Severance Season 2 Episode 3: This Changes EVERYTHING

[@Avikus]

I love how this show does not hold back and dumb it down. It reminds me of how when Lost was out (yes I am that old) and I would go online and go trough every scene frame by frame and try to make all the connection! Love it!!! Super fresh!

[@nikaknack]

Yes yes yes! (Can’t relate to Lost lol, I had only seen the first season) but I do love the fact that they let us think and not spell it out for us, something that is very rare nowadays

[@rini6]

I remember watching The Love Boat as a teen in the eighties. You’re not old.

[@snarkyandsane]

Just rewatched Lost while waiting for season 2 to come out. Petey’s map was definitely a nod to the Dharma station map on Lost.

[@muhmmadallii]

I'm young and Lost is my favorite show too

[@idsappples]

This and the silo have major showrunners who were either involved with lost or lost super fans

[@srabow]

Goat People = Snatched Homeless: Outie excelled at stargazing. “It meant a great deal to me”.

[@nikaknack]

Could be, I didn’t even think about that

[@idsappples]

This and generally people who wouldn’t be missed

[@JohnDunne001]

Oh snap! That's a great observation you made - what if Dylan's wife is given the opportunity to decide if she wants her hubbie to be permanently 'innied,' delivering non existence to outtie Dylan... that's wild, and dark!!

[@nikaknack]

Right! But that would be so cool, will she choose innie or outtie Dylan that’s the real questions but it all depends on the cookies

[@JohnDunne001]

@@nikaknack :D He better have remembered to bake them like he was asked! If she has to do it when she gets home, Innie D is getting a ticket out. I think if Lumon can frame it right, then Dylan's wife might be willing to go along and have Dylan replaced... I mean, he's happier in innie form but it's still DARK that this could happen!

[@nikaknack]

Definitely! I don’t know if you saw, but they posted a video on their Apple account of the city where everyone lives, and a lot had to do with Kier and Lumon, so it makes me think what if this was just them building cities for the innies, to possibly go out and live there. First start off as outies and then slowly integrate the innies into the real world. Also totally guessing here, but what if this is a simulation, all of it. Probably not, but would be interesting

[@cityoftrees9953]

Just like the wife to the mayor. She didn’t even know she was having children.

[@SaiScribbles]

9:41 Honestly I think the Mammalians are just so feral because all they need for their job is to be devoted to the goat care. And it's just a funny visual, I do think sometimes things are there just to be humorous in this show, but you never know!

[@RandalSterling]

Harmony changed her mind twice this episode, first turning around on the highway and doing a u-turn away from Salt Licks, then deciding not to go into Lumon with Helena after all. Strange indecisions stand out.

[@nikaknack]

That is so interesting that you pointed this out! It does seem uncharacteristic for her. I really want to know what is conflicting her...

[@RandalSterling]

The Security Room is renamed the Outie Visitation Suite. Ironic, because that’s where innie Dylan G enabled his teammates to visit their own outies. Aha!

[@nikaknack]

The irony of it lol

[@DanielDaPonte-v9l]

I just noticed the vending machine in the mamalians dept at 9:18 . It looks the same as the one in MDR

[@nikaknack]

Yes! I noticed that too!

[@AlsoSal]

The most interesting goat theory I heard, and I wish I remembered where so I could credit them, relies on the fact that goats historically represent malice, evil, stubbornness, and so on. I think in their efforts to create the perfect employee, Lumon are trying to remove that temperament or at least reduce it. That is possibly what MDR is doing when they refine the data, sorting out the malice (hence the “scary numbers”). Bit wacky but at least it’s not cliche and we know the writers are trying really hard not to be cliche.

[@nikaknack]

I think I read something like this too and it does seem plausible, I enjoyed the theory "The Great God Pan" theory

[@AlsoSal]

@@nikaknackyeah and I just thought maybe it’s not trying to tamp down those temperaments but learn how to harness them for Lumon’s benefit. Praise Kier.

[@MudLuvMedia]

Awesome vid! I especially like the idea for the visitation room and will forsure credit this theory to this vid in my next one!

[@nikaknack]

Please do! Thank you! Keep up the great work!

[@MudLuvMedia]

@nikaknack you as well! Killin these breakdowns 🤙🏿

[@mxvega1097]

Nice clip. I still had some Big Questions: - are Cobel and Helena on opposite sides of an internal factional or succession struggle? - how are the innies "tuned"? Eg Mark joins as a grief-stricken widower, becomes cheery and diligent. Dylan... Irv... Helly? - wtf is Jame Eagan's "revolving"? Is that some kind of soul download into Helena? Is he All The Eagans? - why did Jame tell Helena that the worldwide corporate vision was to turn everyone into children of Kier? - is outie land just another corporate quarantine zone? Why didn't Cobel break out? Loving the show. I think Ricken is being set up for his hubris to take him down.

