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Counter Arguments

Counter Arguments

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@CounterArguments
@CounterArguments 5 жыл бұрын
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@joshuagalang5179
@joshuagalang5179 5 жыл бұрын
Look at the bright side. This video has a hell ton of views and you got more people in your audience. But you forgot about #6: alternatives. If there is a sex strike, others can just go to porn and hentai as an alternative to sex
@mattterway6487
@mattterway6487 5 жыл бұрын
What’s this? Political content on MY family-friendly corporate advertising platform? Can’t have that.
@mun6832
@mun6832 5 жыл бұрын
why in fuck is this even demonitized. i feel for ya man such good content you deserve to be compensated!
@joshuagalang5179
@joshuagalang5179 5 жыл бұрын
@@mun6832 there's an issue with Veritas going at Google. Anything that schools the left google demonetizes
@TapDat52K
@TapDat52K 5 жыл бұрын
Its because the use of a news clip. I feel it. This news sucks -.-
@thestargateking
@thestargateking 5 жыл бұрын
I’m also on a sex strike, I’m not sure I remember signing up for it though.
@Bean_Soup
@Bean_Soup 5 жыл бұрын
dan b that’s a fat RIP
@rakvian
@rakvian 5 жыл бұрын
F
@aquablue3dsi
@aquablue3dsi 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this comment got me winded
@MrCamzeys
@MrCamzeys 5 жыл бұрын
F
@briansinger5258
@briansinger5258 5 жыл бұрын
Hang tough, Dan. Focus on capital.
@carrier2823
@carrier2823 5 жыл бұрын
I like this because instead of pointing at mrs Milano and saying “look at the stupid things she said”, you just kinda explained how the movement wouldn’t play out properly. Instead of making fun of a poorly thought out public action, you just offer advice on how to properly fix the concept. I like that, nice and unbiased.
@JosephSmith-lm4ri
@JosephSmith-lm4ri 5 жыл бұрын
That last one is a self explanatory knee slapper right there though!
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 5 жыл бұрын
No fixing is required, they are doing exactly what should be done XD
@Azjamo
@Azjamo 5 жыл бұрын
Yea his videos are really nice because you can kinda tell what he leans towards but he still is pretty unbiased
@GachaGachaKingdom
@GachaGachaKingdom 5 жыл бұрын
You must be new here.
@xwarrior760
@xwarrior760 5 жыл бұрын
@@Azjamo Can you? I'm a follower of his for 3 years but I'm not sure. He takes on both left wing and right wing arguments.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 5 жыл бұрын
Huh. so this sex strike was pretty much first conceived as an ancient sitcom? wow thats just hilarious.
@gibuswagen7729
@gibuswagen7729 5 жыл бұрын
"Honey i'm home! (Applause) Oh thank Athena you are still alive, i thought i lost you already. Though, i have something to tell you; Im going in a sex strike (surprised voices) What?! You cant do that, i'm your husband! Not if you dont change that beer belly, clothes and end the war." -IDK Ghandi probably
@FilthyManatee
@FilthyManatee 5 жыл бұрын
How dare you laugh at those peoples comedies.
@hangukhiphop
@hangukhiphop 5 жыл бұрын
situational comedy is quite different from classical comedy
@briansinger5258
@briansinger5258 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant play actually. The Greeks did everything better, including LGBTQ...
@marlom7882
@marlom7882 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Eason life has become a satirical parody of itself. That’s not surprising at all though
@imborahey7568
@imborahey7568 5 жыл бұрын
Also, the women who are pro-choice are probably with men who are also pro-choice, so denying them sex will do what exactly?
@Nonco-1
@Nonco-1 5 жыл бұрын
They're doing exactly what the other side wants them to do. Not get pregnant.
@Enchie
@Enchie 5 жыл бұрын
And the few that are in such a relationship wouldn't do so anyway. I think they would have come to a understanding.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 5 жыл бұрын
@MultiTarded Let's be fair, there's a lot of very attractive women that are pro-choice.
@samo7070
@samo7070 5 жыл бұрын
@gjaddajg I would hate to live in the fantasy world you live in where somehow being a pro-choice women who wants to keep their bodily autonomy means you hate men. It just sounds like you're bitter. Just say you hate "libtards" and move on with your day. Atleast be honest with yourself
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 5 жыл бұрын
@@samo7070 Lol, are you dumb? OP literally said how there's as many pro-choice men as there are pro-choice women. He's talking about the specific people who are idiotic enough to do a "sex strike" on men in general, without thinking how a lot of men are pro-choice. Which shows an inherent attitude that all men are to blame for women having restrictions on abortions, thus showing an inherent hatred for men. You're the very thing you think he is. As in, you're trying to pigeonhole him the way you think he is doing to other people.
