SEVERANCE SEASON 2 EPISODE 3 - FULL BREAKDOWN, THEORIES AND CLUES

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[@jackdavinci]

With Milkshake I think he was slightly offended, baffled, and disappointed, but also felt like he had to appear grateful. What’s really delicious though is that he was so annoyed that his blue balloons were abandoned/rejected, and then he realized that the paintings were basically his blue balloons.

[@oldstuff3710]

Good point.

[@chocolatecat198]

@@jackdavinci yeah that occurred to me as well. The irony of his frustration that his "gift" was unappreciated, and then receiving a similar "gift". There are strings attached (no pun intended with the balloons lol) to all of these so-called gifts. Also Milchik is quite a fascinating character, I don't know if it's just because the actor playing him is so talented, but I think we are getting a more nuanced glimpse of his character this season.

[@stayglitteryqueen]

I think he hated that shit and was super appalled, and I totally support him in that, I can't wait to see a new side of him in regards to Lumen!!!

[@devilkid292]

OH SHIT MILKSHAKE FACE TURN WHEN?

[@elikerr785]

It's hard to tell with him, but I find it strange that he's never seen this "type of thing" in the company... not just the paintings, but it seems like he'd have been exposed to something with a similar theme, but he seems completely caught off guard, whether in a good way or a bad way.

[@krisztianunpronounceable]

I was so surprised that Mark was reintegrated this early in the show

[@julijaanderssonviolin]

Me too! I thought this would be the finale and then work as a cliffhanger for the next season

[@krisztianunpronounceable]

@@julijaanderssonviolin Exactly

[@leannerichardson3545]

How quickly he agreed when he came to terms with the fact Gemma is alive broke me 😭

[@mimicoolll0]

i was surprised but i am extremely excited about what’s next them.

[@krisztianunpronounceable]

@@leannerichardson3545 He definitely loves and misses her

[@HarshMelon]

Okay, theory time. I think that the entire Eagan family tree is currently residing inside Jame Eagan's noggin. Because severing has just been invented, that means all of them are sharing space and clamoring for dominance. So I think "The Board" is a single body which contains all the Eagans. Severance was invented as a way of separating out each of these individuals. Cold harbor is a test run to see if Gemma can be completely wiped clean (meaning that MDR is finding all the emotional baggage still left in her brain and removing it by sorting it into categories). Once she is totally hollowed out, she can be fitted with a chip containing the essence of an Eagan. Given that Helly is next in line, she is working against the clock to perfect the new process so she can avoid having the entire family line dumped into her head.

[@justinef]

Woah.. I never would have considered this, but it seems extremely interesting

[@tjampman]

I like your theory - It is kinda opposite of what I was thinking, but I like yours better because of the motive/motivation. My main question would be how they would be able to implant the older generations like Kier into the next generation without the brain chips (I think Jame Eagen stated who invented the first generation chip, but I don't remember it)

[@positivelight_]

@@tjampmanmaybe they preserved their brains? For like future mapping? Idk that’s a good question though 🤔

[@chocolatecat198]

​@tjampman maybe there were earlier, more simplistic versions of the chip before Jame? But that definitely is an important consideration for the theory that all generations are contained within one brain/person.

[@vickimickey872]

I have a similar theory, though I am convinced the Egan family consciousness (aka The Board) is within Natalie not Jame. I think her headset is just a red herring.

[@LeonardoBitzki]

The cartoon that Dylan's son is watching on tv is Danger Mouse, an episode (or several, an arch) where an spy is trying to steal information of a VIP's brain.

[@princessthyemis]

Ooh genius Easter egg!!!

[@ulexite-tv]

THANKS!

[@AC-hj9tv]

Nice bro

[@GarikDuvall]

Also looked like an Eagan doll on the floor... creepy.

[@jebjoya]

So, an old British TV show that I can't imagine made it to the states (I watched it as a kid and I'm coming up on 40), paired with Selvig listening to Stone Roses - an older (90s) band who didn't really make it in the states... I dunno, that felt a bit odd didn't it? I know Stiller dismissed the music, but the pair of them feel a bit of a weird detail to a British viewer...

[@greenytaddict]

Natalie knows how to make her smiles look creepy, like she is dying and screaming on the inside all at the same time.😅

[@princessthyemis]

Yeah!!!! Brilliant! I wonder if we'll find out more about her....and I bet her actress must have practiced that in front of the mirror a ton!!!

[@AC-hj9tv]

Still hot af

[@notdizzie_69]

Is natalie possibly severed herself,it seems to me that Ms.casy is probably a clone of marks wife and at one point in the show I think regali?(sorry for spelling) said there's people who nevereave basically trapped at lumin maybe ms.casey is being held at a lower level only to be activated when needed so possibly Natalie is trapped in her mind and physically so the creepy smile could be her outie trying to come out subconsciously

[@AC-hj9tv]

@@notdizzie_69 cast said no cloning

[@margaretpoteet9194]

She reminded me of Kellyanne Conway when she was being interviewed on the news in season 1.

[@ikimeht]

The board rendering Kier in blackface and gifting that to Milkshake was some old clueless out of touch white people shit. I think the emotion you were seeing from him was barely contained anger.

[@CthUwU.99]

Felt like the first time you see Jesus race swapped, but somehow more insidious.

[@greenytaddict]

He definitely agog at what he was looking at.

[@jw-hy5nq]

I think the whole show is leading to Kier, or maybe all the Kier's (who is also the board) is trying to resurrect in some fashion and take over a body. Milkshake has just been informed that he is going to be that host.

