Seyyed Hossein Nasr - Eternal Life is Like What?

[@jj9homer]

Barak Allhu fik, ya Sidi! "By some great mystery we are given the power to be conscious of our own nothingness in the divinity." "Ultimately only the Real is real." The Oneness of Being.

[@LoVeLoVe-bi2rq]

I would like to see more videos about Sufi Muslim metaphysics and philosophy on this channel

[@johnnychrome7708]

Same

[@abdallahassan6044]

Funny to see a comments section full of atheists angry about......something they profess not to believe in.

[@fr3d42]

The thing is, what you believe influences your actions. I don't care about the Muslims who obey the laws and respect my culture, but I have a problem with those who attacks and kill my fellow countrymen!

[@abdallahassan6044]

@@fr3d42 The overwhelming majority of Muslims living in Western obey the local laws and respect the culture. However, the same can not be said about the average western mans disposition to Muslims (with respect to culture). We're always painted in a less than favorable way in form of media. Also, where's your concern for innocent Muslims died in endless overseas. Your concern for human life begins and ends at your countries borders?

[@fr3d42]

@@abdallahassan6044 Why would you assume that I don't care about humans outside of my country? I'm explaining to you why atheist would care about what people believe. I have no problem with muslims who obey our laws and share our values. Many passages in the coran are in conflict with my country's laws and values, and I have a problem when people get beheaded for drawings!

[@abdallahassan6044]

@@fr3d42 My "fellow countrymen" reeks of a weird kind of exceptionalism so I feel that my assumption was warranted. Muslims don't condone extremist violence. Full stop. The edicts written in the Quran are irrelevant to anyone that isn't Muslim, let alone in a country that has separation of church and state. Our laws are for us to follow. Lastly, freedom of speech has limitations. To pretend it doesn't is absurd. So when an individual makes a drawing that may upset unstable individual, that's on them. Your problem doesn't lie with "passages in the coran" or perceived contradictory values. They lie with extremism. Muslims observably value pluralism.

[@arianagrandaremix8858]

lol yet ur the only one crying here

[@nomanvardag1]

God is the ultimate reality of our universe, for the believers, for the atheists, and for the agnostics.

[@abduazirhi2678]

Ultimately, only the Ultimate Being is Real !! ...magnificently beautiful ...

[@somethingyousaid5059]

That your life was forced on you rather than offered to you is a fact you can only resent.

[@johntexas8417]

I'm sure we can do something about that.

[@alihammadshah]

How can life be offered to non-existence? You have to live to be make that choice, you can always drown yourself to realize this freedom you desire.

[@somethingyousaid5059]

Existence and Nonexistence are mutually exclusive states. But Life is a phenomenon that's exclusive to only the one of those states.

[@MultiAmmar2000]

I think you are talking about anti-natalism right? Similar to the likes of Al Maari or Zapffe or Benatar or Ligotti or Cioran? I myself are an avid reader of these philosophy books (not all of them I like, but I find many of them, and anti-natalism itself interesting if not appealing haha. Especially that of consent, or of Al Maari who says he has not passed down the "curse" his father passed down to him, or of Zapffe who, and I would agree too, when he talks about consciousness and that it is in a way overevolved like Deer with overmassive antlers and is antibiological, Although I am of course not one). In islam we believe every soul said that it wants to be in this earth/come into the test lol. Quite simple. "And ˹remember˺ when your Lord brought forth from the loins of the children of Adam their descendants and had them testify regarding themselves. ˹Allah asked,˺ “Am I not your Lord?” They replied, “Yes, You are! We testify.” ˹He cautioned,˺ “Now you have no right to say on Judgment Day, ‘We were not aware of this.’" (Surah Al Araf verse 172) "And remember the favor of Allah upon you and His covenant with which He bound you when you said, "We hear and we obey"; and fear Allah. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of that within the chests."(Surat Al-Mā'idah,verse 7) Do we remember being asked about this? Of course not lol because we do not remember or know what happens before we exist. The same way we cannot say we did not consent to come into existence, and indeed God alone is the all knowing.

[@stefanschmidbauer6075]

I think people should pull them selfs a bit back with their cynical comments. If Penrose makes wild assumptions on the cycle of the Universe and it being reborn people wet their pants from excitement. He's being congratulated to think outside the box. If Nasr *states* how the Islamic world sees afterlife he's being ridiculed. That's why we can't have nice things.

[@williamesselman3102]

Demons

[@cicholasnage]

Exactly! At the very least Nasr is not even one of those apologists who's shoving his beliefs down people's throat.

[@unaibqaiser777]

The ultimate heavenly feeling is meeting GOD. That is heaven for me

[@Yameen200]

The beatific visiion is so confusing. According to theology and philosophy god is an immaterial mind that is spaceless, timeless etc, What would we even be meeting, Staring at god for eternity ?