@defvent
@defvent 5 жыл бұрын
Sex strike for abortion? That's almost good enough to be a Monty Python sketch.
@Ando1428
@Ando1428 5 жыл бұрын
Almost?
@nictamer
@nictamer 5 жыл бұрын
How about a hunger strike against fat phobia?
@milesandrews6711
@milesandrews6711 4 жыл бұрын
@@nictamer yo can we have that
@1990gollum
@1990gollum 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it good enough to be a Monty Python sketch?
@GuyUWishUWere
@GuyUWishUWere 5 жыл бұрын
no. it's good enough to be a greek sketch though.
@briansinger5258
@briansinger5258 5 жыл бұрын
Spike Lee dis it recently. Works. Better than the Whamem but not as good as Aristophanes.
@dantevandeva7493
@dantevandeva7493 5 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it.
@soulswordobrigadosegostar
@soulswordobrigadosegostar 5 жыл бұрын
@@GuyUWishUWere a ancient Greek sketch might I add.
@maxlee6739
@maxlee6739 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s be real here when has the average man ever had influence in American policy?
@IsomerMashups
@IsomerMashups 5 жыл бұрын
Considering it's not a democracy, never.
@briansinger5258
@briansinger5258 5 жыл бұрын
1791-1861
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 5 жыл бұрын
@@briansinger5258 The AVERAGE man. Wealthy land owners were the people who influenced American politics back then, same as now.
@dominickperez2952
@dominickperez2952 5 жыл бұрын
We truly live in a society. Gamers, Rise Up to overcome the Furry Government
@cirenev3889
@cirenev3889 5 жыл бұрын
Dominick Perez facts
@TapDat52K
@TapDat52K 5 жыл бұрын
So in short, any action commited through identity politics, will only work if its countering laws that specifically target the initiators identity politcs, and all members of that identity would have reason to participate. Thanks counter arguments. Keep up the good work.
@bucketmanpalemin9603
@bucketmanpalemin9603 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone else started saying what I've been for saying since this sex strike thing started, Thank You
@homeofthemad3044
@homeofthemad3044 5 жыл бұрын
There's a sex strike? I hadn't really noticed.
@HeavensArcher77
@HeavensArcher77 5 жыл бұрын
Home of the Mad There’s not
@frogfan449
@frogfan449 5 жыл бұрын
I love how unbiased you try to make your videos, while still showing your opinion on the subject!
@Funnysterste
@Funnysterste 5 жыл бұрын
But as the woman from Liberia said: It only was for gaining media attention. 1:23
@rafasilva1265
@rafasilva1265 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think abortion doesn't have media attention though
@80ki68
@80ki68 5 жыл бұрын
Why can't anybody spell the names of African countries beginning with 'L'?
@PixelmanPXP
@PixelmanPXP 5 жыл бұрын
@@80ki68 Liberia Lybia Lesotho
@80ki68
@80ki68 5 жыл бұрын
LIBYA!
@Funnysterste
@Funnysterste 5 жыл бұрын
@@80ki68 Please forgive me?
@Nulono
@Nulono 5 жыл бұрын
There are two additional problems with this particular sex strike that you didn't quite touch on. #6: People generally tend to pair up with like-minded partners, so this movement is mostly only going to inconvenience men who already agree with their female partners. You could argue that it might light a fire under some pro-choice men to be more actively political, but that then leads to the next problem. #7: This sex strike doesn't have any clearly defined endgame. It's pretty easy to say you're going on strike until a war is ended or a road is paved. But Milano's is proposing that women refuse to have sex until... what? Until these specific laws are repealed? Until no one opposes abortion anymore? Until there's an abortion clinic on every street corner? You might as well say you're going on strike until we've "solved racism"; there's just no way to define what counts as success.
@RuleOf18Clans
@RuleOf18Clans 5 жыл бұрын
One of the worst things politics does is get people to pretend complex situations are simple. I am pro choice, but I come to that decision because I understand that some times it's necessary. I would absolutely advocate for a law where by a woman who treats abortions frivolously is subjected to some form of program the same way an abuser of alcohol or drugs may be sentenced. Abortion is a disgusting thing. It's a tragedy. It absolutely should be something women try to avoid. But the option should still exist.
