Severance Just Got Absolutely Insane! | Severance Season 2 Episode 4 Review / Breakdown

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Burgunbeerd

Burgunbeerd

Күн бұрын

Severance season 2 episode 4 "Woe's Hollow" absolutely brings the BOOM. We review and breakdown Severance S2E4 and whats this???? THERE'S A GIRL IN OUR VIDEO?
There's so much to go over in this seemingly out of the blue and insane episode.
Steven proves he can talk to women and even marry one by bringing his wife Sarah (and huge Severance fan) onto the show.
Severance is the BEST SHOW ON APPLE TV PLUS and probably the best show on streaming.
Watch them discuss and froth the show together in a weird marriage podcast thingo that now has the 3rd wheel Dan!
Sarah is also a streamer over on Twitch ‪@SoSezJarvis‬ if you don't get enough of her here.
"What show should i watch?" we see you ask. Its this show. You should watch us afterwards though.
#severance #appletv #streamingnow

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@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd Күн бұрын
WHAT ARE THE TWINS / CLONES! I MUST KNOW! TELL ME YOUR THEORIES! Also if i masturbate in the woods will I turn into the woods or was that just a joke i'm asking for a friend....
@paradoxregina
@paradoxregina Күн бұрын
I am reminded of all the series who would not exist if not for Twin Peaks. Speaking of Twin Peaks, we are in the woods, there are doppelgangers everywhere, and Irving, the investigator, getting key insights from a dream. I am not surpriced, Irvings face is on a coffee cup in the new intro, and I clocked "aha, waking up the investigators they are referencing Coffee from Twin Peaks.". Coffee represents enlightenment and also finding the truth. Not relevant for Severance, but a nice nod from the creators.
@PatsyMayonnaise
@PatsyMayonnaise Күн бұрын
Other actors played them & Mark's shadow twin is the same actor as the guy in the 1st episode in the hallway. They looked copy/pasted into the forest. That, along with ORTBO having the same letters as robot, makes me think they are in a simulation.
@paradoxregina
@paradoxregina Күн бұрын
@@PatsyMayonnaise True, but there is more to tell us it is a simulation. So in the beginning there is white almost emptiness, there is no TV, then there is a TV standing there and reminding us of the TV in the white simulation in The Matrix explaining to us what a simulation is. This is not the first nod to The Matrix, Lumon is blue pill, outie/truth/rebellion is red pill.
@planet_dawsey595
@planet_dawsey595 Күн бұрын
In season 2 episode one, the girl replacement mentions that her severance building has animatronics, so I think that’s what we are seeing.
@menelikiii5004
@menelikiii5004 Күн бұрын
The lady with freckles from episode 1 talks about how her branch had animatronic kier sculptures/robots?, so I think these are also animatronics especially because of their weird stilted movements
@LaurinGarcia
@LaurinGarcia Күн бұрын
When Irv came back in the first episode of this second season, Irv ran into the bathroom and cried. How could no one see that something obviously happened. He was yelling and banging on the elevator doors and then refused to talk about it. Irv was obviously upset even though he didn't elaborate about it to his team.
@xixXxxXxix
@xixXxxXxix 15 сағат бұрын
Ive just commented something similar before seeing yours. I'm screaming at my TV at them - its like they havent watched the show or took notice of all the wrong things from what they have went on about so far lol
@LaurinGarcia
@LaurinGarcia Күн бұрын
The more I wonder why Helena Eagan didn't properly plan her story through when she invaded the innie world, the more something dawns on me. Helena Eagan might not be used to people questioning her at all. She might be used to people taking her words to be fact being that she is part of such a powerful family. Even if people don't believe a word you say, it doesn't mean that in order to stay in good graces with you, they too won't lie by saying they believe. Outie Helena Eagan might be too used to thinking that people accept her words at face value. Her weakness is that she is far too full of herself and thinks she is mentally superior to an innie, when in truth, she is far from it.
@rebekka6
@rebekka6 20 сағат бұрын
Of all the Helena/Helly theories, yours rings the most true to me.
@tjlambaes
@tjlambaes 14 сағат бұрын
She does see herself superior. She told her innee that she wasn’t a person and that’s why Helly R hung her.