[@mcorby2145]

yep definitely. Milkshake seemed to hate it it but was forced to pretend like he graciously accepted it.

[@stayglitteryqueen]

I agree! That was a bunch of crap!! And Milkshake was disgusted, which I completely understand and makes us see a new, non-robot side of him, contrasting with Natalie, always there with that creepy, so great acting smile!!

[@Little_Tempest]

I love how you always have to say "Praise Kier" every time you say "Kier" ... I am agog at your reverence to the great Kier. (Praise Kier)

[@eeah1]

This series gives me super ‘Being John Malkovich’ vibes - love that film and love this show! And when they crawled through the goat tunnel it REALLY emphasized that!

[@tnijoo5109]

I had the exact same thought! Loved that.

[@pamjam2567]

The movie is so trippy

[@NicolePatriceCox]

My dear friends..Milchick and Natalie were both DEEPLY hurt and for Milchick even angered that the only way they could be part of the history would be to simply "paint their skin" on to the history. It essentially erases their unique experience as Black.

[@AC-hj9tv]

They both hot af

[@santi838]

I think the reason Cobel wears the severance chip around her neck is that it contains the “mind” of her mother (name featured on breathing tube) and cold harbor is important to her because she sees it as a way to revive her mother

[@margaretpoteet9194]

I keep thinking that her experiment with Mark and Gemma is her hope that if she can figure out how to get Mark & Gemma to recognize one another then Cobel can make her mother recognize her one day.

[@DarianLee-j8x]

I think the guy that Mrs Cobel saw next to Helena when she got really nervous was the same guy that Felicia was talking about when she said the export hall is now run by only one guy. Thats why she got so scared cause it implied she would be taken to the testing floor. I suspect this guy is going to be important cause of the way he was alluded to and introduced

[@princessthyemis]

OOHH GOOD IDEA!

[@conallj]

He could be the guy lingering behind Mark in the first episode?

[@tannerlawson8312]

Great notice, I think I’m with you on this

[@Ets638]

He looks exactly like one of the Egans exactly.

[@margaretpoteet9194]

@@Ets638 He looks like the statue of Phillip "Pipp"!

[@utente0182]

This show is fantastic, sadly where I'm from it's not popular (Italy). I'm always promoting it to everyone 😂 this breakdowns are gems as well 👏

[@geekademy]

That’s why we have this community! Around me not many people that like this show

[@franciet99]

People will catch up.

[@eeah1]

I rewatched the Milchick scene really closely and I’m certain he was upset (at least def not happy) with the images. His eyes, body language, all of it is so subtle (and amazing acting btw), but it’s clear that he finds the situation patronizing at best, racially offensive at worst. Not entirely clear re Natalie but in their last wordless exchange, her eyes don’t match her words. Brilliant scene.

[@jw-hy5nq]

I don't think so. way too obvious I am betting the board is taking over Natalie and the end goal of cold harbor is to allow them to move totally into a human body. Milchick was just told his fate would be to be host to the board (Kier)

[@eeah1]

@ Agree re the board in search of human body form (possibly), but I watched the actor who plays Milchick and Ben Stiller discuss the scene, and they did say that they wanted to address racial dynamics at Lumon. In my opinion, this scene was intended to show one way in which Milchick, up until now the ultimate company man, may not be completely in on the cult. It is loaded with old dead white men after all (I’ve also been watching snippets of Senate confirmation hearings this week so maybe I got old almost dead white men on the brain).

[@tnijoo5109]

@@eeah1 I took Milcheck’s response to be sort of shocked by how racially insensitive they could be, definitely a wtf horror type of moment and I’m pretty sure either Natalie or the board knew he was horrified because she was then prompted to tell him that she had gotten the same thing and was positively affected. I think In the discussion after the episode Ben Stiller maybe says Milcheck is looking at Natalie to see if she’s an ally or if she’s actually as messed up as the board. It didn’t ever seem like he might have liked the paintings. Seemed very clear that he didn’t. And then he hid them away afterwards and looked like he was extremely disturbed by them and the company got thinking they were okay. I liked that part because it’s the first time you see Milcheck question Lumen at all. Before that he seems like a yes man to everything, fully devoted to the company. I like your thoughts on it and glad you brought up the after ending discussion about it.

[@jennygennie90]

@@jw-hy5nqidk I think that plot line follows ‘Get Out’ too closely 🤷‍♀️ We shall see

[@SaiScribbles]

14:02 This was such a great bit of acting. She seems to have just as much dislike of this as Milchick, and is sort of trying to show him solidarity, but she's also desperate for him to show gratitude to satisfy the board.

[@steph_haworth]

After I saw the episode last night I was immediately looking forward to watching your breakdown! I, too, love discussing every little detail so your videos on this show are my favorite!

[@faithblinded]

What if Cobelvig's Mom was the first severed person? In that way the contradiction of stating her mother was both catholic and atheist could make sense. Her mom's innie and outie just had different views. I took it as a sign that Cobel was a manipulator that would say anything to accomplish her goals, but perhaps it was a nod in the very first episode that her mom was indeed the first severed person, or one of the first. Following the logic, it makes sense that Cobel would have ended up in a Kier orphanage after the prototype no doubt killed her mother(or perhaps she was an already terminal patient volunteer). Ok back to your vid. I paused it to comment. Been waiting all day for your drop. I truly appreciate your genuine enthusiasm. My reaction to this episode was the same. The first 3 eps of the season together feel like a long season premiere. I suspect each episode will contain its own arc now, leading up to another thrilling cliffhanger. I can't wait! Thanks again for the vids! Keep em long!