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 5 жыл бұрын
I fully agree, and it's why, for the longest time, I was pro choice. Now, with what so many pro choice people are doing and saying, I feel like pro life is actually the best side for me to take. Abortion should only be a last resort, but so many people, including people I once called friends, think abortion should just be another form of birth control, and that, to me, is absolutely sick. I'd rather take the side of those who think abortion should be illegal, because at least they aren't championing a horrible, albeit sometimes necessary, act
@lopenash
@lopenash 5 жыл бұрын
Meerkat More Outlawing it won't stop it from happening, it will just mean that people will die from getting it done in an alleyway. You can't say abortion is sometimes necessary and still advocate for outlawing it.
@RuleOf18Clans
@RuleOf18Clans 5 жыл бұрын
@@lopenash See, that's politics talking. It's not that we are explicitly opposed to abortions in any form. It's that we can't support the behavior and views of pro choice activism as it currently exist.
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 5 жыл бұрын
@@lopenash I didn't say I want it outlawed, I said it's better to side with the people who want it outlawed than with the people who think that killing a baby should be celebrated. Also, do you apply the same logic to gun control? And have you actually looked at the statistics for deaths due to illegal abortions before it was legalized? The numbers are borderline negligible
@checkmate058
@checkmate058 5 жыл бұрын
I feel you. But im on the other side and wish i wasn't TLDR Im pro life and it pains me because reasons. I understand laws dont pevent unplesnt things, and only serve to provide means to conduct a punishment. And i agreei with the notion that abortion is a moral obsenaty but also seeing that its something people do under difficult circumstances And any law on the matter would be assumeing bodily atonomy over someone and fourcing them to conduct something they dont wish to do. And our scocietys safety net for unwanted child has a high likelyhood of doing them a lot if harm. Thats why I am in great pain to say even knowing all that, an abortion is something women should be prevented from conducting.
@PrairieWindSun
@PrairieWindSun 5 жыл бұрын
Horribly stupid effort even for their own side. Its like scoring a goal for the enemy team.
@foxxx2744
@foxxx2744 5 жыл бұрын
At best, it's being down a goal and just passing the ball to-and-fro in the backfield until time expires.
@jerry3790
@jerry3790 5 жыл бұрын
I knew about the Greek play, but would never have thought people would try this now. There’s a reason that it was a comedy.
@napalmblaziken
@napalmblaziken 5 жыл бұрын
I saw one person who claimed that the play was actual history.
@Ibarakify
@Ibarakify 5 жыл бұрын
@@napalmblaziken There is a grain of truth in almost all Greek comedy. The Clouds is a hot wash of nonsense for instance, but it does demonstrate that Greek attitudes toward pederasty/intercrural sex were negative rather than the commonly held belief that everyone though it was OK (it was, at the very least, something you could point at and mock/ridicule/laugh about). Some of the comedies are actually quite polemical in this way.
@texasbrotherbear6863
@texasbrotherbear6863 5 жыл бұрын
I swear this is one of the best channels I’ve ever seen
@Jahu-qs2us
@Jahu-qs2us 5 жыл бұрын
"Just rub one out! Its the champagne of victory!!" - Bill Burr
@megauser8512
@megauser8512 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@EarFarce4
@EarFarce4 5 жыл бұрын
Considering the actual number of men that do get laid compared to the ones that don't these 'strikes' shouldn't work.
@chongo5064
@chongo5064 5 жыл бұрын
I have watched countless videos of this channel and I have continuously paid attention to every word inside those videos. I enjoy watching this channel because any argument being discussed is ALWAYS presented in a respectful and logical manner, and ALWAYS contains both sides of every argument being shown. Shame on KZbin for demonetizing just because they dislike the truth being said. Even though this video ultimately chose a side of the argument, no part of the other argument was left out, in fact it was encouraged and if encouraging and rationalizing your argument leads to it deconstructing itself, it may be because you don't have a particularly good argument.
@harryradley
@harryradley 5 жыл бұрын
Remember those conversations back in the day about who the best girl on Charmed was? Now it's an undisputed victory for Shannon Doherty 😂
@IsomerMashups
@IsomerMashups 5 жыл бұрын
Prue is best girl.
@CaptainSweatpants90
@CaptainSweatpants90 5 жыл бұрын
Funny comment, but what about Holly Marie Combs (Piper)? Can't remember her doing anything overly stupid, so she should at least be considered, shouldn't she?
@harryradley
@harryradley 5 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainSweatpants90 Yeah if we're being completely fair then you're right. The fact she's not a raving lunatic puts her ahead of Milano and McGowan, but yeah it would have made for a less punchy comment.