@garyseven777
@garyseven777 12 сағат бұрын
This- when she was leading the innies into the “Scissor Cave” I could hear Irving thinking, “Why is Helly leading? Shouldn’t she let Mark lead?”
@LeonardLuen
@LeonardLuen Күн бұрын
for mark knowing irving had a tough time, Mark could have just picked up one how Irving left the elevator in the first episode, he was pounding on it, and they could hear it. clearly something was wrong, and then he just walkd by them. Boith mark and dylan were there when he left the elevator, thats when Dylon asked something like ""whats wrong, were you poor out there?" i don't think it is odd at all for Mark to think Irving had a rough time on the outside.
@NewMessage
@NewMessage Күн бұрын
Petey's map had a 'team building' area... they're indoors.
@LaurinGarcia
@LaurinGarcia Күн бұрын
💯👍
@rika7625
@rika7625 Күн бұрын
Facts ❤
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd Күн бұрын
Not against the idea of it being indoors but it's definitely at a very drastic scale for something they barely use (vs the Kier house that's often and a reward) If it's on the severed floor does this require them to unsever so they can walk out onto the lake or into the forest to switch as we see Irving do twice in this? Because he isn't being knocked out we can see he is conscious. And normal outies can't be on the severed floor. In s1e3 Felicia says she is going to do the egg drop challenge in the Team Building Space. Do they drop the egg from the world's tallest waterfall? I feel she might have mentioned the hundred acre underground floor, or is this a HoloDeck scenario? The water has to be real because Helena was definitely drowning. Why do the goats have a very indoor looking grass room if this feat of engineering is available? To me (Dan) it does feel like Occam's Razor where it's a much simpler process in all aspects if Lumen just owns a national park up state that they dropped the Innies. Could be indoors though, nothing's for certain
@LaurinGarcia
@LaurinGarcia 23 сағат бұрын
@burgunbeerd In season 1, when Dylan was in the security room and was trying to activate the Overtime contingency, he saw other program names. Beehive, Branch Transfer, Clean Slate, Elephant, Freeze Frame, Glasgow. I think Freeze Frame is one where the innies' brains are temporarily stopped and paused.
@hughdavies5070
@hughdavies5070 12 сағат бұрын
why would Helena need her chip blocked if it was on the outside?
@paradoxregina
@paradoxregina Күн бұрын
I think they went "ah you thought the goats were weird? Hold my beer." And now we have Shadow Mark, Shadow Helly, Shadow Dylan and Shadow Irving. Played by actual other actors, not CGI, just to really rub it in. Goats? Who cares, what are those shadows? Why do they move like balloons??
@prodroswell1907
@prodroswell1907 11 сағат бұрын
Regahbi said to mark that she has gotten better at reintegration meaning she possibly could have done Irving between petey and mark. We know irv is already suspicious of lumon and definitely would do it
@GangstarComputerGod
@GangstarComputerGod Күн бұрын
I swear to god if they use the tired ass trope of “it’s all a dream / simulation / coma” I’m going to scream.
@IloveGorgeousGeorge
@IloveGorgeousGeorge 17 сағат бұрын
They won't, Ben Stiller and Patricia Arquette joked about that in an interview and how its a cop-out. Dan Erickson already had the full overarching story written when it got picked up by Apple.
@heavysetmedia1904
@heavysetmedia1904 Күн бұрын
so where did the crampons on Irving feet come from? they were not there in the opening shots. then where did the TV come from? and how was it powered? There were no wires. so how was it playing. This show, this episode went cosmic horror on us and I love it!!!!!
@SoSezJarvis
@SoSezJarvis Күн бұрын
As per usual, they have us questioning reality.
@chewiewins
@chewiewins Күн бұрын
Indeed why all a simulation. TV has no power and magically pops there. Outies won’t be like brought to middle of ice lake. They entered elevator as usual
@fgoindarkg
@fgoindarkg Күн бұрын
These kids are midwits with too much free time. Whoever they work for is paying them too much.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 22 сағат бұрын
The actors reported that they had to wear crampons for real!
@laurenwicker3490
@laurenwicker3490 Күн бұрын
Obsessed with y’all, loving these breakdowns. So much better than restating the episode and adding one or two nuggets of thought
@SoSezJarvis
@SoSezJarvis 23 сағат бұрын
🤭
@SoSezJarvis
@SoSezJarvis 23 сағат бұрын
😘
@s07561277
@s07561277 Күн бұрын
I thought the clone/twins were just the animatronics they mentioned are in some of the perpetuity wings in episode 1. I've seen some other people mention it too but I think that's the simplest explanation.