[@unaibqaiser777]

@@Yameen200 thats what theology and philosophy tells us. That doesn't make it true. Man even we are unique by our fingerprints, like a unique id of a product. We are products of someone or something. He created energy, material, 4 dimensions. He is probably not made of by something he made. He is unfathomable for our minds. To me experience/meet/observer/feel GOD is heaven

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

wow he answered all questions with logic and rational.

[@dust001]

Where's is the logic and rationality in his answers? Did you even watch the video? He just gave a description of his heaven as mentioned in his scriptures, no different if you ask a Norseman what is Valhalla like.

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

@@dust001 Do you believe there is hell exist in the hereafter and people will subjected to hell ? Are you a Christian?

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Eternal life is true being, of true self, true genuine feeling in spirit that can be found & experienced in immersion of music & art(energy is of life, symbology is language of Spirit). You will not have eternal life if is not already in you -- those of whom are blessed, nourish this state daily in rejoicing, dance, expression; being. THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU -- not all find it. Requires a key.

[@SabiazothPsyche]

Eternal life is indicative to a life without beginning, and without ending. However, "everlasting life" is different.

[@traductionscultureen-arver2307]

Absolutely

[@nibbioreale]

I'd like to suggest 3 questions: What if i enjoy inflict pain to others? Is it all just Plato? Why is it all in the afterlife and not here?

[@ramaraksha01]

That is how cults work - like the Heaven's gate cult whose members killed themselves - at the beginning they would be taken to magic land of ease alive! And there would be a sign! That was the mistake - the leader said ok this comet would come and that is the sign! Problem was the comet comes and goes and still no change That was the mistake he made - he tied it to a confirmed event Religions don't make that mistake The magic land is only after death "He is coming any day now" - no definite date - and then they would point to one disaster or another and say that is a sign - he is coming any day now! Again nothing specific Amazingly they keep finding new suckers every year

[@normaodenthal8009]

It’s gardens all the way up, and all the way down. There’s even a garden inside us. Of course, there has to be a gardener.

[@dheerajmalhotra7245]

All living beings are eternal only our material body is temporary our consciousness is eternal. eternal life is pure, true, unlimited, infinite, full of compassion, real world where GOD resides. We are in simulated reality after bodily death our consciousness enters in conscious reality or eternal life which is real & fundamental reality in all realities & Supreme conscious (GOD) governs conscious reality & our consciousness comes back again & again in material body in different life forms in this simulated reality which is created by GOD so that conscious beings can live & experience this reality for their desire for different things. But we have to remember that we are eternal beings only our material body is temporary our consciousness is immortal, it will give us inner peace & happiness this is reality. This is what i think & believe & i am not compelling anyone to believe in what i think.

[@christianbaughn199]

Good for you and I enjoyed reading your opinions

[@sleepy314]

ब्रह्मा

[@garychartrand7378]

Orr beliefs ( whatever that's worth) are practically twins. 👍

[@cps_Zen_Run]

I have not been alive for almost all the the universe’s 13.8 B years. Soon, I will return to that state. That’s how I will spend eternity. May you stay healthy and safe. p.s. It’s a brief ride. I encourage everyone to enjoy the hell out of it. LOL.

[@johntexas8417]

Prove that.

[@garychartrand7378]

You are an immortal soul. You have always been and you will always BE. Good advise to enjoy the ride but when this ride is over you can enjoy the next ride and the one after that - if you do wish.

[@thelot9880]

Lol this smug 🤡

[@Saif_VAGABOND_Talpur]

“If a person doesn’t think there is a God to be accountable to, then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges?” - Jeffrey Dahmer

[@ehsantj1935]

I disagree with many things that conservative/traditional intellectual like Dr. Nasr believe, but I do like them because they are the loud and stubborn indicators of the fact that all we know is somhow based on a body of formerly useful traditional knowledge. I never fell for the idea of exceptionality of modern man.

[@williamesselman3102]

We aren't modern

[@tashriquekarriem8865]

If I make it to paradise I can finally run that sub 1hr30min marathon without sustaining injuries.

[@saintcosme9307]

A simple "I don't know" is sufficient.

[@cindychristman8708]

Maybe it's one long orgasm. This guy's explanation is just word salad.

[@micheal74rich]

@@cindychristman8708 Do you believe in hell ? I mean does it exists in the hereafter. Will people go into hell ?

[@cindychristman8708]

@@micheal74rich No, I don't believe in Heaven or Hell or in any religion, gods, or holy books. I don't believe there is an afterlife either...and I won't believe until these things can be demonstrated to be true. All religion has to do is demonstrate that these things exist in reality. I am a former Christian and it took me a very long time to get over the fear of Hell thanks to indoctrination at any early age. FYI--Hell, in the Bible, was not eternal torment, it was death.