[@pamjam2567]

I think if this is true we will see her story , possibly he getting sent to the test floor

[@faithblinded]

@@pamjam2567 Oooh that could be rad! And it would allow a chance to show a younger version of Helena's crepy ole dad. Perhaps putting the moves on Cobelvig's mom...

[@princessthyemis]

OMG that's a really genius idea!!! I I never considered.I remember being kind of thrown off in the first episode.When she mentioned her mother was both a catholic and an aetheist!!!! that makes complete sense !!!!!

[@princessthyemis]

She was in an orphanage?!?! Ohhh shoot! That glimpse of the picture was kinda fast; I thought it was a boarding school! I bet you are right!

[@iliabee1663]

very insightful!

[@silliestsharks111]

The picture the mom brings is something that families can do at state fairs and festivals. You go into a booth and they have all these dress up costumes and an old west backdrop and they take a black and white photo. They're lots of fun and very popular at state fairs.

[@regularartist699]

dylan wife is the sweetest woman on the face of planet earth. Idk what they got planned for dylan but i hope shell be okay

[@ChristinaMuzzu]

The way Helly spoke was so passive and restrained, not like her at all but an act to see what Mark's up to. Helena says to Kobelvig "it didn't have to be like this" or something as if she is indicating she will be killed now. Like the rich and powerful in religions and governments often say, humility is a key to salvation... for the masses.

[@78deathface]

I think the moment between Milcheck and Natalie was deeper than it seems at first, it feels like they’re trapped and don’t have free will. They’re both people of colour in the middle of this very weird white religious context, I think they were silently acknowledging to each other how fucked up the paintings are for them while at the same time trying to suppress their emotions

[@kassistwisted]

Yeah. I mean, Tillman is such a great face actor (despite being primarily a stage actor where there's no opportunity to face act). He was clearly asking Natalie if she was alright with this. And notice she didn't say, "I was happy when they did it for me," but "The Board wants you to know that I was [can't remember the exact word she uses] when they did it for me." Her eyes are so dead, just like a real life Human Resources manager! She shows nothing. Milchick ask for her help with his eyes, and she just stays cold. It's chilling to watch. I'm shocked he didn't set the paintings on fire.

[@donaldmustermann7236]

Is there a single fcking topic on this planet where blacks don't manage to insert their disgunstingly racist victim mentally into?

[@chocolatecat198]

I got the sense from Gretchen's uniform that she might actually be a cop. The black and blue are often a color combo used. But someone else suggested that maybe she's a night security guard at Lumon. I could see paremedic as well, but the uniform didn't suggest nurse to me, because she's definitely not wearing scrubs. I think security gaurd for Lumon would be the most interesting for the storyline, though. It might explain how Dylan found the severed job. But she also seemed a bit confused by the security practices at Lumon, so maybe it doesn't really fit with what's happened so far.

[@scootchisme]

I thought the same thing about her being a cop or security guard. I went back and found a scene from S1 E1 where they show the security guard, (Judd, I think was his name?) but he has on grayish pants and a dark blue sweater with emblems on it, so I don’t think she’d be a guard at Lumon unless maybe the Severed floor security dresses differently? Whatever it is, since they very subtly showed her in uniform but didn’t really give any other information about her job, I’m sure it will be some important plot point in the future!

[@GarikDuvall]

Went back to S1E3 and hers doesn't match the cops (darker blue shirt). The EMTs appeared to have white shirts but the patch does appear to be the same shape as one on her shirt so I'm thinking she an EMT. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKKcYXpjeryNr80si=MjwzC2PSIbdEm0CQ&t=125

[@KellyWashburn]

Thanks!

[@geekademy]

Thank you!

[@timmyboymedia]

As soon as I finish an episode of Severance or Silo, I immediately look for your reviews! You’re awesome!

[@csullivan626]

When Seth… you know… milkshake… got the paintings I got mad “Get Out” vibes. Like both black people know how closely they are being watched and cannot say or even indicate their thinking of “WTAF” and instead stare and smile and pause and … like they both know black Kier with blue eyes is some messed up stuff but cannot do anything about it. First time I felt like Milkshake wasn’t trying to bring all the boys to the yard…first time he appeared to not be fully brainwashed with Kier ‘s philosophy/actions/etc.

[@SaiScribbles]

35:54 They use ALOT of archaic language in this series I wouldn't feel bad about not knowing wtf some of the words mean, many native English speakers won't either.

[@jw-hy5nq]

My bet is that most of the characters are either clones or severed that have removed the outies control. Their upbringing as innies with only Kier dogma educating them would show a bias towards the older speech forms.

[@Eighthplanetglass]

Came here to say this

[@kassistwisted]

For give me for posting so many comments, please. But there is just SO much to say! Yesterday I watch a channel talking about the Eagan family. And it occured to me that the years don't really work. Kier was born in 1841 and he founded Lumon in 1865. It's possible of course. But he supposedly worked in the ether factory where he met Imogene and then worked as a Civil War doctor. I have the same question you do: why would he work as a common labourer in a factory if he had doctor training? But that's not all. His children, Ambrose and Myrtle, were born in 1885 and 1886, respectively. So Kier was 44 & 45 when they were born. How old was Imogene? If she was a similiar age to Kier, she'd probably be too old to have children. Or she was a child when they married, which is possible of course. And why didn't they have them earlier? I think Kier's children are either not "children of his blood" (and that's why he has such a thing about "children of my industry") . Or they were not born of Imogene at all. Maybe Imogene isn't even real and Kier is reproducing asecxually somehow (like a pineapple!) I want to imagine that Imogene died in childbirth and he's trying to avoid childbirth for everyone. But Kier's writings just don't say much about her. If she died, I'd think that the writings would have made her into a glorified, even diefied figure. But they barely mention her. And they also prohibit office romance, even though Kier and Imogene met at work. OMG, Geekademy! You're making me think so hard!!!