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 23 сағат бұрын
Only question on that front is how are they moving place and appearing at the top of a waterfall? The characters don't seem to get close to them even though they would need to walk past them to follow their directions
@captv334
@captv334 8 сағат бұрын
​@@burgunbeerdAAAAAHHH They are proyections/ holograms of a 3d rendition of the group picture, that's why they look low poly and pixelated
@captv334
@captv334 8 сағат бұрын
​@@burgunbeerdalso they are probably on lumen property and they might have machines hidden in strategic places to proyect them
@Nevyn515
@Nevyn515 22 сағат бұрын
My theory is that they can use the chips as Dr Who style perception filters, and they can adjust what they see and not see, the office might be the equivalent of a Zoom background, and outside might be something they are being convinced they are seeing but it was a bit thrown together, but they’re still in the office with the AC cranked on full, which is why it’s frozen tundra but none of them have breath steam even though they probably had them in real life as they filmed it outside. If you digitally remove breath steam in post-production it’s probably for a reason.
@SoSezJarvis
@SoSezJarvis 21 сағат бұрын
👏👏 I like this theory. Probably the cleanest logic for me if having to explain the location.
@brendielahooha
@brendielahooha 9 сағат бұрын
There was breath steam though. I checked on my second whatch
@KingHercules21
@KingHercules21 11 сағат бұрын
Irving the Grey's last words should have been , "hang in there, you fools!"
@chewiewins
@chewiewins Күн бұрын
Surely Deiter just represents the ‘outie’ bad person Kier eliminated on himself, becoming good ‘innie’ Glasgow coma scale used medically for level of consciousness
@garyseven777
@garyseven777 12 сағат бұрын
And Kier murdered him and left him to rot. Even if metaphorically. IMO
@annikam1272
@annikam1272 23 сағат бұрын
I think dieter either died from hypothermia/frostbite/some other temp related illness OR kier killed him and just left him in the woods edit - also seals don’t live in lakes, and in the aftershows that I watched with the cast+crew, they said the seal was “intentional” so I think lumon planted it and supposedly Irving has been with the company for over five years but has only been in MDR for three years so he totally could’ve been in O&D before being transferred to MDR
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 21 сағат бұрын
I DISLIKE THEIR RELATIONSHIP TOO, SARAH!!! Every frickin' woman in a show doesn't have to be in a relationship with the lead man in the show, dammit! It's like that damn Ghosts US. Ghosts UK was great. Ghosts US, all the ghosts had to hook up with each other. WHY!?!?!! They're fuckin' ghosts!!!
@garyseven777
@garyseven777 12 сағат бұрын
Because they want to get couples to watch the show, maybe and the humor or pathos generated by sexual tension being generated or released or something like that…
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 11 сағат бұрын
@@garyseven777 I hear you. But my husband and I watch both Ghosts and Severance together. We don't need there to be a couple for us to enjoy a show.
@SusanbVT555
@SusanbVT555 10 сағат бұрын
I think Irving worked in O&D with Burt when he first joined the severed team. They fell in love and Lumon reset them and moved Irv to MDR to keep them apart. The stories about violent coups between departments were intended to avoid future incidents. In the last episode Felicia told Irv O&D used to bring items to the export hallway aka elevator to the testing floor. Irv may have made those deliveries while with O&D and that’s how he saw the hallway and elevator.
@ddot1991
@ddot1991 7 сағат бұрын
We don’t hear the elevator ding at the end of the episode.
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 41 минут бұрын
you are correct, theres no ding at the end. Looking at previous episodes the ding usually happens either as they open their eyes or just before. So we don't really know if he was unsevered or just paused since we don't see his eyes open
@lonerrebel1176
@lonerrebel1176 Күн бұрын
How is innie Mark going to explain to Helly that he couldn't tell the difference between her and Helena? How is Helly going to deal with all this? Is Helly gone forever? I'm crushed. Since we haven't seen much of Irv's outie life, I'm hoping they show him getting more fired up to burn this place to the ground.