[@chrisc1257]

Oh he knows, but he dare not speak it.

[@cps_Zen_Run]

That’s the dilemma for the religious community. Do you believe because you want heaven, or to avoid hell? Personally, I have need for either mystical place.

[@cvsree]

Eternal life not a promise, it's a curse. We have to go through the hell of this body ,or the next, until we give it up for serving all living things.

[@garychartrand7378]

WOW. Have you got it wrong

[@scout2469]

It is my belief/wish that in the after life we will be able to travel freely through time. To observe all aspects of the past [and perhaps the future] would fully alleviate boredom.

[@clapdrix72]

I hope you're right

[@radiometer]

I think we have to be very careful when talking about eternal life to define it properly. Even if eternal life is true that doesn't necessarily mean we will get an extension on the life we have already lived after we die. Eternal life could just be a repetition of the old life we once had. History could just keep repeating itself but with nothing new being added to the mix. There is the possibility however that each repetition could be slightly different. We can only talk about possibilities because we don't really know the truth. If we knew the truth then we wouldn't have to keep guessing all the time. The truth is real. It is not something that is just dreamed up in the human mind.

[@TeaParty1776]

Possibilities of concrete reality or your imagination?

[@radiometer]

@@TeaParty1776our imagination is just part of reality. People telling lies is also part of reality. Neither the truth nor reality is constructed from the human imagination but we can use our imagination to help us look for the truth and to invent things.

[@TeaParty1776]

@@radiometer Agreed, imagination is an aid to mans focused, reasoning mind. Imagination takes the minds knowledge of reality and rearranges it. Reason puts knowledge into an empty imagination. There is nothing innate to the imagination. Knowledge starts w/perceptions of concretes. Romantic Manifesto-Ayn Rand Art Of Fiction-Ayn Rand

[@dubsar]

When people are no longer able to retire and have to work until death... that's the closest to eternal life most people will get.

[@Zahraa1117]

Beautiful

[@newdawnrising8110]

Naser gave this man the truth but he is unable to receive it. Naser is not a religious nut, he understands bc he has seen. So get over the question is there a higher intelligence behind the creation. The question is why does God create? Why does he condescend to make the universe and His children?

[@ScientificReview]

A professor of Izlamic meta-physics

[@ramaraksha01]

This guy never asks the hard questions 1. God has all these people just sitting about doing nothing? God is running a Giant Retirement Home? And if you beg & grovel to the right God - like polishing the right shoes down here and getting ahead - he will be pleased and GIVE you the good life? Unlike down here where the good life has to be EARNED? 2. What about our loved ones down on earth? Without the breadwinner, are his family starving/suffering/homeless/jobless/sick? But he doesn't care anymore? Enjoying heaven while his family starves? SUCH QUESTIONS ARE NEVER ASKED! THE ONLY QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED ARE THOSE THAT THEY ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER! LIKE ASKING MADOFF HOW MUCH MONEY CAN INVESTORS EXPECT TO MAKE NEVER ASK HOW EXACLTY IS THIS POSSIBLE? LET'S KEEP THE PONZI-SCHEME GOING! AND THESE ARE RESPECTED "JOURNALISTS"!

[@ik1408]

Religions need followers. That is why religions are so vague about their descriptions of the allegedly wonderful afterlife. They lure people to join religions by promising eternal joy in the afterlife. But if the religions would offer specific descriptions of that 'joy,' it would not be what some people want. Therefore, being more specific would mean to lose followers.

[@Dion_Mustard]

forget religion. religion is man made. but consciousness is fact.

[@williamesselman3102]

@@Dion_Mustard every noise that comes from your mouth is made up by man.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@williamesselman3102 rubbish.

[@williamesselman3102]

Right. Everything is how you say it is. Because......feelings.

[@bozo5632]

I'm always impressed when anyone has answers about how many angels can dance on a pinhead.

[@TeaParty1776]

In Heaven, angels dance with pinheads.

[@thomasridley8675]

I am amazed they try too.

[@bozo5632]

@You are correct But Amazed and impressed.

[@edwardrussell7168]

He needs to read the book What is Islam? By G A Parwez to know about the Quranic interpretation. Paradise is metaphorical for the hereafter... it is the state of development of the human self which matters. There is no gender in the hereafter ... whatever self's state in which leave this life.. the next life starts from there.

[@tajzikria5307]

Brilliant intellectual

[@adeelahmad-qk7rv]

Paradise is totally material world a new universes with better fit for life We just can do it our self if we become third or fourth generation civilization My personality is pattern in a material If I have more control on energy I can life becomes endless

[@Dion_Mustard]

FORGET Religion...once you bring science and religion together you only create conflict..IF eternal life is a possibility then it is linked to Consciousness. IF brain does NOT produce consciousness, then eternal life is highly possible. I prefer to think of 'life after death' as merely an altered state of consciousness, independent of brain.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@OwO agreed.