@PatheticApathetic
@PatheticApathetic 5 жыл бұрын
Look, Rose McGowan is terrible, but I’ll be damned if Paige wasn’t the best Charmed One. She was the hottest, and she was the only one who wasn’t a completely self-centered harpy by the end
@CaptainSweatpants90
@CaptainSweatpants90 5 жыл бұрын
@@harryradley I can sign that :D
@runevi
@runevi 5 жыл бұрын
Milano is really great example of the child that grew up in the showbiz/Hollywood bubble and has never known anyone who didn't exist within that subculture. She's probably never associated with someone who is a centrist, let alone right wing. I mean I think she moved to LA at like 12 and was acting way before that. I remember Stern talking about how living in Hollywood really messes with your head; it's almost like they live on another planet!
@AANasseh
@AANasseh 5 жыл бұрын
Sure made you make this video on the subject and brought light to something I did not know was happening! So, yes, it is effective for media coverage!
@matteoluca1
@matteoluca1 5 жыл бұрын
Well he never questioned if it was effective for media coverage. In fact he provided that as a positive of the movement. It certainly “raises awareness” to the issue but he questions rather in this context it is enough to enact change if it doesn’t fit those other listed requirements.
@AANasseh
@AANasseh 5 жыл бұрын
@@matteoluca1 And I didn't say that he didn't. question its effectiveness. But effectiveness of increasing awareness is half the battle in a political position. As I mentioned, I didn't know and I'm Pro choice. Now I know what's going on thanks to this tactic!
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 5 жыл бұрын
like the whole thing is a publicity stunt and it worked. i think we logic warriors get caught in the pointless details at the best of times. it's like going after o'reilly's tide comment or calling obama a muslim. these aren't arguments, they're feelings.
@matteoluca1
@matteoluca1 5 жыл бұрын
Real World Endo the way you worded made it seem like he was questioning if it was effective for media coverage, so apologies for the confusion on my part. In regards to your extended argument, in my opinion, even if half the battle is raising awareness, what use is it if once people are aware all they focus on is presenting the fallacies in your argument. There’s always the argument of there’s no such thing as bad publicity I guess, but I wonder.
@matteoluca1
@matteoluca1 5 жыл бұрын
JewTube although I agree with the larger argument that, politically, sometimes an argument to the emotional rather than one grounded in logic may be more effective, I wouldn’t call it getting caught up in pointless details, that’s the whole point of this channel, to challenge arguments on their merits, failings and successes, regardless if the campaign backing it was effective or not. As in we can question the “take back control” slogan of the Brexit campaign, and present some failings in the logic behind it, however we can’t question its effectiveness. Since the Brexit campaign was ultimately successful. But improving your argumentative powers is never a bad thing in my opinion.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 5 жыл бұрын
4:25 hmm so i wonder if a sex strike would be more effective if they asked men to also do it. because then it would affect women as well. but its not very effective either way.
@Psy_Ro
@Psy_Ro 5 жыл бұрын
we live in a world with tinder. If someone is not willing to fuck, there are other people who are.
@Peter-Franz
@Peter-Franz 5 жыл бұрын
You voice is so clear I can listen on 3x speed. Also, the arguments kinda Fuego. Keep it up!
@zarodgaming1844
@zarodgaming1844 5 жыл бұрын
Ben: "Sound's Good to me !". That's all i needed to hear Shapiro-chan.
@abooper960
@abooper960 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see another counter arguments video
@Scooter_Alice
@Scooter_Alice 5 жыл бұрын
I believe it was Bill Burr who said something to the effect of denying sex is like "putting a chain around the fridge when you've got a sandwich in your pocket." In reference to masturbation. In layman's terms, if I can rub one out, why should I care if I don't get any? Besides, me getting sex will never be more important than my principles, so a sex strike wouldn't make me agree with you. As noble as the intentions may be, it's impractical, wouldn't work, and, as stated in the video, is more than a bit offensive to men and women alike.
@Snaxophone
@Snaxophone 5 жыл бұрын
You say the tactic doesn't work because not all women participate, but then you say in your examples it did work, because of the media attention. You neglect to consider the point that she was just doing it for media attention, which is the logical conclusion. I think most people already know the tactic isn't effective on a large scale in practicality (women not having sex), but only effective in the media it stirs up. Like this video.
@TheSkullkid16
@TheSkullkid16 5 жыл бұрын
Always good to hear my reasonings explained to my conscious, since my subconscious never explains half of why I do what I do. Thanks, very informative!