@savvic8100
@savvic8100 21 сағат бұрын
Also there was a theory that Ricken is a secret Egan that you mentioned in a different episode I believe and this episode I was thinking if dieter is real maybe he is a descendant of dieter? Because the Rich kid going off into the woods to find themselves really feels like Ricken
@LaurinGarcia
@LaurinGarcia Күн бұрын
I no longer think it's a matrix environment. Or at least, not with this episode. And when another KZbinr pointed out a section of Petey's map called Team Building Room, it reaffirmed that theory for me. Remember the second Mark innie in the first episode of this season mentioning that their Eagan museum had moving mannequins? It made me think of animatronics. So when the shadow versions of the 4 innies appeared, I wondered if they were animatronics because of the way they moved and stood. ORTBO also can be an anagram for Robot. Plus, there is the indoor plant room Burt showed Irv in season 1. And this season, Mark and Helly found the large indoor goat meadow. But it wasn't until yet another KZbinr mentioning about how Walt Disney had a brother that something finally dawned on me. The child like innies were placed in an indoor simulator constructed like a theme park ride. It looks massively vast. But in truth, the footprint is small. You are actually looking at a lot of forced perspective fx and are moving in a circle or spiral winding path downhill. You can't tell you are going in circles because rocks and trees are blocking your full view ahead. All just like the theme park rides. It's like the Truman Show or the battle arenas of the Hunger Games. It's all a stage set. It's all an optical illusion. It's just like a Disney World ride. They think they are on an endless journey, but in truth, they are just moving in circles.
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 23 сағат бұрын
(this is me copying and pasting my questions about it being inside in the TBR) Not against the idea of it being indoors but it's definitely at a very drastic scale for something they barely use (vs the Kier house that's often and a reward) If it's on the severed floor does this require them to unsever so they can walk out onto the lake or into the forest to switch as we see Irving do twice in this? Because he isn't being knocked out we can see he is conscious. And normal outies can't be on the severed floor. In s1e3 Felicia says she is going to do the egg drop challenge in the Team Building Space. Do they drop the egg from the world's tallest waterfall? I feel she might have mentioned the hundred acre underground floor, or is this a HoloDeck scenario? The water has to be real because Helena was definitely drowning. Why do the goats have a very indoor looking grass room if this feat of engineering is available? To me (Dan) it does feel like Occam's Razor where it's a much simpler process in all aspects if Lumen just owns a national park up state that they dropped the Innies. Could be indoors though, nothing's for certain
@brendielahooha
@brendielahooha 9 сағат бұрын
@@burgunbeerdThe funny thing is that the grass used to record the goat scene was actually outdoor grass soo…
@BrigidReese-v4b
@BrigidReese-v4b 12 сағат бұрын
Have not read all the comments but it might help to apply dissociative identity disorder and especially the more recent psychological ideas around parts theory and trauma - that accepts that our identities are multiple. I think it might be foundational to the show.
@tjlambaes
@tjlambaes 14 сағат бұрын
I feel like it should have never been a question on Helena. The way Helly R acts in the first season, wouldn’t she have used her knowledge as an Egan to make some kind of demands. It will be interesting to see if we see Helly R again and how she feels about being an Egan.
@mips19
@mips19 15 сағат бұрын
My main reason for questioning whether or not Irving is being reintegrated is because he seems to keep questioning the night gardener. What would an innie know about gardeners? They might know what they are and what they do, but Dylan is amazed by how high the sky is. He knew there wouldn’t be a ceiling but is still amazed. So for an innie, some of which think humans might have pouches. I just think it’s weird he would be so sure of himself, having never seen or known a gardener. Help me out!
@garyseven777
@garyseven777 12 сағат бұрын
Innies still retain basic knowledge and terminology, gardening is pretty generic knowledge so no violation of the Severing Procedure IMO.
@mips19
@mips19 10 сағат бұрын
@ I know, I just thought it strange how sure he is.
@garyseven777
@garyseven777 9 сағат бұрын
@@mips19 I Think Irv’s outie is a detective.
@Newhorizons4u
@Newhorizons4u 18 сағат бұрын
Omg the foot censorship! 😂
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 17 сағат бұрын
We don't give them dawgs away for free!