[@garychartrand7378]

So close. Check out on KZbin Thomas Campbell. ANYTHING and religion will create conflict. It is the nature of religion. Spirituality though is a horse of a different color.

[@Bill..N]

Mr Hosseins answers were unexpected..No 72 virgins..? The sensual LOWER paradise definitely sounds better then the upper perfect one..Are there constant gardeners keeping all those REAL paradise plants watered for an infinity? A very interesting interview..Peace.

[@houmm08]

He said his shtick with a straight face, now that's a miracle

[@phuzbrain]

Heaven and hell are within us, and all the gods are within us. This is the great realization of the Upanishads of India in the ninth Century B.C. All the gods, all the heavens, all the world, are within us.

[@TeaParty1776]

Youre trying to get high without having to pay.

[@phuzbrain]

@@TeaParty1776 Keep Thumping your Bible and pray.

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

@@phuzbrain Have you watched a movie called Thor: Ragnarok, on this movie, one 'god' tries to over power herself against another 'god' and tries to subdue another 'god'. If the reality like that, then there would be confusion in heavens and Earth, each 'god' would try to fight against another 'god', just like it in the Hindu mythology, so in short Christians theology is like the Hindu mythology where one 'god' fights with another 'god'. Quran 21:22 Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.

[@garychartrand7378]

@@rizwanrafeek3811 humans make me laugh. They think that God solves problems the way they do usually with violence

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

@@garychartrand7378 You can laugh all you want to, you cannot refute my lines. You are living in a self made bubble.

[@stevecoley8365]

We are placed here for a brief moment to accumulate light and warmth (love) so that we can become as bright of a star as we can be...shining in heaven (joy, beauty and harmony). Love (god) knows every star by name. We accumulate light and warmth (love) by appreciating this paradise planet lifeboat and the miraculous works of fine art called "life" that inhabit it. If we extinguish our light and warmth (love) with ignorance (greed)...we become the darkness and emptiness that surrounds the stars. Both here on this physical plane called earth...like it is on the metaphysical pane we call heaven. Currently, the evangelical counting corpses have convinced themselves that Jesus (love) has "saved" them from greed and it's ignorance (hate). How convenient. But they are sadly mistaken. The evangelical vampires (greed) are like the darkness and emptiness that surrounds the stars. And that is what they will become after they drop the clothing of this physical pane. Love (god) knows every star by name. But Love doesn't know the darkness and emptiness that surrounds the stars.

[@dailyquran2355]

No one could be imagine the paradise.

[@ramaraksha01]

Just a cheap fantasy that religions keep feeding There is no Sugar Daddy in the sky - no being ready to keep you in nice comfort while you sit about shamelessly sponging off him - like any prostitute/gigolo/leech does down here sponging off their rich Sugar Daddies Such ideas appeal to the weak, the lazy & the shameless Easy living the easy way - all they have to do is beg & grovel to this deity and he will be pleased and GIVE them the easy good life What fools!

[@garychartrand7378]

@@ramaraksha01 have you ever got a surprise coming one day when you leave this place. If it's possible come visit me on that day.

[@garychartrand7378]

@@ramaraksha01 PS. Life is the easiest thing I know of troubles and all.

[@ramaraksha01]

@@garychartrand7378 Many find life troubling - try living in the world's hotspots - like Venezuela where people left their countries because there were no jobs Even here in the US so many people are suffering, lost jobs, lost income, trying to make ends But you seem to be one of the lucky ones - so why not choose to stay? Reincarnation! Then you can help others with your good fortune! God certainly does not need another lazy shameless moocher in Heaven God needs you down here But somehow I don't see you wanting to stay- amazing how religion is able to make you lie so easily without thinking Morals, values do not matter it seems

[@garychartrand7378]

@@ramaraksha01 I do help others with my 'good fortune's already for years now and I am looking for a way to widen the net. Your last paragraph was a little confusing to me but the term 'religious' stuck out. I keep having to straighten out people that I do not like ANY religion - I am a Spiritualist. BIG difference.

[@mitseraffej5812]

After 60 plus years my mortal and very finite life is rather boring, Just can’t imagine how I’m going to entertain myself for all eternity. Even an endless succession of gorgeous virgins would eventually lose its novelty.

[@JoeZorzin]

Maybe after a few thousand years.

[@garychartrand7378]

It's like peace and joy that words cannot express. One thing I'm sure of is that God is not bored after all eternity and so I sure that His offspring are also not bored. In this physical reality I heard a wise saying that goes' bored people are boring people'. Maybe get some new hobbies or interests.