@HaloWolf102
@HaloWolf102 5 жыл бұрын
That's almost as good as a Monty Python skit!
@MrMasterDebate
@MrMasterDebate 5 жыл бұрын
Women: Sex Strike Men: Well...im breaking up with you, bye! Women: Wut-thats illegal
@megauser8512
@megauser8512 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@JB-ru4fr
@JB-ru4fr 5 жыл бұрын
im confused wouldnt it be possible for both men and women to participate?
@Ladondorf
@Ladondorf 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, glad I got to see it early.
@thesfnb.5786
@thesfnb.5786 5 жыл бұрын
Man. Took yer time to cover this subject, but go ya did! Good to see you going strong again. Even though you have practically done exactly that for all this time. Wait what was I supposed to talk about again?
@SlimThrull
@SlimThrull 5 жыл бұрын
I love how she directed her comments towards denying white men sex when they're the most likely to be pro-choice. Yeah, Alyssa, don't let things like facts stop you.
@hehehehehehehehehehe111
@hehehehehehehehehehe111 5 жыл бұрын
I think the idea behind a sex strike is inherently sexist because it assumes that women don’t need sex and men do. I’m pro choice and so is my boyfriend, so the only thing denying him sex would do is make us both miserable.
@cortexavery1324
@cortexavery1324 5 жыл бұрын
It does'nt assume that at all. But in a society where women hold few power in the governement the power of sex is proportionaly bigger for women that for men.
@harveybeaver9731
@harveybeaver9731 5 жыл бұрын
What if they made an abstinence strike instead?
@Hehe-nt4oe
@Hehe-nt4oe 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@GiantRogueWave
@GiantRogueWave 5 жыл бұрын
Another point that wasn’t really brought up is that, since there are pro-choice men, pro-choice women who withhold sex from pro-choice men are...punishing people who support their caused based only on their gender. Since intentionally withholding affection in a relationship is considered a form of abuse, pro-choice women who did this would likely anger a percentage of the pro-choice men they were with unnecessarily. In terms of political movements, intentionally pissing off your allies and causing some of them to switch sides is never a smart idea.
@TheAtheistPerson
@TheAtheistPerson 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I love how you remain impartial and only go with logic and facts. Keep it up. :)
@kayaoconnell16
@kayaoconnell16 5 жыл бұрын
Hey @Counter Arguments, I have a few thoughts/questions. Premise #1 Unanimous participation is essential. Question: When have we ever needed unanimous participation to enact policy or social change? Premise #2 Will have no effect on powerful women. Question: Dose it need to effect all powerful women or just some powerful women? Premise #3 Can only effect actions, not beliefs. Question(s): Aren't the actions, i.e. outcomes, of policies or social changes the determining factor as to weather or not they are effective? furthermore, wouldn't the embracing of social changes indicate a shift in beliefs of the population in question? Premise #4 Its an insult to both sexes. overall I tend to agree with this premise, that it is insulting to both sexes to imply that sex is a serve provided by women for men and not a mutually beneficial agreement between two consenting individuals (adults). However there dose seem to be an implication that all men are more socially conservative than women, and thus would not be ok with pro-choice legislation or social changes being enacted. Question: What responsibilities do men have to curve the need for abortions? Premise #5/conclusion: Not a smart way to protest an abortion ban It seems that this argument is framed in a way that would imply getting attention in this manner, while effective, is not what we ought to do. So what would you consider to be a smart way to protest an abortion ban, if at all? I would love to hear your thoughts on this, thank you.
@jrAndThings
@jrAndThings 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another wonderfully articulated point. Well done
@mjsambo9418
@mjsambo9418 5 жыл бұрын
I only have disagreement with #3 of your points in your relation to “changing” the abortion laws vs changing of beliefs. I will say as someone who is pro-choice: the legal argument why abortion should not be illegal is that defining life in the womb by a religious metric (which applies to almost all of pro-life supporters) should be unconstitutional because it infringes on separation of church and state. Furthermore, how we define life in the womb on a legal level should be done under an objective scientific basis, not a religious one. The hope is for religiously motivated people to come to acknowledge, while it is completely okay to hold your own religious beliefs on the topic of life and abortion, your religious belief should not and cannot be applied to legislature on a topic of secular human rights. It’s not a matter of changing the persons beliefs, it’s a matter of upholding what should be constitutional law. So the strike, although it has its other issues as you pointed out, is not about changing the people’s beliefs on abortion but rather changing the law to become secular and constitutional once again. Other than that, good and interesting video.