@rye3k
@rye3k Күн бұрын
superrrrr early and again pleaseeee put this on spotify 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@RayneArt
@RayneArt 18 сағат бұрын
Whoever does your thumbnails needs a raise
@ethangraff8036
@ethangraff8036 18 сағат бұрын
The twins are robots. They're never shown walking around or actually doing anything beyond just awkwardly lifing their arms up and down
@fgoindarkg
@fgoindarkg Күн бұрын
I'm sorry kids, but anyone who thinks any of this is real is just not paying attention. This ep. reveals that there is no limit to the power of the chips. Complete reality replacement. Nothing is real. This head trip was a test to see what Irving really knows about Helly. Now they know he is dangerous to their mission and has to go.
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry 19 сағат бұрын
Facts it was 100% a simulation! 😏🎯 Lumon would never actually allow them to leave the office & go outside... but definitely not on a 2 day hiking trip, where absolutely anything could go wrong, and the company could end up in massive trouble. No way. Plus, when you view a close up of the map that Petey had made of Lumon last season, there is a big area next to the Perpetuity Wing, called "Team Building", and... he drew a little stick figure, with wires coming out of his head. (Or lightning bolts? But I think it's wires) I also think it was a simulation, because somehow, somebody hacked (?) the system, and were able to give Irving very pointed, detailed information re: Helena. It's one thing to suspect or guess that it's not really Helly (he was already doing that anyway) but the computer showed him a jumble of numbers, and when you match them to the letters of the alphabet, they spell "Eagan", AND... you can just make out a face too, which seems to be Helena's. This "person" told him she's an Eagan! No way was it just some dream. Nah, they were in a simulation I'm betting on it. I mean, where'd the TV come from?! Or the computer Irving saw out in the middle of the woods?! What were they even plugged into?! Haha 😅 Milckcheck sort of glitches a little bit on the TV as well. Only thing I can't figure out are their "shadows" or doubles. You could argue they're just a part of the simulation, and that IS quite possible. However, we also saw Mark's "shadow" in the very 1st episode, sooo... IDK what to think about that. You got any ideas? lol
@garyseven777
@garyseven777 12 сағат бұрын
Watching Irving Sherlock on Helena was so satisfying…
@TheySchlendrian
@TheySchlendrian Күн бұрын
outie Irving knows alot more whats going on, he drinks coffee and stays up at night and constantly paints that black elevator to get messages through to his innie, he says it on the phone too. I think with this dream outie Irving has tried to bring a much bigger message through, or perhaps even tried to warn him.
@elizabethpearson5504
@elizabethpearson5504 15 сағат бұрын
We still have the melon party with Irv’s head to see- I wonder if they wipe him but also wipe him from the other innies. So curious how this all works out. And Cobelvig saying “there’ll be no honeymoon ending for you” indicates Gemma IS dead, her body is a shell they are refining to create the perfect employee.
@saylii7998
@saylii7998 Күн бұрын
Yooo wait how they got everyone on each place in the forest cs outies wont be like walk into into a forest today and we will turn u off wtf , is there another option in the severance shit that turn the person off completely?????
@selena___
@selena___ 15 сағат бұрын
enjoyed the discussion. subscribed!
@samsaek666
@samsaek666 23 сағат бұрын
Anti bottle bottle episode. It’s supposed to be a cheap one off but this one was probably THE most expensive episode they have ever shot
@KingHercules21
@KingHercules21 12 сағат бұрын
I had a different interpretation of parts of this episode. In my mind, I place this episode before Mark re-integrates / in the lead up to it happening. I think next episode is still going to be the "origin flashback" episode where Mark Scout / the audience sees Mark S.' first days at Lumon (Petey will be his superior, Cobel will be floor manager again, etc.).And then the episode after that (episode 6) will be where we finally see Mark Scout on the severed floor with Helly R. How in the name of Kier did Mark Scout and the other Outies wind up in the middle of the snowy mountain before Mark re-intergrated is where my natural placement of this episode gets flimsy. Anyway, super happy the Helena reveal happened now and not later... kudos to the actress and writers for making it so convincing. Even in this episode I still wasn't 100% sure. As for the CGI-duplicates, I didn't dwell on them long. They could be robots that Milkshake literally had Miss Huan moved around, or they could be hallucinations caused by the people still at the Lumon building programming into their chips. I am under the impression this entire plot of land is controlled by Lumon (heck that whole town town is) which is why Milkshake was able to set all of this up.