[@JoeZorzin]

@@garychartrand7378 Marx said religion is the opiate of the masses. You don't know that there is a God and a paradise. You just hope there is- and that's fair- everyone has a right to hope. But hope is not knowledge.

[@garychartrand7378]

@@JoeZorzin I don't care what you or Marx say. I KNOW from personal experience that God is more real than you or Marx. If God is real( and trust me He is) then so is Heaven. I have no need of hope because I KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that God exists ( and your soul also).

[@williamesselman3102]

@@JoeZorzin Karl Marx is directly responsible for the death of countless Millions. People who follow Karl Marx are blooming morons.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Central authority is priveleged to an understanding of eternal life.

[@garychartrand7378]

What central authority?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

@@garychartrand7378 UN; two state solution has given the political central government blessing of Abraham to Ishmael and Islam.

[@garychartrand7378]

@@jamesruscheinski8602 whatever floats your boat

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

@@garychartrand7378 two state solution not my idea, have been opposed; and political central government not support

[@garychartrand7378]

@@jamesruscheinski8602 try being your own authority.

[@musicsubicandcebu1774]

You will own nothing, and be happy.

[@catherinemoore9534]

I'm sorry to contradict the statement that sexual union trumps hunger. It is a well known fact that prisoners in Nazi' s concentration camps were much more obsessed with food than sex. No question. After all, in order to appreciate the best part of sexual union you need to be healthy in the first place. In order of vital importance in life: 1) drinking 2) eating 3) company 4) Sex. So the learned Islamic philosopher is only the product of our modern times... a patriarchal self serving society.

[@garychartrand7378]

Imagine how perturbed muslims would be to find out that Allah is either a female or an it.

[@williamesselman3102]

@@garychartrand7378 as perturbed as Christians when you tell them that Christ's name is not Jesus.

[@thelot9880]

@@garychartrand7378 lol muslims know God has no gender

[@thelot9880]

He said the experience itself, not what is more vital. You little fanny pad

[@catherinemoore9534]

@@thelot9880 fanny pad? You sexist? And you want to be taken seriously? Get lost.

[@bozo5632]

God is infinite and cares about eating pork.

[@houmm08]

God is infinite and also cares about reshaping genitalia. Apparently.

[@thelot9880]

Imagine a twerp like you trying to understand God

[@angelmanuelvilar]

Fasting is not difficult...I fast most days...nothing special

[@garychartrand7378]

All that fasting does is to leave me hungry.

[@thelot9880]

Do it without drinking water

[@WoodstockG54]

So, what is beyond paradise?

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Just imagine those Christians who are less fortune in this World, then they die and go to next World hereafter and they find themselves empty there as well, you are empty in this World and you are empty in the hereafter. Your concept of salvation is very much like of those Buddhist, where you will not feel happy or sorrow, yet you believe you will have a body in the hereafter, where one will be subjected to hell or heaven to feel the pain or otherwise. You see, the God of the Quran is generous, who have made big mansion for those who enter into the paradise and God willingly we will have our mates and it is a mercy of the God.

[@garychartrand7378]

You and your brainwashed beliefs are funny. Do YOU really think that sex is needed in the hereafter. It is only needed in physicality for reproduction.

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

@@garychartrand7378 Instead of saying my believes are funny, refute them with your book. Your man-made NT says, Jesus going to prepare big house for disciples, if you don't have a physical body, why would you need a big house in the heaven? John 14:2

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

@@garychartrand7378 If one is going to hell, without a physical body ?

[@fr3d42]

He has absolutely no evidence for his claims. He's only speculating about what he thinks exist. Why would I take all this seriously?

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

You see, you will have a physical body as you Christians believe, secondly according to your believe those who will enter hell, will suffocate and feel the pain, so it is obvious you will have a physical body.

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Just imagine those Christians who are less fortune in this World, then they die and go to next World hereafter and they find themselves empty there as well, you are empty in this World and you are empty in the hereafter. Your concept of salvation is very much like of those Buddhist, where you will not feel happy or sorrow, yet you believe you will have a body in the hereafter, where one will be subjected to hell or heaven to feel the pain or otherwise. You see, the God of the Quran is generous, who have made big mansion for those who enter into the paradise and God willingly we will have our mates and it is a mercy of the God.

[@Ascendlocal]

"Closer to Wish Thinking", "Further From the Truth"? - Robert, I am perplexed by your change of direction. Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, The Four Horsemen already exhausted this topic and debate.

[@robertdiehl1281]

Interesting. Our religious/cultural biases vs your religious/cultural biases and what you get wrong about ours.

[@stephenlawrence4821]

"The only thing worse than dying is living forever" Victor Meldrew

[@Shahidtalkstv]

Why did he says that because with life comes suffering. But the concept of paradise is that there is absolutely no suffering. Hence everlasting life just means everlasting pleasure, tranquility, peace and happiness. It's a transcendental state that humans cannot fully imagine

[@michaelshortland8863]

Nice theory, but no evidence for any of this.