[@anolive7535]

Here's my take: - We don't know yet exactly what's going on between Cobel and Helena. Helena seems to want to get rid of her but Cobel seems to have some sort of leverage that stops them for outright firing her, instead 'promoting' her to a useless position. Interestingly Cobel seems to really just want to manage the severed floor and doesn't seem all that interested in removing Helena or superseding her position as a board/executive member. - Since the severance procedure severs outside memories from the inside, any trauma from the outside is 'forgotten'. This means innie Mark is (initially) outie Mark's core personality. It was likely what he was like prior to the death of his wife. - Yeah your suspicion about the 'revolving' being several consciousnesses stored on a severance chip of the next heir of the Eagan's is seems to be the leading theory in the fandom. It also explains why James seems to act so...weirdly. Almost like multiple people are fighting for control over his speech at the same time. - James did not know Helena was in her innie form (Helly R) so he said it to her. He said it as a sort of celebration/congratulations for Helena's work - like "thanks to your hard work now our evil company agenda can be achieved". - We're not super certain, though the company town that the Lumon HQ is in seems to be in the middle of nowhere. Perhaps there isn't any physical barrier stopping Lumon employees from leaving, it's just the massive distance from any other civilisation. Cobel doesn't 'break out' not because she physically can't - there's something internal that she's dealing with. Note that she only turns back when she looks at the oxygen mask, which seems to hold significant sentimental value for her.

[@MonigMedia]

So this show really is Goated

[@thomascrownbuerger]

One thing that didn’t cross my mind until now is why Lumon would need anything from Ricken. I’d have to rewatch the scene with Ricken and Natalie to remember what all they talked about vs what they told Mark’s sister, but it seems anything within Lumon is secluded from the outside world. They don’t need Ricken or his permission to create any written material-unless we’re to believe his writings, ideas, and teachings are that truly groundbreaking-so why is Natalie doing a house-call? I guess after writing this the answer may simply be to appeal to Ricken’s ego as an author and philosopher hoping that supporting him will in turn convince him to support Lumon and therefore Mark’s presence at Lumon.

[@nikaknack]

I hope that’s where it goes, at least. I would also really like to see, which is unlikely, but nevertheless is how maybe the innies find more faith in Ricken and how Lumon deals with it. Maybe there will be a remake of the Perpetuity wing lol with Devon and Ricken and Eleanor and maybe even Mark

[@briankerr2102]

I figured Lumon was talking to Ricken to get information about what happened the night of his book reading- they know they're getting nothing from Devon, who is fiercely loyal to his brother.

[@thomascrownbuerger]

@ Hrm, maybe! That sounds so cultish. Or like the Stasi in East Germany. Either of which would be quite on brand for Lumon!

[@Deimpjes]

I believe the goats have something to do with cloning. I think Lumen is trying to revive Kier. Also that one scene between Mark and Helly/Helena got me to believe that it is in fact Helly. The smile gave it away for me. Could be wrong tho. Thanks for uploading every episode, you're doing great!

[@nikaknack]

Thank you for watching and enjoying the videos! Uggghhhh😅 the confusion of who is who lol but I will have to stick to it being Helena, I just thinks she’s so fascinated by the idea that her innie had a love interest on the severed floor and, in a way, fun

[@nick6956]

This shows writing is way too good for it to be about cloning

[@nikaknack]

I also saw an interview where they said it wasn’t cloning

[@cityoftrees9953]

It’s def Helena. She didn’t even know how to turn on the damn computer. That should be second nature to a innie. Also how she was looking at the footage. Like she wanted her innies life. I think the goats are just goats. Don’t think too hard about it. Each floor has a different task. Theirs is just taming goats.

[@jonsaboe2019]

I haven't heard anyone talk about the word 'reset' that Helena uses. I think that's an ominous term -- which could be the reason Cobel begins to freak out. She knows what they are capable of.

[@nikaknack]

YES! That is really good you pointed this out, I completely agree

[@polinashamanska8527]

Loved Lornes character! I think she will appear more in this season

[@nikaknack]

I hope…

[@zezeti2246]

Most definetly,I doubt they brought her just for a few scenes

[@Quigix]

Ricken and Kier share the same letters 😮

[@nikaknack]

Coincidence? I think not

[@DeezMatterz]

Wow. Quite did enjoy this

[@nikaknack]

Yay! I’m so glad! Thank you for the support!😊

[@danp2306]

@@nikaknack I think the Dylan theory is pretty interesting - haven't read anyone else suggest it.... I could see them writing iDylan (innie Dylan) getting the chance to switch with his outie - to be with the wife - if he 'rats' on his work colleagues in Lumon - as a spy, if you will.... he'll be conflicted, of course but I could see a Season finale in which he reluctantly screws their plans in exchange to switch with his outie - and thus, his outie with no insight or knowledge of anything that happened in Lumon being there at the end of the season. Thoughts? :)