@captv334
@captv334 8 сағат бұрын
GUYS i srsly have not seen anyone say this and i thought it was obvious, its driving me insane, but the "clones" are 3d renditions of the picture they took together in season 1 ! Thats why they look lk low poly and blurred/pixelated. Also explain the creepy smile mark has and the pose helly is in. Thats why they look wierd. They are not clones, they are probably just proyections / holograms, i don't think they are physical at all
@nothingtosee226
@nothingtosee226 Күн бұрын
0:02 It’s literally the opposite of a bottle episode. Almost every other episode is in an office. This entire episode was in the wilderness.
@InsomniacUN
@InsomniacUN Күн бұрын
What's funny is that due to the premise, this FEELS more like a bottle episode than any other one in the series. The entire episode is spent in this forest. To be fair though, isn't the only bottle episode the first one from the second season? Since every other episode shows us both the innies and outties (so we don't ever spend an entire episode in the office).
@nothingtosee226
@nothingtosee226 23 сағат бұрын
@InsomniacUN I would define bottle-episode to be an episode that takes most of its place in a self contained area. Typically budget and creativity constraints are shown. Most times, not much happens that pushes the show forward in any meaningful way. This episode however looks very expensive. If they shot onsite it’d be expensive. If it was all CGI, it’d still be expensive. On top of that Irving’s innie “dies”, and everyone learns Hellie is an Eagan.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 22 сағат бұрын
@@nothingtosee226 They shot it all at Minnewaska State Park Preserve in New York. They worked with park rangers to build a scaffolding to get their equipment into the forest without disturbing the environment. BIG budget. The cast had to wear crampons to pack into the site. They were blessed with a real snowstorm as they were shooting. The snow that's falling in a later scene is really real!
@gregorybutera3166
@gregorybutera3166 8 сағат бұрын
I think this was all to give Helena a way to seduce Mark S.and try to get pregnant to give the company a an heir.
@spacecaptaincookie
@spacecaptaincookie Күн бұрын
Honestly I believe they are still in Lumon just DEEP underground and their “shadows” are animatronics! Plus I believe when we saw the flashes of Gemma and Helly it was what outie mark sees vs inner Mark dunnooooo
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 21 сағат бұрын
Totally agree.
@awall6910
@awall6910 21 сағат бұрын
They made a point of Gwendolyn talking about the animatronic Eagens in the hall of presidents at her branch, 5x. She even acted out how creepy they moved. So I thought these were animatronics too since no coats and they don’t walk on camera, also the feet of Dylan’s is buried and no footprints. I figured why would they have Gwendolyn say that unless this was an example of their more up to date animatronics 😂. Go back and watch her in episode one of this season. That’s my vote in the debate 😂.
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 21 сағат бұрын
That'd be the most acceptable explanation for them. Though it does make me question why the gang never went near them to investigate even though they would've needed to walk past them to follow their directions. The use of CGI to make them extra creepy while mirroring the intro style also makes me wonder why they made them look so CG instead of more like animatronics (probs uncanny creepiness but feels a little bit like lying to me. Also as far as the CGI goes having Shadow Dylan's feet buried does make it easier since contact shadows are some of the hardest things to make look real, especially on snow. -Dan
@awall6910
@awall6910 20 сағат бұрын
@ I said exactly the same thing! When they showed them see the Helly in the distance they then jumped to entering the cave, and I said “wait they must have walked past that Helly twin thing, why didn’t we get to see it up close? Did they look at oh up close??” 😂 I still think it was an animatronic, or that they want us to think it was for now but definitely noticed that 🤷🏻‍♀️. Or maybe they just wsnt us to think they are whatever was at 5x, which we will find out we’re not traditional animatronics after all 👀.
@PartyDownMan3000
@PartyDownMan3000 11 сағат бұрын
I think the next episode would be what happened between the last episode and this one. So I think we'll still get to see those early day Mark Flashbacks. Then maybe later down the line, innie Mark will get to see what it was like for Mark when he was married and how it felt to lose Gemma
@MarcusGB1996
@MarcusGB1996 16 сағат бұрын
The driver looks exactly like one of the statues from series one! I think he is a resurrection of one of the Eagan’s!
@brendielahooha
@brendielahooha 9 сағат бұрын
Which one?