[@GreenDistantStar]

"It can't be described." Yep, because it doesn't exist.

[@sinistergeek]

This true You can't described because you may already have seen it. !!!

[@TenzinLundrup]

When one experiences something absolutely beyond words, then you know it is real.

[@sinistergeek]

@@TenzinLundrup Thing is !! Once You experienced. Then it become part of you!! that you can't describe it.

[@TenzinLundrup]

@@sinistergeek You can try to describe it but you know that the reality and the experience is absolutely beyond words. And indeed many mystics have attempted to describe it.

[@eagledon7199]

At present there are over 33 books of the Quran, none have the same narrative - so which one is the correct one???

[@partydean17]

I see what he is trying but it is still such a human physical image of this. It wouldnt make sense to be comprehensible. Idk how any amount of what we are could transcend

[@christianbaughn199]

How? The fuck? Would he? Know?

[@traductionscultureen-arver2307]

Well spiritual people experienced paradise. Wether it's in Islam (jana), christianity (heaven), Hinduism (mokhsha), mystics have spent their lifetime having spiritual experiences, writing books on it, sharing and exchanging about their experiences between masters, discussing, disagreeing, arriving to common response..

[@christianbaughn199]

@traductionscultureen-arver2307 You spelt "delusional" incorrectly

[@traductionscultureen-arver2307]

@@christianbaughn199 sorry I wasted your time..and mine..

[@kumar7359]

Mr. Kuhn must stop putting questions to religious people.

[@williamesselman3102]

Does it hurt?

[@kumar7359]

@@williamesselman3102 it sucks.

[@brandursimonsen4427]

Very focused on the sensual as the ultimate and paradise. How can the ultimate and only real be spiritual. Is there spirituality ?

[@garychartrand7378]

I am not sure what you mean by "Is there spirituality?".

[@brandursimonsen4427]

@@garychartrand7378 Spirituality is abstracting from the physical and material to meanings and purposes of a higher nature. Withdrawing oneself from the immediate sensual and material to the soul for self control and governance. Spiritual people develop a soul by restraining self for noble acts in self control. People who have sensual lusts, delights, fears, laws and natural affairs as their controls are called unspiritual and soulless. Such that do not have internal locus of soul, but a locus in externals like authorities and ruling desires.

[@garychartrand7378]

@@brandursimonsen4427 you are almost babbling. No one 'develops' a soul - they are a natural part of our being. The ' humans ' that we are have given ourselves all kinds of rules and restrictions born of the Ego that is motivated mostly by Fear. This fear cause confusion and a LOT of misery and heartache. The human BEINGS that we are is because we have fretless loving immortal souls. Love will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS do the right thing. Now take a look at the world around you. Is it being run by humans or human BEINGS. Is it Fear or Love that's dominate. I am so sad for you humans. You don't even realize that you are the problem - definitely not the solution. You are missing a large part of your being. You don't know just how powerful you really are. You don't Love God. That's OK. He still Loves you (UNCONDITIONALLY). Go in peace but please stop spreading your misery and heartache. The world has too much of it already.

[@jayrodriguez84]

Follow Jesus Christ For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life

[@S3RAVA3LM]

I've learned that it does not mean to believe in the name or word, rather believing in him and what he taught; what he appointed one to do which is to meditate, to practice the single eye, casting the net to the right side, resurrecting the Christ within -- which is the second coming.

[@jayrodriguez84]

@@S3RAVA3LM That's new age deception called "Christ consciousness" which says we can all reach that level. That teaching is from the devil. We are the creatures. Jesus Christ is the creator. And the world we live in is the creation. Human beings are not God. I mean this should be obvious to everyone. We have all this so called advance technology, yet we still go number 2. Our bodies were design to tell us we are mortal. So do not believe that we can reach that level of self awareness to where we are God's. That's a transhumanist teaching which again is Satanic. Jesus Christ is Lord!

[@S3RAVA3LM]

@@jayrodriguez84 It's what Christ taught.

[@S3RAVA3LM]

@@jayrodriguez84 You go get some scripture and text it here then, and see for yourself, ok.

[@davemojarra2666]

Same bs, different version.

[@mobiustrip1400]

It's like olive oil. Extra Virgins

[@anjum2008]

1:28: “Men for women.” Where does it say in Quran?

[@zitpopper9296]

It doesn’t. This is a white was western interpretation. Here is a better thing to think of…where else in existence can a human enter a place where there are animals trees pleasurable mountains waters and desires taken care of…here on earth… meaning that the paradise of Islam is the reincarnation of souls back on the earth. This is the divine will of Satan and not god because Satan does not want souls to leave the earth and return to god whose real heaven has no words in which to describe it

[@BrijbihariMaurya]

I am having attacks of Apeirophobia. Help me.

