay heavy game before since the pilot rules are kind of really anemic compared to the mech combat, but certainly an interesting perspective!

[@thatturtlegm]

Thanks! I've seen a bunch of ways to play both lancer, and other games using the blades in the dark base system, many of which that allow the players to craft a more detailed narrative grab my attention! More than happy to recommend the friends at the table podcast on Spotify!

[@kenansabic2901]

IMO the way that triggers work and how there isn't actually that many rules for pilots leaving it up for interpretation makes the game easier on the roleplaying side as the players aren't bombarded with too many mechanics and can stretch their legs more. I hadn't run this system yet but as I am reading the rules I keep thinking how so many of the things my players struggled with in 5e are just streamlined in this system.

[@gregorycarmichael6907]

Very helpful video, but oh my god you just reminded me about Hawken. I was never any good but that game was always so cool to me and definitely is part of why I'm planning a Lancer campaign 8 years later

[@thatturtlegm]

(thanks for the comment!) And I wish you good fortune on your new lancer game! (Also praise the sun! love the pic of Solaire)

[@davidhanham8268]

I once had a project to adapt Cogent Roleplay made by @TableTopTime to be able to use mech pilots and mech with the various Titan fall 2 frames. ended up scrapping the project but I wrote a mini campaign to go with it. NOW WITH THIS muahaha ... I may be able to run my module with a system dedicated to mech combat!

[@thatturtlegm]

THAT SOUNDS SO COOL!!!! (I once helped my friend build a fallout new Vegas 5e adaptation before WOTC released theirs it was rough around the edges but super fun)

[@AAhmou]

3:14 More like an entire galactic arm.

[@thatturtlegm]

No joke, the scale can be just mind boggiling....

[@galaxic2332]

​@@thatturtlegmThat's the beauty of space rpgs! You can go anywhere!

[@josephpotter5766]

This confused me as well. The vid is talking about Lancer coverin multiple galaxies and having planet sized mechs, when actually it takes place in one part of one arm of one galaxy, and the largest playable mecha in the game is only about 25 meters, and the largest mech known in the system is about twice that tall at absolute most. I think the video author is thinking of beam saber a lot when talking about Lancer, which is actually mostly very grounded 'real robots' sci-fi (albeit with a strong anime aesthetic, and the nessessary magic of paracausality to make the more audacious stuff work)

[@Pixel-ff1kn]

wonderful video! fell in love with this system as soon as i saw it while looking for systems to run! Ive already run a few sessions but your video def still helped!

[@thatturtlegm]

thank you!

[@galaxic2332]

I personally believe this game is better than and deserves more players than DND 5e. Recently found this game thanks to a friend and we are LOVING lancer. It's so much fun. There's so much freedom in what you can do, speccing into any mech to mix and match parts and build whatever you want! So many options and it's always cool!

[@thatturtlegm]

Yes! Thank you!

[@thatturtlegm]

You should check out my Mech tech videos on the manticore and the swallowtail both are informative and meant for new players!

[@bred269]

I’ve recently found Lancer, and I’ve Wanted to play it so much Thanks for giving advice and tips on what to do

[@missrae1869]

Of course you found out about lancer, you deltarune homosapien.

[@dennisstark9764]

Im reading the Corebook at the Moment and Im hyped! I realy want to make this a thing in my local Club, if it is as good as it seems. In my head though it was like a Western with Mechs until this point😂 watching this, I realized I can do a lot more, if I want. But maybe still start small with the SciFi Western Idea for the start😅

[@thatturtlegm]

A sci-fi western with mecha.... that sounds so fun actually!

[@AAhmou]

It can be western, ruins exploration, mystery story, war story (even though the setting limits the war aspect), sports...

[@humannerd26]

Why is the thumbnail Beamsaber when you're talking about lancer??

[@bryanadam4578]

Dude, fucking great video. I have been trying to get information on the game, and no one seems to want to talk about it.

[@thatturtlegm]

thanks! With armored core 6 out im going to be making more Mecha based content soon

[@bryanadam4578]

@@thatturtlegm What other plugins, or modules, or things do you recommend to people starting this?

[@thatturtlegm]

@@bryanadam4578 Beam saber has been up my recommendation list, listen to the podcast listed here for great TTRPG recommendations, as they play SO MANY GOOD ONES, War in the year 3000 has been referenced to me too. Wish I had more specifics for you, and hope this helps scratch the itch you have!

[@santiagofantoni2643]

Amazing video my friend!

[@thatturtlegm]

Thanks so much!

[@aaron8977]

I bought the books and they’ll be here this weekend. I already know my friends are gonna just walk around in their mechs to intimidate everyone like some giant steel automatons 🤣

[@thatturtlegm]

Thats pretty awesome, here is to many good games to come

[@limbothebiggay1709]

Thank you for this! I'll use it as reference to be a GM!(I haven't gm'd before so this is great!)