[@GarikDuvall]

Kier is probably like Kim Jong Un and he doesn't have a Bhole and never poops either lol. (aka it's almost all BS)

[@kman7680]

When you’re channel is huge, I can say I was here at the beginning. I love this channel 😊

[@JohnLattier]

We are jubilant at his ascendance! 😁

[@LeonardoBitzki]

43:46 It's called "Chladni Plat", basically it's a process of using any kind of fine grain material, like sand or salt, to visually react in certain specific shapes, depending on how an oscillation or vibration is happening on the Chladni plate. It directly refers to the coils that she's using next to Mark's head and how is getting feedback on the oscilloscope.

[@dontlettheworldrot3058]

"Coil of Doom?" 🤔

[@cassieconley7503]

@@dontlettheworldrot3058cover saw the sign to “salt neck”

[@cassieconley7503]

Cobel*

[@keiththompson4721]

I think that Natalie is somehow linked to or part of the board and is interpreting their language. They can read her thoughts as well which is why she uses her face to speak.

[@scootchisme]

I hadn’t noticed it before, but in both “The Youthful Convalescence of Kier” and “The Grim Barbarity of Optics and Design/The Macrodata Refinement Calamity” paintings, there are characters that bare striking resemblance to Mark S. In “Convalescence”, it looks like him kneeling at the foot of the bed, praying, and in the “Macrodata/O&D” painting, the guy in the bottom right corner looks eerily like him as well. Adam Scott has a pretty distinct jawline, and both men seem to as well. I could see his importance as being someone whose physical body has been alive for hundreds of years, maybe as a vehicle for each Eagan to transport their consciousness to the next one or something like that, so he shows up in different eras and generations of the family.

[@topshelf1055]

Thinking on the phrase "the board", electronically it can refer to "motherboard", which is something in a computer that joins all components together. 17:45

[@TYGNYT]

Ben in the podcast saying "we don't know what era actually we are in" might be a massive clue that severence is NOT set in modern day.

[@KellyWashburn]

But we saw 2020 on Mark’s ID last season, right?

[@Within_Cells_Interlinked]

Except we saw Helena use an iphone in this episode. What’s more intriguing is wondering WHERE they are and why the tech, cars, etc. in town generally seem like they’re from an older era. That suggests a certain amount of control and influence the Kier family has had on the community for decades, and that they could be fairly isolated from the rest of society.

[@cheriann6461]

lol. The scene with Milcheck and the pictures is cringe and hilarious. I think he is repulsed and insulted. One clear indication is the way the Board made Natalie tell him that she received the same gift. It was as if to say, "see, this other Black person loves it; you should too." Then there's the way her eyes said, "I get it. Smile too, so that you don't cause trouble for us both." I've had a few of these moments in my professional life with white colleagues or supervisors. All one can do is try not to seem as patronized or annoyed as one feels.

[@tnijoo5109]

Yes!! That’s a really good Interpretation. I couldn’t really figure out Natalie’s response before. I couldn’t tell if she got how offensive it was. But it’s like, how could she not? But your interpretation brings it together.

[@tjampman]

IDK, yes in real life I get what you are saying, but in this show non-severed people really seem strange too, so I am not sure if we should ascribe real emotions to all our characters. Examples, would be Selvigs shrine to Kier, and Ricken and all his friends at the party. I really don't know other people do seem normal though, like Marks date I forgot her name.

[@kassistwisted]

I'm sorry this has happened to you in your professional life. It must suck to have to hide your feelings like that.

[@stayglitteryqueen]

YES

[@mizzy_chiara]

Helena mentiones "clean slate" to Cobel. It was one of the options in season 1 when MDR went to trigger the OTC. Could it be that Helena wanted to reset her, and that's why she ran away?

[@burntorangehorn]

Did she say "clean slate"? I thought she said "reset." Either way, it could be taken either way.

[@babykata-dt3ys]

I'm pretty sure she said reset. ​@@burntorangehorn

[@JoeRitze]

Rest/clean slate... Good eye.

[@CalmZeroChill]

This show blends satisfying answers with new mystery so well. I don't even theorycraft myself, I just watch commentary videos to feed the hunger in between new episodes. Really dig your energy and subscribed.

[@SaiScribbles]

30:11 Not just a night gardener, her thinking a gardener is something the normal folk would have lol.

[@LeonardLuen]

not only was it a night gardner, but it was a night gardner in the middle of winter. with snow covering the ground

[@JohnnyPappas]

Yes, a normal folk member would probably say landscaper or would mention a landscaper. But certainly not at that time of night or season!

[@MF-ty2zn1]

Looks like a novelty picture. Amusement parks and other tourist places have costumes people put on to look like they were in that time period. Civil War, 1920s gangsters, western, etc.