@DaveRicher705
@DaveRicher705 8 сағат бұрын
In an interview with the cast the actress playing Helly referred to this episode has episode 5, wonder if they rearranged them
@NewMessage
@NewMessage Күн бұрын
'Dieter' is Kier's junk. He cut it off in a fit of shame, and went back, over and over.. to watch it rot, and feel 'woe' at the thought of the bride he thought he'd never take. He was young, so he saw her as small, like him. Also explains his obsession with 'his children'.. which he had to make by unconventional means.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 22 сағат бұрын
I'm hearing that! His writings are so anti-relationship. The "Bride" is the representative of Woe?! Why would a Bride be Woe unless you hate relationships. Also Myrtle and Ambrose we assume are his and Imogene's children, but they were born 25+ years after Kier and Imogene met, which would make her just about too old to have children. I don't think Imogene ever existed. They met in an ether factory? Ha! I think Imogene is a dream he had while high on the fumes! I think the "children of his blood" aren't of his blood at all. Maybe he figured out how to reproduce asexually... like a pineapple!
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 21 сағат бұрын
Ooh very good. His hair becoming moss would then be moss growing on it as it rotted instead of public hair. Was this your original thought or heard somewhere?
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 21 сағат бұрын
If I was to play the connections game then "Dieter" comes from "Dietrich" which means "ruler of man" in German and you could definitely say men are ruled by their penises.... Can also mean lockpick haha
@NewMessage
@NewMessage 21 сағат бұрын
@ I came up with it, but I mean.. if you remember how Kier words things, it's actually fairly obvious. I think he replaced it with a goats hoo-hah, and um.. well, Imogene may have been a goat. The goats are his 'children', and they're replacing people with these goat souls in chip form... like Cud chewing Rebek, for example. They suddenly have access to all the brain and body functions we have, but... don't really know what to do with it, and need to be lead by a Sheppard. Or Shepherdess, if you will. Devon, maybe?
@garyseven777
@garyseven777 12 сағат бұрын
I think Ricken wrote the 4th Appendix- Lumon was recruiting him.
@MaryCreswellRusso
@MaryCreswellRusso 12 сағат бұрын
😮 Lumon will just have you walk away in the middle of no where in freezing ice when they want to off a worker 😬
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 21 сағат бұрын
So hang on. We all know Kier has a weird thing with relationships. And the only thing we know about his relationship with Imogene is that "they met over the ether vats". That sounds to me like Kier fell asleep and dreamed her up. She isn't mentioned again. No one ever says she's the mother of Ambrose and Myrtle. I don't think anyone ever says Kier and Imogene get married. And if they met at the ether factory, that was before Kier was a doctor in the Civil War, so pre-1860. Ambrose and Myrtle were born in the 1880s, 21-26 years later. Even if Imogene was 15 when she married Kier, why would she have babies at the end of her reproductive years. No. There is some strange asexual reproduction thing going on (like pineapples!). I bet Kier cut off his "Dieter" in the woods and that's where "taming the Tempers" came about. I mean, think about it: why would a Bride characterize "Woe"? Also, if you tame the Tempers, "the world will be your appendage"?! Surely I'm not the only one hearing "appendage" as "cock"! He cut off his cock and replaced it with his control of his emotions. [EDIT] You're calling the Bride representing Woe "the child bride". And I just tweaked to THAT is Imogene! "Half the size of a natural woman." If she existed at all, she was a child labourer at an ether factory. Did Kier "marry" her (have sex with her) and she died and that's why the Bride is "Woe"? Or was the thought of marrying the Woe? OMFG!!!
@danielfrost473
@danielfrost473 Күн бұрын
Do it, Seth! :) Such a great episode and acting from John Turturro. I hope they have a backup of Irving. Did you notice Milkshake's contact lenses? There's a blueish ring around his iris. Does Tramell Tillman wear contact lenses or is it a scifi surveillance camera?
@jamesmswenko8292
@jamesmswenko8292 Күн бұрын
Nope. Nope. Nope. 'Woe's Hollow' is NOT a bottle episode, it doesn't pass even one definition of the term.
@BTOXlC21
@BTOXlC21 21 сағат бұрын
Stanford prison experiment + Scientology. The clones are actual clones but their identities need to be uploaded. Only possible post-mortem (thus why oMark sees Gemma’s body, and yet Ms Casey can exist between B3 and B2 but never appears at ground level /outside) Macrodata Refinement is subjects sorting their own brain wave patterns. COLD HARBOR completion is the final experiment that ensures complete upload into a new clone body.