[@garychartrand7378]

Thank you for the new word in my vocabulary. I never heard it before so I assume that your problem is rare. I believe that I can be of service to you but I could use more information. What form specifically does it take? Do you believe in God or an immortal soul? I hope you reply.

[@sourenatube5381]

@@garychartrand7378 apeirophobia is the fear of the eternal or everlasting life, even I've had it, people don't realize what forever is like, they think like: ok its cool. But once you try to conceive the eternal life, you will get crazy and want to never exist ever again, life without end is pointless, everything eventually has to come to an end, death is the end of our individuality, there is no me after Death, and what you call as soul or conciousness will leave the body and turn into heat, and all your memories, thoughts, fears, abilities, will disappear after death

[@51elephantchang]

My worst nightmare..

[@B.Pilgrim]

Eternal life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get.

[@flux9433]

The paradise for life is the reproduction system life itself has meaning and its meaning is coded in us to reproduce to create more intelligent life here so we can have more possibilities with better outcomes!

[@hosseindamavandi5574]

I don't understand the necessity of conversation with this hypocrite fundimental ,I am Iranian and I now these type of religious people and their intellectual postures....

[@rebelliocross519]

Of cours islam thinks its misunderstood... for centuries..... again... sigh.

[@abrahamgonzalez2061]

The eternal Life is Jesus ☝🏻☄

[@sleepy314]

Have you tried Krishna? If not, then touting jesus is like saying Real Madrid is the only fotbol team!

[@bajajones5093]

to attempt to answer this question is silly.

[@Dion_Mustard]

true, but it needs to be discussed. as humans we crave eternal life. well most of us do.

[@Yameen200]

@@Dion_Mustard I dont think ppl crave eternal life. Its more of a shock that we may fade away, the fact that we feel at the end of our life that this world wasnt as fulfilling as we expected so we feel it cant end like this. From what ive seen people look foward to an afterlife more for justice and fixing the evils in this world.

[@cps_Zen_Run]

Perhaps it’s more related to people wanting to avoid hell, rather than enter heaven. I am skeptical that people believe in either. I do think they believe in believing.

[@Zensmonks]

If he goes to Islamic countries and present his point of view about ' enteral life ' , he will accuse of a blasphemy might get killed or jailed .

[@emilcioran8873]

This was hilarious

[@dmitriik3145]

No

[@JDF3889]

Eternal life is a lie, only believed by those who lack the courage to accept this life is all that we have.

[@Dion_Mustard]

many people would disagree with that including those who have died and returned to tell the tale. there is certainly good evidence out there that consciousness continues after the body dies. it's not all wishful thinking. there are many great scientists who believe in continuation of consciousness. you need to open your mind and read more books. not just the materialist rubbish.

[@Dion_Mustard]

ps i've given you a thumbs down for that comment.

[@brandursimonsen4427]

Your life has an eternal impact by your actions. Your gene can replicate to an infinite number. Eternal life is in what you do with your life.

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Christian's heaven is like those of Buddhist's, where you will not feel happy or sorrow. Those who are poor and empty in this World and to go to next life and find themselves empty there as well. Islamic religion make far more sense.

[@dust001]

The Islamic heaven for me is equally problematic and childish in concept, it's basically a huge garden full of palm trees and rivers of milk, honey and non-alcoholic alcohol, you get to stay in golden villas on sofas wearing silk having sex with 72 sex robots for eternity, does that make sense to you?

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

@@dust001 It makes perfect sense Islamic heaven. Just imagine those Christians who are less fortune in this World, then they die and go to next World hereafter and they find themselves empty there as well, you are empty in this World and you are empty in the hereafter. Your concept of salvation is very much like of those Buddhist, where you will not feel happy or sorrow, yet you believe you will have a body in the hereafter, where one will be subjected to hell or heaven to feel the pain or otherwise. You see, the God of the Quran is generous, who have made big mansion for those who enter into the paradise and God willingly we will have our mates and it is a mercy of the God.

[@garychartrand7378]

@@rizwanrafeek3811 Bullrushes.

[@ujjwalbhattarai8670]

Why don't you ask others poor people??🤔 Ego right?

[@beingnonbeingincludesexistence]

Talk please next time Whit a experienced buddhist or Alan Wallace, sadghuru please!!!!

[@thomasridley8675]

I know what is on the other side. Said every religion ever. I know the true god. Said every religion ever. Our morality was given to us by our god. Said every religion ever. I don't like to be questioned. Said every god ever.

[@williamesselman3102]

You know you are being far less than honest.

[@thomasridley8675]

@@williamesselman3102 And you don't even understand the history of religion that created your religious theology. But i do.