@somekindofname7859
@somekindofname7859 5 жыл бұрын
So if states change how they define life couldn't they get around R v W like I believe in Texas if u kill a person who is going to have a baby it a double murder
@nicholasmacneil6524
@nicholasmacneil6524 5 жыл бұрын
I mean.. I don't think there is a significant difference between a baby minutes before or after birth, but abortion laws in canada do. now I don't know where the line is to be drawn but I think most people can agree at the very least that "at birth" was not a time chosen after rigorous scientific study and meditation on ethics. maybe if you need to manually dismember the fetus for it to be small enough to be removed, maybe, that's too late to be anything other than murder. I may be a catholic, but I don't think that has a lot to do with my distaste for killing.
@Retired3115
@Retired3115 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a knee slapper
@twixerclawford
@twixerclawford 5 жыл бұрын
There's another major problem with the strike you didn't list: it didn't seem like it had an end goal. The one about war and the one about the road did have an end goal to get, but the one here of... what? Maintaining abortion rights forever? How is that a goal that can be achieved? The best option would be for the sex strike to be until the pro-life legeslation is repealed, but there will still people attempting to take it down. Will the strike continue until there are no people who want abortion rights to be banned?
@cortexavery1324
@cortexavery1324 5 жыл бұрын
He sould not have made this point seeing how is talking about whether sex strikes in the context of abortion are useful, not specificaly about whether allyssa milano's sex strike is useful.
@twixerclawford
@twixerclawford 5 жыл бұрын
@@cortexavery1324 wouldn't this apply to those cases as well?
@cortexavery1324
@cortexavery1324 5 жыл бұрын
@@twixerclawford ? The point is that seeing that not all sex strikes will poorly define their goals he should'nt have counter that argument cause the video would have diverted from "the case against sex strikes for abortion" to a case against one specific sex strike.
@thecognitiverambler8911
@thecognitiverambler8911 5 жыл бұрын
To compound on point# 1; the political alignments of couples tends to align. Not always, but often. So the result in this example is women denying sex to their male partners who probably already agree with them on abortion rights. It seems like the opposite of a persuasive move since, by design, it will be failing to target the people whose minds these activists would actually want to change.
@FlapMeister
@FlapMeister 5 жыл бұрын
Being conservative does not equal being pro life. The political discussion encompasses a lot of different topics. Two people who are republican can have vast differences of opinion about many topics. This is a problem of a two party system. In other words: a pro choice person may vote republican, leading to anti abortion legislation. A person may not care that this is a consequence, until his wife won't have sex with him.
@thecognitiverambler8911
@thecognitiverambler8911 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlapMeister I understand that. But my point is couples *tend* to be people of political agreement. No? Obviously this is not always true. But I imagine it often is.
@simil-kung5610
@simil-kung5610 5 жыл бұрын
There is one more point you didn’t completely address: a sex strike by female pro-choice-activists will mostly affect their male partners - which, at least in most cases, probably are pro-choice themselves. Male partners of pro-live-woman are not hit by it anyway and therefore not challenged to abandon their view on the subject. So the sex strike mostly affects people who already have liberal views on this subject matter.
@CounterCultureWISE
@CounterCultureWISE 5 жыл бұрын
Amen. When she posted that, my reaction was... Giggle, snort.
@Cubelarooso
@Cubelarooso 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen it argued that a man denying sex to a woman is abusive.
@popstarprincess123
@popstarprincess123 2 жыл бұрын
I have too It’s also seen as discrimination
@minichou
@minichou 5 жыл бұрын
Anndd reason #6: The sex strike won't work because flesh lights and real dolls exist
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 5 жыл бұрын
The word "regressive left" keeps ringing true.
@Azknowledgethirsty
@Azknowledgethirsty 5 жыл бұрын
Number 2 & 4 is the worst shortcomings, like how?? In a liberal society like ours there is no place to sexism and this is assuming it's still so widespread that gender roles are fixed... I cannot believe we're in 2019 with this attitude, not even the most regressive conservative thinks like this
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon 5 жыл бұрын
This is why people don't want prostitution being legal: the sexual marketplace becomes a free market, and when you're using sex to control, the last thing you want is competition that doesn't give a crap about your stupid cause. Arguably, if "sex strikers" can make you take actions to get access to sex, you're paying, just not with money. Legalize prostitution.