[@babykata-dt3ys]

Can confirm, there's a picture of me somewhere in one of those scenes. Weirdly I can't find any information on the history of those novelty shoots, but they are definitely a thing. Sometimes they're cutouts and sometimes they give you props to wear and hold.

[@galgrunfeld9954]

Mark my words. In Milchick's (management system thingy) represents the cases they're working on - the CMR-L and CMR-R and SRC-L and SRC-R - the L and R are the two hemispheres of the brain. The row with 3 parts represents Ms. Huang - she was shown to play with a device with 3 hoops of 3 colors, and we've had 3 colors in lights so far (Ben Stiller also said that the lights carry a meaning). And the row with 5 ones - that's Ms. Casey - we saw transitioning from Mark's innie's screen at MDR (IIRC in episode 1) Ms. Casey/Gemma's Cold Harbor tracking interface or whatever it was, and it had *5* different boxes. So it's the 4 tempers and 1 additional one, which I think is the result of what happens when the 4 tempers are tamed - the overall progress of giving her whatever personality and memories Lumon wants her to have. Mark (no pun intended) my words. (And watch me be not 100% accurate because the writing team is just too good, haha)

[@mcorby2145]

Alright, so every time we see Cobel her key colour is white. ⚪ Her hair, the snow, the car, salt neck. Literally every time we see her. A huge contrast from the consistent red 🔴blue, 🔵 green 🟢. At first I thought it symbolised that she was an outsider... But then I realised what happens when you mix red light, blue light and green light. (White!!!) Somehow, she is the combination!

[@kassistwisted]

Wow! That's good!

[@princessthyemis]

WHOAAAA I NEVER CONNECTED THE DOTS ON THAT!!!! SHE MUST BE THE KEY TO SOMETHING VITAL! HOLY CRAP!!!!!😮😮😮😮

[@mcorby2145]

ooooh and we know names are important! Harmony = a perfect balance 🤯🤯🤯 Just like a perfect balance of those 3 colours make up her white. She must be the one to link it all together somehow...

[@mcorby2145]

She was the first cold harbour type procedure! She is the perfectly balanced combination, just like the MDR buckets have to be perfectly equal. It helped save her mom. And thats why she knows it works and wants to prove it to everyone.

[@vraptork181]

commenting to support the channel your english is really good btw

[@URARITY]

24:47 - Dylan also has a triple light in his living room, that looks very similar to the one that Mr. Milkshake has in his office.

[@eeah1]

Thanks!

[@geekademy]

Thank you!!

[@n8thal718]

Host.... No one talks about purpose of that SaltNeck city....Was that the closest city is almost 300 miles away. The city and facility are isolated. Just like they live in North Korea or like a USSR Siberian town.

[@AC-hj9tv]

@@n8thal718 discount salt Lake city

[@LarsyD]

Isn't there a town called Ganz close by though where the college is?

[@fookieb0okie]

Your commentary is hilarious 😂 “maybe his name is jamEH because he likes goats so much”

[@chocolatecat198]

I definitely think Severance is going in more of a Black Mirror-esque consciousness transfered through technology direction rather than a cloning endgoal. Or maybe there is some unexpected twist with cloning, but its a theme that's already been done a lot so i suspect something different.

[@ulexite-tv]

Thank you -- this episode needed MORE deep diving. It is so good!

[@Unexpected.Ancient.Bear.]

Natalie is so underrated. Great acting in that scene with Milchick. Trying to communicate empathy with Milchick's suppressed disgust in silence but having the board in her ear, having a hissy fit that she wasn't gushing about being given that crap too. How did that look? Kier with a fantastic smile and eyeliner? Praise Keir. Notice how the Milkeir (the Milchick-Keir hybrid of the paintings) had blue eyes?

[@iamtheiceman]

You did not go deep enough into Cobel getting spooked by the Limo driver. Take another look. The Limo driver looks EXACTLY like the statue of Baird Eagan (CEO #4). Check out season 1's visit to the Perpetuity Wing. Cobel recognized him and figured that Lumon was resurrecting the dead, freaked out, and got the hell outta there !!!

[@Kraenkii]

I tried to look for that.. you mean the guy holding open helenas door? I cant see any reassemblence

[@iamtheiceman]

@Kraenkii Outside. Helena's limo driver on the steps of Lumon building.

[@Kraenkii]

@@iamtheiceman well yes i cant seem to see the similarity but will throw the pictures into ai to analyze

[@princessthyemis]

​@Kraenkii DON'T!!!! Keep Severance out of that filthy theft machine!!!! What the hell are you thinking?!? Just go rewatch the scene from s. 1 where they see all the different Founders statues!!! Stop using AI, for the love of all art! Because that is not analysis! !!!

[@Tau_Zyrillion]

I went back and checked (for anyone else wanting to check, the perpetuity wing tour was about 2/3rd through episode 3), and while I wouldn't say they look *exactly* alike I can certainly see a resemblance. It's interesting that Baird was mentioned by Felicia earlier this episode too. Then after looking at the scene in the car park again, trying to figure out the moment Cobel got spooked, it does indeed seem like it was when she saw the limo driver, with the camera shifting focus from Helena to him as he steps forward, as if to highlight what Cobel was looking at. If she's familiar with what the former CEOs look like, her reaction makes sense, but I don't know if I'm fully sold on the idea - it creates a whole bunch more questions. But either way that's a really sharp observation!