[@williamesselman3102]

@@thomasridley8675 explain it well. I will read every bit.

[@thomasridley8675]

@@williamesselman3102 Do i look like a teacher ? Explore it on your own. You do know how to do research ? Check out AronRa. He does some of the best pieces on theology and science.

[@williamesselman3102]

ha ha

[@mediocrates3416]

Any talk of afterlife is manipulation. How do you feel right now about what you're gonna do next? Don't lie.

[@dailyquran2355]

Whenever u loop upon a star .u see it's past .how one can see past with being in present

[@ramaraksha01]

Cheap & easy promises - that is why it all happens only after death when they know nothing can be verified Same with "he is coming any day now" and then any time any disaster happens they point to it and say "see that's a sign he is coming" and amazingly all these signs are about mass murder and killing - lots of people dying horribly and that's how we know he is coming When there is peace & prosperity I guess he is not coming or Satan is coming! Amazing that this works against intelligent, educated people but it does!

[@mediocrates3416]

@@ramaraksha01 Yes; it must be that people aren't that smart, most of the time.

[@ramaraksha01]

@@mediocrates3416 It shouldn't be though not in the 21st century - we deserve better than these primitive coward religions sowing fear and hatred Run away our nice God will keep you in nice comfort for eternity - amazingly the same as any prostitute/gigolo/leech who live the good life sponging off their Sugar Daddies down here But if you don't believe us, here come the threats & oh yes God loves you! Amazing just amazing how callous and cheap, religion is able to turn good people into

[@mediocrates3416]

@@ramaraksha01 If you consider how the brain evolved, it actually makes a lot of sense: the brain has been a comfort finder from its beginning. It is still a comfort finder but, it's becoming a coherence detector and; truth is at first uncomfortable. We can jump on some elietist bandwagon but; with little variation, we are comfort finders 80% if the time.

[@matthewteal7134]

I love that little dig he had at the beginning about Western theology lol as if any human knows for sure who is correct 😂😂😂 if we knew the truth we wouldn't have all these religions> wars ect 😅😅😂😂

[@saliksayyar9793]

He is confused. He is importing non Islamic ideas into the narrative. Humans maintain their identity here and hereafter. Talk to a mainstream Islamic scholar. Read Muhammad Iqbal about the essential preservation of the self.

[@jeremyduguay3640]

What a waste of my precious time.

[@thelot9880]

Yet you waste more with commenting, you are an absolute clown🤡

[@OldEnoughToBeYourFather]

this guy is just philosophizing and his "viewpoint" is as valid or non valid as any other viewpoint. Seems like his knowledge base is the koran, which has been proven to be plagiarised from the hebrew around 600 ad. he also mixes elements of christian thought. does he actually believe what he is saying?

[@TupacMakaveli1996]

What are the plagiarism proofs? I would be thankful if you can link me some.

[@tajzikria5307]

There is zero plagiarism fact!

[@ophirdog]

Eternal life is just wishful thinking.

[@NotesofKhan]

Why?

[@ophirdog]

@@NotesofKhan Because it is bullshit.

[@NotesofKhan]

@@ophirdog Why You are a living being so do you think that the material universe which is without any consciousness has the ability to create your consciousness? Or were you your own creator? because someone did create you and you exist so Either You create yourself Or You were created from nothing? or God created you?

[@ophirdog]

@@NotesofKhan I don't know how life started, neither does anyone else. But when you think about it, our galaxy is so mind bogglingly big and it's only one of 200 billion galaxies in the observable universe. Do you really think Earth is the only planet with life? I see no physical or logical evidence that the God's that men worship even exist. The gospels were not even written by eye witness accounts but rather well after the events. I think it was the apostle Paul that came up with the idea of eternal life in paradise as a way to get more people into his congregation. Religion claims to have all the answers but no evidence. Whereas science gains so much knowledge not by invoking the supernatural but understanding how nature works.

[@NotesofKhan]

@@ophirdog Well,my question was not how life started, It was "who created you (a living mind/your consciousness)?" There are 200 billion galaxies and the distance between each of them is also mindboggling then how can we say that it has no Creator?Its like a thing exists without a cause Now they say Big Bang did occur while earlier scientists though the universe was eternal so the Universe did not always exist and even Big bang is understood in different ways and different models try to explain a philosophical question rather a scientific one so scientists are also philosophizing and by clinging to idea of "Scientist showing the way to humanity" you are Worshipping blind Science or a philosophy which states that "All that exists is what can be seen" I know enough physics so I am not a rejector of science in any way but God is not supernatural but someone who can be found rationally and if the reality of God is accepted then there is no problem accepting supernatural events as well. Paul did not invent the concept of God, even a child knows that anything that exists has a cause and all ancient people knew God in some form why not atheistic ancient People? but SCIENCE knows it all sorry for the length of answer