@spiffinglyBritish
@spiffinglyBritish 5 жыл бұрын
Another good one, love this new style! :)
@jonnyspace50
@jonnyspace50 5 жыл бұрын
1:00 I would recommend you simply say it is for any gender/sex, or ask why you believe it is exclusively an action a group of women can do
@atmentod
@atmentod 5 жыл бұрын
Well thought. Well argued. If anything, you make this entire scenario seem like some comedic play.
@adamtemplo99
@adamtemplo99 5 жыл бұрын
Is ending a war not also a compromise of ideology?
@illoney5663
@illoney5663 5 жыл бұрын
"A sex strike can work, but only if virtually all women in an affected population participate and only if men have all the power." Well, men can go on a sex strike as well, so this fact is not necessarily relevant. The remaining points are valid though, as well as the way Alyssa portrayed it here giving the impression you spoke of.
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 5 жыл бұрын
no we can't. we want it more than they do. this can be quantified in any region where prostitution is legal and you'll notice men pay for sex >20x more than women do.
@illoney5663
@illoney5663 5 жыл бұрын
This is an overgeneralisation, I don't even know the statistics on whether this is true or not but it doesn't matter, it varies from person to person. Just because you have a relationship with two people of different gender doesn't mean that one of the genders will always be wanting sex more. Even in the same relationship it could vary, at some times one partner might be hornier, the next week it's flipped. My point is that it's not as black and white as he(and now you)make it out to be.
@bankcolgate2155
@bankcolgate2155 5 жыл бұрын
Religious Conservatives: “Have less sex, you heathens!” Alyssa: “Okay, I’ll do exactly that!”
@Joosejpr
@Joosejpr 5 жыл бұрын
No post credit scene?!
@jayfaisa6016
@jayfaisa6016 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize sex strikes were used in different countries, and proved to be successful.
@gabedurno6780
@gabedurno6780 5 жыл бұрын
In conclusion, they bamboozled themselves.
@trebmaster
@trebmaster 5 жыл бұрын
They've been smeckledorfed!
@krombopulos_michael
@krombopulos_michael 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, a video that covers some aspect of the abortion debate in a way that actually acknowledges the arguments of both sides instead of just treating everyone in the pro life movement as an evil man who hates women and doesn't want them to have sex.
@Chujutsu
@Chujutsu 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job breaking it, pro-choicers! Had a laugh with how ridiculous the whole sex strike is, especially when it's essentially the abstinence that the pro-life side advocated
@ghostnoodle9721
@ghostnoodle9721 5 жыл бұрын
1:41 I dont think any tears were shed when the water hippo put the ol bat away
@earlphillips1468
@earlphillips1468 5 жыл бұрын
How did you skip the sex strike for banning alcohol in the US
@patriotfreak54
@patriotfreak54 5 жыл бұрын
As always, great video!
@MrDreadEnd
@MrDreadEnd 5 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand why unanimous participation is essential?
@nathanprindler
@nathanprindler 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. This was the best summary of the whole situation by far. Love me some Ben Shapiro.
@Jotari
@Jotari 5 жыл бұрын
Something no one really brought up on the stream, maybe because it was overtly obvious, but isn't the very fact that the idea was first conceived (to out knowledge) in a comedy kind of point to the idea that the whole thing is slightly absurd?
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 5 жыл бұрын
Good, Milano is doing exactly what pro-life people want, pro-life women won't listen to her because they are with their pro-life husbands or boyfriends, and on top of that it's showing that Milano and her fellow pro-abortionists has their autonomy and are clearly making a CHOICE there .. one of the many choices pro-life people kept telling them they have over the year.
@mrrandomdude4291
@mrrandomdude4291 5 жыл бұрын
6) The all powerful internet has unlimited porn!
@rame4079
@rame4079 5 жыл бұрын
Pon traducción en español
@YizzTheEunuch
@YizzTheEunuch 5 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual CA! Keep it up
@dreadpirateroberts4764
@dreadpirateroberts4764 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a discord server?
@amvCBG
@amvCBG 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder when men will have reproductive rights
@ihatejasonfu
@ihatejasonfu 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, a driving strike until speed limits are raised could still work (if enough people were on board) with the damage it would do to the economy by reducing the flow of goods and services and capital considerably. The only ones that need to be affected are the people in power- not the entire opposition. Still, the choice of this 'cutting of your nose to spite your face' strategy is not the ideal course of action unless one wants to maximize that 'ironic punishment' aspect.
@brianevans4
@brianevans4 5 жыл бұрын
This is the most Ludacris idea I have ever heard of. How do people take her seriously? That is more punishment for the women than the men
@lushiscat
@lushiscat 5 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime," the crime being unprotected sex and the time is pregnancy or being responsible, this is a no-brainer...