[@Film_Addictionn]

It's so funny when he says Praise Kier🎉

[@mcorby2145]

Ok I said this in a thread below but I'm putting it all together here for you to speculate ⬇ ⬇ Harmony means a perfect combination. Or something in a balance. And we know for sure, that Harmony's key colour is white: her hair, her car, the snow, 'salt neck'. The Lumon colours blue🔵 green 🟢 and red 🔴 all combine as a light source... TO MAKE WHITE!!! 🤯🤯🤯 She is a combination of everything. In perfect balance. She connects everything. ____ My theory is that she was the first cold harbour type operation, that managed to put her brain into perfectly equally combined buckets (a requirement of MDR) and now she is perfectly balanced (like Kier wanted) She saved her mum that way. She knows its possible and that's why she wants to prove it to everyone.

[@lindawakefield3524]

So Ms. Cobel was offered the Severance Advisory Committee (she got the "SAC")

[@MaryCreswellRusso]

I suspect when Seth saw the painting that he was thinking: Eagon fakes reality with the severed and now they're trying it on me.

[@Severancetheories]

My theory on cold harbor is Cobel has ulterior motives. But she wants to see if it works on mark and gemma first. Hence all the things she’s done to see if they remember each other like the candle. She’s doing this because she wants to bring her mom back like Lumon brought back Gemma. It wouldn’t surprise me if Cobel was even involved with Gemma’s accident. But yea Cobel wants to bring her mom back

[@BIMB0oinLIMB0o]

That’s so funny that you connected the goats with malice. When I was talking about the big guy from episode 2 that followed mark and Devon to Pip’s, I mentioned his bad haircut looked like he’d belong in the goat department. And my finance chimed in, “and goats frolic like his tattoo!”

[@ChristinaMuzzu]

Salt's Neck is the next town but so far away (238). Is Kier like Area 52, alienated to keep secret experiments secret?

[@princessthyemis]

Idk...Milchick said the Italian guy was from overseas so they must have severed businesses all over the world!

[@JustanotherDude0114]

Ok follow me here. What if this mysterious door that Bert has been painting, isn't a bad place or a torture chamber, but instead is actually the way out of the building. It's called the export hall or something. Maybe Bert is trying to pass along to his inni a message about how toeave the building with switching off

[@CalamityCannon]

47:34 I think "the protocol" was just meant to refer to the set of questions they ask to new innies (or maybe that plus the overall process of adjusting them to the severed floor). Maybe there's some other meaning, but that's what I assumed, and I still think it's what she meant

[@givesmeaura]

Thank you for your thorough analysis. I love your deep dives in each episode ❤

[@imani6547]

Best thorough reviews. Subscribed!

[@Kraenkii]

After warching silo ( which was still great) this feels like they throwing everthing i want to see at me hahah love the pace!!! He is definitly not happy about the painting 😂

[@BIMB0oinLIMB0o]

I loved that Dyan’s wife brought that old timey saloon family picture, our family would always do those on family trips to Gatlinburg or somewhere. Plus, soon as I saw the picture of him and her on the wall, I was like “the cowgirl lady! She was in a cowboy show!” (It was Godless, from like 7-8 years ago)

[@amg1love]

RE: the reintegration contraption - The sand rested on a speaker, it’s a classic phenomenon. Basically the sand moves in patterns in response to the sound wave output, vibrating surrounding molecules, moving in rhythm with the wave’s frequency. Anyway, it only makes sense if she rigged the speaker to sync up with her machine’s input and/or output of his brain waves. Idk how that would work…but that’s what I think is going on here.

[@presiyanad2207]

I love that the "Mr. Milkshake" nickname just stayed after the first episode. 😂

[@garyseven777]

Look at the scene with Kobel and Helena when H says, “Let’s reset” and then Helena’s head tweaks weird and Kobel stands still own she is considering this and then she freezes and her eyeballs shudder a bit. This seems like an outside effect of activating the Severance chip or something Outie equivalent. Check it out.

[@RayneSaltair]

They can't kiss, Mark's wife is alive, both his innie and outtie are loyal.

[@RayneArt]

The scene between Milkshake & Natalie was giving Get Out, esp. that one particular scene with the main character & the maid character

[@path5657]

I've been waiting for this video!! I'm SO excited for next weeks episode its crazy

[@Nova_the_starcatcher]

new to your channel! loved your vibe and video! Is it okay to ask where your accent is from? it sounds very comforting, I'm bad at placing where they're from. So excited about this show and where it is going! ahhh!

[@geekademy]

It’s a special kind of accent) It’s Russian but with a mix of someone who studied by heart all linkin park songs and watches movies and tv shows on English since 13 :)

[@megelizabeth8153]

I was thinking about you the whole time I was watching this episode haha. I even said to my partner "Oh Igor is going to LOVE this episode!" 😂

[@GeahkBurchill]

I think Milchick felt profoundly insulted by the obvious tokenism of the gifts. He’s saying he is grateful causes he has to keep his job but inside I imagine he’s seething. He placed the folio of paintings on the top shelf in the back of his filing closet for a reason. He was just treated like a simpleton by his employer.

[@HarshMelon]

Tokenism! Perfect description!

[@princessthyemis]

So perfectly said! As soon as I saw the pictures, I thought of those Black plastic santas that I've seen-- just kind of fake corporate inclusion that has no heart. I was wondering if this means he will "turn good" eventually, but the fact that the show actually showed us that he stored the paintings must mean that they're going to come and use later.Like a Chevok's Gun?? 😮

[@tyizzle80]

Great pacing I did t expect a Mark Reintegration until the finale. I thought they might useit as a cliff hanger and we got this in episode 3.