[@thatturtlegm]

Thanks so much! Im making an edit for a manticore mech super soon!

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 im doing too many games at once atm, but when i have time. Oh. Oh i am totally working on a Lancer game set up.

[@thatturtlegm]

Haha, I feel that! I have other videos covering lancer basics if you need the help, otherwise your best friend is the COMP/CON webscite!

[@TheFatalcrest]

@@thatturtlegm Thanks for the tips!

[@thatturtlegm]

anytime! @@TheFatalcrest

[@ethanemerson4862]

( 4:09) “what about aliens?” Me, who’s a Robo-Tech fan: guess who’s bringing in the copyright-neutral Zentraedi!? If you don’t know who they are, I’ll be happy to explain.

[@Chickensea10]

Good luck with your channel

[@thatturtlegm]

Thanks! I am actually super close to having 500 subs!

[@Chickensea10]

@@thatturtlegm no problem! Go go go! You can do it!

[@blazehydra]

Tbh im looking to try lancer

[@thatturtlegm]

I have a server with other lancer players, I'm sure you can find a group with them, or with their connections if you are interested

[@blazehydra]

@@thatturtlegm yes please I just started digging in and after some research have mechs I want to try eventually

[@thatturtlegm]

@@blazehydra You can add me at: TURTLEGM on discord

[@blazehydra]

​@@thatturtlegm okidoke,sent a friend request

[@GiggaGMikeE]

I wish i could either find a ttrpg group or make a solo Lancer campaign

[@Qbertqueso]

Im going to rip off Ironblooded Orphans so hard!

[@thatturtlegm]

XD that sounds awesome, if you do make a sick mech loadout let me know!

[@an8strengthkobold360]

Same...

[@Bashaka104]

the everest doesnt have an official desing cause all everest are different

[@Khaleb_0]

Probably been said to death but your mic is really low, great video but had to blast the speakers to hear it :)

[@thatturtlegm]

(This was before I had my new mic, your right it's been stated, but I completely understand you, it's before I knew anything on sound editing more than, wow cut that out, wow add that in hahaha good memories XD) Awesome that you enjoyed the video!

[@grindcoreninja6527]

If you want to get into DMing and you're concerned about copying things, don't, I should be called 40K because I be stealing everything all the time for all types of TTRPGS.

[@thatturtlegm]

A book I've been reading has this section about how the author and his friend (both DM's) use a note for movie cliches they love to use in game and players never make the connection LOL

[@RoughGalaxyYT]

welp you didn't link any of the people you talked about "like friends at the table" so off I go to find them.

[@thatturtlegm]

open.spotify.com/show/69apHMMJix0kVb7BYpdsZa?si=0b3a3c42f05e4ca6

[@justabreadguy7688]

I like the enthusiasm and perspective, but 80% of this video was just: “you can roleplay in the roleplay game” “you can make stuff up as a GM” “You should learn the system if you want to GM” Like you clearly care and are trying to be informative, but you kill the attention span of the viewer with useless word vomit at the beginning.

[@thatturtlegm]

Makes plenty of sense! (comments like this one are super helpful, I appreciate you not being a dick about it either some folks don't do that ha-ha) Alot of people underestimate the potential of a game like lancer with how "open" it really is at its core. Plenty of people come by with new ideas, so it was my intention to foster their own creativity on the game and let them come to their own conclusions on how to run it best. (but I can agree on a look back of the script it is a bit much at times!) Some of my other videos focus a lot more on the details of the game, if that's more to your fancy!

[@rzu1474]

Ive went to compcon and thing's youve shown aren't there. I tried making an npc, i can't. I tried looking for a mech i saw somewhere else and its not there. And then the site showed me a list that totalled 200$. Hurray

[@thatturtlegm]

Thats very strange to me, want to add me on discord and ill try to help you?

[@thatturtlegm]

Oh, I also can't promise that I can fix it, BUT, I'm sure I can point you in the right direction if nothing else!

[@rzu1474]

@@thatturtlegm Sure? What's your tag?

[@terryguldimann6062]

Both of these issues are related to LCPs (Lancer Content Packs). Basically add on modules that have data for new frames / manufacturers / weapons / skills / talents / etc. If you are trying to make NPCs you need to the "Lancer Core NPCs". You get this when you buy the book (digital or physical). you can see the full list of LCPs that he has installed at 7:18

[@rzu1474]

@@terryguldimann6062 Ok, I'm broke, so I guess no lancer for me

[@jakspica]

WHY ARE YOU SO QUIET?!

[@thatturtlegm]

because I am a fool, and at the time of the video I barely knew how to do anything related to sound

[@john-lenin]

May have run not may have ran