@RobertoMartinCatoni
@RobertoMartinCatoni Күн бұрын
THE BEST SEVERANCE SERIES BREAKDOWN ON THE INTERNET 😤
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd Күн бұрын
That is incredibly kind! We just really like talking about this show
@fgoindarkg
@fgoindarkg Күн бұрын
Clueless.
@enochlamont877
@enochlamont877 Күн бұрын
How about this twist: Mark just helped make a baby Kier? Maybe Helena feels her dad will love her again if she provide material for a new Krieg?
@fgoindarkg
@fgoindarkg Күн бұрын
Mark is baby Kier.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 22 сағат бұрын
Ugh! Please no. If Helena wanted a baby, she could easily have them take innie Mark's semen and IVF her. Innies have no bodily autonomy.
@IloveGorgeousGeorge
@IloveGorgeousGeorge 17 сағат бұрын
Honestly I think some details, you're reading too much into. I think, given this trip is is an ORTBO (rearranged spells robot), I think the "twins" are just animatronic. We don't really see them doing anything more complicated than moving their arm. Also, I think Helena's reaction to the Dieter story was genuine, she's probably not indoctrinated to the religious cult stuff, so when she hears the religious propaganda about Dieter, she just genuinely cant contain herself at how stupid and silly it is. Also, worst Undercover Boss experience ever lol
@eveofthewood
@eveofthewood 16 сағат бұрын
This thumbnail is such a huge spoiler! It's been 24 hours, y'all! Have some shame!
@crimnvL
@crimnvL Күн бұрын
Its not clones its a robot replicas
@userio_4211
@userio_4211 Күн бұрын
How on earth was this a bottle episode. It's literally high budget and has several different scenaries
@shazaaaaaam
@shazaaaaaam 21 сағат бұрын
Why the fuck would they not address the shadow clones? Wtf are you talking about 😂
@dr2549
@dr2549 9 сағат бұрын
Yes, but why in underpants?
@chewiewins
@chewiewins Күн бұрын
It’s all a simulation and yes, even whole Severance floor. And probably Miss Wong too as she is really an adult ‘operating’ her,
@jajatwip
@jajatwip Күн бұрын
I never comment but I know im going to be right... It was integrated mark during the spicy scene till the weirdness and then it became innie mark and went with it
@bbldrizzzzzy
@bbldrizzzzzy 14 сағат бұрын
Mark knowing that he had a bad time is really not a jump at all considering that Irv literally tried to unalive himself when he came back.
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 14 сағат бұрын
You're right yeah, we were definitely thrown by Irving's accusations towards Dylan
@ghostmkc4045
@ghostmkc4045 Күн бұрын
Burguntism
@elleayejay3545
@elleayejay3545 Күн бұрын
I Hate the "scene" as well for Many reasons...
@SoSezJarvis
@SoSezJarvis Күн бұрын
@@elleayejay3545 do tell...
@AwesomeSauce81
@AwesomeSauce81 Күн бұрын
Ok, I'm gonna say it.....Irving is Deiter.............
@cristianodgers4548
@cristianodgers4548 4 сағат бұрын
why?
@franciet99
@franciet99 Күн бұрын
Virtual reality
@damientom
@damientom Күн бұрын
Aren't most of the episodes borderline bottle episodes?
@humbertochavez6572
@humbertochavez6572 23 сағат бұрын
what i'm most perplexed by is why someone would video such simple thoughts and publish them?
@anthony_barba
@anthony_barba Күн бұрын
🦈🏍️
@pgfarber6576
@pgfarber6576 Күн бұрын
So irving needs to be replaced in MDR now. what if Helena sends in a hotter or better suited match for Mark S. to torture he own innie with a lover's triangle?
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 21 сағат бұрын
If this becomes a soap opera, I will shit.
@blupeaces
@blupeaces Күн бұрын
Do yall even like each other lol ...wow
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd Күн бұрын
Enemies often hang out, laugh and chat with each other. Especially when they're married...
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 22 сағат бұрын
@@burgunbeerd Seriously! My man and I argue for fun on long car rides!
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 21 сағат бұрын
Three people having a respectful discussion means they don't like each other?!
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