[@LovethisNation]

You have to make a video about the incredible Silo Extending Worlds bonus material! It’s up your alley.

[@brianaandrews8899]

10:25 nahhh I think the driver is Cobel’s late husband!! She was nervous but still confident following Hellena- the moment she was able to clearly see the driver she froze and her energy looked like she saw a ghost! She immediately ran for hell! The driver’s face looked confused but lingered like he recognized her but wasn’t sure why

[@princessthyemis]

Whoever the guy is, it was for sure a really weird scene because she is willing to do anything to get back into the company.But then as soon as she she sees that guy she runs for her life!!!!😮😮😮 that says a lot about her, regardless of who the person is, I think!😮😮

[@eriwantie]

I don't think it's her husband. Cobel is too dedicated to Lier to have romantic relationships and I think that's part of the cult - same with Helena. I think it was the clean up guy who dealt with "problems" for Lumon...

[@oliveandoiltherapy]

Hm I wonder if the driver is the Sienna file that Helly completed?? I know that doesn’t answer the question of who he is, but I agree, I think it’s Cobel’s husband or someone who she knows the backstory of. Also, Helena is the literal worst lol. Reminds me of Serena Joy from Handmaid’s Tale

[@jauntydamemusic]

@erawanti, unless Ms. Selvig was lying, she did have a husband: she said he’d designed a house for them (in the afterlife??) and she kept the blueprints in her purse.

[@Film_Addictionn]

Becoming your fan because you match our excitement and enthusiasm........

[@IshibashiPandora]

The look on Milkshake's face was awe at the ✨staggering racism✨of Lumen's giftXD

[@aaronboyd1388]

I looked up milkmans name 1. Hebrew Origin - In the Bible, Seth (שֵׁת, Šēt) was the third son of Adam and Eve, born after Abel’s death. His name is often interpreted as meaning "appointed" or "placed", as Eve saw him as a replacement for Abel (Genesis 4:25). 2. Egyptian Mythology - Seth (or Set) was an ancient Egyptian god associated with chaos, storms, war, and the desert. He was sometimes seen as a disruptive force but also had protective qualities.

[@sn2967]

The whole town is severed and they dont know it. Severed inside severed.

[@sleepyjane_RN]

You can hear the board speaking to Natalie in season one. Even though you can't tell what they are saying you can definitely tell they are saying words to Natalie. It's the episode where Cobel tells Natalie that Petey showed signs of reintegration.

[@2DayDavid]

21:43 the old timey cowboy saloon photo is commonly done with families at theme parks, tourist attractions, etc. It’s a Photo Booth package you pick.

[@galgrunfeld9954]

43:52 - I forgot what this device is called but basically it's a surface that acts like a speaker and amplifies vibrations. Based on those vibrations the sand moves. It's a way to visualize vibrations in 2D. And Lumen DEFINITELY perfected brain wave technology. They were able to put on existing brain waves additional information than what the brain creates naturally - or more accurately, the chip creates/makes the brain create additional neural activity that makes you basically have a 2nd brain. There's some neural activity you *must* have in order for your *body* to survive - like breathing, digesting food and so on - your brain sends signals to your organs to do these things. So reintegration syncs up these 2 distinct "brains" and combines them into one. That's why Mark now started to have access to his memories. Her questions acted as stimuli to make the cells/chip sync up. About the different brain frequencies - actual studies shows that the brain can shut down various parts of it - e.g when we sleep we're not (for most time and not fully) conscious, and it's been shown, for example, that if you don't get enough sleep empathy goes down, and there are dedicated neurons in the brain that have to do with empathy (mirror neurons - mirroring people's feelings and behavior).

[@greenytaddict]

Loved the ending, how they showed Mark reintegrating.

[@telmavpires]

Thanks for this deep dive! Have you seen the TV Insider Aftershow for Severance? The latest one for episode 3 is interesting, Patricia Arquette gives interesting hints

[@Alexander-uo3ct]

19:50 didnt grainger have a black card that mark took after grainger got merc'd for the uprising? Also, regarding milcheck's reaction with the board i think he was pinned between maintaining his professional artiface/sense of gratitude in front of the big wigs and this confusion of unraveling this natural feeling of disgust/alienation at this distasteful gesture by the company hes trying to act graciously toward. It feels like one of the first moments we see him in a severed position while natalie is silently reaching out to him through her eyes but behind the smile. Undoubtedly a killer scene

[@princessthyemis]

I wonder if he'll "turn good" and start siding with the Innies?? Eventually maybe???

[@coltbtd]

I can see a cameo appearance of Kier’s mind being finally being incorporated into a younger version of himself (Keanu Reeves) That would be incredible. The cross references between the actor, and the principles of matrix, as well as the other little snippets like the white rabbit (as a car guy when I saw the car for the first time I even said to myself “follow the white rabbit”) it’s all so fitting. Love this show. My only complaint is I can’t couch lock and watch the rest of this season (and season 3) back to back without stopping. Keep up the great videos on this show, as well as others I enjoy.

[@julijaanderssonviolin]

Such a great episode! Thanks for a great video!