@MichaelMarteens
@MichaelMarteens 5 жыл бұрын
Leymah Gbowee: Add sex if you want lots of views Counter Arguments: I suddenly got an idea for a video! I say this in jest. well made video that had me thinking things over.
@aunnaqvi3133
@aunnaqvi3133 5 жыл бұрын
Alyssa Milano: lets go on a sex strike Me: You're getting paid for this shit?
@iandyke4412
@iandyke4412 5 жыл бұрын
I’m back with a real hard-hitting question: What is your preferred type of Sticky Note?
@aliets
@aliets 5 жыл бұрын
Paper
@johnnyslokes89
@johnnyslokes89 5 жыл бұрын
"restrictive abortion laws, mostly in southern states" Map comes up and i counted a lot more states (like 17? from not the south that had at least introduced or passed one chamber compared to only 8 southern states.
@seana3012
@seana3012 5 жыл бұрын
What’s great about this channel is that he takes no side just simply calls bullshit when he sees it
@guul66
@guul66 5 жыл бұрын
but... it got media attention? so in the end it did accomplish what it was supposed to?
@jessefletcher2365
@jessefletcher2365 5 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. The abortion debate already had all of the attention it needed, especially since the pro-choice side is the mainstream perspective. If anything, Alyssa Milano was preaching to the choir, not gaining extra attention that wasn't there before. I highly doubt her call for sex strikes made anyone think "wow, now I suddenly for the first time in my life want to support pro-choice policies".
@kais.597
@kais.597 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how so many people skip over the fact that Kay Ivey is the WOMAN who signed the abortion bill into law! Without even formulating an opinion on abortion, I immediately lose sympathy for Prochoicers when they complain about the abortion bill being a testament to the "oppressive patriarchal system" we live in. It's such a pathetic and oversimplified notion I find myself arguing in favor of prolife even tho I'm not even entirely on the pro life train
@abuzzedwhaler7949
@abuzzedwhaler7949 5 жыл бұрын
V excited to watch this video
@Rafael57YT
@Rafael57YT 5 жыл бұрын
You were very quick to jump on decise conclusions from shallow bits of logic, but I can agree on some points
@alexalford7874
@alexalford7874 5 жыл бұрын
I think that anyone trying to do sex strikes ends up screwing things up in the bigger picture, especially if it has to do with women’s rights. The reason why is because rather than having people stop doing what they’re doing because they genuinely care, you’re instead having them stop just so they don’t miss out on sex. And, if you’re doing it for something like women’s rights, you kind of defeat there purpose by treating yourselves like objects for sex.
@williamfrancis5367
@williamfrancis5367 5 жыл бұрын
"The idea of the sex strike is that until women are given autonomy over their own bodies they ought to withhold access to the reproductive system from the men who are pursuing anti-abortion laws. It is an interesting theory, though one with a few obvious flaws. For one thing, the kind of women ready to stage a sex strike are unlikely to be sleeping with the kind of men who need educating in this matter." Robert Shrimsley, FT
@andyroo8j422
@andyroo8j422 5 жыл бұрын
This is why it is important to have sex robots as a backup for situations like these.
@ararepotato1420
@ararepotato1420 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@j.c.2240
@j.c.2240 5 жыл бұрын
Something more effective would be if, in protest, large numbers of women left the state, got sterilized, and came back. Obviously this is very drastic and irreversible, so a lot of women wouldn't want to do something like this. But it would definitely get politicians' attention (For those that don't know, Alabama, as a state, is really against the idea of not having kids.) So removing the ability to get pregnant in the first place would be possibly the biggest incident of malicious compliance in the US. And would technically be legal, since no one left for the purpose of getting an abortion.
@magww1
@magww1 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like this needs to be a big bang episode. Cringy, awkward and just a plee for attention.
@ketflixchill6727
@ketflixchill6727 5 жыл бұрын
I used to yell sex before a presentation many years ago worked exactly as planned
@bvoyelr
@bvoyelr 5 жыл бұрын
100% chance this is monetized.
@NotRealButReal
@NotRealButReal 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao so the sex strike is both a literal and figurative joke. Beautiful.
@andersjohnson1317
@andersjohnson1317 5 жыл бұрын
How better to own the conservatives than to chose abstinence!
@kresovk5
@kresovk5 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on finding your style again! Even though Milano inspired this video, it certainly wasn't attack on her.
@BerserkerAngel86
@BerserkerAngel86 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a counter argument for "pro life" and pro choice "?
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