[@78deathface]

How did Raghabi find Mark? She just appears in front of his car

[@nikaknack]

She does just appear in front of his car, maybe she was tracking him, but if you look behind her when she’s standing in front of the car and there is a house, maybe it’s hers or a location they agreed upon, but this is me reaching

[@anolive7535]

Yeah it was kinda weird. For a sec I thought that maybe she might even be working with Lumon, with the backdoor re-integration being some roundabout way to get what they want (what ever it is) though it doesn't really make sense. We know that the Lumon board are very interested in Mark S completing Cold Harbour, not firing him at all and even complying with his demands to have his co-workers back. We've seen through Pete that re-integrating an employee has severe (potentially fatal) side effects which would obviously just make completing Cold Harbour much harder.

[@the1betterpodcast84]

…guys! 😅how did Mark hurt his hand in Ep. 6 Hide and Seek??🥺

[@jimrodney4797]

Still very much love the show, and love your videos after each episode! I had the same question about why didn’t Helena try and steer him clear of the goat room idea, to avoid him discovering anything more, and a part of me thinks Helena didn’t know about the big goat room, and was as shocked to see it as Mark S. was? Maybe Helena is being groomed to be the next CEO mostly in name only, and only knows about half of what goes on in the Lumon Building?

[@nikaknack]

Thank you for the support! Exactly my thought regarding Helena-they say she is important, yet she does nothing to stop him, and he actually does some work on Cold Harbour. You know, I also thought about that too-she could just be the face of Lumon while secretly directing Milchick. But then, to Drummond, she says, "Are you happy now?" in Episode 2 which tells me shes not fully in control

[@Jinxed222]

This was a great video! I really like your content. I’d just like to make one small suggestion…that background music was fine at first but started to become really annoying and distracting the longer I watched the video. Maybe less of that? Anyway, still a great video!

[@nikaknack]

Thank you for watching and enjoying the video! Got it, will do next time! T

[@Jinxed222]

@ I don’t want to come off as rude at all so I hope that wasn’t the case! You’ve just got a pleasant voice and some great theories and explanations…I just found myself going, like hey what is that noise, oh it’s the video 😂

[@nikaknack]

Not at all! I was wondering about that anyway so it’s good that is was mentioned!

[@pgfarber6576]

I can wait for ricken's hell turn, but it is inevitable.

[@nikaknack]

Yeeees! So excited to see this

[@biaajeroza9754]

But why didn't Mark ask Reghabi about Gemma? How come she's alive, why does Lumen need her and what for? Instead, he agrees for reintegration straight away, no questions, even after what happened to Pete. That was odd, seemed false.

[@Maddasounds]

Keanu Reeves will act as Kier

[@nikaknack]

That will be interesting, I thought he just voiced the building in the stop motion

[@Maddasounds]

@@nikaknacklook at the pictures of kier and look at pictures of keanu, you can see it… I reckon they always had him in mind - and that building is kinda like an Easter egg leading to his reveal… that’s just my theory tho. Probably wrong lol

[@HobokenSquatCobbler]

No, Kier Eagan is played by Marc Geller. Keanu Reeves is used to voice the cartoon Lumon building.

[@esLBCmc]

Watch @ 1.5 playback speed..

[@Budabop]

Another great episode on both fronts! Tbh I def feel like it was obvious he was going to get reintegrated based on the new intro and the rest of the season is probably gonna be about mark dealing with this merger of the 2 “selfs”

[@nikaknack]

I am so excited to see what’s next! Thank you for the support

[@Clout_chasing_boy]

I am commenting this from my innie account

[@nikaknack]

blink twice if you are ok and tell us what is happening!!:D

[@Mana-Banana]

i think the driver is someone who killed her mom or had a part in it and she knew him from being a child but he didnt recognize her necessarily but prob wrong

[@nikaknack]

Thats interesting, so he is both a driver and hitman, honestly, could be...

[@leejohnson197733]

I wonder if they go back and show the rise of kier and the carnival days etc and why people worship kier. Also what does the company lumon do

[@nikaknack]

So do I!

[@phunkym8]

there are a couple of shows where 1 season, a mini series, would have been enough. but i have this feeling on a lot of movies and shows where it feels like season 1 is laser focused, a clear vision with an end goal that becomes more unfocused as seasons go on. squid games, silo, white lotus, true detective, house of the dragon, succession and severance all had amazing season 1s and so far every season 2 of those have been pretty mediocre to disappointing. severance and the season 1 end with the helly eagan or marks wife foto twist could have been the perfect cut-to-credits ending in the vein of a black mirror episode.