[@Hobodeluxe007]

the links to the song white rabbit are all over the place because it's Lewis Carroll's Alice In Wonderland. The White Knight is mentioned. The Red Queen. The Door Mouse. A hooka-smoking grinning catepillar who isn't quite all there. Takes a fall, She gets big and small. Chases a rabbit who is in a hurry. Feed Your Head! Also why Harmony liked the Stone Roses In 1990, the Stone Roses' infamous paint attack on Revolver Records occurred, as a result of a conflict between the band and their label. The band was unhappy with how the label handled the release of their single "Sally Cinnamon" and the accompanying video without their permission. To express their frustration, they decided to take matters into their own hands by visiting the label's office and throwing paint at the staff and property, including Paul Birch, (the founder and owner of Revolver Record)'s wife. The incident caused significant damage and led to legal consequences for the band members. In a later TV interview, band member Gary Mounfield - known as Mani - spoke about the incident. The bass guitarist said the group asked to stop at FADS DIY store in Northenden, on the outskirts of Manchester, to get tins of paint and overalls so guitarist John Squire could 'do some art'. The band were subsequently arrested and appeared at Wolverhampton Magistrates' Court charged with causing £15-20,000 worth of criminal damage. But to counteract, following the incident, Mr Birch said he estimated that the media hype alone had bought the group in excess of a quarter of a million pounds in publicity. Mani said that Geezer Butler and Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath congratulated them for the incident.[79] While the incident may be seen as a rebellious act by some, it also highlights the tension that can arise between artists and record labels. The Stone Roses' desire for creative control and their unconventional approach to the music industry led to this infamous event.[80]

[@tac759]

the categories on the computer are possibly brain waves There are five types of brain waves: alpha, beta, delta, theta, and gamma. Each wave is characterized by a different frequency, or cycles per second (Hz).

[@PeterSoby]

I TOTALLY agree that it is Helena Eagan on the MDR floor and I think the moment when she cradles Irving's hand and tells him "we got you" is a hugely important moment because on one hand, we know that Irving's outie has some secret investigation into lumen, but I think it also tells us that his innie used to be doing the job of Milchick/Corbell or maybe even higher. And perhaps because of the atrocities he carried out, eventually he asked to be severed to forget the suffering he caused. And what I am looking forward to this season is a complete "flashback" episode when we see a younger Corbel and the younger Irving who is actually in charge of people and we will get so many more clues as to what is going on at lumen. But like you said Igor, we are so spoiled with the show because any one of these character's storylines would make for a brilliant TV show in end of itself!!

[@RuthFleming-t9h]

you asked about Milchick's reaction to the new pictures the board sent to him, if Milchick was moved positively or insulted. I think he was insulted, that's why he hid them away in the top of that closet or storage room. He put the pictures on the top shelf so that it would be unlikely that someone might accidentally stumble across them. Good observation about Kier in the ether factory! You're right about that. Back then, that kind of job would have been a labourer, if your family had money, you wouldn't choose to work in a job like that unless you wanted some kind of experience from it. I don't know of any rich family back then who would choose to work in a position like that. The History channel has a great mini series called The Men Who Built America. It mostly takes place in the industrial revolution & how some men made their fortunes while building empires that would mobilize the country. Some of the men were John Rockefeller, Thomas Edison, Andrew Carnegie, J P Morgan, Cornelius Vanderbilt & Henry Ford. It's an excellent series!

[@Qwerkycore]

@21:54 this type of photo is something they do in Yellowstone Wyoming. There is a photography place you can go into, dress up into "old west" type costumes and they have props as well as set designs you can take take your pictures in by a photographer.

[@aldon560]

That milchik and Natalie scene was profound. Black ppl and other minority groups here in the states know exactly what was being said without words.

[@Mungy32]

When Reghabi is using her machine on Mark you mentioned about the Sand - Its a chladni plate its to visualise resonance.

[@paularized1]

I can’t believe they reintegrated Mark in episode 3 of this season. I expected they wouldn’t do it until the penultimate episode or as the season finale cliffhanger. It’s such a good sign for things to come.

[@paigemcara]

13:15 THANK YOU!!! I don’t think I’ve heard anyone mention this before and I felt like I was going a little bit crazy

[@amybrown9539]

Oh, rewatching first episode of season 2 again ti watch for Helena clues. Never noticed the file name on her computer, Santa Mira. It seemed familiar, couldn't figure where i heard that name before. Ha, it's the town in Invasion of the body snatchers movie!

[@princessthyemis]

Oooo what?!?! Interesting....if those theories about her somehow end up being true....

[@KLondike5]

15:35 You mean to say "concluded" the call. Dylan's wife was wearing a tie so she looked like some sort of security employee I'll see you.

[@carolbinhoto6476]

I wait for your videos the same way I wait for Severance ❤

[@Muenstermonster1119]

"Call to action... You can see I am a KZbinr" Lol love your videos bro. keep it up

[@anglichaninblin]

🐇 White rabbit isn’t the only reference to Lewis Carroll and Alice. In fact, Miss Cobel and Helena mirror the characters from another Carroll’s book 📖: "Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There". Helena is the Red Queen - she represents dominance, power, control and competitiveness. In her own words it takes her "all the running you can do just to keep in the same place". In evolutionary biology 🧬 the Red Queen Hypothesis represents the idea that species must constantly adapt and evolve in order to survive while pitted against ever-evolving opposing species. Miss Cobel is the ‘White Queen’. She represents irrational in this world. She lives in a non-linear world and experiences events before they happen. She strongly believes that cause and effect can be reversed and the idea of Impossible is just a trick of mind. In her world there are no limits. Her famous quote: "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards". Does this explain why she gets confused when rubbish is collected ? Little Alice eventually becomes a Queen herself. She defeats the Red Queen and there remain only two Queens on the chess board again ♟️