[@nikaknack]

I did see somewhere, I think instagram, that Ben Stiller knows how the show ends and i dont think they will drag it out or lose focus, or I hope so) I get what you mean, but so far they stuck to their word and aren't dragging anything out so far, the pace is picking up pretty quick

[@zezeti2246]

I hope they keep it at 3-4 seasons

[@nikaknack]

Same, anything more will be overkill

[@Tulpen23]

Looking at that painting of Kier next to Ricken’s pic, I wonder if the production team didn’t paint that portrait based on some of Ricken’s actor’s features (esp. the eyes & nose)

[@nikaknack]

That would be really cool if that were to happen

[@zezeti2246]

Have you seen how in that painting with the sick child you can see Mark standing down?! Can't take credit,I read about it

[@nikaknack]

I have to search this up now!

[@Aerie925]

There were things that I liked about Rickon and things that I didn’t like, mostly that he come across pretentious. And it seemed like he agreed with Devon in that he didn’t think Mark should sever. But how easily he seems to have been swayed by Lumon complimenting his book…blow I know he’s just a tool (not in the sense that he’s a tool for Lumon, but in the colloquial sense of that he’s a douche).

[@nikaknack]

I love this comment, well Ricken isnt the smartest fella there, he just cares about his book and will do anything to get it promoted

[@DB_Cooper.]

Content is great. Editing comment. You need a breath break between now and then or it seems overley unsettling and robotic.

[@nikaknack]

Thank you for this! This is one of my biggest worries, I also cut my voice bc I feel like no one wants to hear me breathe lol and sometimes I end up cutting parts of the words entirely, either way, I appreciate the comment, will try to improve that!

[@interestedinstuff]

Ricken... Rick N. Ex severed employee?

[@nikaknack]

I wish, could be, but he would be Ricken H. :(

[@interestedinstuff]

@@nikaknack No. I still think Ricken, is short for Rick N. I think it is another diversion. We'll see where it goes. 🙂

[@nikaknack]

Could be… I went to the image of the security room and they had the name Devon F.🤔 could be Marks sister but she would be Devon S. or Devon H.

[@RandalSterling]

Another great video Nika, keep it up! Here’s one I think you’ll like> The goat people ask to see their bellybuttons. Innies or outies? ;)

[@nikaknack]

LOL good one!!! Thank you for the support!

[@edweinb]

Helly died after her attempted suicide (i.e. she was never brought back). She showed how dangerous she was, and the Eagans would have never allowed her to have charge over Helena's body again.

[@nikaknack]

I never thought about that idea, I want to believe this and it would be interesting to see them play it out

[@janmitchell3976]

The goat hoarders atire is so they don't have clues to their jobs. I'll be damed if they don't look like a boat crew from the 1800s though

[@u64770]

In many of the recap theory videos people don't discuss Gwedoline Christie's right arm. She holds the sheers and then the bell that reminds me of holding a knife with the intent to stab/murder someone. The first thing she asks is if people she has never met were there to kill her. Why would this be the first question she asks in any environment if killing people wasn't normal or maybe even apppropriate? She wasn't isolated and expected people to help her when she rang a bell. She couldn't defend herself with a pair of sheers, especially the back end of device. The only people who were dressed anywhere near "appropriate" for what they werre doing in that section of the building were her and the man in the goat suit. I think most of the people in the Mammalian Nurturum were severed goats whose innies were recorded on the sevvy chips that got implanted into human bodies. The goats and the humans there are test subjects, and the goats innies have been used several times. That's would explain the goat sized human hallway, why most of them didn't speak, why Ms. Casey would meet with them in husbandry tank instead of set up any adjacent unused office as another wellness center, why a vending machine is in the middle of a pasture, why no one seemed to care that their clothes and bodies were filthy but also not ideal for being there (office attire for ranch work, not the most physically matched for ranch work). It would explain why the first question was are you to to kill me, but she didn't run or attack or seem afraid. It may even explain why Ms. Cobel ran in the final scene because recognized in Helena and the driver what she (Ms. Cobel) had done multiple times.

[@apagoogootwo7552]

cobel gets spooked because helena's chauffeur is baird egan. which means they have achieved some level of reanimation.

[@nikaknack]

I see the similarities, but why would they have an Eagan working as a chauffeur?

[@apagoogootwo7552]

@@nikaknack he's a work in progress, who needs to be given a relatively menial task wherein he can be closely monitored.

[@randosavich]

This show is turning bad so fast…

[@nikaknack]

Why? What do you mean?

[@zezeti2246]

Thus far it doesn't seem to have slip ups

[@randosavich]

@ I disagree, season 2 is mostly slip ups.

[@filthyclown8033]

@@randosavichwhy don’t you just explain instead of being contrary?

[@nikaknack]

Yes but whyyyyy, I am genuinely curious